/lit/ - Literature

1st for Shallan’’s sweaty safehand

Anybody know of some books like The first law series? I read it couple of weeks ago (disappointing ending desu) and want to read more like it. Prefer dark gritty scifi/fantasy with violence eg; berserk, first law series etc. Nothing over the top pls

>>10279304
Shallan's safehand is pure and dry and smells like baby powder.
Radiant is going to be fingerblasting Adolin with her safehand every night because she's kinky like that

Damn I had to check the last link for the dragonriders of pern. I suppose dying before you finish the series bugs people anyhow

>>10279208
Books with huge swords like OP's pic related?

I am low brow and I really enjoy reading Jack Vance, whenever I come back from working wherever the temp agency sends me for min wage (usually 12 hour shifts) I fire up my kindle and read a Jack Vance novel, I stare at the calming watery grey sky outside my window every few pages so I'm in the best mindset to continue and fully appreciate the detailed interactions between characters and I hope I never tire of his fascinatingly wacky descriptions of raiments and humanoid civilisations.
Shaluke the swimmer is best girl, reading the hilarious travels of Rhialto in Faders Waft especially brought warmth to my cold bones and creaking joints after a day of inhaling second hand smoke, listening to my coworkers asking to borrow money from me still smelling of alcohol and cigarettes, then going home when its dark and cold.
Nothing makes a day of warehouse work or caregiving for a building full of a dozen mentally ill people usually cleaning up after them because half of them are incontinent and being hit and screamed at by the rest than a cracking good Jack Vance novel. All my problems instantly fade away when I read the incredibly well crafted, educated dialogue always with irony woven in for my absolute merriment.

Why read anything else when you can sit peacefully with a Jack Vance novel in hand and a beautiful sky above your head?

Why can't I read genre fiction anymore.
This year I've read all the Dart tower series and the first two Dunes novel.
There were glaring flaws in all of them that really put me off

>>10279443
>There were glaring flaws in all of them that really put me off
For example?

>>10279443
Read New Sun, only good genre fiction out there

>>10279529
In the dark tower? Deus ex machina and several plot that goes nowhere (mordere cough cough)

In Dune? Paul being a fucking Mary Sue for one.

In both novels? Charachter acting like they are playing 64D chess when, in reality, the whole plot get solved by incredible dumb actions.
Oh, this desert savages pay us to not look at what they're doing to the planet? Fair enough, it's not like this planet is the whole things that holds the universe together, who gives a shit

Oh, we're dealing with mercenaries that are actively trying to fuck us? I guess we will just sleep it trough, don't need to make guard even tho we're the best gunslinger kids that have ever existed

And a lot more, to be fair.
Like Feyd Ruatha being made into a pussy cheater who had to trick a normal Atreides foot soldier to beat him in the pit, while Herbert's also tries to pass him as a worthy rival's to Paul's charachter

>>10278848
>>10279208
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>>10279385
Malazan

>>10279568

Who are some right wing sci fi or fantasy authors? Bonus points if they’re modern.
Inb4 Larry Correia and Vox Day

>>10279208
>grown adult males read this man's work

>>10279385
>>10280730
D R A G N I P U R

Trying to find Peter F Hamilton's Manhattan in Reverse, anyone have it to hand? B-OK dot org has failed me.

>>10281117

I need more commonwealth saga in my life

>>10281133
The sex is a little much but it’s some hard sci fi. I’ve only read Pandora’s star and it’s sequel. Are the others good?

>>10281252

The void trilogy takes place 1000 years after the first two books. Most of the characters still exist. The story line is very different and has large elements of fantasy. Nice to see how technology has advanced. Remember the world with the giant wild life? They reverse engineer the technology which helps humanity reach post scarcity. Definitely worth a read. First one is called The Dreaming Void.

Blindsight

>>10281108
>implying we care what whores think

>>10279871
We will use this when the other thread dies.

Should I read the Malazan Book of the Fallen first, and then the other Malazan books, or the 3 prequels first, or what?

anyone have the galactic mage audiobooks as ddl?
the torrents on ABB all dont have any seeds.

>>10285400
The answer to EVERY audiobook question is always ABB, Mobilism or Myanonamouse. Get yourself a myanonamouse account, or don't listen to audiobooks.

>>10286008
ABB doesnt have seeds. mobilism only has the ebooks. myanonymouse has been down for the past 3 days for me.

>>10286022
Strange, it was up for me a few hours ago but it's definitely down now

Your /sffg/ shit will never get published

>>10286183
I only write fanfic so there is no such thing as failure

>>10284881
yes

Immigration imminent
>>10278848
>>10278848

>>10286183
>negativity

Probably for the best.

>tfw every attempt at writing a novel, web or otherwise ends up staring a prominent breast feeding scene

>>10286183
>implying I can't just saunter up to kdp.amazon.com and get it published in a minute and a half

any setting where vampires are just were-bats?

>>10286470
isnt there a discworld books where bats pretend to be humans by becomming "vampires".
its been a long time, might not even been discworld.

Is there any SFF where the major characters are all sweet, feminine girls, males are almost entirely absent, stakes are low or nonexistent, and the focus is on the day-to-day?

>>10281359
Wait how did they achieve post scarcity? I don't remember that part of the books at all.

>had Sanderson's book since release day Tuesday
>haven't even reached quarter way
I'm not going to be able to meme with you guys will I?

>>10286511
There's literally ten times more anime than Stormlight Archive.

>>10286591
Yes but I want it to encroach on Western genre publishing.

OFFICIAL STORMLIGHT WAIFU RANKING CHART

God-Defying Tier
>Jasnah Kholin

Pious And Holy Tier
>Pai
>Dalinar

High Tier
>Mayalaran
>Sylphrena
>Sja-Anat
>Radiant (Shallan)
>Eshonai

Why
>Rysn
>Navani
>Lift (is 10)

Shit Taste
>Venli
>Veil (Shallan)

Incredibly Lewd
>Shallan (Shallan)

>tfw you accidentally wipe your ass with your safe hand

>>10286741
I think Rysn is a really cute character, and life just gave her a bad turn.

Sanderson posting isn't going away anytime soon, is it?

>>10286741
>Navani
You don't like milfs?

>>10286741
What about the cute ardent girl that wanted to ride Kaladin's dick?

why is Odium such a nice guy? he's a sweet old man who gives dalinar a drink and offers to take away his pain :')

>>10286741
>my waifu is cultivation
where do I fit in?

>>10286764
I trust in Hoid. If he off all people is scared shitless of Odium, I'll trust he has good reason too.

Is the sharp shiny yellow magical dagger given to /ourguy/ by a kind old man a hemalurgic spike or awakened?

>>10286775
I thought they were friends before Adonalsium got shanked and then Rayse cucked him or something

They were friends at some point at least but Hoid is now saying Rayse was an asshole before Ascending

>>10286776
Possibly a Dawnshard, or maybe a piece of Rayseium

>>10286781
Hoid was offered a Shard post-shattering but he turned it down. This implies an association with the 16 who shattered Adonalsium, and therefore a top-tier power level. And he is terrified of one specific individual holding the power of "God's own divine hatred."
If he's scared, he knows something we don't.

