/lit/ - Literature

>>11243474
100% agree with this. Joyce is my #1 GOAT, and Proust is #2

>>11243491
Stendhal is my #3

>>11243506
>Stendhal
>not Flaubert
*snap*

>>11243506
ok. ok. wow. just. ok. here are the true rankings, and I would go as far as saying that the rest of fiction as a whole is a waste of time, and you're better off reading poetry or watching TV instead of reading authors who are not in this list


SUPREME MASTER GOD TIER: THE MASTER OF ALL IN THE KINGDOM OF GREAT WRITERS IN HUMAN HISTORY, AT THE TOP OF THE HIGHEST TOWER, MASTURBATING 10-15 TIMES PER DAY, AS THE HAND WITH WHICH HE WRITES ARTISTIC MASTERPIECES IS MORE SEXUALLY APPEALING THAN ANY ADONIS THE GODS CAN CONJURE
>Joyce

VICE-SUPREME MASTER GOD TIER: THE ONLY WRITER DESERVING TO BE IN SAME ROOM AS THE SUPREME MASTER GOD
>Proust

GOD TIER: OCCUPYING THE MARBLE CASTLE WITH THE SUPREME AND VICE SUPREME MASTER GOD
>Tolstoy
>Homer
>Dante
>Dostoevsky
>Shakespeare
>Flaubert

ANGELIC DEMON TIER: PATROLLING THE CASTLE WALLS OF THE GOD TIERS AND ABOVE, AND DOING THEIR BIDDING ACROSS THE UNIVERSE, CAPTURING AND PILLAGING ENTIRE PLANETS TO TURN INTO PLANET-SIZED "THE MATRIX"-TYPE BODY HARVESTING FARMS, BUT THEY HARVEST HUMAN FARTS INSTEAD OF ELECTRICITY, PACKED IN DIAMOND JARS, FOR THE FART-LOVING JOYCE AND PROUST TO HOLD UP TO THEIR NOSES AND SHIFT THEIR NOSES LEFT AND RIGHT ALONG THE RIM OF THE JAR LIKE SNIFFING A FINE WINE, THEN TAKING A HUMONGOUS INHALE AND ACHIEVING UNFATHOMABLE ORGASM, "AH, A 2017 RUSSIAN LUMBERJACK FART, GOOD YEAR" THEY SAY, NODDING THEIR HEADS AT THE ANGELIC DEMONS WHO DO THEIR BIDDING, THE ANGELIC DEMONS' HEARTS FILLED WITH JOY AT THE HONOR OF SERVING THEIR MASTERS
>Goethe
>Kafka
>Chekhov
>Dickens
>Morrissey
>Nabakov
>Melville
>Milton
>Cervantes
>Hesse
>Ambrose motherfucking Bierce
>Borges

HONORABLE DRAGON WORK CREATURE TIER: THESE WRITERS' SOULS HAVE POSSESSED THE BODIES OF DRAGONS WITH LIME GREEN FUR AND FLORESCENT TIGER STRIPES WHO BREATHE GAMMA RAY BURSTS AND CIRCLE THE SUPREME MASTER GOD'S KINGDOM BY THE MILLIONS, AND OPERATE AS A HIVE MIND, AND HAVE BEEN GENETICALLY MODIFIED WITH TARDIGRADE DNA TO SURVIVE IN SPACE AND EVEN BLACK HOLES, TO HONOR WORKS THAT I ENJOYED PERSONALLY BUT THAT MAY NOT BE AS JUSTIFIED ON AN ARTISTIC LEVEL BY CONSENSUS
>Pynchon
>Hemingway
>Foster Wallace
>Woolf
>George Eliot
>Balzac
>Roald Dahl

>>11243565
You aren't funny and I hope you are a victim in the next school shooting.

Shakespeare better

>>11243678
actually I think it was funny

>>11243565
I laughed but the fact you haven't put Mann next to Hesse means you haven't actually read Hesse and this is a list you have compiled due to memes

>>11243565
It doesnt make any fucking sense if proust isnt the #1 you fucking newfag idiot destroyer of pasta
I hate you

>>11243734
Mann and Hesse are both crap

>>11243565
Nice rankings

>>11243787
hey fuck you. literally fuck your own mother. i am the original creator of this copypasta you fucking faggot. and i will edit it any way i fucking want. now go stick your 3 inch dick in a fire ant hill

>>11243565
notbad.jpg

how is this irish fuck the pinnacle of literature?

