/lit/ - Literature

>>10776815
>Chinese Communist Party
not REAL communism

>Someome is finally rising up and banning all of the pleb books

What, are they going to ban enlightenment philosophy next?

>>10776819
But china is really not real communism. They are hyper capitalist and basically an imperialist power. What there is left of communism?

I mean, I understand why they would do such a thing. After all, the Chinese government is authoritarian. Honestly, surprised it took them this long to do it. Mind you, I don't agree with book banning at all. So fuck China.

>>10776839
Hopefully

>>10776815
and thanks to Trump america won't be far behind in doing likewise

>>10776842
Disarming the counter-revolutionaries

>>10776815
>banning reddit books
absolutely based

Some Norwegian right-wing politician unironically nominated Xi for the Nobel Peace Prize. This is China’s century.

>>10776850
Trump is literally the opposite

>>10776850
You've been reading too much liberal media.

>>10776885
Barrack "100,000 bombs dropped in the middle East" Obama was awarded a Nobel """peace""" prize.

>>10776876
Conter revolutionary in modern china are the actual communists. You how in america the mention of communism makes people run away? China is exactly the opposite, if you don't mention communism they run awaya. Think about the meme of communism in 2050. Seriously, authoritarian state exist to avoid that actual communist take power. I'm no fan of mao, but holy shit it turned out bad for the last big anti revisionist

>>10776850
>wanting the public to keep their guns is authoritarian

>Less clear is why censors took issue with the letter ‘N’. Mair speculated it was “probably out of fear on the part of the government that ‘N’ = ‘n terms in office’, where possibly n > 2”.

da fug

>>10776903
he dropped them on terrorist

Don't read Orwell

>>10776903
To their defence, he got it before he turned into bloodthirsty war criminal.

>>10776815
>The Chinese government has banned the letter 'N'

>>10776934
fuck off aime poster

>>10776914
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/us/politics/trump-gun-control.amp.html
back to the_donald with you

>>10776935
>aime

Shit, the ban
has already reached
4chan

>>10776842
...The fact that almost all industries are still state controlled or tied to Government officials at some level?

>China isn't communist is now a meme

>>10776928
Do[redacted]'t read Orwell

>>10776850
Oh please that would imply Trump is actually competent to pull such a thing off.

>>10776939
>What is state capitalism?

>>10776888
>Trump is literally the opposite

>>10776939
That's not communism, dummy.
>>10776948
Not an argument

>>10776939
Of course how could I forget that communism is when the govt does something and the more the government does it the more communist it is

>>10776926
He probably shouldn't have, as it only exacerbated the problem and eventually culminated in the """migrant""" crisis in EU today. Not to say he didn't know what he was doing though, the whole apparatus is a ponzi scheme. Now Trump can't even say fuck off to refugees from those nations without being labeled a xenophobe when it's completely a completely normal insurance against blowback and collateral damage to disallow unsettled citizens from entering into the aggressing nation.

>>10776932
He was always a puppet, I'm sure it was the intention from the beginning. After all, when he started they still had the "muh Bin Laden" boogeyman to justify the ME escapades. Then they "got him" and (((????))) "well we can't pull out now because reasons".

>It was 't supposed to be a i structio ma uel!

Hahahhaahhaa, how the fuck is banning a book real hahhahahaa nigga just copy it, nigga just close your ears haha

>>10776939
That's more like socialism, communism is the outright dissolution of classes and currency, and I don't personally see China redistributing power back to the proletariat. Honestly most Western European countries are more socialist than China, they don't even have single-payer healthcare or free education. The current Chinese system is much more akin to a oligarchy. You know most industries would be controlled under a fascist system as well? It's also important to note that the protesters killed in Tiananmen Square were anti-Deng communists.

>>10776937
*ba
*4cha
>>10776952
*ot
*commu ism
*ot
*argume t
>>10776964
*ba i g
* igga
>>10776960
Welcome to Chi a

>>10776970
I'm going to adopt a riceigger. He'll be my persoal chiapet.

>>10776970
You‘re just fucki g arou d a o .

>>10776967
>>10776939
Oh please not even Xi himself acknowledge China is socialist since he literally declared China would become socialist in 20 years not so long ago.

>>10776977
*goi g

Ffs a o

>>10776983
That was exactly my point, but Stalin also claimed that the USSR would become actually socialist when it's economic kinks was worked out.

Why the fuck would you ba a letter used i pi yi
They use Lati letters to teach Chi ese to childre with pi yi
I ca 't eve acclaim Xi Ji ping as the preside t for life a ymore what i the fucki g fuck are you doi g

>>10776994
*xi ji pi g

>>10776999
It keeps happe i g

>>10777004

>>10776991
Stalin declared the soviet union socialist after the 5 years plan. It wasn't a kink, it's thanks to the five years plan that he abolished the nep.
Also it's not only about that. China has fucking sweat shops and cheap labour for the west. This shit is literally the opposite of socialism and beyond what a degenerate worker state would look like.
>>10776967
Socialism is not mild communism. I don't know where people get this idea.

>>10776991
So your point was that China is being ruled by communists that are trying to shift its current state capitalism to socialism like Lenin envisioned?

