/lit/ - Literature

>>23163910
He's a giant dong with a Pharaoh's face, what's not cool about it?

I read the series so far and I enjoy it greatly, now I'm on my 4th book, God Emperor of Dune, not yet finished as I like to pace myself.

I felt the first book was amazing, and the rest were good,
Am I missing something if I stop after the 4?

>no human is qualified to be Pharoah but if he could he'd be whipped to pussy he could never have and be suicidal
Thank you Frank, very insightful

>>20437509
*blocks your path for ten thousand years*
>>20435319
>Have people just not read it?
Duh. But you also purposefully didn't mention the part that people think aged poorly (the idea that the only possible future form of government is liberal democracy and that nobody could possibly refuse it).

>>14246966
>>14243042
>>14242561
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Are Frank Herbert’s other works any good?

Steaming turd or philosophical masterwork?

>>13106836
Never read Hyperion. But I'm certain that no book could top this series.

>>13076533
One helluva ride

Despite looking nothing like how Leto is described I seriously am in awe of how perfect this cover art is.

"All faggots should be fucking hanged, Leto, you fag enabling piece of shit!"
What did Duncan mean by this?

Just finished God Emperor. It was really good.
Is it true that I should stop now? Should I not read Heretics and Chapterhouse?

>>11506600
Read until the end of God Emperor, which is the absolute pinnacle of the Dune series.

It's so good that it makes up for how shitty Children of Dune is

Fucking kino

Why did no one tell me the Dune books got even better? Children of Dune kinda sucked cock though

About to start Heretics now

Are the books after this worth reading? I just finished.

Just finished this today, probably the last Dune book I'm going to read, at least for a while anyway.

I was hoping that this would be the best book in the series, lots have people have said it was their favorite. I may come to change my mind later, but as it stands i think it's definitely not the best book in the series but it could have been, which makes it frustrating.

Thematically, it was awesome and it gave me a lot to think about. There were a lot of really interesting characters and ideas presented, and certain scenes were completely brilliant. But the problem is the execution. Endless conversations with Leto got to be very repetitive around halfway through the book. These conversations wouldn't have felt so repetitive if it felt like there was a point to them. Most characters he talks to never end up learning anything because Leto refuses to make sense in his arguments. He uses the most backwards logic I have ever seen, a thesaurus-tier vocabulary, and to top it off he constantly references thousand year old history and poems that the people he's talking to have no idea what to make of.

Also he never shuts the fuck up about his ancestral memories. Like I get it, I don't need to be reminded you know all of human history every chapter. It's interesting but we've already covered this in Children of Dune, and the concept of ancestral memories hasn't been original since it first happened to Alia. It doesn't help Leto's case that he can be extremely grating at times. Like, stop yelling at Moneo dude, he's by far the most loyal and trustworthy person around you.

I have a million other small complaints but this is already turning into a blog, and even though this looks very critical, i enjoyed the book overall. Anyone else feel disappointed by this book?

>>9731564
Eugenics is God's work, anon.

>>9676162
>In the interests of you not going insane please tell us if subsequent comments are to be more uninspiring.
I kek'd. You're right ofc. Insanity is Unbecoming.
>the theory goggles they do nothing

>Succession is tempered by the usurper realizing that the function of the sovereign contains the aspect of sacrifice. Of course, if the insane king is not sacrificed, then catastrophe is the result. Imo the most insulting part about the Romanovs' deaths were that they were executed as common citizens. I mean really, how materialist can you get? Apparently very...so because he was stripped of power and not sacrificed, we instead got *massive* catastrophe. It's funny how the myths work out in the end.
YES
the tiger is out
That's exactly it.

>So unlike the individual, whom we can define in terms of his or her relation to the social body if we are to avoid positing a liberal concept of the self, the sovereign's being cannot be reduced to the social body, because power flows downstream from the sovereign. Trying to "look" into the being of the sovereign is like the blind spot in your eye. But this doesn't mean it's a black hole! The blind spot, after all, doesn't literally suck up light.
So. Fucking. Cool. The cultural rules for the psychoanalysis of the sovereign. What if the king is mad? Who gets to psychoanalyze the sovereign? This stuff gets interesting pretty fast. I should probably ease up on the analysis and read some Shakespeare. This is next door to Lacanian stuff, but my mind just goes ridiculous places when I think about these kinds of inner-sanctum conversations among The Powers That Be about how to handle the madness of the king, the Law, the Rules and so on. Once the king becomes the king, he can't be *casually* psychoanalyzed anymore...right in the feels.

>So we can talk about the origin of the sovereign decision or the telos of the sovereign.
YES. This is where I get fucking tangled up and wind up staring out the window and drooling like an idiot.

>And this is where the tutoring of a potential sovereign comes into play. Whether the candidate is chosen from a set of skilled ones, or tutored from birth. Once in place, the sovereign's decisions are inscrutable precisely because they are *unquestionable*. To invoke Godel (let's just pretend we're talking about a formal system!), the sovereign decision cannot be analyzed axiomatically, although it does mean it is not consistent with the principle of sovereignty.
So fucking *based.* Yes. The tutoring of kings.

Basically I'm all about the memes until things turn into politics and then I get lost. Absolutist political theory makes sense to me because, perhaps, it's just the opposite or inverse of the roaming craziness of unlimited memes, translation and so on. t. brainlet. Whatever.

Your whole post is straight brilliance anon. Fucking cheers. If my own memefaggery produces rejoinders this quality it's a deal I'm happy to take. Hope to read more.

>>9676283
He's right you know.

Well, I liked the book but that was an unfulfilling climax. Should I stop here or continue with Chapterhouse?

Tags: yuri, NTR, bestiality, guro, mind-break

>>9101394
A cool guy

>You Have Evolved From Worm Worm to MAN WORM

I didn't understand how terrible this one was until I read the book and got what was going on in the cover