/lit/ - Literature

>>10784567

>Student A reads YA and genre shit
>Student B reads middlebrow bestsellers
>Student C reads poetry and classic literature

Student C > Student B > Student A

>>10784585
>muh quality over quantity
How about, pleb... listen to me... try to understand... Student A reads quality literature? Wow.

>>10784595
If he read quality he would go insane

>>10784585
This, of course the best answer would be something like 2 hours of quality literature, 2 hours of studying a new language, and an hour of poetry.

>>10784605
>reading quality literature for 30 minutes a day drives you insane
The absolute state of this board.

>>10784585
one minute of poetry and classic literature a day, right, that's useful.

what're your reading plans for March? "I thought I'd start reading Ulysses because I'd like to have finished it by the end of 2021."

ridiculous.

>>10784619
Because he would see how shit books have become, and his pursuit of decent literature will only result in dissatisfaction of the thing he reads, where in he will either crumble and conform to pleb tastes or die of mental starvation

>>10784619

This would explain a lot.

>>10784630
Or he could go pursue something else armed with the stronger mental faculties from reading like that in his youth.

Or maybe you're wrong and there's plenty of decent writing going on at present, not to mention the immense depths of quality literature already in existence that a child reading 30 minutes a day can scarcely scratch the surface of. Maybe you're actually either too uneducated or incurious to keep the ball rolling after an initial dalliance with literature.

Prole

>>10784652
Yeah okay, but wouldn’t it be fun to be insane?

>>10784630
there are more great books than you could possibly finish in a lifetime of reading half an hour a day.

>>10784670
plus also, you can profitably reread most or all of them.

>>10784619
It's not the time put in but the amount read. Breezing through a classic as if it were a Wikipedia article is not advisable.

>>10784680
>anyone who reads faster than me is skimming
>anyone who reads slower than me is dumb

>>10784567
>read
>drink water
>lift
>run
this is the key to life

>>10784693
I didn't say that, but the amount of people I've talked to about books we've both read that end up saying "yeah I didn't get that part but whatever lol" about simple things anybody could google is astounding.

>>10784718
Don't tell them the secret formula.

>>10784585
there you go, the old "time spent doesn't matter" response by people who read four books a year but they're good books so it's ok

>>10784791
Why not? Everyone should have access to the knowledge of how to attain happiness.

>>10784718
Replace second two with 'pursue creative/productive skill' and 'drugs' and you'd be dead on.

>>10784860
Add, don't replace. Keeping in shape makes you healthier and happier, anon. I don't think drugs belong on there, or if they do should be far more specific ones.

>>10784585
>Read 1 page of Homer a day
>Become Patrician

>>10784976
My drugs of choice:
Light use of marijuana
Cigarettes
Coffee

>>10784994
I would add occasional use of psychedelics

>>10784860
>>10784994

>>10784567
-HH
H-Heil to you t-too, Kamerad

>>10784976
Swimming and hiking are more fun than lifting, think if you're going to make being /fit/ a major part of your life it'd preferably be somewhere decent with fresh air, not a boring sweaty box

>>10785108
I'm not the anon who posted the original list, all I actually do is run and do calisthenics. I think if you keep yourself in good shape somehow that's sufficient.

>>10785078
>psychedelics
>not just having epilepsy
never gonna make it

>>10784841
Happiness isn't the key to life you mindless drone

>>10784609
>language
>not useless

Unless you are actively reading it or speaking it, learning language is 100% useless other than to say that you did it

>>10784567
will do, Humbert

>>10784567
>Student D listens to audiobooks and is able to absorb more content faster than the other 3 combined

>>10784567
>-HH
Humbert Humbert?

>>10785231
>Student D also can't spell any of these fancy new words they've learned

>>10785231
>Doesn't actually absorb material

>>10784994
>lift and cardio
>then smoke some cancer sticks
ISHYGDDT
Even caffeine should be kept to a minimum with barely any creamer and [/spoiler] no soy

>>10785204
>actively reading it or speaking it
I mean yeah that's the main purpose. You have access to a shit ton of new material now, you can read original works in that language, watch their tv, listen to their music, ect. Being able to understand more than one language feels great too, it feels like I have a lot more options for communication. You can speak with people that only speak that language, it opens up new relationship and travel opportunities. Learning a new language also teaches you a lot about language in general, I've learned so much about English structure and grammar from studying Spanish. It also taught me a lot about my learning style and enhanced my study skills. Not only that but there are studies that show learning a new language positively impacts the brain

>>10784567
180 minutes to read 8000 words?

Does reading threads on 4chan accrue to my total?

>>10784567
Student A’s reading rate comes out to 500 wpm while student C’s reading rate comes out to 44 wpm. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who reads 500 wpm even among the highly educated, much less someone who is in fucking elementary school and just learning how to read. I also think you would have to be mentally handicapped to only read 44 wpm.

>>10784585
>8000 words for an entire year.