*consigns you and your 9 friends to thousands of years of torture by aliens*

Are the Fused/voidspren legitimately using surgebinding somehow or did Odium pirate the sourcecode and produce his own version of the magic system?

>ywn have Hoid Shardpilling you on a comfy week long walk in the wilderness
Why live lads?

Why is Nightblood so absurdly overpowered? It's able to screw up basically anything Invested with no effort but it only took 1000 Breaths to create, compared to the God King who has 50000 but is nowhere near 50x that strong

>>10286858
Because it runs on external investiture to power itself, it doesn't need any itself. That mixed with the vague Awakening command makes a dangerous combination.

>tfw you perform a drawing on the pink light produced by sticking a flash light up a homeless womans anus


>>10286858
What?

>>10286741
Lift is probably gonna jump all over Gawx once she comes to terms with being past puberty. She cant stop talking about dicks and butts and he's the only dude her age around.

>>10286870
Nightblood could irreversibly remove all magic from the universe, given enough time. He's fucking insane.

>>10286820
Abandon one friend to 4500 years of torture because you wussed out.

>>10286877
Hemalurgy is similar, and Sanderson has said that will become center-stage during the end game across the Cosmere.

>>10286879
>everything in this image except the face is how I imagined it
I didn't think Jezrien would look this fat tbqh, he looks like Henry VIII here

When it comes to Star Wars novels, why is the Thrawn trilogy recommended so highly above all others? Surely there must be other good ones.
Tell me about your favorites and why you like them.

>>10286882
I don't think he looks fat. His face is maybe kind of round, but his body implies he's just thick cause of muscle.

I imagine Windrunners would be more lean and have swimmer bodies, but Rock's one so obviously that isn't a criteria.

The only herald that looks kinda fat is Vedel and that's kind of just because she looks matronly and middle aged, out of the hourglass figure part of her life, and had loose robes.

>Individual points of view from soldiers in the army
>Extended city infiltration
>Main characters spend half the book stuck in a warren
If it wasn't for all the ANIME at the end I could swear that Oathbringer was secretly a Malazan book.

>>10286893
Zahn's writing is on the Asimov/Sanderson tier plain but he can spin out a darn good yarn and tend to have Doyle elements. It definitely helps that Thrawn and Pellaeon (also Car'das and Eli) are likeable people.

I don't generally read SW novels but Thrawn is the kind of archetype that I like in a character - strategic, honourable and calculating.

There's a kind of morality that Zahn introduces to the SW universe that doesn't exist in the movies or in whatever the fuck Rebels is supposed to be.

I tried Luceno's stuff and he is basically a third rate worldbuilder who writes characters autistically so I've decided not to read any SW stories that aren't written Zahn, unless I'm really out of books.

>>10286933
*
tends
>>10286908
If he wanted to write a proper extended city infiltration then Kaladin would have to exceed the number of chapters allocated to him.

>>10286470
Witcher . . .

>A white and blonde girl dressed up as a black girl. She cover herself with a pigment to become "black"

Seriously, I love Heinlein.

>>10286933
>luuke

Fuck off

>>10287031
Zahn names clones like I name files.

>>10287037
New Luke (7)

Am I a brainlet because I'm not even remotely interested in figuring out time travel stories involving paradox or self-consistent single timelines? The only way time travel makes sense to me is with infinite universes/timelines.

I'm hoping someone can help me out here. So, every once and a while I'll remember a description of a book my dad was reading when I was a kid. Here is all I can remember:
1. science fiction
2. There was a bridge that was built between two planets. I think humans inhabited one planet and aliens the other.
3. There was a romance, they lived on the separate planets.

I don't really have any interest in reading it, but I haven't been able to find info on this book after years of looking and it's driving me crazy.

>>10287189
Are you just not interested or do you straight up not understand them at all?

>>10287189
No, time travel doesn't work well for written literature without it becoming obnoxious, you can only mention references to the music playing from a walkman/boombox/record player so many times.

>>10287210
I guess those versions of time travel are just beyond my suspension of disbelief. What chain of causality would entail your present self disappearing after killing an ancestor? What exactly causes the body that exists in that moment to vanish from existence? Then I see the author going down that line of thought, so in order to contrive a single timeline, they make the past/future self-consistent But what would actually disallow the time traveler from affecting their past self? Only the arbitrary external rule that the past must remain the same

>>10287220
It works in All You Zombies, The Time Machine and Timeline.
>you can only mention references to the music playing from a walkman/boombox/record player so many times.
That's... really specific. I think you just don't like shitty time travel.

>>10287310
The string of fate being severed, the anomaly being crushed out of existence by the river of time around it.

>>10287341

That's not an explanation. It's equivalent to "because I said so".

>>10287344
Yes it is, you just can't think in terms of singilar time lines.

It might be a video editing/ coding thing for me though, when you go back in an editor and cut something it just stops existing from that point onwards, there's no "corpse" or alternate time line/ multiverse.

Ditto for end commands.

The only goo timetravel is internally consistent loops. None of this "change the past" shit, the past was ALREADY changed before you ever went back to change it. That's the least complicated, most intuitive variant, it it is STILL incredibly easy to build horrifically complicated tangled webs of causality and paradoxes.

>>10286902
>Americans call this fat

>>10287005
You should read farnham's freehold.

>I'll start an apocalypse and wipe out 99% of humanity for muh church
What did gavilar mean by this?

>>10287208
Go to the goodreads forums. Somebody read it there.

>>10287208
That sounds really familiar.

>>10286577
It's better to read it like that anyway, and why not, just don't come here before you've finished to get spoiled.

>From what I understand, [your mother] spent the seven months she was with child entertaining each and every military man she could find, in hopes that something of them would stick to you.

wew when did Brandon get so lewd

>>10287497
>yfw she probably had to take every load in her mouth because it's the only way that works after a womans pregnant.

Her testosterone much have been off the charts too.

>>10287375
>when you go back in an editor and cut something it just stops existing

That analogy is flawed. The thing doing the cutting (you / the editing tool) is not what you are cutting out. What you describe is like someone going to the past and killing someone else.

If you want a programming analogy, here's what I'm coming up with off the top of my head. Lets say you are programming with an interactive language like lisp or python. You save an early environment containing a function which you later use (parent) while implementing a more complex function (child). Later you decide to re-visit that old environment, but you paste your new complex function into that old environment (time travel). While in the old environment, you delete the parent function. Here's the sticking point, if the timetraveled function includes its own dependencies, it still works in the old environment, if dependencies are not included, it tries to reference the parent function that was deleted and no longer works.

My thing is, I don't see how a timetraveled person would have "dependencies". That's something you would need to explain without some nonsense woo-woo about "the string of fate" or "the river of time".

>>10287506
w-what?

