/lit/ - Literature

>>18788166
>yeah, of course they can do whatever they want, I'm just giving the editors some advice to consider, taking into account their recent struggles
anon i understand all of this, i was establishing that i wasn't you (before parroting your opinions)

>>18786848
wat do u guys think about motorcycles? homosexual? cringe? ive slipped by a quarter of a century without a car license and now its just way easier to get a motorcycle

>>14783949
ok disc msg #4099 nunch
if its a boy i suggest Aldous tho. also i realized how much i liked magda when i heard it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFkRtjrrM5k

such a good film.

i've been thinking about this thread in light of what software-engineer anon has raised and a couple of things came to mind.

the first is the question about the rate of technological advance. the nightmare-fuel visions in the later chapters of FN are nothing if not immanent. if AI progression happens more slowly than anticipated for engineering reasons, how does this change the reception of land's ideas? of late he's been tweeting mostly thinly-veiled statements about political issues and this is a far cry the turbo-critique he did back then. if technological progress proceeds slower than anticipated, and if anything like a singularity is not coming anytime soon, wat do? as a concept teleoplexy still stands on its own as much as hegelian spirit (they are, i think, almost like twins). but what we're talking about is the question of their being *enacted* in time. hegel *saw* napoleon go across his lawn, and marx *saw* revolutions in 1848 and elsewhere. land alludes to something like Napoleon-AI but, as that anon has said, we haven't seen that yet and may not any time soon.

so there is a danger in being millennarian about these things. and kurzweil is a good example, a brilliant guy who may be misguidedly praying to see an AI event in his lifetime. it's worth noting that while technological progress relative to the industrial revolution has been rapid, this is also due also to seismic upheaval tied to epochal events in history, such as WW2. innovation-booms followed, but it's not necessarily the case that comparable innovation can be expected. so i find myself somewhere between primordial heideggerian Being and landian teleoplexy, these two discourses on time. in one sense capital itself seems to be commensurate with the manufacture and consumption of time.

i've read piketty's thesis also about capital in the 21C, although it was a while ago. if capital shifts to clusters of inherited wealth we might see a less innovative society, and even if some unknown tech were discovered it might be put to work in manufacturing the same products we see today for a society which differs from our own only in the scale of its inequality.

i wanted to share this passage also.

>The novelty about the most characteristic nineteenth-century utopias was that in them history would not come to a stop. Bourgeois expected an era of endless improvement, material, intellectual and moral, through liberal progress; proletarians, or those who saw themselves as speaking for them, expected it through revolution. But both expected it.

it does seem remarkably easy to talk today about utopia, revolution and singularity in almost the same way, history given a *meaning* or a telos. and imho land really has come up with one: a phenomenology waiting for Napoleon. kind of interesting.

random art b/c why not.

>>11056124
i found less than nothing bretty gud. definitely helped me to understand lacan in my lacan phase. depends on how into hegel/lacan/zizek you are.

>D&R
deleuze is an absolute genius. his book on nietzsche also is worth reading. nietzsche himself is always worth re-reading. but deleuze is a go.

>aurobindo
i've been reading him also recently, his essays on the upanishads and others. i've sort of half-heartedly looked at TLD now and again and it's...well, 1100+ pages of consistency. you'll probably like it if you like hegel.

lots of free stuff here.

http://www.sriaurobindoashram.org/ashram/sriauro/writings.php

off the top of my head...what else has really baked my noodle?

bernard stiegler has some interesting stuff, if you like heidegger. yuk hui.

nick land b/c accelerationism is interesting, although it does lead to burnout. which is fitting. ray brassier, but maybe you've read him already too.

there's voegelin, i suppose. order and history should take you a while. i haven't gotten through all of that but you might dig it.

these days tho i'm burned out from acceleration so i'm more into the eastern stuff also. excess brooding on capitalism has left me feeling pretty worn out so i'm very much more fond of mystical nondualism.