/lit/ - Literature

>>10082023
>Why are people who read neatsay so fucking stupid?
They don't.

>>10082023
I hate it when someone just drops a famous name like that. They act all smart because they've read something but they can't even explain it well.

>>10082054

Because he is the birth of post modernism, the stain on western culture

>>10082078
Or maybe you are just dumb

>>10082023
>>10082080
What is she from?

>>10082023
Says the guy posting stupid pol memes and orbiting aome reddit-tier whore. You reek of baseness

>>10082131
a political protest. do you seriously not browse /pol/?

>>10082139
No, but I'd be interested to see the video if you could post it.

>>10082149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRq4EAbhheE

I don't get why you fags meme her so hard, the dark haired one is cuter

>>10082187
plus she is the voice of reason

>>10082126
If you read Aristotle you'd understand

>>10082195
Explain?

>>10082171
Wow, she's wonderful. A person like that could really go far in life if she just understood her attraction.

>>10082023
If people read beyond good and evil with even a basic understanding then they'd realize he would have hated the people who are like this cunt.

So what did Nietzsche say about truth?

>>10082207
Maybe you're just dumb

>>10082121
>le imperium is for men

>>10082210
>"why don't you read beyond good and evil and then you'll see what Nietzsche really meant"

really?

>>10082223
The way he speaks of the camel, the lion and the child is very revealing of how he views the evolution of humanity and SJWs are the very height of what's wrong with the camel. They are disloyal, constantly complaining, and lazy yet still passive beyond all measure in their moral leanings and manner once outside of the occasional riot.

>>10082237
And yet, they'll all live more enjoyable lives than Nietzsche did.

>>10082241
>Muh emotional gratification
You're not even arguing on the same axis as Nietzsche anon.

>>10082241
Nietzsche was an incredibly sickly and grouchy man living in the 19th century as a poor writer. Literally everybody who can house and feed themselves today has a better standard of living than those circumstances. Hell, add in Aristotle or Plato and argue about how destitute they are. Surely, such low standards of living dispute any argument they could have.

>>10082241
Nietzsche never argued for "enjoyable lives"

>>10082255
>>10082262
>>10082263
>It's not about enjoyment it's about "fulfillment!"
Literally just enjoyment under a different name. Don't kid yourselves.

>it's an another alt-right wanker vs indoctrinated liberal name-dropping half-imbecile episode
God bless I am European

>>10082241
Their children won't though, assuming they ever have them. The hyper-individualized Marxist programming these hyper-individualistic white people are prone to embracing is a kind of fake identity these lost souls adopt since our jewish-run system has pumped them full of propaganda telling them their racial identity is evil. So they become a fill-in-the-blank freak as a substitute. Their children and grandchildren are who will suffer upon coming of age in societies that have been taken over by the shitskins the jews presently manipulating their pink-haired, punch a fascist granny let in, because they are who will have to remove these jews and fight to take it back.

>>10082288
Blind hedonistic enjoyment is nothing more than sticking yourself into a skinner box, getting bored and then trying to find a new one. Fulfillment means constantly raising your own expectations and becoming something better than you were earlier and thereby advancing yourself and all of humanity.

>>10082171

>/pol/ is obsessed with a man-hating lesbian in a black ski cap

Pottery

I doubt anyone in charge is browsing /lit/ right now, especially not in this thread, but if you are, please make me a mod so I can wash this board clean with nuclear fire. It'll be such a continuous purge, so many permanent bans will he thrown around, that other boards will never crosspost cheap bait here again.

I'll do it boyos, I'll do it for free. Just give me the chance.

>>10082303
"Fulfillment" is anything you want it to be. It's not something that physically exists.
>>10082301
No one identified with race until recently. It has always been national pride, Poles were Poles, Irish were Irish. Only recently did the weak and brittle of society identify with a "race." Keep it to yourself, I don't care.

>>10082323
Don't be an idiot, nation has always meant race and was so implicit as to be assumed until 1965 when jews were able to change immigration laws in the west. White people will continue to embrace that identity as their replacement continues and that is both natural and necessary.

>>10082336
Except people in France 0 AD would have killed you if you showed up 50 miles north of your village. Come on, type less and think more. Who knows, you may actually enjoy the mental quiet for once.

>>10082292
I thank God everyday that I was not born in America

>>10082171
Im not even sure which side was worse here

>>10082348
You must be a mulatto with no identity or something. The scope has changed and the coming century will be defined by white people embracing their collective racial identity and taking their countries back from the shitskin hordes our jewish-run institutions are letting through the gates. You're arguing against an inevitability.

>>10082369
You must be a Spaniard with no identity or something. The scope has changed and the coming century will be defined by Romans embracing their collective racial identity and taking their empire back from the shitskin hordes our pagan-run institutions are letting through the gates. You're arguing against an inevitability.

>>10082369
Well said

>>10082320
lmao at this wannabe janicuck internet policeman

>>10082387
You literally care so much about this "argument" you're replying to yourself.

Most Philosophy worth reading needs supplemental study. The problem is its not 'exciting', takes a long time and with so much extant scholariship its difficult to even know whats what and where to begin - then you have to try find it. 'Tards on the internet read the penguin classics intro and think theyre experts. Thats what most 'misinterpretation' is

>>10082383
Nice

>>10082395
He replied to me you fucking retard.

