/lit/ - Literature

>>16487747
when you start to dig into the midle ages you realise that we have fallen for some very effective propaganda

everything was about color and light the vitriols and the cathedrals were made with new technologies so as to allow the maximum light inside with as much colors as posible. in that same maner books achived their peak in terms of crafmanship and care full of colors and light, the catholic church created the first universities etc

the other day I was in another forum and some poster say a very interesting thing that scholasticism could eventually lead to "de-construction", scholasticism leads to scientific thinking but it also can lead to fracture like a "proto critical theory"...unfortunatelly science did end up fracturing our cosmological conception now everything is pure materialism devoid of spiritually/sacrum, it would be very interesting to retake a path of union between the two, I'm a EE student and at least for me they do coexist, theology and the technical/physics are both important to me like it was for Kepler, Newton, Pascal, Durer, Lemaitre...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholasticism
>Scholasticism was a medieval school of philosophy that employed a critical method of philosophical analysis presupposed upon a Latin Catholic theistic curriculum which dominated teaching in the medieval universities in Europe from about 1100 to 1700. It originated within the Christian monastic schools that were the basis of the earliest European universities.

>Scholasticism is a method of learning, as it places a strong emphasis on dialectical reasoning to extend knowledge by inference and to resolve contradictions. Scholastic thought is also known for rigorous conceptual analysis and the careful drawing of distinctions. In the classroom and in writing, it often takes the form of explicit disputation; a topic drawn from the tradition is broached in the form of a question, oppositional responses are given, a counterproposal is argued and oppositional arguments rebutted. Because of its emphasis on rigorous dialectical method, scholasticism was eventually applied to many other fields of study

>>16412840
>>16412871
exactly, almost every great scientist was inspired by the work of God, that was the mindset: to know and try to understand the work of God, in fact that is all we humans are doing, we are here interacting with the cosmos(order) but the universe is not our creation! we did not make it!, this is a fact, and "the first cause" for all made things for all of nature is called God, could God be a quantum fluctuation in the infinite void? I don't know the bible start by saying he is "logos" this means a logic or a "logic and an action" as when we speak a "word"

>>16307680
reminder that the so called dark ages is the period right after the fall of rome the fall had many factors: the barbarians/nord tribes, diseases plagues and muslim invations/wars and theres recent evidence of low food production because of volcanic activity it took a long time for europe to get back on their feet and by the mid of the middle ages (1000 AD) we start to see a reflourishing with new developments like the cathedrals which were the tallest bulldings in the world and many other great development in arts and craft, the catholic church basically founded the modern universities to this day a lot of the most important universities have a christian cross in their "coat of arms", music notation was standarized by the church they impremented trivium and quadrivium education etc...it would be good if this system was re-implemented along with Latin and greek study

the fall of rome was traumatic and basically a reset for europe, the catholic church was the one trying to preserve civilization (all material empires fall, nothing new, this goes according to theology, even the catholic church will see a painful decline and reset, we are seeing right now the start)... on the other hand the Eastern Roman Empire, was still trying to keep things together they even preserved a lot of the ancient greek literature (contrary to popular belive that they were lost or forgotten bizantium did had greek manuscrips)

>"In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages (or medieval period) lasted from the 5th to the 15th century. It began with the fall of the Western Roman Empire and merged into the Renaissance and the Age of Discovery."

>"On April 30, 711, Muslim General Tariq ibn-Ziyad landed at Gibraltar and by the end of the campaign most of the Iberian Peninsula (except for small areas in the north-west such as Asturias and the Basque territory) were brought under Islamic rule."

the muslim invasion is a mix bag, it brought some interesting things but as a whole it was a decline for europe, the fact is those territories had to return to europe it took a LOT of time and effort but they had to return,after the retake europe flourished and catholic spain even conquered a "new world" , the holy roman empire was form by those same barbarians tribes that were part in the sack of rome no less(but now they were christians and now they have the gift of civilization), thats how powerful all this is... on contrast now the "caliphates" are in general in a very deplorable state