/lit/ - Literature

>>4372664
that's what sucks.
How do you suggest putting a story to paper. I am ten pages into my novel and there is only one brief social interaction to speak of. The theme I have is Disillusioned in the face of beauty.

If that doesn't make sense imagine a kid on his own rowing down a river that he appreciates to be a beautiful thing, yet doesn't understand the importance of this beauty and doesn't understand how his trajectory towards comfort and social conformity (in the footsteps of his father) will serve to heighten this distilled pleasure.

It's a bit scatterbrained at the moment

>>4372632
no. I just write.

I write about experiences and situations. About skimming stones and scaring birds. About walking through fields and brushing your hands on the wheat. The knowing and harrowed look a homeless man will give you when you meet his gaze.

But when I try to write an actual story I clam up and get scared of writing a waste of time soap opera.
I hate the fact that so many books are judged solely on the relatability of their characters. Or how fucking 'quirky' and individual the protagonist's viewpoint is. It just seems masturbatory to me.

>>4372601
that's a tall order.
I write more evocatively than him, which is probably my downfall.

I get the feeling that my writing always feels like it's leading somewhere, but it never ends up that way. I get depressed that i don't have any social criticism, commentary or satire in me that will get me remembered.

>>4372596
welcome to my head most Tuesday evenings.
Not that the other evenings aren't equally suicidal, I'm just in disbelief of how on earth I manage to survive Tuesdays.

Nihilism has ruined my personality. Escape while you can.

>>4372554
which is like saying that cake is flour.

>>4372520
what I've written is exactly that: lucid and distant descriptions and narratives of meaningless events. I don't understand character development or plot devices. Think Beckett but without meaning or grandeur.

I like to write about everyday moments that are of no consequence yet still remain crystalline and perfect within themselves.

The trouble with this is that nobody cares for ornate wallpaper and it will never be commended as 'serious' or intellectual prose.

>>4372492
>mfw plebs actually think this

You call cars, computers, pharmaceuticals, surgery, space travel, metallurgy and material development 'philosophy'?

This takes entitled to a whole new level, asshole

who else has read anything bu Coupland?
what do you think of his books?

I don't often see him mentioned here and nether do I consider him the pinnacle of modern writing or the fucking 'voice of a generation' but I was definitely entertained by jpod and generation x.

I would compare him to tao lin and, at a stretch, salinger (mostly because of his vastly irritating prose, leaving the reader puzzled as to whether it is intentional or not)

>>4363305
why can't you red the title anon?
It's quite clearly visible in the photo.

>>4363270
join the gay parade! It's fun! Smiles all round

>>4363243
tfw no qtp2t '70s gf

>>4363220
i was self conscious I guess

This was a lovely little read. Just finished it after starting it yesterday. And I felt it was enjoyable and thorough yet there wasn't as much of that joycean pretension I come to expect.

>>4363050
I never understood the point of deism

>>4363032
the worst thing is though, individually, they are all decent examples of their medium [can't comment on vg or anime and I will say that the music section is total shite.. So ignoring those] yet slapping the label "greatest artistic achievements onto them just takes it full reddit mode

>>4362247
i really enjoyed Beckett.

Really genuinely.
Like I'd always known who I was but till I read Beckett I understood myself differently

>>4363012
I'm pretty sure that's final fantasy but w/e

>>4362993
:^]

>>4362970
well now you've just descended to stupidity.
Have you even read the selfish gene? River out of Eden? The greatest show on earth?

>>4362960
i guess I'd keep Rembrandt and Bach there... And maybe Ulysses if I was 15 still.
But seriously, this is the least funny joke I have seen for a while.

>>4362921
and I think it is possible to be overly intellectual about it all but then the conversation will inevitably spiral into pretension and name dropping when the meat of the argument should really lay with "is modern mainstream religion hindering the progress of humanity?".

>>4362907
how is suggesting that it would be a good idea to keep Jesus out of science journals and classrooms a bad political agenda exactly?
He writes his books more like research papers than manifestos or philosophical works anyway.

>>4360894
It is quite easy to sit on one's high horse and poke fun at the banality of new atheism for combatting a "straw man sky daddy", but lets face the facts here, the most common and influential belief system in the west is one not borne of commendable theology or philosophy and is merely the mutations of the medieval musings of ignorant men.

the new atheism may not be a strong movement when it comes to challenging complex and convoluted theodicy that is (in the scale of things) a recent and mostly inconsequential affair.

Yet The fact of the matter is that half of the American population (at least) is very badly read and holds a damaging and backward mindset which is incompatible with modern science and morality.

Dawkins has repeatedly expressed sympathy towards friendly neighborhood reverends and has never ridiculed philosophical meditation on the existence of a divine being in a private and personal manner so I think that really you are the one posing the straw man here to suggest that he has such a limited view of spirituality

Pirsig

Don't do it op