>>10777009
He declared socialism in one state, a blatant change to the party line since Lenin and the results of the five year plan was just state capitalism. Trust me I don't think China is in anyways socialist nor on the track to becoming so, not after Deng, not after Mao supported Pinochet.

According to marxism socialism is a transitory state between actual communism and capitalism, although I guess the term has been misused by Dem-Soc Europeans

>>10776815
> letter N banned

>>10777029
Those are soc dems, dem socs are actual socialists

>>10777029
>Mao supported Pinochet.
Wait what?

>>10777012
Maybe in the beginning, or maybe there are still people that believe that and are trying to advance in the Chinese Communist Party, but I think it's obvious that the Chinese don't aim for a traditional Marxist-Leninist Communist society that Lenin had in mind. I'm sure some of them don't give a shit and just want to maintain power and wealth for themselves and their family.

>>10777055
As much as I agree with your intense cynicism I am only using that to point out that not even the CCP believes that they are socialist let alone communist yet

>>10777049
https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/lom-3.htm
Chile recognized PRC as the only China so they were one of the first to recognize the coup government, also this was after the Sino-soviet split so that factored into it as well. Admittedly it's not like he was actively campaigning for them. What's probably worse is that they supported the Khmer Rouge after all the killings came to light.

http://www.chinafile.com/document-9-chinafile-translation

>>10777072
I know, but that feels a bit of a cop-out after the whole Socialism with Chinese characteristics spiel. I guess you can't be that delusional when you're setting up foxconn factories in special economic zones.

>>10776939
Might want to learn basic politics / economics before posting on the matter.

>yfw China hasnt accomplished anything in literature or philosophy since Confucious
>yfw 90% of chinks are essentially slaves doing the most basic of tasks
>yfw they are anti intellectual, anti art and anti freedom
>yfw they ban entry level literature

>>10777087
Interesting read. Thank you.

Impressive.

With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. The blessings of Chinese plasma stealth technology, quantum direct-current electricity, gamma titanium mono crystal turbines, quantum aircraft carriers, near-space ballistic air-to-air missiles, and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

>>10776939
So the British Empire and the gilded age US were communist?

>>10776815
Based Xi

>>10777192
Collectivism is a nightmare

>>10776850
In all honesty, such news should make us grateful that even though we don't have the greatest president, we still have a relatively democratic system which won't, any time soon, get into such flagrant and excessive abuses as this. Not only that, but Trump's personality and political style is pretty far from this.

glad i didn't buy any chinese stocks, all the "china's gonna roll the west" fags btfo

>>10776845
They didn't ban the books. They banned mentioning their titles during the time when Xi Jinping was being met with a ton of criticism. They didn't want to allow people to draw the comparison

The Chiese goverment has baaed the letter?

>>10777076
>What's probably worse is that they supported the Khmer Rouge after all the killings came to light.
Didn't USA do that as well?

>>10777192
>yfw China hasnt accomplished anything in literature or philosophy since Confucious
damn, even pajeets have been churning out authors to this day.

chinks aint human

>>10777502
*blocks your path*

i just saw a chinese hipster in the rich section of my city rocking a full balenciaga tracksuit, at least wasp hipsters try to look like they're poor

>>10777029
nixon btfo communism when he met with mao mao axed him like "how do u manage ur economy so good bro" and nixon's all "i just step back and let the free market work" which is like the classic line from the daodejing thats like "managing the economy is like cooking a fish, u ruin it with too much poking" after that u knew communism wasnt gonna last, it was just one of those deadly poison darts that you can't recover

>>10777500
Yeah, PRC and the US end up on the same side in a lot of these cold war proxy battles after the 60s.

>>10777192
But that's not true

>>10776939

>UK in 1858
>literally nationalise an entire subcontinent previously owned by a private company

I guess Queen Victoria was a communist though

>>10776850
>people responded to this

>>10776928
New meme confirmed

>>10776926
He bombed a fucking NGO hospital

>>10776926
He bombed wedding parties and civilian's homes.

>>10776926
he also bombed a usa citizen without trial, democrats whine and complain about the death penalty, then dish out to death to their own citizens in extra-judicial duturte style killings

>>10777615
He bombed an italian prisoner too, just sayin. Not to name the countless drone killings.

>>10777192
wrog

>>10776839
This!

>>10777192
>>yfw 90% of chinks are essentially slaves doing the most basic of tasks
>yfw this is what STEMfagism will lead to

>>10777568
>he doesn't ironically sincerely reply to bait

>>10776939
look, im not a communist, but you have to be fucking retarded if you fell for the "socialism with chinese characteristics" meme.

>>10777568
must defend daddy, even from post-ironic shitposts

>>10776815
>The Chinese government has banned the letter 'N'
But why

>>10776940
underrated

>>10776934
cute anime post!

>banned Orwell
Unironically based

>For years memes derisively comparing Xi to the honey-loving bear Winnie the Pooh have circulated on the internet, so Pooh is periodically censored, like the character was Sunday after the term limits announcement,
China Digital Times reported.