>>10284881
1-10 then prequel trilogy

*blocks your path*

About halfway through oathbringer, anybody else have this printing error?
My book goes to page 480, then 413-448, then 513 the next page, missing 480-513 entirely.
Not sure if they got shuffled later into the book or what, but this is a hilarious oversight if this happened more than once

I have a copy of pic related.

What's a good place to quickly upload a 120 mb PDF?

>>10287571
Mega.nz

>>10287559
I haven't heard anything. Would you like a copy of the ebook so you can read the missing chunk?

Read Mistborn - Final Empire aka babbies first high fantasy.

The plot is cool, albeit character depth is severely lacking. Head that the follow up novel overcompensates for this by focussing psychology on too much.

Is Herdazian Her-dahz-ian or Her-daze-ian?

>>10287713
I read it Her-daze-ian

>>10287531
>stick to you
>sperm is sticky
She had loads of cum dumped in her cunny and plugged her hole. So when the birth happened all the sperm would stick to the child during delivery.

So the Alethi are supposed to be vaguely Asian, right? So do the Shin have actually big round eyes compared to actual people, or are they just round compared to everyone else?

>>10286908
but Malazan has anime endings too

>>10287522
I wish I knew to code. But the few times(1hr total) I tried I wasn't autistic enough to stick with it.

>>10287571
Why did logan make it a pdf? Does he still lurk here? Haven't seen him shill since last year.

>>10287725
>It's a little more complicated than I might have made it seem. Alethkar natives other than the Shin have the epicanthic fold, but the Alethi wouldn't look strictly Asian to you--they'd look like a race that you can't define, as we don't have them on earth. I use half-Asian/half-arab or half-asian/half-Polynesian models as my guide some of the time, but Alethi are going to have a tanner skin than some of those.

>Some Horneaters might look Caucasian to you--but then, most will not. They'll seem like something alien, and not all of them have light skin; they tend to walk a spectrum between pale and coppery. Reshi and Herdazians will look closest to something like an indigenous Bolivian.

>Shin would look the closest to Caucasian to you, but again, they're not an Earth ethnicity. So you might not be able to place them either.

t. Brandon

>>10287725
Their big round eyes are anime eyes.

>>10287742
God I love worldbuilding autism so much.
Who else is like this?

>>10287742
>t. Brandon
y-you lurk here Brandon?
is it true that you fucked Jordan's widow?

Would getting a boner attract sexspren or the equivalent on Roshar? Would make life really hard around women for some people

>She ended up sprawled on the floor, skirts up about her waist—and she wasn’t even wearing the leggings today. Her safehand bulged out from between the sleeve buttons, poking into the open right in front of not just the king, but Kaladin and Adolin.

l-lewd

>>10287571
>>10287614
>>10287738
Does this work?

https://mega.nz/#!Q24CUJDC!oiPtexku4WpwUqPUUwJQmPs8fvzR1oZ0AIb3DhJsGFU

Who thinks Kaladin will have shardplate first? One that doesn't need stormlight?
My understanding. Just like after a certain oath Kaladin had sub minion radiants, sly will have sub minion spren. Those sub spren will get a semblance of cohesion from syl and form kaladin's plate. When not in use they will follow syl like baby ducklings. Remember she talked about being a mother, it's her instincts returning

All of Sanderson's book when? I will not be alive in 30 years, I don't even plan to live out 5 more years.

>>10287531
>>10287722
Actually what I meant was generic chimera-ism.

Where a woman absorbs stem cells from previous male pregnancies and sex partners, changing her future off spring.

Also unlike with men sexual intercourse actually raises testosterone levels for women, thought to have an effect on fetuses similar to dosages of HGH given to children with petuitory gland issues (like that tall as fuck Japanese basketball player).

Apparently she just doused her baby in cum though.

>>10287758
It's a quote you idiot.

>>10287622
More just curious if anyone else had that error

Why does Jasnah hate Amaram and men so much? Was she raped in the past?

>>10287806
I think you're right. Kal almost swore his Four Ideal, and the Skybreaker training arc established that Fifth Ideals are rare, so it probably doesn't come with that one.

>>10287825
>Rape does exist in the world, but using it as a plot point in someone's backstory is often problematic, and in this case I think it's highly unlikely.
From Peter Ahlstrom, so probably not. They might've almost Rosemary Kennedy'd her.

Fucking Kaladin a cuck. WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO ESCAPE YOU TAKE IT. YOU DON'T HOVER AROUND LOOKING TO BE CAPTURED.

>>10286741
>no Lyn
>no Malata
>no Aesudan
>no Skar's spren
>no Nightwatcher
>no Noura
>no Rock's wife
>no Rock's daughter
>no Janala
>Jasnah that high
>Rysn that low
how could one man be so wrong?

>>10287864
would Moash hatefuck Aesudan?
:thinking:

>>10287751
Me

>reading oathbringer
>it's a shallan chapter
Not as grating as the first two books. It it because we are viewing her schizophrenia?

>>10287889
Stockholm syndrome.

>>10287889
More lewds make her chapters readable
>shallan strips off in the street
>shallan strips in front of main cast
>shallan almost gets pulled into a bedroom for a hookup during an orgy
>shallan in an orgy

>it's a "PSA about how firemoss will turn you into a junkie" episode

>>10287926
Go to bed, Teft

>>10287926
>oh i think i'll just do a little firemoss tonight, it never hurt nobody right?
THINK AGAIN, punk. Firemoss has been shown scientifically to be a gateway drug to Voidbinding.

>>10286877
>>10286858
The vast majority of the breath system doesn't actually cost investiture, it either can be taken back, or permanently stays in the awakended object. Nightblood (and returned sacrificial healing) permanently consume investiture and therefore are much more powerful

So did Hoid send his letter to multiple factions and we just specifically saw the one to Frost? That's what seems to make sense. Frost, the Ire(?), Sazed

>>10287947
Autonomy and maybe Endowment for the other two writers

>>10287952
How do you figure that?
Writer 2 mentioned being part of a group, a faction. And 'us'. I don't see a Shard really using that type of terminology.
Writer 3 mentioned becoming a deity, as if it were a recent thing. Endowment has been around a while. Also reeks of Sazed in its writing to begin with.

>>10287961
Writer one being Endowment is through process of elimination, writer two is autistic about multiple personalities/avatars which is a Bavadin/Autonomy thing and writer three is definitely Sazed from the writing style (I think) and events mentioned

>>10287983
>Bavadin has several male personas, and has often appeared as male for one purpose or another, so it's not that much of an issue. She has more female personas, but some of the male ones are quite popular.

>This won't be relevant for a long while, but as a service to the community, let me say this: try not to get too hung up on gender, race, or even human appearance where Bavadin is concerned. There are some peoples who worship entire pantheons where every member is actually her.

>>10287983
Oh fuck me I forgot that Frost already replied.

