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>> No.11379605

>>11379600
that chart looks hard and i don’t understand math, sorry

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>> No.11379616

>>11379610
evola is a fucking pseud

>> No.11379617

>>11379605
If you read those books you'd be on par with an advanced high schooler

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>> No.11379646

>>11379603
City of Glass is a pretty good entry point IMO.

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dump finished, tired of solving this tired ass captcha

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>>11379741
very intredasting addition. Have you read any of those?

>> No.11379769

>>11379758
A few but some are hard to find.

>> No.11379775

>>11379689
>Murilo Rubião

I didn't expect for this pearl here.

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>>11379741
fucking hell, those books don't exist

>> No.11379821

Is there a poetry chart out there?

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does anyone knows what happened to this chart? was it ever finished?

>> No.11379914

>>11379741
i cant find anything about internet dreams...

>> No.11379926

>>11379914
see >>11379782
most of those ""books"" don't exist, they are just random ass stock photos with a made up name, like top right one, dances of wormwood, midnight rain...

>> No.11379939

>>11379926
the second one exists,i've read it.
that's what made me search for the others as well

damn it, internet dreams looked cool

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>>11379905
Save it my friend, it's all yours.

>> No.11379981

>>11379939
what second one?

>>11379961
oh, nice. Thanks, Lori.
I watched the progress of the chart, and actually voted, but didn't see the final product for some reason

>> No.11380090

>>11379756
can anyone tell me what is this one about?

>> No.11381425

Anyone have a chart of short books, averaging around 100 pages (e.g. The Fall by Camus)?

>> No.11381436

>>11379603
Foucalt's Pendulum is fantastic and it isn't really that hard a read - doesn't really deserve to be marked "long and difficult".

>> No.11381492

>>11379684
What actually defines those under fiction as being Christian? Allegory or parallels to christian beliefs & narratives?

>> No.11381501

>>11381492
(excluding those that are obviously explicitly deal with christian subject matter of course)

>> No.11381831

>>11381501
most of those that aren't obviously christian works like divine comedy or paradise lost were written by christian/catholic authors. Like tolkien's silmarillion, its very strong on allegories with the bible, and has characters whose life that can't but be compared to that of jesus and lucifer. Narnia too, is very strong not only on christian themes but also greek mythology, although lewis wrote
>"Some people seem to think that I began by asking myself how I could say something about Christianity to children; then fixed on the fairy tale as an instrument, then collected information about child psychology and decided what age group I’d write for; then drew up a list of basic Christian truths and hammered out 'allegories' to embody them. This is all pure moonshine. I couldn’t write in that way. It all began with images; a faun carrying an umbrella, a queen on a sledge, a magnificent lion. At first there wasn't anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord"

>> No.11381860

>>11379662
South of the border west of the sun is shit

>> No.11381940

Bump

>> No.11381987

Bumpy

>> No.11382131

something on historical fiction?
i feel like reading something less demanding, but engaging

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>> No.11382619

>>11379600
i’ve half-wondered what it would take for me to work on my mathematics knowledge, mostly gone to fallow since secondary school. i don’t think i am so much ‘bad at maths’ as i am profoundly ignorant

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this chart needs a novel column

>> No.11382640

>>11381425
Anyone?

>> No.11382646

>>11382640
novella charts in sticky

>> No.11382667

>>11381860
they're all shit

>> No.11382668

>>11379637
Is it even possibile to translate Gadda?

t. Pizzabro

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Every time I’m looking through a chart thread I get depressed
How do I cope with the fact that there are hundreds of books I want to read? There’s just not enough time to read that much, I’m barely scratching the surface

>> No.11382878

>>11379616
You can do better?

>> No.11382932

Does anyone have a chart on eastern philosophy? I have the Tao Te Ching and want to know if there are any recommended prerequisites.

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>>11382932

>> No.11383046

anyone got a guide to buddhism

>> No.11383078

>>11379741
>>11379741
Though this chart was likely intended to fool aspiring readers seeking radically mystical or experimental works, I find the half-formed ideas of books like Internet Dreams or Cypress Funeral pleasant to imagine. What would they be like? That there may be forgotten books, floating about in second-hand shops that describe the human condition in a subtle and unexpected way is quite a romantic image. I don't think any book could live up to the 'Internet Dreams' of my imagination.

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>>11382635
Can only think of Alfau for branching and Zettel's Traum & Proust for massive.
Any suggestions?

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>>11383158
Bumping with personal additions

>> No.11383525

>>11381436
It's long and if you miss 2 days of reading you come back pretty lost.Note the and/OR difficult.

>> No.11383531

>>11379600
Do those books give you problems to drill through? If you're not doing practice problems and proofs you'll forget everything once you close the book.

>> No.11383662

Chinese literature?