>>10082139
/pol/ is trash

>>10082446
you're trash

>>10082452
ur cuck

>>10082452

>>10082465
cucky mccuckface

Has /pol/ moved from its phase of pseudo-Nietzscheanism to positivism because there was a trump protester who also liked Nietzsche & that's bad?

>>10082452
Hang yourself

>>10082292
>>10082360
Hahahahahahaha go outside nigger

>>10082492
Well now there's all the people who "believe" in God because aalewis. It does well to remember, especially on lit and mu, most people are motivated by social trends and fashion over anything they actually believe.

someone post some kiddie porn to lure in mods, please

>>10082171
>Niichii
lol

>>10082577
>be redditor newfag that cares about making quality posts
>probably a leftist
>pedophile
Checks out

>>10082591
>right wing nut
>complains about pedophilia
>calls me the newfag redditor
You're the cancer.

>>10082604
>quite literally just requested cp
>not a pedo
ok buddy

>>10082446
you don't belong on 4chan

>>10082446
>>10082904
4chan for me has always been about getting some relief from social groupthink. To that end, /pol is literally the weakest, most pathetic excuse for a 4chan board I have ever seen, since it is entirely accepting and encouraging of groupthink and attempts to ((((educate)))) aka indoctrinate people around a set of assumptions.

/pol is absolute garbage, a waste of what this site could be, made by people who want to be contrarian but literally can't stomach it and so they make a new set of safe and predictable social norms in the last place they should exist. Just to reiterate, it's fucking pathetic. Anyone who mains /pol and accepts their widespread "truths" is a scared little cunt who doesn't belong on this website.

>>10082904
I am a far more nuanced racist than the wigger nationalist trash that would frequent /pol/, I prefer to spend my time with balkan war criminals, spanish HVAC technicians and italian rent boys.

>>10082209
>>10082171
She's a qt I know I could convert if I just had the chance

>>10082977
>I am a far more nuanced racist than the wigger nationalist trash that would frequent /pol/, I prefer to spend my time with balkan war criminals, spanish HVAC technicians and italian rent boys.

>>10082990
I know that feel. I want to turn her into a traditionalist and lead her away from cancerous leftist thought. I know its possible

>>10082994
Newfag

>>10082990
All women become conservatives with a strong male role model. problem is these days most men are nu-makes

>>10082990
>>10083028

>>10082023
We are not stupid. We are perhaps a little arrogant and more than a little sentimental, but stupid? It is not possible to love Nietzsche and not love knowledge. The two are the same

>>10083135
postmodernist trash just like you

>>10082492
Do you even know what positivism is?

>>10083154
>Nietzsche
>postmodernism
>even modernism
RE-TARD

>>10082323
jej americans have no national identity so they have to go by race

>>10083409
Hey bro
It seems like you could really do with some books to help you with those frustrations. I used to think I was to smart to be nice to people too but I as I got older I learned that everyone has their own issues. These great books might help you out a great deal!:

1 The Great Gatsby Scott Fitzgereld.
2 The Celestine prophesy by James Redfield.
3. Life was never meant to be a struggle, Stuart Wilde.
4 the sound and the fury by Faulknert.
5. Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ
by Daniel Goleman Read it!
6. Steinbecks of Mice and men.
7. You are not so smart by david Mcraney

>>10082023
Because people who study the humanities are stupid.
I can understand getting into it at an older age, or if you're rich. But these kids are reading this shit hoping for answers that just aren't there.
t. Philosophy student turned Finance Student

>>10082139
if you browse /pol/ its probably best to keep it a secret

>>10082171
Why is she so perfect, bros?

>>10082171
>bitch can't even pronounce nietzsche
what a mess

oi guys, quick reminder you could be reading instead of discussing /pol/itics in the wrong board.

>>10083609
There is literally nothing wrong with saying "Neetchi", I doubt he would even care

>>10083665
Its impossible to talk about philosophy without bordering onto politics. Also you could just take your own advice and read instead of coming here.

>>10083572
/pol/ has the highest IQ on average over all other boards

>>10083409
"Nietzsche is also a precursor for postmodernism in his genealogical analyses of fundamental concepts, especially what he takes to be the core concept of Western metaphysics, the “I”. On Nietzsche's account, the concept of the “I” arises out of a moral imperative to be responsible for our actions. In order to be responsible we must assume that we are the cause of our actions, and this cause must hold over time, retaining its identity, so that rewards and punishments are accepted as consequences for actions deemed beneficial or detrimental to others (Nietzsche 1889, 482-83; 1887, 24-26, 58-60). In this way, the concept of the “I” comes about as a social construction and moral illusion. According to Nietzsche, the moral sense of the “I” as an identical cause is projected onto events in the world, where the identity of things, causes, effects, etc., takes shape in easily communicable representations. Thus logic is born from the demand to adhere to common social norms which shape the human herd into a society of knowing and acting subjects.