I feel like Letter 1 could be anyone. I agree with your point about Letter 2 although they mention being on the waters (which we know the Ire are located in the Shadesmar sea somewhere) and an unknown area. The wiki says Obrodai is a Shardworld but there is no source attached.

Good lord I hope we don't have to wait another two books for a continuation of Hoid & Friends. I wonder what that fucker is actually up to I need to finish book 3 at least

>>10288005
>tfw it's going to be another 30 fucking years before we know Hoid's full story

>>10286939
As funny as it is, I think the the book could've benefited from being longer.

>>10287828
It literally said so in an epigraph. The 4th ideal gives you armor, and is also a difficult one.

>>10288025
It genuinely upsets me that he keeps writing YA nobody asked for instead of his fucking 'dream series'.

>>10288025
This is missing the Silverlight novella that is supposed to come out eventually

>>10288029
>4th ideal
What is this?

>>10288061
>My spren claims that recording this will be good for me, so here I go. Everyone says I will swear the Fourth Ideal soon, and in so doing, earn my armor. I simply don’t think that I can. Am I not supposed to want to help people?
4th Windrunner Ideal is presumably something about taking a step back and accepting that you can't save everyone. Kal was close to swearing it but he just couldn't yet.

ITT: Times fantasy authors disappointed you

When will the Sanderson talking stop? I hate being reminded that I share a board with Redditors.

>>10288083
In 50 years when the stormlight 10 hype dies down and dragonsteel/nightblood are both done

>>10288086
Dumb gay books for dumb gay people

>>10288088
I'm not gay

>>10288091
You're super gay

>>10288088
In fifty years Sanderson will have converted you into a devout Mormon and you'll be drooling about Stormlight 10 with everyone else.

>>10288079
Gibson's entire twitter, he's literally a corporatist authoritarian now.

>>10288083
These books come out every four years or so, I'm sure it'll die down at some point in the interim.

>>10288114
Everybody thought Cyberpunk authors were satirizing or criticising absolutism, corporatism and capitalism, turns out they were "new sincerity" before "new sincerity" was a thing because Stephenson is literally owned by ultra-capitalists authoritarians.

>>10288140
Stephenson was always satirizing cyberpunk.

>>10288154
If that makes you feel any better about Snow Crash, sure, lets go with that.

>>10288083
Assuming Oathbringer is slightly more popular than the latest Mistborn book it will start to die down in a week or two and we'll be back to normal at the start of the new year. However, people might receive the book during the holidays and Sanderson season might extend into the new year.

>>10288163
Even if you take Snow Crash as entirely sincere, his next big work was Diamond Age.

>>10288079
>>10288114
>giving a shit about authors political opinions
If the books are good I don't give a shit what they tweet about.

>>10288079
JKR twitter is a garbage dump. She gas no backbone. Stephen King's is shit too although he's not a fantasy author entirely.
But I'm not sure what I've expected from these people considering the books they've written.

>>10288025
It's funny, when it comes to Sanderson, the problem isn't that he doesn't write, it's that he writes too much.

>3+ threads of pure sandersonposting
Never should've trusted you faggots' shit taste

>>10288683
Anon, it's the first real Stormlight Archive since 2013. This is an event.

Does it bother anyone else Eshonai being dead? I think I get what he's going for with Venli but unlike Elhokar her dying offscreen between books doesn't seem to fit narratively

>>10288815
It's a nice parallel to Gavilar and Dalinar, and somebody needed to die. Eshonai set her dreams and passion aside to take up a Shardblade and fight a war she could have just run away from on the Shattered Plains. She would have died rather than served Odium, and we know she was able to attune true rhythms even when bound with a voidspren much more easily than Venli. I doubt Odium would have allowed her to live.


My guess for her flashback book is that Eshonai will end up as the returning part of a Fused (since we know that certain Parshmen can be reborn) and get shoved into Venli as punishment for contacting Dalinar by Odium.

A girl at school recommended I read name of the wind. I don't want to read it unless you plebs think its pretentious trash. So do you guys like it?

>>10288877

>>10288877
The general consensus around here is that the book is horrible.

>>10288877
NotW is 300% pretentious trash that thinks it's way better than it is. Sounds perfect for you.

>>10288864
Yeah, it's a nice parallel but it's still weird that we didn't at least get a paragraph about it in WoR.
I like the idea of dead Eshonai being a spren. What if she's Timbre?

>>10288919
>>10288864
>>10288815
I thought it was pretty clear that she died falling off a cliff in WoR

>>10288946
She survived the fall, she drowned after the Highstorm stopped and she ran out of Stormlight

>write books about a heroic hired killer mafioso
>the actual mob murders your friend IRL for doing union organization
>keep writing books about the mobster hitman

>>10288068
I wonder what the fifth Ideal would be.
I CRACKED SANDERSON's WHOLE NOVEL OPEN
The fifth ideal would be something akin to slaughtering people. That is why the radiants left all those centuries ago. They couldn't swear the fifth ideal and just dropped everything and let humanity take care of themselves. I bet it turns out that the Radiants weren't the good guys after all.

>>10288946
she was in shardplate though and like with most named characters falling off a cliff shouldn't have been a death sentence. It'd one of those classic fake out deaths, so it makes it hard to buy.

>>10286183
I write fanfic on FanFiction_net and the reviews have all been overwhelmingly positive. That's enough for me to continue writing.

>>10288970
that would be way better than PARSHENDI ARE NATIVE AMERICANS WE STOLE THURR LAND but it doesn't make as much sense as Radiant powerlevels can leave planets uninhabitable

any good fantasy book where the protag is a barbarian or have barbarian blood?
Not dnd shit pls

>>10289002
Robert E. Howard. Conan series.

>>10289016
dude
who hasnt read conan?

>>10289034
Nobody, if we're living in 1950.

>>10288998
Parshendi owning the planet wouldn't be that big a deal if any other Shard were tied to the magic system/planet. Remember that the Radiant Oaths are about how you must live your life with honor, because everyone dies in the end (and the Skybreakers do act with honor) , that most generations of Radiants had Honor and the Heralds to guide them and say "yes we broke into their house but Odium wants to burn down the planet." before Honor went completely nuts and started raving about Dawnshards, weapons that destroyed the Tranquiline Halls, the exact same planet busters that fucked their last world up., and that humans being the invaders is important because it confirms that humans brought Odium to Roshar, so the cycle of Desolations/imprisonment of the Heralds is their fault. On top of this, Nalan has knowledge the Ghostbloods don't and believes that binding spren pushes the Desolation closer. The honorable thing to do is stop binding spren, so they did.

Before Ishar codified the Oaths and deliberately gated Radiant powerlevels, Surgebinders were bullshit. Shallan can create an army and make them partially real and she's only at her third or fourth Truth; Kaladin is lvl 3 and he constantly creates even more Windrunners on top of his ridiculous combat skill. Jasnah is high-level but probably not 5, considering that no Skybreaker has attained Fifth Oath for centuries, with a system deliberately designed to help Skybreakers swear Oaths and she instakills anyone non-Invested and pulverizes/burns/encases in solid stone anyone who is. That's a lot of power.

