/lit/ - Literature

>>6880483
The Love Song of Alfred J. Prufrock, and if you like that The Wasteland

The Wastelnd is ice cold

>>6880447
rekt

>>6878118
please a fundamental tenant of aesthetic harmony is proper geometry

>>6820155
It's pretty dumb and usually the people who use it don't know what they mean by it. They seem to think it means don't be descriptive, and if you have to describe something do it though labored analogy.

It was meant to champion the break of the novel from journalistic (ie Dickens, or Melville, or Shelly, or even people like James) patterns of fact-relaying to more impressionistic ways of writing where the author presented experiences before the reader decontextualized.

The phrase is antiquated, it should be something like "create something witnessable, don't report what your narrator witnessed,"

>>6389130
underrated post

From Gravesend up to Oxford he pursued his evil aims, Rejoicing in his title of, 'The Terror of the Thames

>>6388298
patina

rare pepes

>>6389901
nice rare

>>6389794
Ironic doesn't mean not enjoying, it just means the enjoyment you are receiving from the text is not derived from the texts literal intent/expected experience.

Reading an old copy of Life Magazine from the 50s to get a sense of the time period would be an ironic reading.

Reading a Chick Tract to laugh at the authors ideas would be ironic reading.

Reading a work of poetry or literature in an attempt to manufacture political context from it and turn it into a political statement would be an ironic reading of the work. In fact there are probably thousands of (philistine) phds who only read works ironically.

In fact Bloom's notion of misprision and Barthes' idea of authorial death both implicitly conclude that the only way a text is ever read is through ironic misreading.

>>6387688
nice

though the ineluctable modality of the visible and the limits of the diaphane

>>6387572
black socks with sneakers, tee shirt tucked into cargo shorts

say what you will about DFW, but a least the man hadn't any talent

>>6374478
It's like the picture is saying but when it's the other way is how a literature class is, ayy.

>>6351108
hahaha Koresh was a pussy cat, really no worse than so many Mormons

>>6351087
It was also a survivalist cult, living most of the summer months under brutal forced labor and most of the winter months freezing to death.

He often tortured the children, both those of his concubines, one of whom he froze to death, and even more so the children they brought with them.

He orchestrated orgies with the children, often involving their own mothers and himself.

A mentally retarded man who came to join the cult after hearing about them during a hospitalization at the same place Roch was sent, was force into castration and generally tortured both physically and mentally by Roch, and his wives when he encouraged them to do so.

A concubine who complained of a finger ache had her finger cut off by him. Then he decided it was a good idea to pin her hand to a table with a butchers knife for several hours while he got drunk, and being a good follower she acquiesced. Then once her arm was nice and necrotic he decided to amputate the whole thing. Finally she fled into the woods.

And there is much much more, he would preform amateur, gruesome surgeries on cult members with increasing frequency when he wasn't just outright torturing hem. The guy was just brutal, and the fact that all the violence was inflicted inward towards the cult just makes it that much more disturbing, like a serial killer who thralls his victims in order to slowly torture them for years and years.

cut vs uncut
srs vs our cruel demiurge

>>6350220
you're missing out man, easily one of the most fucked up cults of the 20th c., and really well written too

>>6350028
http://murderpedia.org/male.T/t/theriault-roch.htm

scroll past the two news articles, the good stuff starts in the section ripped from everything2

>>6349280
>typical Ulysses detractor
>knowledge of work operates on sophomoric rumors, bland culture warring, third hand impressions, the belief that "high art" must resemble the neo-classical, and that if he doesn't understand something right away then he is probably too wise for it
>can't find anyone who will engage him or correct his uninformed opinion because he is under-read and unpleasant
>will go to his grave believing he saw through the great sham that was Ulysses

rubymeated

>>6348616
In Our Time has a good podcast about Gnosticism, and Gnostic beliefs

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s4rhz

>>6348694
>Chomsky

It takes a special kind of person to achieve Chompskayn plebe levels. Most people just don't have the capacity necessary the plebe on that sort scale. And even when a very tenacious plebe starts to plebeout at elevated levels there are usually checks to keep him from plebing up the whole region/discipline/nation: discreditably among the academy, withdraw of dissemination chains, some sense of self shame.

Chomsky,is probably the wiliest plebe alive, and quite possibly one the wiliest ever.