For postmodernists, Nietzsche's genealogy of concepts in “On Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense” (Nietzsche 1873, 77–97) is also an important reference. In this text, Nietzsche puts forward the hypothesis that scientific concepts are chains of metaphors hardened into accepted truths. On this account, metaphor begins when a nerve stimulus is copied as an image, which is then imitated in sound, giving rise, when repeated, to the word, which becomes a concept when the word is used to designate multiple instances of singular events. Conceptual metaphors are thus lies because they equate unequal things, just as the chain of metaphors moves from one level to another. Hegel's problem with the repetition of the “this” and the “now” is thus expanded to include the repetition of instances across discontinuous gaps between kinds and levels of things.

In close connection with this genealogy, Nietzsche criticizes the historicism of the nineteenth century in the 1874 essay, “On the Uses and Disadvantage of History for Life” (Nietzsche 1874, 57–123). On Nietzsche's view, the life of an individual and a culture depend upon their ability to repeat an unhistorical moment, a kind of forgetfulness, along with their continuous development through time, and the study of history ought therefore to emphasize how each person or culture attains and repeats this moment. There is no question, then, of reaching a standpoint outside of history or of conceiving past times as stages on the way to the present. Historical repetition is not linear, but each age worthy of its designation repeats the unhistorical moment that is its own present as “new.” In this respect, Nietzsche would agree with Charles Baudelaire, who describes modernity as “the transient, the fleeting, the contingent” that is repeated in all ages (Cahoone 2003, 100), and postmodernists read Nietzsche's remarks on the eternal return accordingly"

>>10083603
She's Nietzchee's ubermadchen

>this entire thread

>>10083465
>implying identity isnt genetic
are you some kind of biology-denying statist?

>>10082383
>he doesnt know that the kali yuga is coming to a close

>>10083691
I'm loving those hairy pits.

>>10083682
nah her pronunciation is fucking disgusting
it's either "neetch", like most anglos, or the german "neetch-ya"

>>10082955
I concur

>>10083733
Do you by any chance have that picture of that Asian deleuze reading chick with the hairy pits? I need it but forgot to save it

>>10083770
Neetchi sounds cool though

>>10082215
i kekd

>>10083711
>he refuses to accept our reality is completely the result of physics equations on a old chalk board somewhere in an unremarkable university and opts for the crazy cool explanation!

>>10083689

>>10082320
If you want to go on a power trip and feel in control for once in your pathetic life go join Reddit and you can delete any comments that hurt your feelings and ban anyone who you don’t like to your heart’s content. Or, if you’re even more of a pathetic, lowly, subhuman weasel than you already seem to be, you can try to become a /leftypol/ mod.

>>10082955
This is some good tangiatelli

>>10083687
I doubt there's a credible source to this

>>10082452
t. trump shill

>>10082383
You must be a Palestinian with no identity or something. The scope has changed and the coming century will be defined by Jews embracing their collective racial identity and taking their empire back from the shitskin hordes our Roman-run institutions let through the gates. You're arguing against an inevitability.

>>10082301
>hyper-individualized
>Marxist

>>10083702
>implying there is such a thing as identity

>>10083770
what? it's Neeche, che like in che guevara

>>10082121
Get back to work Jordan!

>>10083687
>source: your anal cavity

>>10082212
That it's relative.

Which makes her look all the more dumb

>>10082241
>"I have found happiness," spake the last anon. And he blinked.

>>10085804
These people don't read shit. In the best case scenario, they actually get the books and their eyes scan over the words, then they go on Wikipedia to understand what it said. Since they still don't get it, they blindly name drop and hope it intimidates the other person. Try to get into any depth with these people and they'll just try to divert by dropping another name, etc. Sometimes they can even fool themselves that they know what they're talking about. So really, the just spout bullshit then say a random name in the hope that it somehow lends credence to what they're saying even if it always ends up being completely unrelated. They would know all this if they had read Otto Rank.

>>10085868
I'll have to look into Otto Rank.
To be fair though, when I was her age (presuming she's 19), I was just like that, particularly with Nietzsche. It took a few more years of growing up to begin to actually get Nietzsche and also that I wasn't the sophisticated intelligent that I pretentiously thought I was.
It's probably a phase many go through, if we're being honest with ourselves

>>10082023
>>10082080
I love this antifa princess.
Back to your discussion.

>>10082212
That it's a woman. No one understands her.

>>10085984
My heart...

>>10082171
>I represent Truth

Every bit as idiotic as the liberals.

>>10085911
True, we've all been there anon, and we pretty much all remain there to a greater extent than we'd like to admit.

>>10082171
Americans sure are mouthy. Such retards.

>>10082904
You don't belong on /lit/, reactionary trash.

>>10082369
>i need my race to define me so everyone else will too, in due time

>>10083804
>our reality

>>10086154
>the irony of this post

>>10086164
/lit/ is a Catholic board now. Leftists begone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvl_J_Qn5JM

>>10086171
Nothing is more foundational than race. It informs everything about who we are.

>>10085804
Pretty sure that was her point

>>10083691
smoker?
fucking dropped into a volcano

>>10082121
One of his interpretations is the genesis of the post-modern movement. Yung went a completely different dirrction

>>10087672
What a pleb

>>10082955
/pol/ has some amusing psyops at least. It's amazing how they reeee at jews pulling the strings when they're the best, out of popular web communities, at doing so.