>> No.11383677

Post the city-state charts.

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>>11382640
>>11381425

>> No.11383841

Requesting Japanese lit

>> No.11383858

>>11379603
>man in the high castle
>difficult

dont think so

>> No.11383955

>>11379662
Murakami isn't a hack but I'd rather read a hack than read Murakami

>> No.11383971

>>11379758
>Keroauc in YA tier
Absolute pleb opinion of someone who hasn't actually read On The Road and certainly not any other of his books and puts him there because he's popular with edgy teens.

>> No.11383985

>>11379600
any1 have something else like this? ive been looking to get into mathematics

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hey.......anyone got the one on short story collections?

>> No.11384002

Anyone have the Cormac McCarthy one?

>> No.11384008

why are 99% of the books in these charts never discussed here?

can we have a /litgeneral/ perma thread for the discussion of actual literature?

>> No.11384025

>>11379603
>love a number of these books
>hate post-modernism in any other form of art or philosophy
I almost wish I could quit it, but there are quite a few great Post-Modern works.

>> No.11384038

>>11384008

unironic good idea

>> No.11384090

>>11384038
it works well for /sffg/

>> No.11384106

how to make a chart

>> No.11384120

>>11384008
>General threads
No way. Those always, always become circle-jerking piles of shit. Literature is such a large category, and even if we just count the books on the charts in this thread, so wide-spread/different, that the thread would be nothing but trash.

If you want to change the state of /lit/, just fucking post about those books yourself. Or post about specific genres, and maybe start the thread with a chart pic. Be the change you want to see on /lit/ and others will follow.

>> No.11384198

>>11384120
>be me
>start a thread about a work of literary fiction
>get 3 replies telling me its shit
>thread disappears off page 15

it would be better if people who actually read had a more condensed/specific place to congregate and discuss literature.
Right now anything /lit/ related gets swamped by "slide threads"

>> No.11384217

>>11384106
pls reply

>> No.11384583

>>11384217
>>11384106
literally mspaint.
copy cover of book, write name of author and name of book under it. add description if necessary.

>> No.11384709

bump good thread

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>>11384709
dumping once again

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>>11384766

>>11383985
only have this one

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>>11384792
thats it, I've exhausted my chart arsenal

>> No.11384887

anybody got a chart on poetry?

>> No.11384891

>>11384887
I think I have a text document of all the major poetry movements and groups sitting around somewhere if you want it.

>> No.11384905

>>11384891
i'd appreciate a lot if you could post it, anon

>> No.11385009

>>11379600
Can you guys check my list? I want to order it by folders instead of charts:

>Classic works
Philosophy https://pastebin.com/raw/sLTsKrPa
Politics https://pastebin.com/raw/R63krJre
Science https://pastebin.com/raw/NgmFMLYc

>Fiction
Drama (non-genre) https://pastebin.com/raw/mkh40Psi
Fantasy https://pastebin.com/raw/phnJcKM7
Science fiction https://pastebin.com/raw/xsG00eL1


I know is big, that is why a I want to make an "introduction" folder in each topic. In general I need to put each book under an appropriate folder. Can you help me?

>> No.11385053

>>11379669
Shit list, I can tell the author haven't read his books.

>> No.11385412

>>11383428
1st plates: glass bead game, magic mountain
3rd plates: kafka's castle
1st encrusting: journey to the end of the night

>> No.11385516

>>11385009
bump

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>>11385412
Added.

Anybody have any slightly obscure or less seen books on /lit/ for this? I added a few more I've read and would fit.

>> No.11386056

>>11379603
brainlet here
only read 2 books about pomo
why do academic leftists attract this so much?
feministst/intersectionalistst/SJWs in general
I mean, couldn't we just as easy have a right-wing Foucault interpretation?

>> No.11386062

>>11385807
i havent read it but a german recommended to me here Döblin's Berlin Alexanderplatz, its somewhat a german Ulysses. I have seen it mentioned here 1 or 2 times in years, aside from the recommendation. Probably not THAT obscure but I doubt many people here read it

>> No.11386092

>>11379603
>le man in le high castel
>post modern
Holy kek

>> No.11386101

>>11379669
Where On Hagakure? Pathetic

>> No.11386174

>>11386062
>>11385807
also, there is gibbon's decline and fall of the R.E. to go on massive

>> No.11386252

>>11382596
Please tell me there's a complementary piece on 'uplifiting or feel good' books

>> No.11386300

>>11386062
>>11386174
I've not read BA so i'm not sure where to add it, also I was sticking to novels. Rise and Fall of the R. E. is a good suggestion but I feel like it's Non-Fiction and the first book anybody recommends when you ask for good history books.

>> No.11386306

POST THE CITY-STATE CHARTS.

