/lit/ - Literature

>>23325479
Not as good as bach (pbuh)

>>23326136
>we don't really know what Bach read now, do we?
We kind of do. Luther's Bible, Lutheran hymns, Baroque comedies, etc.

>>23326262
I mean, is that just an educated guess based on the texts he used in his music, or did he actually leave behind a library?

>>23325479
>translations

>>23325489
Normoid cope. Beethoven and Bruckner are the greatest composers who ever lived. Neither had sex and therefore more soul in their music.

>>23325469
Shvt the fvck vp swarthoid.
An Aryvn is talking... Listen and levrn..

>>23325469

The Roman Empire was the only polity in world history to conquer the entire coastline of the Mediterranean sea. That's nothing to sneeze at. Like all organizations founded in Italy (the Catholic Church, Cosa Nostra, the Italian Communist Party, Mussolini's fascists, the Red Brigade, and so forth), the Roman Empire was simply an early entry in a long line of evil organizations. The Italians have a special talent for evil, far above the Germans. Even so, the Roman Empire's achievements were as obvious as they were significant.

>>23325469
Any book on the decline of Classics in the curriculum. Very interesting to see a Spenglerite absolutely reject Roman culture when Spengler documents the debt of German Faustian culture to the foreign Roman residuum.
Anyone who rejects the Classics does not merit your attention.

>>23325433
Your Pynchon cherry got popped, I see.

>>23325482
>he thinks David Lynch movies are complicated

>>23325539
>Why would you do that when you could apparently read Pynchon and get the same thing?
But why read Pynchon when you could get the same by watching a David Lynch movie?

>>23325433
>read meme author
>get meme result
Many such case!

>>23325433
are you literally retarded?

>>23325372
Doubt it.

>>23326517
what does pseud even mean to you people? Id hate to go through life like this, always on the lookout for pseuds. Takes one to know one, I suppose. You guys should try to have positive, constructive thoughts and to quiet the critical apparatus always humming in the background of your mind. Your like a teenager absolutely terrified of appearing cringe

>>23326532
That part where he thought Solomon was the author of the ecclesiastics. The part where he said epicureans were pure hedonists. The part where he considered himself on the same rank as Schopenhauer. Stuff like that.
Just saying he probably thought he was smarter than he was
>see pic

also insane projection from u, like chill dawg im cool so be cool 2 plz

>>23325453
NTA and I like Tolstoy overall, but
>he said it in the most candid and eloquent way in literary history
When he's being unapologetically condescending that does seriously ruin the beauty of his work, like >>23325438 said.

It's kinda hard to find beauty in the words a bitter old man going "well you are al retards and now know how it is so shut the fuck up and listen", and if it's possible it's rather from pitying him rather than listening to him.

>>23326543
>he part where he considered himself on the same rank as Schopenhauer
That's a remarkably self-depreciating statement for Tolstoy, as he's obviously way above Shoppy.

>>23326560
Sure but he considered Schopenhauer a genius, thus more evidence to his lack of critical skills

>>23326663
nigga how is their society 40.000 years old and mine 100-200 what does that even mean? do you think my society just spawned out of nothing or do you think their society hasnt changed?
>>23326663
>it's already having troubles with the most basic of shit like having kids
yeah well these niggas have troubles with the most basic of shit like basic hygiene, reading a book or multiplying one-digit integers

>>23326675
> like a human is supposed to
??????? when exactly was that defined lol

you retards got your mind buckbroken the first time you knew modernity is not perfect and it shows. you should gom back to pol,where you can pretend every thing new is bad and everything old is good

verification not required so you know im right

>>23326715
they have lived according to more or less the same lifestyle since basically they got there from whatever dispersion hub eurasians emerged from approx 40-50k years ago, while industrial and post industrial society is an absolute microscopic blip in the grand scheme of homo sapiens existence
>yeah well these niggas have troubles with the most basic of shit like basic hygiene, reading a book or multiplying one-digit integers
they don't, because they have clearly coped with it for the longest time, while you are apparently ready to die on the hill of industrial society keeping existing and expanding, good luck with that

>>23325351

>>23326715
>yeah well these niggas have troubles with the most basic of shit like basic hygiene, reading a book or multiplying one-digit integers
This is such insane levels of copium, you might as well be saying "well they don't have xboxs, whose REALLY living?"
If you asked these guys what trannies or suicide was, you think they'd even believe you if you said that shit existed?