>>10082023
when you say people who read Nietzsche
do you actually mean people who read Nietzsche and only Nietzsche instead of using him as a jumping off point and don't even understand Nietzsche to begin with and also use the concept of "Nihilism lol" as an excuse for embracing a hedonistic lifestyle and an edgy attitude?

>>10085143
cleanner man had a high view on nits, he quotes him often

>>10082023

because they're most likely plebs that become impressed with his noble affect, then attempt an imitation and fail

>>10087390
>/pol/lacks can't understand the correlation / causation distinction and estimates of traits for an individual of a certain race are purely probabilistic

>>10082023
If the other girl actually calling her out on saying to read something rather than directly stating what she means?

>>10088394
>takes one to know one

>>10082955
>who mains
Fuck off with your 'vidya' lingo

>>10082171
>YOO WANT A PAYPAY?
>NEECHEE

>>10082023
I'm pretty sure they've never read neet-sie but just mention it to seem edgy and intellectual

Who the fuck doesn't believe in truth?

>>10089468
Nietzsche hated leftists like her. He unironically would have sided with Noel

Why is Antifa targeting /lit/?

>>10089468
You don't have to read Nietzsche to understand him. He is my favourite philosopher yet Ive never actually read his work.

>>10089601
i really like the god is dead quote it really pisses off christians

>>10082446
Agreed. I have the mental temerity to visit it without becoming indoctrinated (le redpilled) but most /pol/ visitors will swallow it whole and forget how to think for themselves

>>10082023
What's funny is Nietzche said some pretty damning things about women which she would find objectionable

>>10082366
There's just one side there: the rabble. That's all you'll ever find at any of those type of events. They are all the problem.

>>10089547
Continentals post-18th century

>Mods delete my thread about Simone de Beauvoir's ass but leave this shit still standing

>>10082465
quality posting /lit/

>>10091111
How is a thread against Nietzsche against the rules?

>>10091107
Well they are stupid

>>10091111
Pretty sure it was how you worded it to sound like you were more focused on her body.

>>10082171

Well now I know why the upheaval about leftists. They're dumb as fuck in the US. I guess it's time for me to stop trying to understand American politics. I never expected much from the people of the New land, yet I'm disappointed. Nuke when?

I like the guy though, even though it's likely that I disagree with him on most things. Sounds like someone I could argue with and take away something meaningful. I say that as a liberal.

>>10091158
Pretty sure it's because there are plenty of pictures you can use to start a thread about Simone. Hint: she's not naked on most of them.

>>10091184
Tasteful nudity is fine. Starting the topic focusing on her body rather than her work isn't even if you did the whole "body of work" thing

>>10091197
Sure. I'm not a prude. It's unwarranted though. It's a board for literature, nudity will come up when it "has to". That was not the place for it.

>>10091111

>>10082121
MUH EMPRAH

>>10083556
kys your self

>>10089547
Anybody with standards
>>10091107
Heretic

>>10083770
it's ni-che
>acting like an expert on things you know nothing about
>in a /polit/ thread
pottery

Her gf is hotter

>>10091398
qt

>>10091358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrtSoASqjoE

get rekt nigger

>>10091450
but that's exactly what i wrote
there is no y sound like you wrote

>>10082121
you're conflating cause with recognition
post modernism was inevitable come nihilism
the big N proposed a way to deal with it
retards misunderstood

>>10091468
>arguing about the pronunciation of Nietzsche on a Laotian hairknitting site

As if I needed more proof that monolinguals are retarded. I mean it's not African tongueclicking you dense fucks

>>10087390
>we are defined by our most common trait
This is even mathematically incorrect.

>>10089601
B8

>>10082171
>"Why don't you read Nietzsche, then you'll see what truth actually is"

>>10093565
How is it embarassing, she is correct

>>10082446
>>10082955
>>10083778
>>10090948
>>10082503
>>10084726
>a free speech political discussion board is trash
Something like that would be quite valuable to humanity, actually.

>>10093577
>she is correct
is that a truthful statement?

>>10093682
most people criticizing /pol/ probably went there once a few years ago, back when everyone used to be unironic neo nazis and ironic neo nazis, and still see it as stormfront-lite

>>10082078
It's simpler to refer to the name of a famous author than it is to recite all of his work. People who have an interest in literature themselves just consider it a reference. Dumb-dumbs consider it "showing off".

>>10093693
It still is stormfront-lite, but now with 90% more cuckposting

>>10093693
Most people criticizing /pol/ have never spent more than 5 minutes on there and recite opinions they read elsewhere.

>>10093724
Or maybe it's people who visited there for a long time and realised almost everything on there is bullshit. Really makes me think

>>10093726
Almost everything on there is bullshit. I'm not denying that. That's the nature of freedom, the information you get isn't filtered for you. That's why you have to make your own interpretations of theories you are presented with instead of having someone do it for you and relying on their thinking instead.

Daily reminder that Nietzsche's nihilism is not the faggotry that his average reader believes today, but the exact opposite.