>> No.11386388

Any chart for french literature?

>> No.11386391

anyone have that one introduction to horror chart?

>> No.11386403

Any chart for Athurian stuff?

>> No.11386798

>>11385053
where would you suggest one to start with mishima?

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>>11386388

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>>11386391

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>>11386403

>> No.11387425

anyone have a comedy/humor one?

>> No.11387442

>>11387425
It's just a grid full of Tristram Shandy and then Don Quixote if you get bored.

>> No.11387763 [DELETED] 

Is there a horror list?

>> No.11387773

>>11386816
>No "The Great God Pan"
>Two Stephen King books
There's gotta be a better horror list.

>> No.11388059

any chart for art history?

>> No.11388449

I've been hearing a lot about Kant and materialism lately. Anyone have the philosophy one?

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>> No.11388757

>>11386798
Confessions of a Mask is the only relevant Mishima. Stay away from his non-fiction.

>> No.11389188

>>11388601
fuck, been looking for something like this for so long...thank you

>> No.11389203

>>11388757
cringe. do not be spurred to ressentiment by the pol hordes...

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>> No.11389227

>>11389203
You can bet people don't like Mishima because they read Sun and Steel. Pseud Mishima is worst Mishima.

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>> No.11389357

>>11389230
the absolute state of /pol/

>> No.11389360

>>11388757
Temple of the Golden Pavilion is incelcore

>> No.11389417

If I want to start reading and become a more whole person what's the first book I should read? The Bible?

>> No.11389502

>>11384763
ive seen a better

>>11389417
start w/ the aeneid, go through entire western canon, become a Brain Genius

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>> No.11389512

>>11389505
I know youve probably posted a lot of this shit.
Just wanted to say thank you anon. I appreciate it.

>> No.11389517

>>11389502
>>11389505
Thank you anons I really appreciate the help. I don't feel like I know too much about anything and I want to become more learned. I'll do my best to follow your advice

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>>11389417
The five books in this picture.

>>11389502
Why fiction instead of Plato and Aristotle?

>>11389505
I have to check this one.

>> No.11389928

Is there a guide to Arab/Islamic books?

>> No.11389947

>>11384776
i studied math and this approach to learning math is just ineffective and completely sadistic.

>> No.11390019

>>11389947
/sci/ in nutshell

>> No.11390415

>>11389505
>>11389512
>>11389517
>>11389652
see

>>11384786
its an extremely accurate and complete summary of the book, not worth the read if your only objective is reading literature.
If you want to also read academic texts or things like that, it MIGHT be worthy to read "how to read a book", but still, arguable.

>> No.11390428

>>11389928
Mohsin Mahdi is one path. Guenon another. Hossein Nasr yet another.

>> No.11390430

>>11379662
>>11379669
why follow someone's flow chart when you can just read the books chronologically and gain a better understanding of the author's work?

>> No.11390454

>>11389230
>>11389224
would it be necessary to read everything there before getting to industrial society and its future?

>> No.11390466

>>11390430
Because the books are shit and why read it when you can just take a dump and look at the toilet paper?

>> No.11390471

>>11386798
Don't bother with Mishima, is shit.

>> No.11390478

>>11379629
Cathedral and the bazaar is outdated and a waste of time. Skip that one. Also you're missing the mythical man month

>> No.11390507

>>11379600
Somebody have a chart for the American canon?

>> No.11390522

>>11379629
Cathedral and the Bazaar is cool, ignore the other post.

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>>11390507

>> No.11390741

>>11379758
thanks for posting that, it's so hard to find

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>> No.11390936

>>11390522
It's a fun read, but certainly nowhere near as useful and applicable as it used to be

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>>11390507

>> No.11391757

>>11379600
>anime
the fucking cringe

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>>11379758
>Tolkien has less substance than Steinbeck, Hemingway or Burroughs

What clown put this together

>> No.11391975

>>11386826
tyvm

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>>11390415 So I can skip reading this? What will I be losing and where should I go from here in terms of what book to read next?

>> No.11392423

Any charts to get started on non-fiction?

>> No.11392425

>>11392400
It’s far too wordy for me. All of his tips can be summarized by these rules
>Think more when reading
>Organize the content of what you’re reading, and think about it
>Work for such a good understanding that you could re-state the content in your own words

Everyone knows how to read well, they’re just lazy

>> No.11392482

>>11392425
Okay, thanks anon, I'll implement those strategies when reading

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Any charts on books about psychology?

>> No.11392910

Bump

>> No.11392915

continuing the /mu/ification of /lit/ here

hope to catch em all soon!!