You realize this is like 20 pages maximum, right? So it’s gonna take ~20 years to read one good 400 page novel.

>>10784626
>one minute of poetry and classic literature a day, right, that's useful.

Compared to a mountain of shit, it really is

>>10784619
>mfw read 4 or 5 hours a day
>just started Ulysses
am I going insane?

>>10785272
>mfw half a pack and a pot of coffee a day
no wonder I feel so shitty today

>>10784567

>>10785557
Yes.

Source: me

None of those pictures are remotely close to the respective word counts.

>>10785204
this is dumb. i learned german and im at a point where i can really engage in german culture through their film and news and literature and it's almost like i have a second home even though i've never been there. it's a comfy feel i highly recommend.

>>10784585

student A reads non-fiction and actually learns shit
student B reads fiction and learns nothing except what they get from fictional stories(that they forgot months later)
student C reads 4chan posts and not books

just look up girls on youtube with their fiction books. they look and sound like b students

>>10785204

>>10784626
Lmao Ulysses isn’t worth studying, just get a summary and some excerpts to get the gist of it.

>>10784567
Because of /lit/ I feel I need to learn all of philosophy before I read any book. Can I just jump into Dostoevsky for fuck's sake? No really, can I?

>>10787006
Yes, why not? You can just Google things you don't understand.

>>10787006
Maybe read the wikipedia article on his life (or the introduction to the novel of his you're reading, assuming it has one) but otherwise just dive in. You're not going to understand it fully the first time, but you'll get something out of it and life is long enough that you can reread it later in life when you're in a different life position.

>>10784567
>reading in breadth, not in depth
stay pleb

Something nobody on /lit seems to understand is those are aimed at people who don't read at all or read very little. If you are on /lit you probably aren't one of those people. There are diminishing returns from reading more and more so I bet many people here could benefit from reading less and doing other things more.

>>10787006
Notes from underground was mostly intrinsically understandable for me and I read it in Junior year on my own. Yeah I'm a fucking loser but at least I'm not a normie.

>>10787151
It's worth mentioning that Dosto is taught in high school in many places. If a person is willing to pay attention then his works shouldn't be very challenging

>>10787155
nothing is challenging if you just go through books like a retard, get a sense of the plot, and move on to the next whatever thing you have on your pile

>>10787148

>If you are on /lit you probably aren't one of those people
lmao

>>10787155
Teaching students to read certain books is fine and good, but most kids rush through them to make the grade. Having a personal desire to know the thoughts and stories of great men from times past and giving these books serious meditation is far more rewarding. It's a pity that the ambition to do such simply cannot be taught in school, it's something a person must desire.

>>10784718
Lifting is bad for you and a brisk walk is healthier than a run.

>>10788042
and 4 pounds of fruit a day

>>10788042
>Lifting is bad for you

Literally the complete opposite, please what do you get out of such a shit post?

>>10786429
Unless you're lying, how long did it take you, and how old are you?

>>10788042
post a picture of yourself with timestamp

>/lit/ tries to justify their stunted exposure to literature by going "b-b-but I read all the right books! It doesn't matter if I read only 20 of them!"
It's no wonder the posters on this board have awful grammar, vocabulary, and generally poor outlook on life. And what I find particularly laughable is how vain the posters here are about what they read. They take pride in their narrow spike into literature, as if the prestige of those titles will reflect back onto them. But why would it? You've displayed no great wisdom or insight or discernment by simply reading a short, curated list of titles that other people have picked out for you. What have you got to be proud of? All you've done is discovered a surefire path to intellectual mediocrity, where you simply follow consensus and scoff at people who do not do exactly the same as you. How are you any different than mindless bandwagoning teenagers jumping from fad to fad? What will you do if all the authors you've carefully selected for their prestige suddenly fall out of vogue or become discredited? Or does that concept seem utterly impossible to you because you've hinged your whole self esteem on the assumption they are "timeless"?

I beg you, please read more books. Get some perspective.

>>10788503
It took me nearly 3 years before I could watch a German film without subs comfortably. It took me about half that time to be able to read stuff by Hesse. It has been 4 years since I started, shortly after I graduated university and now I generally read at least one German book per month depending on length. I watch German films on the weekend, and I keep up with German news as well.

If I wasn't a poorfag I would move so I could work on my speech which still isn't that great. Anyway, my progress isn't remarkable by any means and most people could probably become fluent faster than me. Now since I can passively keep up my German by reading and watching TV I have started learning French. I suspect it won't take as long as German did.

>>10787123
Very true. If I need to look up the analysis of kino films or tv episodes, why not books

>>10787135
I have a tendency to read as if I'll never read it again (side effect of years of shitty "mostly memorizing" study habits). But I'll avoid that, and consider outside sources for background and analysis.

>>10788042
lifting isnt bad for you

>>10788511
This.

>>10784567
>ordered Arrian's Campaigns of Alexander
>got Camus' The Outsider instead
was it a happy accident /lit/? reading something else rn so i cant get into it much