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I think the truth of the matter is a combination of bits of all the posts made in this thread so far. They all touch upon grains of truth, from sociological to ontological, and when put together they form a bigger picture.

Here's how I see it myself: Do I think people can live righteously without believing in some sort of god(s)? Absolutely. Will they? most of them won't, at least. The belief in supreme, higher entities that you could dedicate yourself to is an easy way to cultivate a sense of purpose and justice in life, and more importantly than that, it's a fast-pass ticket to forming a cohesive, tightly-knit social unit. From what I've seen, and having lived in a highly religious country for most of my life, the benefits of religion are best exemplified in its social effects rather than spiritual effects. You have a group, they all share moral values, they all share cultural background, and they all share a similar ontological stance on life. When you introduce atheism into the mix, things a lot less cohesive and far more blurry. Without a belief in absolute transcendental laws, you'll have a much harder time asserting any sort of moral values, you'll get ontological stances up the wazoo, and culture starts losing its weight when people have to rethink the last hundreds of years of their history. It is essentially anti-establishment, but people need an establishment to belong to together, as humans are naturally highly-social creatures, having a sense of community is integral to sustaining ourselves lest we risk extreme disenfranchisement (NOTE: secularity is not the sole factor in this, it's just one of many). Frankly, total freedom is a burden, and not one that many people find beauty in when put to practice. Even secularists need something to latch onto amongst a group of their peers.

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>so don't worry, be happy
Amazing... so this is the power of philosophy...

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