>> No.11392977

>>11379603
>>11379637
>>11379653
>>11379662
>>11379669
>>11379689
>>11379692
>>11379758
>>11379741
>>11379851
>>11379905
>>11379961
>>11382596
>>11383746
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>>11385807
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>>11386816
>>11386826
>>11390766
>>11391547
thanks so much for sharing these useful and informative charts anons! my personal favourite is '100 novellas', a very useful image that i will be framing and hanging on my wall!

>> No.11393058

I've read Cities of the red night from Burroughs, what's next, Junky or NL?
Same with Mishima, read Confessions thus far and seen the Coppola movie, can I just watch Patriotism and get to Sun and steel?
I don't think am gay though, also I've read the Hagakure way before these.

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>>11393058
>reading Mishima
>not gay
Pick one and only one.

>> No.11393115

>>11393062
>cities of the red night
>a nearly continous orgy of teenage boys fucking each other, sweating, bleeding, and cumming everywhere
>'hard cock' has to be one of the most frequent phrases in the whole thing
>written by a drug user to top it off, all of the above are the textbook definitions of the so-called 'degenerate' behaviour
The books I claimed to have read, are probably the most depraved, immensely homosexual works of two well-known homosexual authors, that is the joke, yes. Problem is, you are too much of a philistine ass to even get your maymehys right.
There you go bucko, feel free to fuck off back to either of your containment boards any minute now.

>> No.11393129

>>11393115
No you, tryhard brainlets worshiping shit are the worst.

>> No.11393135

>>11393129
who said anything about worship??

>> No.11393147

>>11393115
What have you read from Mishima? I read Sun and Steel, wouldn't recommend.

>> No.11393164

>>11393147
just confessions

>> No.11393176

>>11393164
Yeah, don't look any further. Though, I got recommended The Temple of the Golden Pavilion by someone on /lit/, if I wanted incelcore.

>> No.11393200

>>11393176
Ty for the input mayne
>>11392686
This would also interest me too, wanna get into Lacan now

>> No.11393252

>>11379758
I remember there being a chart extremely similar to this, but for philosophers. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I've only seen it posted once

>> No.11393303

>>11379629
I own Design Patterns. Its a hard read. And I worry that most people who have studied these patterns misapply them against the better approach of simplicity.

>> No.11393330

>>11393303
design patters is a fucking meme, out of all of them like two are actually used, and everyone already knows them, yeah let me blow $40 on a hardcore textbook so i can discover what a singleton is

also, all that functional programming crap is so goofy, pure crap that amazes inexperienced people, "wow look how u can make a polish notation calculator in lisp in one line of code!" yeah ok now actually try writing something complex and maintainable, kys nerds

>> No.11393611

>>11379616
>Evola hurts my feelings and his resurgance in popularity in a self-destructive age that's rapidly falling apart scares me

>> No.11393641

>>11391547
lol

>> No.11393691

>>11393611
He is right though.

>> No.11393832

is there a chart about music theory and such?

>> No.11393957
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>> No.11394274

>>11379629
Why the boner for Haskell?
I'd also like to add "Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code " and "Antipatterns: Refactoring Software, Architectures, and Projects in Crisis"

>> No.11394360

>>11393330
Agreed.

>> No.11394437

>>11393832
i asked /lit/ about music theory they just told me to read Complete Musician

>> No.11394515

>>11379600
Any charts for capitalist pigs like myself?

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11394591

>>11394515
i just have this ancap one, in case it also interests you

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any crime/mystery charts ??

>> No.11394722

>>11392977
savage post

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11394734

>>11379610
Posting higher quality since the one posted is dogshit

>> No.11394794

>>11391547
>Trump -> Siege
I kek'd

>> No.11394953

>>11391547
This is freaking hilarious and I love whoever made this.

>> No.11395072

does anyone have the one on technoskepticism? I would greatly appreciate it

>> No.11396108

Bump

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>>11395072
I got you

>> No.11397196

Bump

>> No.11397212
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11397212

Would anyone be interested in a new version of Start With The Greeks? I've always thought the ones we have aren't that good but I don't know if anyone cares and if I should put the effort in. Anyways here's the barebones version I made.

>> No.11397228

>>11390466
t. brainlet

>> No.11397235

>>11379758
whoever made this is a huge pleb, and whoever posted it is even more of a brainlet than the creator

>> No.11397244

>>11384749
>no The Baphomet

figures, can't expect too much from you plebs

>> No.11397245

>>11397228
t. brainlet

>> No.11397250

>>11384752
not actually bad at all, want to kiss whoever made this

>> No.11397253

>>11384786
left to right
top to bottom

fuck off forever with this

>> No.11397548

>>11389947
>this approach to learning math is just ineffective and completely sadistic
and compulsory schooling isn't?

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11397624

>>11396496
This is what I came here for.
Thank you.