>>10093738
lol square

>>10093726
There's a lot of bullshit on /pol/ but I've never seen a proper refutation of their central beliefs about race, Islam, Jewish influence, multiculturalism, etc.

>>10093809
>about race

You mean lol niggers are so fucking stupid kek

/pol/ is ironically the multicultural hellhole they talk so much about

>>10082023
The girl is less dumb than the infowars cunt. Despite the cringe, there's essentially nothing wrong with what she said.

>>10093815
I mean "lol niggers are so fucking stupid" isn't wrong and is backed up via science and simply looking at black communities within the US and across the world.

/pol/ has no choice in being multicultural or not. It's the equivalent of having open borders and it shows when certain topics happen. You won't see many Mexicans or Indians posting but the moment a thread is created about them they show up in swarms and shitpost hell begins.

>Why don't you read Nietzsche and then you'll see what truth actually is.

This is actually a political mature statement. By aknowledging her Nietzscheian's heritage, she is reframing her activist struggles in a context in which the harshest reality of politics are fully internalized.
She is aware of the arbitrariness of her principles and motivations, but she is also aware of how arbitrary everyone's else beliefs are: she knows what it means to fight an idea on both theoretical and material grounds, and what terrible compromises are required to do so.

My question now is: why has she revealed her power level in public? Why has she revealed this deep secret of her, which unveils the true meaning of her political activity? Why has she been so generous?

>>10088381
>>10091534
I'm convinced you haven't read Nietzsche.
He very straightforwardly critiques truth, morality, science, tradition and religion. Foucault, Derrida, Deleuze, etc are a natural evolution of a nietzschean view of the world, that is, a deconstructive, relativist and skeptical, epistemologically pessimistic view of the world.

>Yung
Do you mean Jung or are you actually talking about Yung Lean?

>>10093838
this except unironically

>>10093809
There's not much to refute,
>"if jews are 2% percent of the population then why are they so overepresented blah blah"
Because of historical reasons leading to them having family lineage owning gold and such as well as their seclusive (i guess you would say) eugenics leading to the average jew having high IQ
>race realism
The most common argument is sociological conditions however ive seen some research recently that has made me doubt that theory and i dont really care about the topic seeing as im not from a country with a high black population so i havent looked into much contrary research. Overall though the people on /pol/ have too much of a confirmation bias on the topic to come to a legitimate conclusion
>life was great under nazi germany for the native population and the jews
This has been thoroughly refuted hundreds of times. I remember one guy that would come into a lot of threads and refute all the 'holohoax' claims

>>10093819
lol dude she probably read his "facts are interpretations" quote somewhere and uses it whenever a resort to skepticism is convenient
you shouldn't take nietzsche's epistemology seriously anyways

>>10082023
I mean the context where she references Nietzsche is actually fairly reasonable. Media dude says that he represents "the truth". She's probably thinking about what he says about secular thinkers and their religious attitude to truth in Geneology of Morals

>>10093917
IW apologists will actually think that this is an argument.

>>10093936
i don't care about infowars at all. just stop thinking with your dick and realize that the fact that she's cute doesn't mean she isn't yet another braindead tumblerina

>>10093944
You are assuming that based on what? On a coherent comment that made sense in that context? By the fact that she is a young, cute girl?
Just admit that your critique has no foundation whatsoever but stereotypes you've read on the internet.

>>10093949
>"just read nietchiiii"
>coherent argument

and no, besides the obvious redflags on that video there's even more evidence to support that claim on her (now gone) social media

>>10093957
>>coherent argument
An IW reporter was claiming to hold the "truth" in this debate. Mentioning Nietzsche is a coherent argument, for she is signaling that she does not find his epistemological grounding stable enough for him to assume that his thoughts actually refer to facts and truth. Wether you like it or not, this is a coherent argument.

>besides the obvious redflags on that video there's even more evidence to support that claim on her (now gone) social media
So your critique was based on her doxxed infos? My bad, I thought you were actually trying to address her ideas. I guess I'm expecting too much from il/lit/erates.

>>10093966
>nietchiii says there are no facts, you nazi xD

>>10093917
>I'll just presume she didn't really read it instead of taking her statements at face value
>... because... she's a woman?
I see no reason to assume she's dumb, or fake, or trying to seem more intellectual than she is. She might've acted hysterical but the situation justifies it; I wouldn't be in the mood to explain the obvious to a real-life shitposter either.

>you shouldn't take nietzsche's epistemology seriously anyways
If you don't take Nietzsche's philosophy in its whole, you don't take it at all.

>>10093987
yeah anon, i'm really just a mysoginist not someone make an assessment out of her blatant displays of teenager tumblr-imbued idpol bullshit

>If you don't take Nietzsche's philosophy in its whole, you don't take it at all.
>one of the least systematic thinkers in modern philosophy that also notably contradicted himself all the time needs to be taken in its whole

>>10094009
>i'm really just a mysoginist not someone make an assessment out of her blatant displays of teenager tumblr-imbued idpol bullshit
Again, these are just stereotypes, which are not even related to the situation at hand.
Again, her sentence made sense, was coherent and was an actual rebuttal to the claim that was made a few seconds before these shots were taken.
>>one of the least systematic thinkers in modern philosophy that also notably contradicted himself all the time needs to be taken in its whole
Again, the stereotype overrides reality: the made up sentences you have memorized about Nietzsche are apparently more important than his actual works.
He has literally never contraddicted his epistemology: from Untimely Questions to Will to Power Nietzsche never accepted any truth statement, nor he accepted any evidence for the existence of metaphysics (although he talked a lot about the effects that these constructs have on people). Every single one of his works are built on these premises, no exception, and you should also know that what he built upon these foundations was regarded by Nietzsche himself as mere "moralizing", which in Nietzscheian's philosophy has extreme epistemological consequences.