>>10288970
The Radiant were pretty good guys, I feel. Honor's death left them kinda shaken though, and the invader revelation too, and in the end it was decided to disband the order. There's gotta be more to this though. Perhaps this only happened, in the first place, because they though they had "won", so they imprisoned some Unmade, called it a day, and everything seemed to be OK.

>>10289187
They won't be at that power level all the time, but they could wreck some shit for sure. Again, though, there must be more to it than just possible destruction though.

wtf sanderson. He isn't the wholesome shy author anymore. he's talking about windows to offer passage deep into women, and a matching window on the shardplate so something can come out to do the entering.
Jesus fuck. This dude is going balls out.

>>10289310
???

>>10289292
>>10289187
Maybe they realized that by entering Roshar, humans brought Odium, which directly enabled Odium to destroy Honor. Not only did they rely on Honor, but they basically killed him. Odium's nature is to destroy, but humanity chose to enter Roshar and bring Odium with them

>>10289292
Yeah. Remember, the Recreance happened 500 years after the Heralds left. During the Desolations, binding Spren was worth it to fight the Voidbringers off, but after 500 years of mostly peace and Parsh wars, where they were fighting innocents instead of Thunderclasts, they captured Sja-anat and called it a day. Kaladin had a hard enough time fighting innocents in Kholinar that it's easy to imagine the Windrunners campaigning for an end to their Oaths which would explain their friction with the Skybreakers. On top of that The Sibling presumably got messed up somehow.

>>10288970
We do know the Fifth Ideal for two of the Consecrated Orders. It's not that though the Windrunner's Fourth is tied to that in some way..

>>10289333
I'm guessing that humans brought the whole Shard shebang with them to Roshar. The planet they ruined is probably Ashyn or Braize, so they came from nearby. Roshar just became the battleground for Odium's escape schemes

>>10289187
>>10289292

>>10289333
Yeah, something like that is directly stated in the listener song, but it's not like they had much of a choice. Either risk it, or die. What exactly went down during those times, we'll probably get the full picture in Taln's book.

The current order certainly doesn't have to worry about this anymore, since all hell's went loose anyway. At this point it's total victory or death.

My guess is the old order came up with some sort of plan to allow them to clean their conscience to some degree, and then disbanded. It's also quite likely some people started giving up entirely before that, the whole organization got fractured. The epigraphs in the new book tell this kind of story. I wish we got more though.

>>10289356

Anyone here read this? Is it fun?

>>10289356
But what was Elhokar's Truth? We know he knows he can never live up to his father, that he feels worthless and paranoid, and that he trusts Aesudan so much because she always knew what to do.

He was really happy to be a woman in Kholinar.

>>10289377
He didn't even get the chance to swear the shared First Ideal, he never got to truths.

>>10289365
>Is it fun
I honestly doubt it. But give it a shot if you want to.

>>10288111
Anybody else find it weird that the stormlight archives are a half step away from being canonical Mormon text?

>>10289407
What do you mean? Most people haven't read that shit.

>>10289407
Apparently a lot of his books are about Mormonism, but the only things I k now about Mormons come from the Book of Mormon so I didn't really notice anything.

>>10289421
I read the Book of Mormon and The Pearl of Great Price (their... Bible, I guess).

It's almost 1 to 1 what he writes about in the series.

The Galaxy is littered with humans living on other planets, with magic, that they get from their planets god, and they get more magic the more closely they follow the rules of their god, until they become a good themselves, like kelsier and Vin in mistborn, where they get to go to another planet and make their own tribe of people.

Loosely interpreted, the stormlight archives could almost be considered a true story from the Mormon perspective.

>>10289440
PoGP isn't the Bible, it's a bunch of supplementary weird stuff. Sanderson is definitely inspired by Mormon deep doctrine, but it's less weird if you think of it as something like a Hindu author putting Ramayana influences in.

>>10289440
Mistborn also has the sacred metal plates with inalienable truths.
Honestly if Mormonism is the source of all the ANIME then he can keep it coming.

>>10289462
Still canonical, though.
And it's less of an influence like naming a character Rama and more... Writing the Ramayana but changing the names

>>10279208
You know WoT is really hype every time Lewis Therin does something. I remember that time he was going to break one of the seals right in front of everybody

>>10289498
That would actually be Orson Scott Card's Children of Earth series, which actually was the Book of Mormon with names changed in space. Drawing on concepts is a different thing. Like we talk about Tolkien-inspired fantasy but we don't mean there's always a ring and a volcano and eagles ex machina.

>>10289440
>>10289495
Yeah, as long as the books keep coming it's all good. Seems to be fairly loose "inspiration" anyway.

So Thunderclast are just Susanoo?

>>10279208
Holy shit Oathbringer was fucking garbage. DROPPED.

>>10289519
See you in 2020 :-^)

>>10289519
t. Graves

>>10289526
nigga got OWNED
I mean Oathbringer had some pathetic deaths but holy crap

>>10279208
killing Kaladin was the stupidest thing he could have done. Also those Shallan chapters were awful.

>>10289540
Would anyone come to this thread, on this website, before having read it, and then mouse over that?

>>10289519
>falling for the sanderson meme
Hope you learned your lesson. Just watch some anime instead

>>10289540
Bait.

>>10289522
No I'll be reading other fantasy novels while making fun of Sanderson

>>10289517
SANDERSON IS ANIME

>>10289517
Sasunoo is light. Thunderclast are rock beings.
What the fuck you on?

Am I allowed to play the third age mod for medieval II?

>>10289495
>Honestly if Mormonism is the source of all the ANIME then he can keep it coming.

Basically this. However Mormon it might be, I don't feel like I'm being preached to and I'm having fun with the books.

i always tought shindol and sanagi were kings of the mindbreak
but robert jordan takes it to another level

Reminder

Ruin>Odium

>>10289733
maybe but he dead

>>10289733
Too bad that's irrelevant now.
Odium is scared shitless of Harmony tho, Saze just needs to figure out a loophole so he isn't restricted to sitting on his hands

How does this sound as a worldbuilding element/part of a premise?

Anybody who doesn't wake up naturally wakes up as a mindless zombie, their consciousness gone forever? Society has taken great care to ensure that everybody is able to naturally wake up every morning

>>10289756
Define "naturally wakes up"

>>10289756
>parenting is suicide
>death penalty for a car backfiring
>XF-84H is a weapon of mass destruction

>>10289756
I really don't like it.

never read a sanderson book and dont plan on doing so

>>10289911

>>10289911
Yeah, I never planned to do it either

>fuck it, I've got a day to waste
>libgen way of kings

Now I have to wait 3 years for a fucking book

>>10289911
That's fine anon. It just means they're not a good fit for you.

Amaram did nothing wrong

>>10290161

>>10290161
t. Amaram

>>10290161
more like animemaram amirite?