>> No.11398420

Bump

>> No.11398563

>>11379669
This is such a pointless thing. Mishima doesn't need one of these at all. You guys are making charts just to make them at this point.

>> No.11398567

>>11398563
Sun and Steel is referenced to bodybuilding, that chart is a meme.

>> No.11398590

>>11397212
I want it

>> No.11398600

>>11384744
> the generation identity book
lmao that thing is written like I would have written a political treatise as an edgy 16 year old. The prose is fucking awful and it is the most basic bitch-tier shit imaginable for an identitarian book. Whoever made this chart probably hasn't even read it or has such shit taste he's too retarded to be allowed to read things at all

>> No.11398604

>>11398600
Agree, only the first half is good.

>> No.11399284

>>11396496
just like the other anon, this is what I came here for <3

>> No.11399733

Anyone have the general non-fiction chart?

>> No.11400068
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>>11394591
A couple of remarks:
>Refutation of Keynes' General Theory
"The Failure of the New Economics" by Hazlitt is exactly that. Human Action probably works just as well, but Hazlitt's work is much more approachable.

>Ayn Rand
Most of her work is fiction, written in a pedestrian tone. If you've finished high school, there is nothing to enjoy. As for her nonfiction, she's basically a pseud with a cult. I would swap her out for a more influential liberal like J.S. Mill or Herbert Spencer, or even an early anarchist like Benjamin Tucker.

>Strategy & Tactics
Agorist Primer and Crypto-Anarchy were written by left-libertarians. That doesn't mean you can't read them, but their association with the Mises-Rothbard school of thought is loose.

>Heli Pilot's Handbook
Lol

>Difficulty Levels
Pretty much everything on this list (as well as pic related) is readable independent of one another, so you could ignore the order. The only exception is that Hayek's style is a great deal drier and denser than everyone else, but there really aren't any "prerequisites" to understanding him.
Also, some of these works are incredibly long. That edition of Man, Economy, and State is 1369 pages long, ignoring the index, bibliography, etc.

>> No.11400623

>>11379758
>Dostoy above Tolstoy
?????

>> No.11400647

>>11397212
Get rid of the plays in the Heroic Age section outside of the Theban plays, Herakles, and Agamemnon and include the summary of the 6 lost epics that is attributed to Proclus (just google "Epic Cycle fragments" or "Epic cycle summaries Proclus"). That would include the events leading up to the Trojan War and the first 9 year of it, the events between Illiad and Odyssey (Ethiopian and Amazon armies arrive, Achilles' death, Paris' death, Trojan horse, sack of Troy, return to Greece), and the final epic which recounts the death of Odysseus. It's a really short read and gives context for most of Euripides' and Sophocles' plays. An alternative is Posthomerica, also titled The Fall of Troy, by Quintus Smyrnaeus (lived around 200 AD so definitely Hellenic/Roman). It takes the 4 lost epics that go between Illiad and Odyssey and distills them down into 1 fan fiction poem. The writing nearly isn't as good as Homer but if you're a plotfag it's essential. The only event it doesn't cover that the epics cover (as far as we known) is the death of Agamemnon but Aeschylus' play would cover that.
t. was actually working on the exact same guide earlier today

>> No.11401084

Bump

>> No.11401086

>>11384025
t. peterson daddyite

>> No.11401269
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11401269

1. Requesting Suggested Sexual Education reading material
>and/or
2. Suggested anything science related. I have this one, but I'd like something a little more specific. But, something as broad would be just as fine.

I'll post twice as much as I can in exchange until I run out, if that be the case.

>> No.11401312

>>11384887
>>11379821
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/e/ee/Pchart.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171110124917

>> No.11401905

>>11382778
If you read 50 pages a day that is 18250 pages a year. Assuming the average book length is 300 pages, that's 60 books every year.

>> No.11402027

>>11381492
Lame pasta, anon.

>> No.11402513

>>11379758
Woolf lower than Pynchon? What was the rationale here? I have not read much Woolf but besides her usage of similes and symbols the books are pretty straightforward

>> No.11403159

>>11394607
Would Johnny Got His Gun be a suitable edition to this chart? Reading that made me feel pretty shitty.

>> No.11403316

>>11401086
>implying you have to be into Peterson to hate Post-Modernism
I've never read his books or watched anything other than an ad that included him. I just can't stand what Pomo did to art/politics/etc.

>> No.11404423

Bump

>> No.11404865

Anyone have charts for scientific fields? I'm looking for a biology chart specifically.

>> No.11405428

>>11379600
I suppose some of those are neat but high school level logic knowledge (at least we have that subject for a year here) and math knowledge is enough to start reading up on sets, basic operations, limit, continuous functions, derivations and so on.

>> No.11405437

>>11379600
Anyone got this but for programming?

>> No.11405892

>>11401312
Anyone have rhyme's reason?

