/lit/ - Literature

>>23342153
You are the thing in itself, anon.

was he the king of pessimists? he is certainly more famous than von hartmann, mainlander, cioran. but on a personal level, who do you feel deserves the crown?

>>22326305
>but muh suffering
kek
Almost as bad as Nietzsche.
It's little wonder that that mustached faggot was heavily influenced by the retarded incel.

I fundamentally disagree with Schopenhauer, beauty isn't the illusion, suffering is.

>"The real aim of the whole of love’s romance, although the persons concerned are unconscious of the fact, is that a particular being may come into the world; and the way and manner in which it is accomplished is a secondary consideration. However much those of lofty sentiments, and especially of those in love, may refute the gross realism of my argument, they are nevertheless in the wrong. For is not the aim of definitely determining the individualities of the next generation a much higher and nobler aim than that other, with its exuberant sensations and transcendental soap-bubbles? Among all earthly aims is there one that is either more important or greater? It alone is in keeping with that deep-rooted feeling inseparable from passionate love, with that earnestness with which it appears, and the importance which it attaches to the trifles that come within its sphere."

How can Schopenhauer explain couples who get together and decide not to have kids, but still love each other?

How does he explain homosexuality?

Considering the plummeting fertility rate in the past several decades, more and more people are choosing to remain childless, yet they still "fall in love".

>>21890164
>yeah there are now lots of great female philosophers

>>21886928
With each passing day I become more convinced that women were a mistake.

>>21883686
>female writers

>"He had seen Byron in Italy and could have met him, but he did not not. Prior to his trip, he requested Goethe to write some letters of introduction, so that he could establish some "interesting or important" acquaintances. Goethe had supplied him with one for Byron, one that he never used due to his own "stupidity." One morning he and his current beloved were strolling along the Lido, "my dulcinea cried out in great excitement, 'behold the English poet'. Byron swept by me on horseback and the donna could not let loose of this impression for the entire day. I decided then not to send Goethe's letter. I was afraid of being cuckolded. I still regret this."

Hmm...

>"Despite his later celebration of asceticism and negative views of sexuality, Schopenhauer occasionally had sexual affairs—usually with women of lower social status, such as servants, actresses, and sometimes even paid prostitutes. In a letter to his friend Anthime he claims that such affairs continued even in his mature age and admits that he had two out-of-wedlock daughters (born in 1819 and 1836), both of whom died in infancy. In their youthful correspondence Arthur and Anthime were somewhat boastful and competitive about their sexual exploits—but Schopenhauer seemed aware that women usually did not find him very charming or physically attractive, and his desires often remained unfulfilled."

This changes everything.

>>21590821
What did he mean by this?
>The woman's share in procreation is more guiltless than the man's; for he bestows upon the child its will, which is the first sin, and therefore the root of all evil; the woman, on the contrary, bestows its intellect, which is the pathway to redemption.
>Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga und paralipomena, 1851

>>21526514
>Hegel
Baka

>What a dignified man, however, is Christian Wolf in comparison with them, so little esteemed by these three sophists that they even mock him! He had and gave true thoughts; they, instead, mere words and phrases intended to deceive.

Logic. I'm sure you could make a mathematical argument for why the pursuit of existence is stupid

Other than reading books, what do people in the past used to to kill boredom?

>>20965737
>he thinks literature is better than music
bruh

>>20868580
Not an argument
>>20868588
>>>e-e-EVERYONE I-IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!
GOOD
Considering that I’ve seen what makes you fucking brainless husks CLAP I’ll take that as a fucking compliment.
I don’t give a fuck what other FEEL about me as I’m no longer a fucking preteen who cares about that sort of thing
The ONLY thing I care about is discussions of points of fact
Such as this book being retarded and bad
And has few people have actually addressed any of the arguments I’ve made to this point
I’m only going to assume said arguments don’t fucking exist
And as such be uplifted in spirit by the lack of them
Post
An
Adhom
Again

How many of you readers know the Latin language?

Books to get out of a existential/spiritual crisis?

>"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and so elevating as that of the Upanishads. They are destined sooner or later to become the faith of the people."

>To Schopenhauer the Upanishads were documents of 'almost superhuman conception,' whose authors could hardly be thought of as 'mere mortals.'

why was this boomer so obsessed with the Upanishads? I read it and it just seems like a bunch of nonsense

I noticed with myself that I'm basically never bored because I will just instantly turn on my phone or something to get some instant gratification. I do a lot of mindless searching and internet shopping and i know it's getting in the way of doing more productive things.

I've seen this idea crop up in a few places but I want to learn more about it. Any philosophy books or articles on this?

>Schopenhauer became a lecturer at the University of Berlin, the same University which Hegel worked at. He deliberately set up his lectures to be at the exact same time as Hegel’s. This was cocky - few students were willing to miss a lecture from Hegel himself to go to an unknown philosopher at the University.

Schopenhauer had no more than five attendees. One time he arrived to his lecture with no-one showing up. They were presumably flunking off or attending one of Hegel’s lectures.

Instead of packing up his things, going home, maybe learn to set his lectures at a different time, Schopenhauer did something different. Instead of refusing to admit defeat, he carried out his planned lecture to his empty lecture theatre.

This incel is the hero of /lit/? Have sex

>"So he believed that understanding an individual's sexuality was essential to understanding that individual. The fullest expression of the individual personality is in a loving sexual relationship, in which, perhaps paradoxically, the barriers and limitations of selfhood are transcended, the individual loses his sense of self and experiences oneness with the other person in the sexual act. Schopenhauer said these things unambiguously enough in his published works, but in the privacy of his unpublished notebooks he could be even more explicit, 'If I am asked where the most intimate knowledge of that inner essence of the world, of that thing in itself which I have called the will to live, is to be found, or where that essence enters most clearly into our consciousness, or where it achieves the purest revelation of itself, then I must point to ecstasy in the act of copulation. That is it! That is the true essence and core of all things, the aim and purpose of all existence' (Manuscript Remains, vol. iii, p262)."

>>20103878
The thread was ignored for so long that I already done things by myself. But thank you, anyway. Of course, I consider Freud and Marx, and I have an overall idea of what the postmodern period is. Btw, do you have something to say about Merleau-Ponty and Emmanuel Levinas?

>>20104047
Thank you. Though I'm not interested in the Chinese philosophical tradition at all.