You know who I'm really glad we didn't see more of? Mraize.
>lol good job learning all these cool things about your world, heroes, but we're the secret society that's in every Cosmere book that already knows all of that, devaluing every discovery and also being a major Book of Mormon theme

>>10290180
>dual wielding magic 8 foot swords while transforming into a giant rock monster all while giving a dramatic speech

Anime as fuck, yo.

>>10288877
It's terrible

>Kaladin Just standing there as Elhokar dies at the moment of his redemption

I am 200% mad. What was the point of WoR if it just happens again?

>>10286741
I am totally shipping Jasnah and Kaladin now. Even with the age difference.

>>10290224
No, this situation was exactly the opposite.

>>10289753
I really fucking look forward to Sazed v Rayse. Because if anything is clear from the return letter from Harmony, Sazed IS interested in helping, especially so Hoid can tell him the truths he has not been able to learn.

Harmony has a great place in the universe. And he and Odium are going to clash.

I just hope Kelsier shows up on Roshar one day soon.

>>10290225
Have they interacted, ever? Like, I think there were a couple knights radiant group meeting scenes where both were present but, unless I'm forgetting something, I don't think they've ever actually directly spoken to each other.

>>10290161
Amaram deserved everything he got. So did Sadeus.

>>10290241
Did did, in fact. They taunt one another in the book. But with Jasnah being Queen and Kaladin now being one of her High Princes with rule over some of her land, there will be alot more interaction.

Jasnah and Kaladin is a wonderful thing both of them need, I think.

But really, Syl is Best Girl.

>>10290235
It is literally exactly the same

Kaladin just sits on his knees as Moash kills Elhokar

Just because it was muh emotions instead of a conscious decision doesn't change the situation at all.

>>10290239
>Kelsier
I only just read Secret History. I'm hyped as fuck for where this goes.

>>10290249
Being locked in a literal trap of Power as his Oaths were tearing him one way then another.

>>10290252
He /is/ confirmed to still be alive at the end of Bands of Mourning. Wherever he is now... I sure as fuck hope he goes to Roshar and shows Odium just what an Allomancer is capable of.

>>10290249
In WoR he wasn't protecting someone he should have been, and thus even almost lost Syl

In Oath he wanted to protect everyone in a room full of people trying to kill each other. In essence, he was trying to protect people he really shouldn't have been.

The 4th Ideal is to somehow strike a balance here.

>>10290248
>Kaladin now being one of her highprinces
n-nani, when did this happen

>>10290259
He's got feruchemy and hemalurgy as well. Motherfucker is a potential nuclear powerhouse.

>>10290268
Dalinar mentions that Kaladin is now a lord and has a couple of small villages that he is technically a ruler of but I don't think you could really call him a 'highprince'.

I am also amused as fuck. The trio that came to the Purelake in the first book in one of the side stories, the ones who were hunting an escaped criminal. Everyone assumed they were on Roshar to hunt down Hoid.

But its to hunt down NIGHTBLOOD. And Hoid is actually friends with them.

Also, did you notice that the Oracle in the tower in Shadesmar said 'Merciful Domi'? He is from Elantris!

>>10290268
Elhokar confirmed it when he was travelling with Kaladin to Kolinar. Basically Kaladin is now a High Prince of the riverlands where his home is.

>>10290268
Kaladin has a little fief way on the other side of Alethkar but it looks like I'm not the only one hoping he'll be elevated to the new Sadeas.

>>10290225
Kaladin belongs to Syl

>>10290279
That would be so fucking ironic holy shit

>>10290268
>>10290273
>>10290278
Or Dalinar did, yeah. One of the two. Fuck I need to read it again. But honestly, ruling land there... he probably is now basically a Highprince in service to the Queen.

>>10290278
>Basically Kaladin is now a High Prince of the riverlands where his home is.
Fertile land close to the Shattered Plains. Just a perfect nowhere he could evacuate his family to, if they're not Parshfood yet.

>>10290280
Syl is pure and not for lewding

It's Kaladin x Syl or Kaladin x Shallan or Shallan x Jasnah I'm not feeling whatever the fuck Kaladin x Jasnah is supposed to be.

>>10289931
>libgen
>not b-ok

What do you guys think will happen to Laral?

>>10290284
And glorious! I'd love it.
>>10290270
He is, quite literally, a new, better Lord Ruler. I think only a Shard would stand a chance at killing him now, or someone Ascended. But beyond power level... he is going to wreck Odium's shit. Especially if Odium is the one responsible for the evil Kandra to unseat/distabilize Harmony.

Like Dalinar.

Can voidspren form shardblades or are they just hoarding the several thousand Shards that were lost after the Recreance? There's only 200 or so deadblades across Roshar but there were thousands of spren who died

>>10290302
>Shallan x Jasnah

Amazing taste

>>10290316
>Pattern and Ivory, the two most autistic spren, get locked out of the bedchamber and have to sneak in to watch

>>10290302
Kaladin x Jasnah is would be a Cougar taking a young man as her lover. Kaladin is what? 20? Jasnah is almost 40. Perfect age for it.

Jasnah doesn't need no man, honestly, but her and Kaladin falling in love would be nice. For both of them.

>>10290309
A very good question. My guess is that Voidspren can't become Shardblades until a high level of Odium Investiture is gained. Like by a high ranking Fused.

>>10290318
>NO MATING!

>>10290291
>

>>10290291
I really can't wait for the rest of the Honorspren to learn that the Stormfather has acknowledged and bonded to a new Bondsmith. One who actually knows the truth of what caused the Recreance and is keeping true to his Oaths.

One who can BIND ALL THREE REALMS TOGETHER!

Wheel of time is so fucking amazing
there are any others books with prophecies?
I really fuckin love prophecies.

>>10290335
Clearly you need to read Sanderson. Sanderson is Prophecy Central.

>>10290334
Also an Honorspren has clearly learned already, considering spoiler]Lopen swearing the second Ideal and becoming a full fledged Windrunner.[/spoiler]

>>10290334
Is binding all three realms just a high level Bondsmith technique or is Dalinar only able to do it because he was somehow acting as Honor?

>>10290345
Nope. The Highfather said /no one but Honor has ever done this before/.

>>10290345
>>10290350

The leading theory is that Honor's Shard, while Splintered by Odium, is not destroyed. And Dalinar is somehow piecing it back together inside himself. Its quite possible Dalinar is going to become the new Honor Shardbearer by the end of this.

>>10290334

Also an Honorspren has clearly learned already, considering Lopen swearing the second Ideal and becoming a full fledged Windrunner.

>>10290351
I'm so fucking hyped.

>>10290351
When a shard splinters it isn't destroyed,
its power is just distributed across the splinters.
The Stormfather received a significant amount of Honor, so whoever bonded to him gained that power and a significant portion of Honor.

Theory: Dolinar can become Honor, but only if he unites all of the loose honorspren and the windrunning surgebinders

>Szeth just fucking shows up and joins team Radiant and nobody seems to really care despite him spending all of book 2 trying to kill them

I was hoping we'd get a scene where somebody at least addresses this.