>>23326612
This but unironically

>>23325951
I read it and never recovered, I still think about my death every day, even 15 years later.

>>23325923
>t. reactionary who hasn't read the book
Redditor

>>23325951
It's a steaming pile of shit.

>>23325341
nietzsche, wagner and schopenhauer

>>23325341
Straight to hell.

>>23325390
>retarded person thinks incel means lonely
Fucking retards on this website man please fuck off back to discord/twitter you normalfaggot

>>23325198

>>23325198
girl I know who is getting an English degree and wants to write or be an editor is really into poetry books, she also was reading some Toni Morrison.

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>>23325920

>>23325096
Stein has some good stuff. Woolf is not bad.

>>23325096
Cristina Campo

>>23325108
>>23325127
Chesterton is female in the sense that fat is estrogenic and turns you into a bitch.

>>23325096
Simone Weil

Joan Didion, Susan Sontag, Marilynne Robinson. The three Amigos

it's unlikely that Ibsen would have mentioned Gilbert. They moved in different literary circles and focused on different styles of drama—realistic and social critique for Ibsen, and comedic and satirical operas for Gilbert

>>23325266
AHEM, based.

>>23325286
He was aware of Gilbert and Sullivan. It was huge cultural phenomenon. This would like trying to argue that Scorsese isn’t away of Marvel Movies.

>>23324958
>slopmaxxing
People will try to posthumously rehabilitate JK Rowlings as a great writer (unless trannies win).

>>23325508
Kys.
https://youtu.be/rP2qJXT3olM?si=V5OYKamHn9Gs37DV

>>23324925
Yes, it is. Wanna fight about it? and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and buttress

>>23324925
I thought you were describing euro writing. Realism and autofiction read like that.

>>23326049
>the other Apostles accept him?
this is a fact known only from Acts which was written by a Pauline.

From Galatians, Paul's own authentic words, he says, after the people of Galatia became suspicious of him and abandoned his teachings for "another gospel", Paul says "Even if an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!"

Who do you think came to the Galatians to refute Paul and why were they so quick to distrust him?

>>23326049
>>23326049
>Do you guys have a problem with John's gospel, too?
And John is known to be the most inauthentic non-aprocryphal gospel, with direct textual evidence of interpolation and redaction by scribes

>>23325397
>Islam literally explicitly demands the armed conquest and subjugation of the entire world into an earthly autocracy
It literally explicitly doesn't, unless, again, you are a wahhaboid and even then only a tiny splinter group of wahhaboids

>>23326078
>God in Sunni islam is beyond creation
He's an emo twink

>>23324985
Did he ever meet an American?

>>23324863
He had a large head and small body so most of his caloric intake went into fueling his brain instead of his extremities.

Kant was an autistic manlet s-yboy coffee addict. It's amazing that someone as naturally cringe as him managed to get at least a few good points in his philosophy and set the stage for better philosophers later. Unironically an inspiration to untermensch everywhere.

>>23324935
Seethe from people retarded enough to fall for german idealism is always the best.

>>23325880
>Nietzsche is for artists
Wow look, someone who understood Nietzsche. A rarity

>>23325846
Idk about that. In many cases, I think that's true. But I also think people who believe in the value of "truth," dismiss or forget that for some people, violence is their argument.
Take Stalin. Stalin didn't give a fuck about communist ideology; he understood how it worked, and how the Party worked, and how to climb the ladder and secure his position. Once he secured the position, he consolidated it, then he enforced it through sheer brutality and violence against anyone who opposed him, or who he wanted to make an example out of; or just whoever he felt like fucking with, because he was absolute ruler.
So his argument from day one, was violence. There was no argument in the sense that you allude to. The argument was, "I really think I should be in charge of everything and that anyone who disagrees should die or be too terrified to ever even speak about it."
And he stated his case, directly, through the whip.
Guys like you and I, like to pretend that deep down, somehow, our rationalism or our articulation confers some objective benefit, or objective validity, but the guy who believes he can just beat us into submission, believes in the objectivity of his "argument" just as strongly.