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11405951

Does Nick Land have any original thoughts?

>> No.11406854

>>11384792
What is this exactly? General philosophy?

>> No.11407501

>>11405951
As much as it's possible to have original thoughts; sure, but you aren't supposed to read Nick Land for orginal thought. You're supposed to read him for fun.

>> No.11408733

bump

>> No.11409292

Any list for the essential Rene Guenon?

>> No.11409855

>>11409292
i second this request.

>> No.11409897

>>11406854
yes

>> No.11410415

>>11397253
this is bad advice for an arabic book

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>>11388449

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>>11397212
Ok, here's my baby tier progress on this chart. This is basically everything related to Agamemnon and Homer, don't have access to my uni's library to make more research on the other tragedies to make a decent "cycle" on the other heroes. Will make a list of what Oxford's History chapters relate to each period and what lessons of Yale's course are relevant but other than that it actually looks pretty finished. I tried to use the least amount of non-greek authors as possible but I don't know if I should include secondary lit. Pls comment on this

>> No.11410810

Anything on russian literature?
I read some dostoevskij (brothers karamazov, crime and punishment, the gambler, the idiot) and dead souls by gogol which really blew my mind.
Is there a suggested path to enjoy this wonderful world in the best way possible?

>> No.11410833 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.11410865

>>11384106
You need to wish it into existence. You need to visualize your chart and believe in it and yourself as hard as you can. If you can do it hard enough for about 5 minutes it will appear on your desktop. It's that easy.

>> No.11410891 [DELETED] 

8ch dot net/litpat/res/181.html

This thread is a massive dump of charts, feel free to dl and share (and please post if you have charts that are not already there)

>> No.11411088

>>11410891
Fuck off shill.

>> No.11411412

>>11379684
>The Stars My Destination
A great novel, but what's Christian about it?

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>>11410810

>> No.11411476

>>11379603
Desu I think 2666 is actually a good entry point. I’m flying through it

>> No.11411816

>>11411473
Russian literature is so pure
You can feel so much how the country slowly spiralled downwards. When you look at the big picture, it's actually a bit depressing
I wish I could read russian to enjoy it even more

>> No.11411864

>>11380090
Seconding this. I'm also curious.

>> No.11411872

>>11409855

>> No.11411890

>>11387425
Read a confederacy of dunces

>> No.11412125

Any charts with female authors? I'd like to try reading something from a different perspective.

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>>11412125
got you

>> No.11412192

>>11412158
Nice, thanks

>> No.11412411

>>11379653

Hispanic literature would be much more fitting as a title. It'd be ridiculous to make a chart titled "English Literature" that includes David Foster Wallace and James Joyce. Hell, most of the writers on the list are Latin American, might as well remove the two or three that are Spanish.

>> No.11412618

>>11379600
Are there any charts on Islam?

>> No.11413154

>>11412618
Take a shit and wipe your ass. Now look at the tissue. Hope it helps.

>> No.11413172

>>11394607
I surprised this took as long as it did to get posted.

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>>11412618

>> No.11413326

>>11405437
programming principles and practice using c++ - Bjarne Stroustrup
C++ Primer - Stanley B. Lippman, Josée Lajoie

(optional and more of a reference book) The C Programming Language - Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan

from this point you should just go to the /g/ or the /sci/ wiki and just see what is recommended. the art of computer programming is also apparently a must read but I haven't opened it yet

>> No.11413621

>>11411473
Is this the Dark Souls of books?

>> No.11413644

>>11410608
Is this supposed to be a "Start with the Greeks" flowchart?

>> No.11413665

Anyone got a chart on books that argue for atheism or at least against the existence of a god? I know its not the most popular subject at the moment but if I can't get any good recommendations I'm just going to read The God Delusion and call it a day.

>> No.11413783

>>11413665
There literally aren't any

>> No.11414361

>>11389224
do you have part 2?

>> No.11414512

>>11413644
See
>>11397212

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>>11397212
Ok retards, here's the final version of my selection of books, gonna add in some secondary lit, make it look prettier and I'll be done.

>> No.11415103

>>11386826
>no Lawhead

>> No.11415233

>>11393303
>>11393330
>>11394360
The thing about design patterns is that people study them with the mindset of using the actual pattern anywhere they can cause they think that's good, which leads to they misusing them everywhere and it's awful.
I think studying design patterns was one of the things that most improved how good I am as a software developer, but the real value is learning the concepts behind them and why they are used, you can apply that kind of thing everyday without applying the patterns themselves.