>>10290374
That really bothered me too.

>>10290303
Libgen searches b-ok.

>>10290309
Honestly I figured Worldhoppers came and stole a bunch of the Shardblades and took them offworld.

>>10290374
That is a big plot hole, but also kindof acknowledged by Jasnah. But in the situation they were in, when they were all but lost... him showing up and offering his aid in fighting beside them would have been a godsend.

He is the fucking ASSASSIN IN WHITE afterall. How many people did he kill afterall? And if he has shown up, sworn to Dalinar, and decides to fight beside you... you fucking well just point him in the right direction.

I think the next book will involve alot more Szeth stuff though. And more NIGHTBLOOD! YAY! And maybe Lift too!

>>10290374
>>10290382

Dalinar knows that Szeth had his powers in WoK and WoR from the Honorblade, which he has lost. When he shows up again he has powers, so in Dalinar's mind, it's clear that Szeth is enough of a good guy that he could swear the ideals and bind an Honorspren, to become a Windrunner. Dalinar doesn't realize that Szeth is actually a Skybreaker, or even that Skybreakers are still around.

>>10290394
>YAY!
get out

anyway I'm pretty sure next book will be Szeth-focused, with the Azish army Dalinar gives him to invade Shinovar with.

>>10290393
Very likely. We don't really know the situation in the big cities out in the Cognitive Realm. Shardblades would be highly coveted whatever Realm you are on.

>>10290395
Actually he does. In that moment of clarity during the big event, he looks at Szeth and sees him as a Skybreaker.

And right now Dalinar isn't stupid enough to turn aside anyone or anything.

>>10290394
Considering that Book 5 is supposed to be Szeth's flashback book I'm assuming that he won't really be in focus and get to go on his Shin Leadership revenge-quest until then.

>>10290401
>He doesn't want to DESTROY EVIL!

Nightblood is the best Sanderson character, no contest

>>10290401
Come on. You know Nightblood would YAY! Nightblood is adorable like that.

>>10290373
Yeah, very likely. Splintered shards can be reformed and that fact alone would probably drive Odium CRAZY.

>>10290409
That doesn't mean you should be a faggot about it. We're already fagging the general enough without YAYposting.

FFS make a sanderson general, you're taking up the whole thread

>>10290409
>nightblood
>not Tonk Fah

He's the only relatable character Brandy Sandy's ever written

>>10290402
>Shardblades would be highly coveted whatever Realm you are on.
they're literally worthless eyeless walking vegetables in Shadesmar

What does Nightblood look like in the cognitive realm?

>>10290415
What non sanderson have you read lately that you'd like to discuss?

>>10290302
>shasnah
would post mfw but I gotta post this. Here it is, the only decent picture of Shallan ogling Jasnah in the bath. Bless you and bless your impeccable taste.

By the way, how fucking amazing was it finally seeing Odium?

He has been built up for years across several series and while other Shards, like Ruin, might technically be more dangerous then he is... Odium is possibly the most passionately destructive.

Possibly Rayse's influence, possibly the Shard's.

But Odium? That was like the Dark One strolling in and just saying 'Hi Rand.' Totally glorious and wonderfully tooled. He promises to be just fucking terrifying and a great villain of this entire series and maybe more.

Afterall, I don't think whatever happens on Roshar... Odium will be defeated, but not destroyed or splintered or killed. Odium is clearly working elsewhere, notably Scadrial, to try and bring down Harmony.

>>10290420
>reading

>>10290420
Good fucking question. I hope we find out. He is a majorly powerful Investiture, whatever he is. Vasher made Nightblood with a gigantic mass of Endowment and if it is a Spren of Steel or something...

So, the ending of Cosmere would probably be:

Adonalsium was shattered for being a dick of a God. After all the events of the books take place, the individual pieces of God's power are transformed through their experiences to be wiser, smarter people.
Hoid's goal was to bring the shards back together to reforge Adonalsium, and his essence will be the base layer. All the now wise shards combine with Hoid (17th shard) to make a God 2.0 who won't be a fucking wanker this time.

Right?

>>10290426
It was cool to have him show up, but humanizing him makes him a lot less threatening. Dalinar even pointed that out. Still, villain with a personality > 'evil force of hate'.

>>10290426
I was ready for a Ruin style "BURN EVERYTHING" boring shard
Bsandy did manage to make Odium fucking terrifying.
>Oh Parshman you're absolutely right that my army can't win, but I just brought them here to witness me crush them myself.
>Old Friend, this is going to hurt
>Did you think you could negotiate from a position of power?


He's like a pit that just consumes any emotion you have near him and leaves you a drained husk.

>>10290428
t. Adolin

>>10290433
Its certainly possible, but its hard to judge at this point. So far we do know that Hoid is basically collecting nearly all kinds of Investiture. He now even has his own Cryptic.

It could be that is his end game. Or his end game is to be the one to kill Rayse and claim Odium for himself to try and control it.

>>10290440
Speaking of. I am so looking forward to him Healing his Shard and bringing her back. Its clear he loves and cares for her, and she is a part of him. And the biggest part is that she is RESPONDING to that. She came to him in 7 heartbeats rather then 10 to save his life.

She is healing. Slowly and steadily, but she is healing.

And when she is healed, Adolin will be a Surgebinder.

>>10290471
He has a Cryptic, he's a Mistborn, Awakening doesn't have any requirements besides breath, what else?

>>10290471
>Or his end game is to be the one to kill Rayse and claim Odium for himself to try and control it.

This to me feels unlikely because he has previously turned down a shard.

>>10290477
I can't wait for him to fuck his sword

What happened to Aimia in the past? It seems like it got nuked

>>10290478
He has whatever investiture he had on his native world. Something akin to Lightweaving. He might also know Eon Dor.

>>10290480
Point. I suspect he might want to either splinter Odium or something.

>>10290483
Shallan will make it an orgy with her 3 other selves.

Who would be the best waifu out of Shallan, Veil or Radiant?

>>10290489
Yeah what was up with that?
And soulcasting turns you into a fucking wraith?

>>10290493
Radiant>Veil>Shallan

>>10290489
Very good question. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Aimia explains everything we know so far. But its fucking weird, whatever it is.

>>10290493
Veil is the most exotic coloration, but also a slut. Radiant is a bountiful handful and regal waifu. Shallan is just fuckin' lewd little firecrotch.

>>10290497
Soulcasting with a Fabrial must have a price. But Soulcasting via using Surgebinding is probably okay. Fabrials basically take spren, lock them into gemstones, and force them to work. There is probably a big price to pay for using a power as dangerous as Soulcasting that way.

>>10290489
Aimia is probably one of the last great holdouts of Cultivation. Remember, Cultivation is all about Change and Growth and Transformation. Which explains alot about just what live there in the form of those hordelings.

Who are really fucking creepy. I read about all these cremlings scuttling about in the story and I think '...is that part of a Hordeling spying on them?'