>>11243474
OP, I must know, what passages from Ulysses convinced you he was the GOAT and not a hack?

>>11244072
The one where the jew wanks

>>11244084
Really?

>>11244091
Yes, its perfect.

>>11243565
>Morrissey
Umm who? Isn't he a singer? I can't find any other person with this name that is a well known author.

>>11244217
yes, the best song lyricist of all time
and he's got a top tier autobio & novel

>>11243474
he had >140 iq and was hermetically inclined w/dionysian tendencies. all genius is dionysian or apollonian and must be hermetically inclined

>>11244242
>hermetically inclined
What did you mean by this?

>>11244242
>all genius is dionysian or apollonian and must be hermetically inclined
oy that's a pretty interesting statement
can you explain more what you mean by that, at least insofar as hermetic inclinations being a necessity

>>11244242
there is little difference between the dyonisian and apollonian, study more mythology you fucking cretin

>>11244233
>yes, the best song lyricist of all time

not close to the best rappers, even in terms of literary references.

>>11243565
>no Faulkner
Yikes

>>11244373
>rappers
please kill yourself

>>11244242
Dionysian tendencies is a good point. Ulysses and FW — Dionysian is a good way to describe them.

>>11244242
>tfw mercurial

>>11243565
>Hemingway not in Angelic Demon Tier at the very least.
You fucked up

>>11244602
>hemingshit anywhere at all
he fucked up indeed

>>11244487
not an argument

>>11244624
You're missing out anon

>>11244668
neither is "not close"

>>11244732
yeah someone so milky they think morrisey is the best lyricist is not going to be swayed to think rappers are more lyrical.

>>11244768
or you can just give a real reason my swarthy niglet brethren

>>11244787
There's a rapper who wrote 10k bars, it's over 1 hour long and has occult / literary references then you got people like Aesop Rock and Eyedea (both white, if you care that much) who are great writers. Check out Lil Ugly Mane oblivion access too.

>>11244857
>aesop rock
>eyedea
how did i know you were going to cite these 2 basedboys
i was holding out hope you'd BLACK me up and go illogic or saul williams or aceyalone or even kool keith
length/literary references = signification, false sign-exchanges, not real talent or lyric writing you redditsmacked madman
unfortunately it's clear ure a brainlet; none of those rappers are even better than young thug, wayne or liluzi
plz come back when you have better respect for the craft you purport houses better writers than moz (lmao)

>>11244889
>basedboys
lul i 4got this was a thing
s o y b o y c r a c k e r a s s c r a c k e r s ***

>>11244889
length is certainly a signification. do you realise how difficult it is to write a rap? plus, i mentioned literary references for good reason, i never said it was a metric for talent. canibus is still the greatest

>>11244889
Metaphors are metallic millenium machinations
Of magnificent imagination
The magnum opus of the master Mason meditatin'
Mitigatin' emotion magnifyin' patience
Preparing for the moment when I pilot this spaceship
Transfigured emotions emulate modern and mediocre man's
Mistakes or misnomers
And there are many more mistakes to make
Matter of fact, from now on, all memos must mention
My lyrical law mandate startin' with the sideways 8 shape
I swear for the sake of the Great Saint

>>11244934
>canibus is still the greatest
imagine being this much of a subhuman, stanning a notepadder
IT'S CANIBUS THE RHYME ANALYST
no, it is not difficult to write discursive multisyllabic schemes devoid of poetry (the only good rap is melodic & aggrandizing); even if it were, elizabeth fraser has "literary" rappers destroyed on at least 10 levels on that very front. canibus, aesop rock, late lupe and all "smart" rap is for retarded whitebois too dumb to get into actual poetry
fortunately for us moz anticipates your ilk and prescribes a remedy:
>Sing your life; any fool can think of words that rhyme!
god it feels so great being right
>>11244973
this is the dumbest thing ive ever read
you'd have convinced me more with playboi carti

>>11244985
oh yah and still kill yourself plz

>>11244985
>>11244991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDPuaFOidE

>>11244985
>it is not difficult to write discursive multisyllabic schemes devoid of poetry

You can't make statements like this because 1) You haven't shown that you can do it 2) Mutlsyllabic schemes are the most pleasant and difficult to write, especially combined with poetic fervour. Canibus is better than most poets

>>11244985
>elizabeth fraser
how?

