/lit/ - Literature

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the state of /lit/

>>16739435
retard thats exactly the kind of dichotomization i'm trying to get beyond -- hence my assertion that the postmoderns CANT be classified as neither left nor right.
re-read my post
>i'm not sure what went so wrong as for the postmoderns to be associated with the left
>the way i see it the juxtaposition isn't "right v. left", with the left laying claim to the postmoderns, but moderns v. postmoderns, modernist infighting only being about which sibling gets to claim the inheritance of the now-defunct christian inheritance (ie. the culture of the west as such)
it's stunning how eager people are to jump to intellectual grandstanding on this board
(not saying i don't get it/am not guilty of it, but it's still vain and the ideal would be for everyone to stop)

>>16700529
>His description of archetypes and myths do sound like reactionary thinking, or can at least quickly be modified to fit right wing ideology.
Essentialism =/= reactionary thinking, for one.
Nor is Jung particularly essentialist. Is his work gendered? Yes, but so are the majority of mythologies, which he bases his theories on.
Right-wingers and left-wingers alike read philosophy from their own political perspective and utilize it to their own ends, generally disregarding the author's main concerns.
Remember Jung is a central figure in the new age hippie movements. Alan Watts drew heavily upon Jung. These were in their time the vanguard of the vanguard of the left.
I really, really hate the praxis of political labelling and the transient framing of concurrent discourse getting primacy in the discussion of intellectual matters, especially when it concerns bygone authors. It's vapid and unconstructive.

Jung in his Red Book
>The most masculine man needs women, and he is consequently their slave. Become a woman yourself, and you will be saved from slavery to woman.... It is good for you once to put on women's clothes: people will laugh at you, but through becoming a woman you attain freedom from women and their tyranny. The acceptance of femininity leads to completion. The same is valid for the woman who accepts her masculinity.
Jung's ideas of wholeness don't really sound like something a reactionary ("incel") would talk about. It should be taken for granted that an author can be read as a multiplicity (wasn't that the point of the postmoderns). Whlie you're not explicitly ignoring this idea it's surreptitously implied that Jung makes for a reactionary writer. Please refrain from making inferences of the sort. While not harmful it's ignorant.

>that are that

>babel of voices

>you have peaked my interest

>book is about the "silence of god"

When is the pretending to be religious meme on /lit/ going to end? We all know you’re only doing it to spite soibois who crashed your atheist sekrit club.

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>buy Polish translation of Sex and Character
>with a foreword written by a woman
>muh not all wahmen are like that, muh Weininger was a misogynist because he couldn't get his peepee wet
It's all so tiresome, bros.

>black bodies

>literature professor calls 50 shades of grey a bad book

still sold a shit ton, if it's so easy and bad why don't you write something like it and make a couple of three mil?

>Objective correlative

To the men and women of Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Sic Semper Tyrannis. If we ever get to the stars, it will be because people with your bravery and sense of duty lead us.

go fuck your mother

>aspires to be a writer
>is interested in literature
>hates poetry
I'd understand it if you are some normie tourist Plebbitor or an edgy zoomer faggot but any person seriously interested in literature or with writing aspirations should be interested in poetry. The love for words knows no form. Most if not all your favorite writers wrote poetry initially. I'm talking about Joyce, Borges, Houellebecq, Bolaño, Faulkner, and others. Some succeeded at it, some failed, some did alright. Faulkner famously said that he was a failed poet. And those writers who never tried it read it instead. Where does the title for McCarthy's No Country for Old Men come from? From a poem by Yeats. If literature is so shit these days, one of the factors is that newer writers simply dismiss poetry. I don't think they'll get anywhere. Poetry is the closest thing to magic that we have in literature.

>book called 'the gambler'
>it's only barely 3 pages about actual gambling and the rest is sappy anime tier love story, shitty soap family gossip drama and autistic power fantasies
I'm almost halfway through, hope it gets better

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yes

>author tries to convince you of his initiatic lineage

looking at you "Culadasa"!

>We're waiting for Godot.

>niggers

>author describes something as "indescribable"

>another thread about a meme philosopher/e-celeb

>decide I need to branch out from the scholarly articles and textbooks that make up 99% of the literature I read
>decide to start reading Joseph and His Brother by Thomas Mann since I've seen Mann highly recommended here and the book seems like it will be intelligent enough to keep me interested (currently finishing up my masters in physics at a top 10 uni)
>immediate overt homosexual tones in Mann's description of Joseph with an insistence on highlighting his youth and innocence in a sexual light
>hmm okay that's strange but maybe Mann is just of a Hellenic bent
>Joseph's father appears and sexual tension between them becomes so palpable I could cut it with a knife
>wtf am I reading
>wiki Thomas Mann
>find this: "Mann's diary records his attraction to his own 13-year-old son, "Eissi" – Klaus Mann: "Klaus to whom recently I feel very drawn" (22 June). In the background conversations about man-to-man eroticism take place; a long letter is written to Carl Maria Weber on this topic, while the diary reveals: "In love with Klaus during these days" (5 June). "Eissi, who enchants me right now" (11 July). "Delight over Eissi, who in his bath is terribly handsome. Find it very natural that I am in love with my son ... Eissi lay reading in bed with his brown torso naked, which disconcerted me" (25 July). "I heard noise in the boys' room and surprised Eissi completely naked in front of Golo's bed acting foolish. Strong impression of his premasculine, gleaming body. Disquiet" (17 October 1920).[21]"
>mfw
wow, great canonical authors you humanitiesfags have there. fiction is such a joke

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>4chan isn't an incel/neckbeard community