>>10094009
Try to explain Nietzsche's metaphysics, while doing justice to it and not butchering it, without also dipping into his aesthetics, epistemology and ethics. Do this with every aspect of his work, they're all very dependent on each other. Even The Birth of Tragedy is only explored to its fullest if you retroactively apply the ideas Nietzsche would later develop.

The minutia of his thinking aren't always as essential, but the fundamentals of his epistemology are at the core of his whole method. If you don't keep in mind his critique of truth, the whole thing falls apart.

>>10082023

Logical world denying.

>>10082023
I hate the way this two think but that moment and the fact that they are so cute makes me like them. Id watch a series or a cartoon about them.

>>10091398
I want to marry and get early and unfairly divorced by her

>>10091398
Sauce?

This whole thing demonstrates how /pol/ is only concerned with aesthetics. If they were fat, with dyed hair and/or hairy armpits, there would be nothing but unrelenting hate towards them, but since they are cute and pretty, they're endearing.

>>10094120
>This whole thing demonstrates how virgin plebs are only concerned with aesthetics


fixed

>>10094120
Is this your last resort, after all of your prejudices have been debunked? What about making an actual argument?

>>10094137
There is no difference

>>10094031
>Nietzsche's metaphysics
To call anything in his work a metaphysics itself is butchering it.

>>10082446
people like this browse this site
people like this share the same boards with us

>>10091398
I want to cum on her face and kiss her afterwards and get a bit of cum on my face too

>>10082171
filthy baizuo

>>10091398
>tfw I didn't care about her originally but now I unironically agree

>>10091180
People are dumb everywhere. Stop pretending you are better than Americans.

>>10091779
You don't have to read something to understand it when its available online on second hand sources

>>10083699
welcome to lit newfriend

>>10088546
>being this embarrassingly scientifically illiterate
You forgot to use "more variation within than between" too.

>>10082171
I like how females look at each for social approval when confronting views that don't jive with theirs.

>>10083699

>>10096800
You are here for social approval.

>>10082078
Its actually called "name dropping". People who can't argue points but just name drop in an attempt to hand wave away questions etc.

>>10096950

>>10096978
Sharing your opinion with people online is a social activity. Would you post on an image board that was just you?

>>10082023
Can someone refute what the InfoWars said?
Im not even memeing...

>>10096990
you really need someone to tell you how drumpft is a racist? like, open a newspaper?

>>10093714
some author's name is completely irrelevant, explain your view and perspective (even if in an oversimplified way) or fuck off

>>10096982
Self-validation is not the only use of society.

>>10097010
Never even said that. Its one of the most important things for people none the less

>>10096982
Communication isnt only for approval, you are a reductionist.

>>10097027
For you, maybe. Keep projecting

"The falseness of an opinion is not for us any objection to it: it is here, perhaps, that our new language sounds so strangely."

Her statement makes perfect sense, only the brainlets mock it.

>>10093966
>>10093838
There are Truths, some are natural, some are man made. There is also ignorance, and belief, uncertainty.

People have different ways, means, methods of valuing Truths, and there ways, means, methods of grappling with theirs and others awareness of Truths and ignorance's, and their valuing of such.

One of the Truths (and popular notions) Nietzsche believed he was highlighting as 'the will to power'.

What people know and think they know can have a relation to power.

Power, will to power, can have a relation to what people know and think they know. Power can have the will to influence what people think is the Truth.

Is it possible the frame of her statement was almost merely a being cautious/suspicious of power and its potential powerful effect on the average individual and therefore masses perceptions and relations to potential Truths and Ignorance's and their valuing?

>>10097001
how is he racist?

>>10097057
>"The falseness of an opinion is not for us any objection to it: it is here, perhaps, that our new language sounds so strangely."

What a weird statement. What is an example of a false opinion?

"My opinion is that this tree is 5 feet tall (it is really 25)." "I do not object to your opinion"

Is his statement inviting nonsense and delusion into the world? For the orientations of inner minds to be inconsistent with provable facts, for this to simply be ok?

Now in relation to 'her statement makes perfect sense', that would come down to arguments attempting to prove that your quoted nietszhe statement is the Truth (that would be seen to be really what is, after reading him).

>>10097056
Keep posting on a social imageboard pretending it doesn't matter to you

>>10097105
Think about it for longer than 5 seconds and you'll understand it .

