/lit/ - Literature

Skip the "New Atheists." Even when they're right they have no style

>>23361409

>>23364669
>New Atheists
they're not very deep, their main objections to theism revolve around it being a belief associated with stupid conservative anti-intellectuals, and all the new atheists really do is affirm atheism to both spite these people and show it is a better fit with liberal values, which are just more universal Christian values writ large, better Christians than the Christians themselves, as Nietzsche foresaw

>>23227695
Since [neo-]paganism is inherently a rejection of Christian values, theology, and culture, it is important to understand Christianity first. If you find you actually agree with Christianity but are sad over something entirely superficial like that you can't have an idol because it isn't kosher to be mistaken for a heathen—fear not! There is no need to leave a church which opens its altar to Pachamama.

>>23101249
>Assmann
That's funny, I've had him on my reading list for a while now due to pic related. Thanks for the rec, I think I'll read him next.

>>22941455
skip the new atheists
>>22941489
I would recommend Bataille and Spinoza before Land

>>22932747
new atheism sucks, read anti-monotheism

>>22820587
relevant literature

>>22762265
stop right there volcano boy, this is an oedipal board

>>22686114
all of that blathering assumes one has already agreed with you and is seeking further instruction, but there is nothing to see here other than two thousand years of whining that everyone else is a demon, if I wanted to hear that I would put on CNN coverage of the Israeli-Palestian war

>>22665867
Using "you have a false God/religion/theology" as a casus belli is an innovation of mosaic religion, using this pretext insincerely is perhaps even more monstrous than being sincere

>>22635957

>>22574503
>This was understood
indeed, as an EGYPTIAN, Moses would have been familiar with pagan religion

>>22430848
>I'll emphasize Shinto a short bit because not many straight polytheistic religions continue into the modern era.
Shinto is a deliberate creature of modernity, Japanese Buddhism has better continuity with Japanese "polytheistic religion" than Shinto does. But to really understand the otherization of paganism in the first place as a kind of fake religion compared to the "real" religion of monotheism, you'll have to start with the Assmann.

>>22335338
>uhhh you can't have something come from nothing
agreed, and early Roman critics of Christianity found your doctrine of creation ex nihilo to be retarded and considered Christians to be atheists

>>22307092
Didn't we have this thread yesterday?

>>22302386
ENTER

>>22252950
Like Julian Augustus (pbuh) and Tertullian I agree christers should neither study pagan literature nor instruct others in it

>>22223421
>liberal democracy, which Chesterton sees as "fundamentally Christian"
Isn't it great when a writer does all your work for you? To write a polemic against Christianity you could simply cite Chesterton and harrumph the same as he does.

>>22216432
>christer
>anti-semite
radioactive levels of cognitive dissonance

OP is bad bait. For the ultimate takedown of Abrahamism, read Assmann, Nietzsche, and Freud. Supplement with the Roman critics of Christianity. Then start studying the 'Jeets.

>>22124798
He didn't start with the Assmann

>>22102980
Freud is kino

>>22093222
>>22093222
>Christians argued their case from the start and were generally martyred for it
The Romans, a pious people, had the christers killed for being atheists. And Julian wanted to ban them from giving or receiving classical education, not because "academia was becoming Christian" but because he felt they should rely on their own literature and not that of pagans. For the same reason he wanted to have the Jewish Temple rebuilt a third time—because he understood the arguments of the religion and how to undermine them. If Christians cannot borrow Plato, they can no longer speak a fanciful and philosophical language, cannot repupose the allegorical tradition of the pagan writers to match with their own texts, and thus limited to their shrieking and glossolalia will have greater difficulty converting elite educated persons. And if the Temple is standing their argument for abandoning Judaism (a number of Roman critics of Christianity understood it was a sort of revolt against that ancestral religion) is moot. But in going after the intellectual foundations of the religion he missed what the Japanese understood intuitively when confronted—that there was no way to argue with this adversary which thrives on its own death and on clandestine support and it needed to be actively guarded against. The old (pre-Meiji) requirement that all Japanese register themselves with a Buddhist temple dates to the suppression of christer missionary activity. The late Romans lacked this infrastructure and mindset, for paganism had no central authority linking all its disparate cults and shrines.

>>21947980
books (You) may like, at the very least