>The rest of the world first heard about this ban in 2013 when the Financial Times reported on it and printed a long-circulated picture showing the bear strolling with his tiger friend, Tigger, next to a photo of Xi walking with his then-US counterpart, Barack Obama,
in 2013.
fucking kek

>>10778136
>"socialism with chinese characteristics"
In Europe we call this fascism. - Slavoj Zizek

>>10776815

You know what, I'm fairly okay with China doing that. If China had a liberal democracy we'd have a real problem with rich Chinese kids moving to foreign countries to work and thus usurping local populations. As is, they're fucking awful at critical thinking so will never be considered above westerners for genuinely good jobs.

Trust me on this. I interact with postgraduate Chinese students daily. They can't think critically. The only time I've ever seen them show intelligence is when we we discussed formal logic.

>>10776935
fuck off ormalfag

>>10776939
When Felix Brutus shored his foot on the pebbly sand of the great British coastline the island was thenceforth communist until the advent and primacy of trade guilds. Was the pyramid of Akhenaten a communist venture given the complete government control of the process? Did the communist Indus River Valley civilisation collapse into the sieve of history because it's priesthood was too busy singing the internationale when the invisible hands of the market were throwing gang signs?
The comment I reply to is inconsequential, but it legitimately reveals a trend of jigsaw-puzzle rhetoric that steamrolls nuance in favor of calling Tsar Nikolai II a tragic hero who would have totally been prepared for the rise of numerous offensive attacks on Russia from the south and east without the contribution of the Bolsheviks which were, btw, constitutive of Petrograd's democratic majority. The Bolsheviks held so much popular favor that the provisional government had to release the Bolshevik Siberian exiles.

Stalinism is another beast altogether. Does a project intended toward communism deserve the title of existent communism? This is an historical discussion. What is not up for debate is whether or not China is even attempting a communist project in the slightest. They are not.

>>10777592
>doesn't know the popular terrorist organization, MSF

>>10777029
Trotskyist pls, Trotsky was infinitely more blood thirsty than Stalin. Revolution is fine but it should be done by the local people, not states. I know the "local people" might be difficult to define, but it's certainly not an external war machine from a different culture like Trotsky wanted.

>>10777317
Collectivism as it is properly so called only takes place under democratic motivation. DPRK is not a collectivist body because it's drive is not collectively determined. An Athenian slave society isn't "collectivist" simply because it's units are all directed to a single end.

>>10778235
I'm going to focus on your single end bud

>>10776926
Die you fat american scum

I gotta give it to them.

Ba i g letters seems much more effective tha i dividual books.

I wo der what letter is ext?

>>10776815
NNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIGGGGGGGEEEEER

>>10776923
Reminds me of how the Greek government banned the letter "Z."

>>10776815
/lit/ should ban the matrix because it tries to redpill people

>>10778468
I thik you mea
>IIIIIGGGGGGGEEEEER

>>10777007

>>10776999
xi ji pig?
is he related to peppa pig?

>>10776947
What Lenin implemented

>>10776928
>Dont read orwell
>not stop reading orwell

One fucking job, anon

>>10777865
Are you dumb? The point of STEM is so that we can make china and factory worker retards like you obsolete

>>10776939
>tied to Government officials at some level?

Communism can't be corrupt.

>>10777527
>>10777527
lmao

>tfw you teach English to kids in China online as a job
>guess the alphabet is 25 letters now, kids

It’s banned from search engines you dumb twats, not from existence.

>bans the letter N

>>10779144
lol tard

>>10776928
> Don't read Orwell
Orwhat?

>>10777865
O B S E S S E D

Communism is evil.

What is this Sesame Street 451?

1984 is the Harry Potter of ________

>>10779252
ass

>>10777615
Oh come on you faggot. He was an AQAP external operations planner operating out of Yemen.
Let’s not be fucking dense here.

>>10776960
Nice floor.

>>10776815
so what? atleast their not fascist like drumpf

>>10779847
i don't care if blasted some jihadi douche, i just get sick of people pretending obama wasn't a total cia tool

What did N ever do to slit eyes?

post poems you made without the letter *

>>10776819
it is though, ideologically, and economically capitalist

>>10778504
Fucki g kek, good work A o

>>10776815
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>>10777592
so did Putler and Ass-ad
>>10777877
based patrician
>>10779252
>the internet isn't more real than the real
not gonna make it this century
>>10779645
China is state capitalist with socialist elements, it hasn't been State Socialist since Deng took over and Nixon opened up the East

>>10776815
Which books should China ban next?

>>10780658

>>10779162
Are you legit retarded??????

Fucking read more, faggot.

Anyone who thinks communism is an idea worth exploring, wroth implementing, without actually thinking about what human nature is like, are among the most braindead of the population; taught all this by the corporate-run schools, which claim otherwise, and gets all their dumb students believing they're not of the the bourgeoisie.

>>10776815
>'Disagree' (不同意)
Do they have to say ungood or something now

>>10780676
communism is never advocated as moral or useful in school, went to an elite lib pub hs and it was mocked endlessly or referred to disdainfully, in college thus far there’s only been suspicion and the kind of distancing admiration that the rw shows towards feudalism. there’s no one advocating economic marxism at all.