Reminder that /ourguy/ Sazed could fix all of Roshar's problems if he found some way of getting around his inaction problem

>Rayse is VERY scared of Sazed. However, given Sazed is a composite of two diametrically opposed shards, he finds it very difficult to act.

t. Brandon

>>10290493
Radiant is literally Saber. So Radiant.

>>10290493
Raidant is literally best girl

Not even a contest

>>10290550
>made Wax kill his transforming magic waifu,twice
>ourguy

>>10290493
Veil. Radiant is too stuck up and Shallan is a classist bitch.

>>10290493
Veil
>does whatever or whoever she wants whenever she wants
>constantly narrates every single thing she does like she's in a crime novel.
>edgy

Shallan
>a cute
>a lewd
>an anime
>an autistic

Radiant
>STACKED
>honorable lady knight
>Jasnah-lite?

>>10279443
You need to find a new way to engage with it. As a boy you can just get swept away. When you get older you may or may not find other things to appreciate. The thing that compensates for low quality in my view is the singularity of vision and voice. Because no real money is at risk, it's not workshopped into mud like TV and movies. Authors tend to be either naively guileless or insufficiently skilled to camouflage themselves so you get to experience another person through the shared medium of genre. I read genre fiction for exactly the same reasons I visit 4chan, except here we communicate through memes rather than genre tropes, and we are all the author.

As a young fellow I thought it was the product I was consuming, but if this were really the appeal I would just watch Marvel movies.

>>10290278
>Everyone assumed they were on Roshar to hunt down Hoid.
But they specifically state that the quarry is named Hoid.

>Basically Kaladin is now a High Prince
Seemed to me that Dalinar said the land only has a few smaller settlements in it. Far from a princehood.

>>10290420
Based on the other magical sword we are shown from that world, Azure's 'shardblade', probably the same as in the physical realm.

>>10290478
Whatever allows him to manipulate/move dust and smoke for illusions in storytelling that he does in most books.

>>10290508
>.is that part of a Hordeling spying on them?'
Almost certainly.

I really liked the answer Dalinar finds.

>>10290680
The most important step a man can take? I liked that too. Now if only I could follow that advice...

>>10288877
It's very good

>>10290706
I think maybe the best thematic points of Stormlight is the fact that have to literally become a better person to get cooler magic. I don't think I've ever seen strength measured by how little a dick you are before.

>Sanderson everyday since Tuesday till you like it

>>10290725

>>10290725
Storms take you anon

>>10290718
I want to be a better person tooooo ;_;

>started Sanderson Tuesday
>as of 5 minutes ago I finished part I
>would probably take me until Christmas to finish this novel
Why did I let you guys meme into reading on release date.

>>10290781
Do you not have much free time anon?

Also if makes you feel better, Part 1 is about as long as Return of the King.

>>10290809
*unsheathes safehand*

>>10290792
I am no longer a NEET. I am a wagecuck now. I must serve my masters 8hrs out of every 5 days. It takes time to prepare before that 8hrs, and time to disassemble after.
My free time is spent doing as much times as possible. Books, anime, movies, music, chores, 4chan.

>>10290817
I've got a full time job as well anon, I just read it on my office computer when nobody was paying attention.

>“Your Majesty, you’re going to be a woman.”
>“Fine,” Elhokar said.

>>10290832
Elhokar did nothing wrong

>>10290832
Living the dream

>>10290832
His death pissed me off mostly because I was really starting to like his character

>>10290844
Same. Fuck moash.

>>10290844
Same His reaction to seeing the sketch really got me. Especially when he died with it in his hand.

>>10290854
>>10290844
Moash did nothing wrong, Elkohar killed his parents, was a bad king, was a lighteyes, and parshmen deserve to rule the Roshar anyways.

>>10290809
Not as bad as M. John Harrison using "blew on [his/their] fingers to indicate scorching" multiple times in Light.

>>10290871
People can change, anon.

>>10290883
then why are you still posting on chinese cartoon pornography websites instead of living a happy successful fulfilling life

>>10290854

>>10290854
I cannot believe he had the audacity to do the bridge 4 salute.

BORN TO FLY
ROSHAR IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1173
I am parsh man
410,757,864,530 DEAD LIGHTEYES

>>10290887
Because none of this is real anyway.
Best case scenario, all life is just fluctuations in a quantum field and death is truly the end. Worst case, this is all a simulation.

>>10290871
I really like the story so far, I just wish he wrote a little... Subtler? Everything is just...taken to the 14/10 extreme

hold me /sffg/

>>10290918
okay brother.

>>10290914
He writes subtle in some avenues. Like, his whole god plot and the plans of Ruin in Mistborn was pretty well done, I think, and he has a lot of plots going through Stormlight that I at least didn't see coming like Dalinar being Odiums first champion or His plan to turn Sadeas' army against the city.

>>10290918
come here little lamb.

>>10290918
>>10290989
ty

>>10290718
How little a dick you are?
Maybe for Edgedancers or Truthwatchers sure, but Willshapers have to devote their entire life to their autistic obsession, Lightweavers can do whatever they want as long as they're honest with themselves about it, Skybreakers BECOME THE LAW, Stonewards refuse to back down, and, if Jasnah is any indication, Elsecallers are basically bound to kill people if that saves the world the alley thugs,
her immediate suggestion to kill the Heralds and send them back to Damnation

>>10291034
Probably a good thing Fifth Ideals are rare.
without a proper framework for guidance, they really have the potential to do a lot of damage.

>>10290871
Moash is a super bitch who doesn't recognise redemption when he sees it, basically kaladin stuck in perma angry slave mode

>>10290894
can't wait for kaladin to burn that cunt's eyes out

>>10291051
Implying it won't be Gavilon
ah, who am I kidding it'll be Jasnah

>>10290832
Poor Elhokar. At least he got to be a woman for a while before he died.

>>10291045
We know exactly one Fifth Ideal Radiant and he is completely fucking nuts,
willing to murder Surgebinders and proclaim himself the law. I mean, he is the Herald of Law but that's kind of a secondary thing

>>10291055
>elsecalls behind you
>You're fucking dead kiddo

>>10290920
>>10290989
ty

Odium's got three colours apparently (gold, red and violet) which one is actually his? Most of the other Shards have a colour theme

Has anyone ever had a more pathetic death than Graves?

>>10291109
Gold is his, I think. Red is the Parshmen, corrupted spren, and Everstorm, but since Sja-anat is the Unmade opposite the red Lightweavers and the Parshmen were made by Adonalsium [check coppermind] wait fuck. Violet? The Willshapers are violet, and their whole deal is autistic passion.

>>10291115
Tien

>>10291115
Eshonai. Drowning in a highstorm of all things.

>>10291132
>he thinks Eshonai is dead

>>10289924
When did he say he doesn't like it? The whole thread is full of nothing but oathbringer discussion and you still have to go out of your way to make passive aggressive jabs at anyone who dares mention that they don't read sanderson. How mature and enlightened.

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