Everyone in this thread is a retard expect for me.

>>23325902
It depends on your goal. If you want to change someone's mind with facts, feelings, and ethics, or if you want to appear correct, reasonable, or intellectual, then there's no worse thing you can do than resorting to violence.
But if you don't care about what people think, don't want to change anyone's opinion, and don't care too much about what's right or wrong - morally or factually - then sure, violence solves everything sooner or later.

>>23325240
Scent flows deeper than words.

>>23325247
I have nothing to brag about, I have never taken one of the tests. At any given time there are about a handful of IQ threads on here, so you must be addressing the people who brag anonymously about their IQ.

>>23324854

>>23324854
Kierkegaard is part Pietist theologian (but very individualistic). I don't think you really need anything beforehand except an acquaintance with the bible. Not that that's a small thing.

Hubbard

>>23325823
This. t's his birthday today, by the way.

>>23324954
Bro you have got to advocate for The One harder. This is just embarrassing and makes us look like deusional retards read your Lacan and write your proofs.

>>23324837
>inb4 but he's a scientist and not a philosopher
Science is natural philosophy. Therefore, logically every scientist is a philosopher.

>>23325195
It’s funny because your take is the low IQ take. The triune God and Christian theologians overcame every philosophical problem that’s ever been posed, including modern ones. It’s the only philosophy which doesn’t contain necessary logical contradictions, baseless belief systems, or just a general failure to account for how any knowledge about anything is known. It’s the ultimate midwit filter because midwits will read modern philosophers and their strawmen or worse, new atheist media personalities while the highwits will go to the source. “What did Augustine say about the triune nature of God and why is that important for epistemology?” And once you do, you realize that the claims of the gospels are literally true, that the Church solved philosophy, and that there’s never been a more complete or more justified philosophical system ever on this planet.

So I just count you as one of the midwits who has never read Augustine, never read the Church Fathers, never read the gospels, never read the councils, and you never will. You’ll resort to strawmen and ad hominem forever and trap yourself in the midwit trap because that’s what you are, not because it’s in your nature but because it’s what you choose, over and over again even when the truth is right under your nose.

>>23324799
Average Kant thread, no offense

>>23324858
but that defies the point, this coming from a metaphysical perspective, as kant states, we cant strive to really know to what is actually near, but aim for the thing which is so near but, increasily, is good for us

>>23325811
I like this, although there are plenty of non-nuclear WMDs.

>>23324798
>Huge plague kills a bunch of people
>Vampires living in populated city must leave as food source dwindles
>Go to "the North" (Canada/Alaska/Whatever) to feed on people living in small isolated towns
>Get to town
>There's werewolves there, and they have an innate sense for vampires
>Werewolves protect the town from vampires
>Both must fight for their own survival

>>23324798
based on a true story
kind of like rosemary's baby in that that you don't know if the protagonist is a schizo or if it's real till the end

A magical realist bildungsroman about a middle schooler on his summer break before entering 8th grade:
>protagonist's best friend is a compulsive liar wracked with insecurity and half-lost in his own reality
>whenever something bad happens to him, he tries to pull MC farther from reality in their games that he treats as being progressively more real
>protagonist is visited by himself from the future
>he knows too much about MC to be discredited but there is zero trace of MC's personality in this other person
>every character's parents are divorced and all the kids only refer to one of their parents as mom or dad, using the stepparent's first name
>MC's stepdad acts like a goofy redneck, but he's a skilled engineer, and MC is the only one that never sees that side of him
>stepdad implies at one point that nothing exists after you cross north into Kentucky
>MC and his friend's favorite place to play is a stretch of suburbs that are still being built but look abandoned
>no one ever sees construction crews and the houses are only wooden frames on dirt lawns with nothing but dirt and asphalt in all directions
>MC doesn't want to move forward into adulthood but can't decide on what fantasy or delusion to choose instead because they all seem like different forms of reality

>>23324798
The eldest son and heir dies in a helicopter crash, and it's now up to the spare child to learn what it means to be a leader.