>>11244995
>>11245004
>canibus stans unironically think he's anything but a 12 IQ shouter bereft of musical or poetic merit
the absolute state of /lit/
don't you have a hiphop reddit you can go to impress your other 16 year old white friends

>>11245015
her idioglossia is infinitely more pretty than every "serious literary rap references bro" song ever

>>11245018
Canibus is a top 5 poet in human history. You haven't looked at his work enough. He's wrote about the occult, aliens and captivated human emotion to a Shakespearean degree
>>11245026
Like what?

>>11244985
Poetry and rap operate on different levels. The first operates first on the level of the written word. The second operates first on the level of spoken word. Comparing the two in the manner that you did doesn't make any sense, nor does any kind of absolute dichotomy between the two (i.e. if you enjoy one you can't enjoy the other, if you enjoy one is because you can't enjoy the other). Your usage of terms such as "destroyed" and "whitebois" and your appeal to questionable authorities are indicative of a juvenile mind.

>>11243565
based

>>11245033
>>11245035

>>11244973
lmao

>>11245026
Fraser sees making music as inseparable from her emotions. She has always struggled to write lyrics, she says, but suddenly something will click and she "goes with the sound and the joy" – that's why she sings sounds and words that have no meaning, of which she can only make sense later. As she puts it, "I can't act. I can't lie."

top k e k

>>11245035
.The first operates first on the level of the written word. The second operates first on the level of spoken word.

You assume that, but no. Although rap is an oral art, it can be read pretty well, take Nabokov pale fire for instance.

>>11245045
I wasn't even defending rap, just pointing out the pretentious retardation of that other poster, but nice self portrait you got there.

>>11244563
>tfw venusian

>>11245060
you clearly havent traced the discussion and because of that severely misread the post kiddo
"appeal to questionable authorities"? this entire segment's cynosure is the superiority of moz you ignorant, soft faggot
you wanted to make a point about the nature of rap and poetry; no one is arguing about the nature of rap or poetry, only that morrissey is superior to this absolute garbage lmao:
>11244973
your post is the equivalent of, "i'm smart and i wanna make a point too!" sit down while the adults are speaking mr. linguistic propriety-bot

>>11245059
ah yes, who can forget lil' nabby's superlative "pale fire" lp

>>11244563
Isn’t that just an equivalent to hermetic?

>>11245078
Once again empty rhetoric with no argumentation, my point is relevant and I have read the discussion. Call me when you have developed a functioning frontal cortex.

>>11244242
>>11244547
>>11244547
>>11244284
>>11244274
>dyonisian
>apollonian

go back to /his/ with this brainlettery

>>11245078
morrissey is not superior though, it's just feminine emotional babble that someone like yourself would be into. only because you don't understand philosophy and poetry doesn't mean morrisey is in that category just because he appeals to your emotions lmfao

>>11245098
it's not my fault you can't parse anything that demands an IQ above 80
prolly why you like defending canibus and saying dumb shit with the veneer of "correct" argumentative language, a slippery pretension of the young & ignorant

>>11245033
All those alien lines really make ya feel something? Woah...

>>11245126
>>>/r9k/

>>11245126
METAPHORS ARE METALLIC MILLENIUM MACHINATIONS

>>11245120
dyonisian and apollonian are definitely interesting and good categories to employ, but they do get misused a lot because most people aren't familiar with the superior scholarship on the topic (Colli, Kereniy) and only know about the Nietzschean interpretation.

>>11245142
I SAID GO BACK

>>11245033
>captivated human emotion to a Shakespearean degree
>canibus

>>11245131
>prolly why you like defending canibus
I already told you that I wasn't defending rap, only pointing out your juvenile retardation. You can't even read.
>argumentative language, a slippery pretension of the young & ignorant
>no u
Sure is summer in here

>>11245153
>I SAID I WASNT DEFENDING RAP IN THE POST WHERE I WAS DEFENDING RAP!!!!
your usage of such memetic signifiers as "no u" and "sure is summer" and your very questionable appeals to intellect are indicative of a thoroughly degenerate spirit; i pray you've more prudence with words in days hence.

>>11245173
>i pray you've more prudence with words in days hence.

>>11245173
You can parrot me, congrats. And I have no interest in defending rap since I don't even listen to it.

>>11245187
hey baby let's love each other tell me what music you like

>>11244973
>>11245033
Is this parody?

>>11243565
I like the creative titles in your list, dear anon

>>11245033
>He's wrote about the occult, aliens and captivated human emotion to a Shakespearean degree
not the anon you're arguing with but you should very seriously and conscientiously consider suicide

>>11243565
You forgot Jordan Peterson

>>11243565
>Roald Dahl

I'll accept this