>>10097066
his real estate company has been sued twice for discrimination against black applicants, he used to get his managers to order all the black card dealers off the floor when he would visit his casinos and one of the presidents of his hotel wrote in the 90's that trump believed that laziness is just an inherent trait of black people and that he didn't want his black employees to count his money. that's just a couple off the top of my head but i remember he also tweeted out one of those fake /pol/ images about 81% of homicides done to white people are committed by blacks and only 16% are by white people which is wildly inaccurate and the 'crime statistics bureau - san francisco' doesnt even exist. the actual statistic is the other way around. 81% of homicides to white people are done by white people and 16% by black people, it makes me wonder what he browses on the internet desu

>>10097148
all I can get from it is he does not care how many people in the world believe provably wrong things. Or that if someone lies to themself and others he will not necessarily object to that

>>10082303
>Fulfillment means constantly raising your own expectations and becoming something better than you were earlier and thereby advancing yourself and all of humanity.
a more complicated skinnerbox.

>>10087390
Only for people who don't know what they are

>>10093809
>their central beliefs about race
They have a massive blind spot to the shortcomings of their charts.
Apparently when it comes to blacks they believe IQ is the measure of human worth, but the second you point out Jews and Asians have a higher IQ than whites they jump to some unquantified assertions about "creativity" or "degeneracy".

>>10087390
What defines race? Skin colour?

>>10093693
I would say /pol/ has become less ironic if anything. I don't visit it much anymore though so I could be wrong

>>10097061
>Nietzsche believed he was highlighting as 'the will to power'.

Brainlet detected. Nietzsche referred to his talks about the Will to Power and other similar concepts as "moralizing". To be a Nietzscheian you do not have to believe in the Will to Power, in the Ubermensch, in the Eternal Recurrence and so on.
>Is it possible the frame of her statement was almost merely a being cautious/suspicious of power and its potential powerful effect on the average individual and therefore masses perceptions and relations to potential Truths and Ignorance's and their valuing?
A IW guy starts shouting that what he is saying is the truth. Such a notion of truth is so far from what she is willing to refer as such that she gives him an hint: read Nietzsche and you'll know what truth is, which means: you are just using the word "truth" to promote an idea you like, but the usage of said word does not refer in any sensible way to any objective truth, and if you think so you are a fool who has not thought for not even a moment about his own experience and perception and their limits.

>>10097105
Here's the untermensch.

>>10097198
He does accout for truth-values because he thinks that no one can really achieve any such understanding. As such, if you were to say something in which you believe blindly, he would have thought that you were still following his prescriptions (you are trying to promote as true something of which you barely know anything: the most evident offenders in this case would be metaphysicians and theologians).

>>10087390
Being you must be painful.

>>10098150
At this point I'm starting to believe that people saying that /pol/ is still ironic in its nature are just part of some psyops. /pol/posters are as radical as you can get on 4chan. Try discussing any point that deviates from their views and then come back and tell me if they were ironic. Some of them certainly were, the majority isn't: what matters is that both ironic posters and unironic posters spout the same, exact propaganda, which oeads to the same exact ideological nests.

t. I have browsed it everyday for at least 7 years now

>>10094162
virgin plebs \not\subseteq /pol/

>>10082955
This

Post the august archive

>>10098154
>"The falseness of an opinion is not for us any objection to it"

What again do you think he means by that? I explained what I thought he meant in two or so examples; a more specific example regarding a tree, and a more general example regarding the concept of lying to oneself and others (considering 'a false opinion' to be a lie, if a false opinion is recognized as a false opinion, but believed as true, this is a lie; the idea of 'a lie' is if true = 1 and false = 2, to say 2 is true. The falseness of an opinion to him is not an objection of that opinion.)

Would have been nice I guess if he gave some examples of that and embellished more precisely what he meant.


"read Nietzsche and you'll know what truth is"

So you are assuming by this she meant: If you read Nietzshe you will see that Nietzshe believes humans cannot know Truth (so this gets into the truth is subjective only, or most of it, or some of it is, important parts of it is): so that is why she must protest, because politics is a fight for the application and construction and maintenance of certain potential t/Truths?

Which I guess is the same as and the same reason I brought up the concept of will to power, in relation of the will to power to construct and maintain potential t/Truths.

>>10098161
On average there are over 1,000 threads posted on /pol/ everyday.

Who knows how many visitors. Of what various levels of awareness, who say what they say for what various level of reasons, with what various levels of certainty of truth when they at least believe they are attempting to speak it.

>>10082171
i like her friend better

>>10082171
>Women rule the world
Fucking kek, that guy recording is so embarrasing.
Fucking americans, I'm really loving my shitty country right now.

>>10099796
>Fucking americans
Stop trying to divide whites if you don't want to be mistaken for a jew.

>>10082446

>>10093724
>you just don't understand
Kek, this is always /pols response to anyone who doesn't buy into their bullshit.
>if you just educated yourself like I have, you would inevitably agree with me! It is the ONLY acceptable conclusion.
Groupthink 101.

>>10099812
Mistake me all you want, I couldn't care less. The right in my country can be stupid but at least is not Pepe the frog stupid. And I'm really glad that my country is far from the USA, even when your disease runs worldwide.
Your fucking country handholds with the jews so don't get me started on that.

>>10099818
I'm not pol and think he's absolutely right, which is why the response 90% of the time is "go back to pol."

>>10099821
Pathetic. And your country is?

