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Why is Gnosticism so big amongst literary types?

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>>23113919
>Poe is a bad poet, a poor critic, and a dreadful prose stylist in his celebrated tales.
>Almost anyone can retell the "Fall of the House of Usher" more effectively than Poe does, because Poe's diction in uniquely abominable. As for the most famous Poe lyrics--"The Raven," "The Bells," "Annabel Lee" and the astonishingly dreadful "Ulalume,"--you can abandon yourself to them if you want to, but what is it that Poe gives you?"
>In Poe's art of sinking poetry every deep conceals a lower deep, a bathos more profound.

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Art doesn't necessarily have rules but it does tend to have guidelines and it's easier to break the rules if you understand them. What are these guidelines for writing good prose? I've heard
>Use verbs and nouns, cut down on adverbs and adjectives when describing things. Use verbs that are descriptive, avoid very basic ones
>Minimize using words that just state things as a matter of fact (ie is, was, had, would, could, etc) or that sound uncertain or passive (might, may, be, am)
>Minimize using words that end in -ing
>Look for cliches and cut them out
>Cut out unnecessary or redundant words and phrases in general, avoid "overexplaining" something
>Make sure your descriptions actually make sense and are accurate
>Vary up length and the tone of sentences, sometimes a long description is appropriate, sometimes a very short sentence with a very strong verb is better
>Generally, shorter descriptions are better, just because there is a smaller likelihood that there is unnecessary padding.
Granted there are always going to be exceptions. What else is there?

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School of Resentment killed literature

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>>22841426
/lit/ sucked him off for years and years. he was this epic le based litcritic at yale who wrote a lot of books about the Western Canon. but before that he was known as a Romanticist who wrote a few books on the Romantic poets/Shelley. iirc he basically singlehandedly saved Shelley's reputation, he was on his way out (little read, less appreciated) before bloom earned his stripes so to speak by defending him. after that, he situated himself as the last defender of the canon and made a career out of wailing and moaning about its demise. every year or so he'd release another torrent of unedited slop where he'd just say the wildest shit. shakespeare invented introspection, nobody thought about themselves before shakespeare came up with it. the bible was written by a woman who intended it as a shits and giggles satire. etc, etc. he'd also drop withering critiques of popular books -- he famously hated Harry Potter, hated Stephen King -- and from time to time he would grab a legal pad and write a long essay bitching about how there was a book published by a black woman that year so it meant no one read tolstoy anymore or something. /lit/ loves to feel smarter than everyone else, especially when they can feel morally superior, and especially especially when they can feel superior while punching women/blacks/gays/whatever, so the board glommed onto this guy. of course /lit/ doesn't read. they thought (some still think) that bloom was this incredible scholar whose name made lesser critics shudder in their sleep, they had no idea that he was essentially a joke in academia and hadn't published respected work in decades, but he told people what they wanted to hear, and there's always a market for outrage. after his death, /lit/ has begun to realize that nobody took him seriously and that many of his opinions are bullshit, and now they're trying to pretend like they never liked him. time was every other fucking post on this board was a bloom reference.

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Admit it: he’d be /lit/‘s hero if it wasn’t for the fact he was (((one)))

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>>22603113
Wtf we out here bloom posting