>functional programming crap is so goofy
>yeah ok now actually try writing something complex and maintainable
I've worked for the last 3 years in a company that uses pretty much only functional programming (veery few exceptions), the systems are complex af and tbqh is the most maintainable thing I've ever worked with :)
FP is a bliss, I actually dread the thought of having to work again with procedural/OOP.
I think virtually everyone that works there (which is quite a lot of people) worked with that before and agrees with me.
It's far from "wow look how u can make a polish notation calculator in lisp in one line of code!", usually doing that makes your code contrived and hard to read desu. The thing is that the code is usually so much easier to understand and debug that it's a bliss (not to mention bugs tend to indeed happen way less). That whole "omg idk what is this shit lemme google the stack trace and see if someone in stack overflow has any clue" development cycle that is common working with so many languages seems to just disappear when you are working with FP.
Also the code is usually just waay more elegant. I know it sounds like pretentious nerd shit, but it's true. Think about the feeling of learning ruby or python after being a PHP kid and then having to deal with PHP again, it's sort of that.

>> No.11415279

>>11401905
which is a little more than half the first of the hundreds
but I'm sure you meant well

>> No.11415302

>>11415279
listening to audiobooks could bump the number up a bit too desu

>> No.11415731

>>11400068
>>11394591
Why the hell is Novice before Beginner?
Shouldn't you go from Beginner to Novice?
Why are ancaps so dumb??

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>>11413172

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>> No.11416195

>>11387425

Unironically only greentext memes make me laugh these days. Literally. But I've always had trouble detecting humor in literature; supposedly "Lolita" is very funny, for instance, and I hadn't even realized that before I read some literary criticism about the book.

>> No.11416206

>>11397624

That Mr Robot main actor could play him in a film

>> No.11416660

>>11415279

Then take two years, you mong. Then again, the fact that you’re complaining instead of being tactical means you don’t have much ability to make plan and commit to it. Thus, his advice is lost on you.

>> No.11416685

>>11379756
best chart itt
deep lore

>> No.11416769

>>11390454
If you have never been on /pol/, yes. If not, then you're probably acquainted at least fundamentally with the principles tackled. For instance, I skipped the entirety of the reactionary path and read The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times. I spent a lot of time stopping and thinking and analyzing sentences to derive the meaning, so perhaps it would have helped to read what was prescribed. Nonetheless, I had spent a year on /pol/ at that time so I was somewhat familiar with the logos of reactionaries.

>> No.11417811

>>11379616
t. never read evola

>> No.11417832

>>11389357
Heil Reich!

>> No.11417851

>>11416191
thank god

>> No.11417856

>>11415731
novice = new to a field
beginner = someone who has started learning

>> No.11417859

>>11416660
I'm not complaining and I don't need to "make a plan and stick to it" cause I read because it's something I like doing.
The thing is that the advice is just shitty in the context of what >>11382778 said (which is something I relate a lot to).

It's not about "making the time to read" or "if you read x pages a day blablabla" or making a commitment.
>>11401905 the advice is indeed lost on me, because this is actually less than what I usually read.

This, however, still holds true:
>How do I cope with the fact that there are hundreds of books I want to read? There’s just not enough time to read that much, I’m barely scratching the surface
And I'm fairly sure I'll die not having read all the books I want to.

The sensible advice imo is that there's no coping with it, the only thing possible is acceptance.

>> No.11417973

>>11387773
Ive been looking for a long time on this board

Horror is a dead fucking genre and I dont understand why

>> No.11418403

>>11417973
>Horror is a dead fucking genre and I dont understand why
It's a real fucking shame, isn't it? I've considered it for a while, so here's why I figure it's so hard to find good horror stuff.

>Horror comes from the fear of the unknown
There's a reason the genre was so lively in the 19th century/early 20th century: there was still so much unknown. Horror fit well in the space between the ever-flourishing scientific changes in life and the "old ways", and in the gap between the last few "unknown" places/people and the last vestiges of empire, when you could have horror tales of people exploring pyramids or bringing back books from far off, dark places, etc. Nowadays we, as a society, feel that we know everything. Or that we know enough. Tie that with a lack of faith in anything religious or supernatural, and there's a lack of true "unknowns". The most that you can have now is slasher kinds of horror, or excessively violent horror, or maybe something medical, but ultimately the options are limited.

>"Fear" varies
Next to maybe comedy, there isn't much that's as varied and personal as fear. Happiness is easy to get audiences to empathize with, as is sorrow and, to a lesser extent, anger. But true fear is personal, making it harder to hit the right spots. People like to meme on Lovecraft's constant use of leaving so much to the imagination by writing around a lot of his horror, but he had the right idea, in a sense.

>Horror is genuine
In this post-modern, cynical, self-aware world, letting yourself feel horrified - or writing to truly scare - is difficult to get across. There's a lack of the drive behind a lot of pulpy horror people got lost in, as I see it.