>>10099832
How would you ever know how much time people have spent there? It's an insane hypothetical digression tactic that could never be supported or falsified.
>u don't know
Is not a fucking argument. People HAVE gone there, it's literally one click away, not a fucking scary trek across the dangerous mountains like some people seem to want to pretend it is.

>>10099839
His said they recite opinions from elsewhere, like the lame "go back to pol" usual response, because they do. They rarely engage with the content and are often emotional hothead spergs like you who probably can't keep a concept in your head for 10 minutes.

>>10082171
When thou goest to woman, take thy whip.

How is Nietzsche supposed to be pronounced?

>>10099968
Naytsch

>>10099974
I don't think the "e" is silent.
/lit/'s just being pretentious again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVG5DuMlgbM

>>10099968
knee che

>>10099984
I'm just fucking with you.

Anyone that degrades themself enough to actually go to a protest is by default a retard. Talk about letting memes rule your life.

>>10099821
>I'm a defenseless child
>*Stabs police officer*

>>10094844
>baizuo
nice. also, checked

>>10099968
nē (as in knee) chŭ (as in the beginning of chug)

>>10082171
why would anyone watch this shit for pleasure? the background noise, the mindless yelling over each other, the shrill voices of women and marble mouthed men... i feel like i gained tinnitus, then cured it just by closing the video.

>>10099852
The reason "go back to pol" is a thing has nothing to do with not being ABLE to engage with the topics, it's that they usually have ZERO relavance to literature, hence GO TO THE BOARD DEDICATED TO THAT TOPIC, same with MLP or anime shit. How hard is that to fucking understand?

>>10100090
to break the conditioning

Please let this thread die.

>>10091180
>I say that as a liberal
So you say that as an idiot then, glad you just came right out and said it.

>>10082360
>"gee I sure love taking brown dick in my ass!"

>>10100105
Except you never, ever, *ever* reply with a "go back to /pol/" in those communist threads, despite them being 100% off-topic. I wonder why?

>>10082171
donald trump is a bad president because he has orange hair and his tie is too big

>>10083770
donald trump is a bad president because his hairdo is ugly

>>10082955
>4chan
>relief from group-think
IT"S PRONOUNCED KNEE-CHUH, DESU. #tippitytopkek

>>10101914
Do you really wonder or is that rhetorical?

>>10099968
>>10099974
>>10093682
>you don't have to wear a mask
wew, lad. this anon, amirite? pretty kek, desu

>>10082171
if only she was sane..

>>10082171
>>10102159
She's cuter with the beanie, desu.

>>10082171
>>10102244
who is this bitch?

>>10102249
My girlfriend.

>>10102261
The whiter girl is prettier to me tho. Her laugh is cute too.

>>10082171
I know they're acting retarded, but if you honestly think Trump is an angel, you got problems of your own.

>>10102558
BUT HE'S REPRESENTING TRUTH!
I unironically believe the girls blew the fuck out of the guy recording.

>>10101966
what did he mean by this...

a bit late but...

>>10102584
No shit, you're stupid.

>>10102261

>>10102812
None of that even negates what she said though.

Why is she so perfect guys?

>>10091398
>>10082171
how did you get these pics?

>>10103611
Shes a BRAPPER, long windy ones and merry little cracks gushing from her hole

>>10103636
how do you that much about her, friend?
I think you are misjudging someone you do not know

>>10102512
Shes asian

>>10103654

Looks like hapa or Slav.

>>10103703
trouble

>>10091087
These are the people defining the culture in our society. Once you understand that you'll realize how fucked we are

>>10082121
it's no joke! roughly speaking

>>10103725
Yeah. They're cuties.

>>10082171
Do people honestly believe Trump isn't racist?

>>10103764

Even if he was, why should we care?

>>10103773
>Even if he was

How are you this naive? I'm racist. That's not hard to declare. I'm racist. See I did it again. I'm not a neo nazi nor do I support trump but I've noticed I think some pretty racist shit from time to time and I'm wise enough to know it bleeds into my actions.

>why should we care

My point exactly. The whole fucking video is supposed to be

>hurrrr look at these triggered idiot libtards

Meanwhile the guy making the video is obviously triggered and can't tell that Trump is a racist.

>>10103703
>>10103725
>>10103757
>women with lips anything but plump

Nope!

>>10103779

These videos are for normalfag consumption. IIRC racism is a bannable offense on r/TheDonald

>>10103789
Finally an answer that makes sense.

>>10103779
>I've noticed I think some pretty racist shit from time to time and I'm wise enough to know it bleeds into my actions.
Hello fellow white people!

Imagine having your half-assed beliefs be the focus of an anonymous discussion online that you'd never know existed and only happened because you were cute and had a vagina.

>>10103980
There's always warosu.

>>10093693
All the people whinging about /pol/ never even visited the board, they just heard about the scary boogeyman and keep repeating opinions of others who made their opinions on preconceived notions

>>10104842
ahahahahahahahahahha

>>10096551
I am literally a stemsperg, I could not be less scientifically illiterate. Your post is retarded and clearly misses the point of my post anyway. Please never post again

>>10104842
Literally the same thing as 'DA JOOOSS"