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>He hasn't read Gilgamesh Egyptian Book of the Dead Holy Bible (King James Version) The Apocrypha Sayings of the Fathers (Pirke Aboth) Mahabharata Bhagavad-Gita Ramayana Homer Iliad Odyssey Hesiod Works and Days Theogony Archilochos, Sappho, Alkman Pindar Odes Aeschylus Oresteia Seven Against Thebes Prometheus Bound Persians Suppliant Women Sophocles Oedipus the King Oedipus at Colonus Antigone Electra Ajax Women of Trachis Philoctetes Euripides Cyclops Heracles Alcestis Hecuba Bacchae Orestes Andromache Medea Ion Hippolytus Helen Iphigenia at Aulis Aristophanes The Birds The Clouds The Frogs Lysistrata The Knights The Wasps The Assemblywomen Herodotus The Histories Thucydides The Peloponnesian Wars The Pre-Socratics (Heraclitus, Empedocles) Plato Dialogues Aristotle Poetics Ethics Hellenistic Greeks Menander The Girl from Samos "Longinus" On the Sublime Callimachus Hymns and Epigrams Theocritus Idylls Plutarch Lives Moralia "Aesop" Fables Lucian Satires Plautus Pseudolus The Braggart Soldier The Rope Amphitryon Terence The Girl from Andros The Eunuch The Mother-in-Law Lucretius The Way Things Are Cicero On the Gods Horace Odes Epistles Satires Persius Satires Catullus Attis and Other Poems Virgil Aeneid Eclogues Georgics Lucan Pharsalia Ovid Metamorphoses The Art of Love Heroides Juvenal Satires Martial Epigrams Seneca Tragedies, particularly Medea and Hercules Furens Petronius Satyricon Apuleius The Golden Ass Saint Augustine City of God Confessions The Koran (Al-Qur'an) The Book of the Thousand Nights and One Night The Poetic Edda Snorri Sturluson The Prose Edda The Nibelungen Lied Wolfram von Eschenbach Parzival Chrétien de Troyes Yvain: The Knight of the Lion Beowulf The Poem of the Cid Christine de Pisan The Book of the City of Ladies Diego de San Pedro Prison of Love Dante The Divine Comedy The New Life Petrarch Lyric Poems Selections Giovanni Boccaccio The Decameron Matteo Maria Boiardo Orlando Innamorato Ludovico Ariosto Orlando Furioso Michelangelo Buonarroti Sonnets and Madrigals Niccolò Machiavelli The Prince The Mandrake, a Comedy Leonardo da Vinci Notebooks Baldassare Castiglione The Book of the Courtier Gaspara Stampa Sonnets and Madrigals Giorgio Vasari Lives of the Painters Benvenuto Cellini Autobiography Torquato Tasso Jerusalem Delivered Giordano Bruno The Expulsion of the Triumphant Beast Tommaso Campanella Poems The City of the Sun Giambattista Vico Principles of a New Science Carlo Goldoni The Servant of Two Masters Vittorio Alfieri Saul Portugal Luis de Camoëns The Lusiads

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>>22463208
>Rolls in grave

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Was he right?

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I'm about to start a master's program in English literature because I genuinely love the subject, but looking at the syllabus this will be a slog.

It's literally all Foucault, Adorno, Lukacs, Susan "the white race is the cancer of history" Sonntag &c. &c., and >50% of the fiction is written by some kind of brown gay feminist railing against whites and western civilization. Gone are the days of Milton and Shakespeare.

Can I even get through this without selling my soul to Satan? I just wanna analyze some literature, not man the barricades ffs. I wish I was born a century ago. Have any of you chuds made it all the way to teaching at a university level? Should I just quit asap, get a real job and enjoy literature in private while the Kali Yuga eats away at our precious canon?

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>>22384170
What in the world...

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>>22099202
>drooling over Shakespeare
but that's the best part

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>>22074261
Beautiful book, don't know what bloom was on about

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>>22054485
If you don't read for hours a day, at a modest pace of at least one page per minute or (at most) two minutes, then you will never, ever get to experience reading. If you can't read the canon in your lifetime, then there is no point in you writing, let alone posting on /lit/. It beggars belief anyone would post on a literature forum without having read all that is to be read, and read deeply.
Even if you are a slow reader, you can read four hours a day outside of work. That is at least 120 pages a day. Across a week, that would be a longish novel, or a few shorter ones. It certainly would be enough for several poetry selections.
Across a year, you should do at least 45,000 pages of reading. If you start reading from 18 until your 60s (when your mind deteriorates slowly, but you will hold onto your faculties if you read a lot), then you would have read nearly 2,000,000 pages in your lifetime. That is thousands of books.
Start now. Before it is too late. If you don't read around 5000-10,000 books, then you have not read the best that has been written, then you can't be said to have read at all.
If you're reading this now, then it means you can read books. Don't be like the rest of the plebeians who languish in obscure ignorance. Do not write if you cannot read the best that has been written, since you cannot be said to be able to think.

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What does /lit/ think of Harold Bloom?

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What was /lit/ like when he died?

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what the fuck was his problem?

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Mmmmmmm Shakespeare.

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>when Bloom thinks about his dream property and calls it “Flowerville”
Other parts of Ulysses hit you in the feels?

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wow the western canon seems cool
nice to see someone have standards in the modern er-
>is jewish
>never wrote a good book
yeeeeah nevermind the canon is cringe and this guy is burning in hell lol

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>>21622765
Enders Game ripoff

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No thanks

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>calls poe, lovecraft, and tolkien horrible nigh unreadable authors
what are the odds harold bloom is burning in hell right now?

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