/lit/ - Literature

>>23312946
If the premise of even the most serious theology is pure fantasy what use is there to knock down all six quadrillion permutations of isvara/brahmā/yahweh/zeus/demiurge? Those theologies which shy away from a personal, active, and anthropomorphic god the most are virtually crypto-atheisms themselves, e.g. Spinoza, Shankara, etc., preserving the label of God but not its content. The final step is to admit the label is a placeholder, which the Buddhist does freely

>>23284312
If you've read your jeets, japs, and tibetans they do indeed go deeper, but it's a comic book we're talking about here not Buddhist scholasticism.

>>22775826
Buddhism is a religion

>>22573902
>To acquire mind one must need mind - one loses it when one no longer needs it. He who possesses strength divests himself of mind
really would have made an excellent Mahayanist

>>22548062
>>22548128
>>22549260
Schope was relying on translations which among other things rendered dukkha as dolor, "pain," and his entire appreciation of Buddhism is based on assuming it is in agreement with his pessimism and quieting of the will in order to overcome pain. It is less a matter of pain and suffering and more that the elements (dharma) of experience as grasped are in a state of commotion or unrest... one suffers in the sense that this can be experienced as pain if his mind is weak or clouded and sees lasting substance in any of this momentariness to cling to. Nietzsche rejects Schope's Buddhism insofar as it is nihilism to him, but a passive nihilism free of ressentiment. A better understanding of Buddhism, especially through the prajñaparamita literature of Mahayana for which emptiness is the central concept, is not going to come around until well after Nietzsche, e.g. Stcherbatsky, Obermiller, Conze, or through popularizers of Zen like DT Suzuki. (Bataille and Heidegger are thus able to read Zen and Nietzsche and move in that direction somewhat). Certainly any formulation of samsara as not other than nirvana—as is common property of the Mahayana schools—would meet Nietzsche's definition of life affirming. The bodhisattva does will his own eternal return, for the benefit of the world, no matter how long it takes for others to mature.

>>22472203
>this is fake
you're getting there

>>22446733
Christianity nominally fended off gnosticism/manichaeism (a Persian influence) but in reality kept the idea that the world should be shunned as sinful so there is that. The pure land of Amida, where one prays for rebirth into, where there is no worldly suffering and only pleasant support for the practice of dharma is also the "western paradise," and the relevant sutras introduced to China came from monks who originated from India's western cultural frontier with Persia. Given the extensive and enduring Buddhist practice of baptizing local gods and practices into itself as a conversion/acculturation tactic it seems very plausible for a Persian genealogy to the most devotional Mahayanist practices, though not in the same way Christianity absorbed (Greco-)Persian thought. In a sense Amida is a benevolent demiurge (any buddha-land essentially is like this, not just Amida's), and on the Christian side there is no demiurge per se as the highest (and only) God created both heaven AND earth with no intermediaries. However, since one is meant to renounce the earth for heaven there is that trace of manichaeism, resolved insofar as man is now evil instead of the creator.

>>22379017
>Nietzsche does not want a civilized world: he wants an animal and mystical world, where the human being is a dreamlike and unconscious beast. This is the myth of the superman. Dreams, imaginations, and tricks attain the same status of reality as waking events, scientific truths, or philosophical axioms.
Nietzsche is telling you to overcome the world of false imagination, not to sink yourself into it. Everything you list as a supposed objective counter-weight to the supposed subjective is merely your own attempt to escape from reality, to use your tongue as a weapon instead of the claws you've had removed. Civilization is only pretty because it has a sewage system, but all of the shit is still there a few feet away from you. To reify and embrace reason or consciousness or rationality or objectivity or whatever concept you are hewing to is to take an epiphenomenon as a noumenon, piling nonsense on top of nonsense so as to better repudiate and deny what is immediately and intuitively felt. When Nietzsche calls himself a European Buddha there is a deep irony to it—a European Nagarjuna had not come along to clarify him, only thoss European Sariputras who can recite him.

>>22046167
>delusion
It's all delusion sweatie. You have to read more if you want to read less.

>>21810246
>the most efficient way to convey information
Information yes, understanding no.

>>21758091
>repeat until we're god or some shit like that
if you are not doing this you're ngmi

>>21655601
>he doesn't know

>>21596600
Nearly everything you think of as Mahayana has its muted antecedents in pre-Mahayana sources. It's a Buddhism that evolved along a different route is ultimately my point. Your sectarian larping is immaterial to anyone wishing to learn. There is no question that exposure to Protestants altered the way south Asian Buddhism presents and conceives of itself, not unlike how exposure to Islam affected the surviving Indo-Tibetan Buddhists, or how exposure to Chinese philosophy impacted east Asian Buddhism. You are being polemical, simple as

>>21448768
>All of West Eurasia should have become either Buddhist or Hindu.
based ashoka poster

>>21392766
basado

>>21369795
They discovered that all philosophy is context sensitive. FREE GYM MEMBERSHIP

>>21320598
>Art could never be invoked to paint and clarify these myths and allegories
Are all of Wagner's takes this bad?

>>21292862
The fast food version of the religion is for people who are on that level.

>>21229656
>anyone who disagrees with me is uneducated and breathes through his mouth
this but unironically

>>20955741
>enlightenment is something that must be attained through the accumulation of knowledge
what part of "gone, gone, that shit's fucking gone bro" wasn't clear? Read the prajñaparamita lit

>>20843504
>Gautama
>Pyrrho
>Hume

>>20812412
>What kind of fool approaches metaphysics
only fools approach metaphysics

>>20682446
This but unironically. It's not like the covenant theology religions where you make a pact with a demon to receive presents when you die.

>>20644268
>"No one can purify another" is a complete rejection of proselytizing. Buddhists can't even proselytize even if they wanted to, because there is no such thing as "converting" to Buddhism within the Buddhist faith.
not him, not quite right either. I think you're being a little obtuse. What this means is that no one can liberate another person, one can only point the way and offer instruction as a spiritual friend. Buddhism is 1. absolutely a proselytizing religion, which is why (You) have heard of it and it is dead in its own homeland but not in those of the people you heard of it from, and 2. not without formalities one may participate in such as joining the sangha, taking the precepts, abhiseka, etc. One can certainly "convert" and nearly every discourse in the nikayas ends with, to paraphrase ever so slightly: "oh how brilliant sirs, from this day I shall do the needful and take refuge in this teacher, this teaching, and this community"