/lit/ - Literature

Hey /lit/, I just realized I have spent far too much time on English and American literature. If you guys could throw some recommendations my way from other countries/cultures, that'd be kick-ass. I really liked Siddhartha and Steppenwolf by Hesse; I just finished reading The Norse Myths and enjoy French philosophy, if that's any help.

pic related, it's me and my bros sitting on a log.

:( this thread makes me sad.

>>2465445
>>2465445
Awesome thanks, I just added that to the list!

>>2465438
>>2465438
Hence, viking buttsex

>>2465418
>>2465418
That's on my list. I'm starting with a book about Norse mythology and tales for background knowledge first.

>>2465413
>>2465413
lul wat

[spoiler]>>2327823
Well I did already buy it and she said she loves it, I just didn't want her to think I put little to no effort into it since it's a hit, you know?</spoiler>

[spoiler]Also..hey op, my girlfriend's into these kind of books and she loves dragons and fantasy. What would be the best gift to give her?
I already bought her the game of thrones, but I'm scared it'll be shit since it's so popular.

Also, English isn't our mother tongue so I'd be great if I could order a hardcover book online in English, especially if it isn't available in our area.

Most books written in English here are either shitty pocket editions or generic crap for the Hallmark soccer mom.</spoiler>

[spoiler]>>2327783
I think he was on your side, you putz.</spoiler>

The Rape of Lucrece --William Shakespeare*

My mistake, sorry.

Who has read this?
Can I get thoughts and ideas on Tarquinius' monologue:

“‘What win I if I gain the thing I seek?
A dream, a breath, a froth of fleeting joy.
Who buys a minute’s mirth to wail a week,
Or sells eternity to get a toy?
For one sweet grape who will the vine destroy?
Or what fond beggar, but to touch the crown,
Would with the sceptre straight be stricken down?”

I'm writing an essay, and I'd appreciate a good discussion. I don't intend on stealing other people's ideas.

Well the fabulous massacre of subaltern dodos is getting boring. Never mind the Indonesians, they talk back.

>>2047792
Dame Quickly is a productive worker remember, and she's in the service industry?

Transport workers are productive workers remember, because they contribute to the production of the commodity as capable of being circulated.

Even the shop assistant who deboxes the commodity into individual units is a productive worker.

The productive/unproductive worker distinction isn't relevant to class status; but, rather, to strategic possibilities of resistance.

>>2047747
>considering the fact that even the most petty office worker is technically middle class by Marx's designation.

Uh, no. You'll want to revisit Marx on the nature of wage labour. Marx's category has always encompassed all those who only possess the capacity to subsist off the sale of their labour power for wages or salaries.

The rest of your comment is fine.

>>2047713
>Sure, the epistemic pomo issues don't speak to the unintellectual, or equally, the uneducated, but they speak of the culture they inhabit and thus, it speaks for them and is utterly accesible to them.

I've done some training in party work with blue and white collar workers. They can get that epistemic desychronisation of meanings and texts may be significant intellectually. But they don't reproduce this complex in their own texts.

They can read it; but they don't experience it as a crisis themselves—they simply *do not inhabit a post-modern world*. The working class do not live in a simulacra, they live in a class society dominated by grand narratives, and they're the one tied up in leather being hit.

I'm suggesting that a bourgeois hegemony declaiming post-modernism is repressing and producing as subaltern the actual working class experience of modernity.

(The Erhenreich's aren't universally supported, even within the Marxist conceptions of potential "new classes", and they're particularly US in their bent, so it suits this text.)

>Meanwhile> They finally correlated the bomb and fuck charts. 1/8th of the text in.

>>2047696
The idea of the autonomy of art is suspect, but not in the manner of an instrument of party or class action. And it certainly isn't the readership that's restricted from interfacing with works.

It is more the effortlessly privileged and technocratic narrative emerging in GR embodies the consciousness of a class. It isn't impossible to write over class barriers, Zola does a half way adequate job.

The other thing is that I haven't observed an epistemic crisis that post-modernism speaks to in the non-fictive working class archives I've read; this crisis simply doesn't appear in the documents of people who work for a living.

(The crisis that appears mirrors almost precisely the crisis of the 1890s, and the 1910s, and the 1920s, and the 1930s.)

And this is why I'm reaching out to the Erhenreich's voicing of the Professional-Managerial Class (ha, also Post-Modern Condition, ha) in relation to Gravity's Rainbow—the welfare state's funding spigot dried up for non-instrumentalised research.

>>2047688
I quite obviously forgot my nick.

>>2047678
I sat half a year of English in undergraduate fifteen years ago, and I'm reading this while resolving some problems with Bourdieu and post-structuralists. I'm using it to confirm the mapping of the separation of modernism and post-modernism, particularly in relation to epistemology.

Also, I am frustrated because there isn't enough gay sex—Red the Toilet Negro's Pomade Dingleberry Action was unfulfilling.

>>2047668
Or you can learn to abstractly and systematically appreciate that which you loathe; and, to aptly critique its short comings, overstatements and misuses.

>>2047653
>>2047657
Some of us read for work, its a higher calling than edification or education, both of which are higher than simple enjoyment. (And if you want some word play, I'm taking up Zizek's enjoyment.)

>>2047646
> gratuitous and unsubtle
So's Brecht. There's a point where baroque becomes rococo.

>>2047644
More importantly the oppressed British and American populations. The Beveridge report is an invisible constraint upon the freewill of almost Randian twerps. I have a great deal of sympathy for Wooster—there is no sympathy here.

>>2047639
You only read books you enjoy? Are you serious?

>Vomitting…the cherry from some Radcliffe girl

Wow, yet another American Bourgeois College Book.

>[What it was like before the war] "All I remember is that it was silly. Just overwhelmingly silly. Nothing happened."

All sympathy gone for these characters. Pomo is as isolated from the world as its French intellectuals were from 1968. For starters: they weren't in Czechoslovakia.

I think I prefer J.G. Ballard's clinical excess, and its perversion into Will Self over this tendentious drooling crap. And I like sputum drooling crap.