I don't think the genre is as dead as you think, but it's harder to find. There are some smaller publishers focusing on it (Dark House Press comes to mind) and writers like Ligotti still working. Just stay away from King and King-inspired shit.

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>> No.11420429

>>11380090
Looking at the pic title
>Trimalchio is an arrogant former slave, who has become quite wealthy by tactics that most would find distasteful.

And the pic says:
>Slave - Lord

I would assume this is a /lit/ guide to freedom. At least mental freedom.

t. Anon who hasnt read any of those books

>> No.11420459

>>11379603
Sincerly thanks for the chart. I really need this.

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Thanks for all the charts, anons.

>> No.11420644

>>11414361
See >>11389230

>> No.11420681

>>11413294
>>11412158
>Female authors and books on Islam in the same thread
>No shitstorms
Coming back to /lit/ from other boards feels like a vacation.

>> No.11420754

Thanks for all the charts. By the way is there a meta chart?

>> No.11420786

>>11412158
I like this chart. If anybody is listening, and wants to make a slightly more comprehensive version, you should add:
Duong Thu Huong (Vietnam)
Svetlana Alexievich (Belarus)
Octavia E. Butler (USA)

And maybe Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie? Haven't actually read her work, but I hear a lot of people consider her works modern classics.

++ on the Eileen Chang though, she's hella underrated.

>> No.11422043

>>11379758
If this pic is supposed to be bait it succeeded in my case.

>>11414677
This is neat but completely unconnected to the actual development and logic of Greek writing. Methodically, it makes no sense to read Euripides and then Homer, as the development went the opposite way. Sophocles or Aeschylus (I forgot who exactly) said that his own writing is mere specks and remains of Homer's glorious feast. If you want to put all the mythological threads together it's better to just read a compilation such as Schwab's. Individual Greek texts are particular interpretations of those myths, shaped by the moment and the writer. Euripides' ethos is obviously and profoundly different from Aeschylus'.

>> No.11422073

>>11422043
>This is neat but completely unconnected to the actual development and logic of Greek writing. Methodically, it makes no sense to read Euripides and then Homer, as the development went the opposite way. Sophocles or Aeschylus (I forgot who exactly) said that his own writing is mere specks and remains of Homer's glorious feast. If you want to put all the mythological threads together it's better to just read a compilation such as Schwab's. Individual Greek texts are particular interpretations of those myths, shaped by the moment and the writer. Euripides' ethos is obviously and profoundly different from Aeschylus'.
Tbh I wanted to take an approach that progresivelly advanced from "reading for the plot", to actually engaging the author, that's why I tried making a thread that followed the myths at the beginning but changed that later on. Another thing I wanted is to try to include as many authors as possible in the beginning to introduce a potential new reader to as much new shit as possible to see if any specific author clicks with them. Does this make sense?

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anyone have a chart for entry into japanese literature? :)

>> No.11422994

>>11422401
there you go buddy :)
have a good one

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>>11422401
>>11422994
>.<

>> No.11423056

>>11379600
>>11382619
>>11383985
I want to improve my mathematics, as well. But, I'd basically have to start at a HS level. Which, I'm fine with. But, I don't think I can excel at my work until I get a scientific/mathematic methodology.
>>11405437
I would also like a chart for this.
>>11413326
Good advice. Not who you replied to. But, still useful info.

>> No.11423293
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baby's first existential crisis chart

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>>11423056
>>11405437
I just put this chart together.

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>>11423056
>>11405437

just made this chart with the best of intentions

hope it serves you and other anons well

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>>11423056
>>11405437

just made this chart with the best of intentions

hope it serves you and other anons well.

>> No.11423473

MORE /LIT/ BASED MATH AND SCIENCE CHARTS please and thank you.
:DDD

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>>11423473
all i got fren :D

>> No.11423552

>>11423539
I appreciate it anoon. Thank you :)
I'M GONNA BE THE BEST AT MATHS

>> No.11423555

>>11423431
>>11423539
Thanks, anon. But, for some reason, I keep gettin 404'd.

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>>11423552
WE'LL DO IT ANON
GOOD WEEKEND TO YOU =)

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>>11423559
YOU'RE THE BEST, MAN :,)
I WISH YOU A GOOD WEEKEND AS WELL

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>>11410810
Russian language learning guide

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>>11386391
>>11386816
>>11387773
>>11417973

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>> No.11424393

>>11424326
well this is nice. thanks

>> No.11424510

>>11384792
worth doing like this?

>> No.11424586

>>11389505
An introduction to English Grammar is $50

Creative & Critical Thinking is out of print

Classical Rhetoric is $110

zzz

>> No.11424745

>>11424586
Brainlet
Everything there can be bought used,some cheaper if you look for older editions.

>> No.11426400

Does anyone have the international bible translations chart?