/lit/ - Literature

>dude unreliable narrators lmao

didn't do anything for me, read the deep lore, not enough philosophical punch for the work you have to do (dude he's being manipulated into believing he's a messiah lmao), dropped it

>>11421442
>I haven't finished the story
>judge it nontheless
>oppose common praise with your lowbrow opinion as if you are justified
Who would have thought I frogposter didn't want to put in work to reap rewards?
>>11421449
As for you, the unreliable narrator is just the device through which Gene Wolfe worked, it is not in itself the basis for its critical acclaim. And to be honest, your type of just blatantly dismissing the book using the term has become a meme in its own right. The work has a myriad of different things that distinguish it from conventional sci-fi. But then again, you read the book, struggled and then read some online sources to get your quick fix, you could easily have been OP's brother.

>>11421514
nigga are you dense, do you think the 5 books came out at once? Of course not, as wolfe keep writing the sequels every book was judged o its own merit. Much like the original audience had to do, its only logical to pass judgement after having read each chapter, even tho we still might not know where it all leads.

>oppose common praise
the ultimate sin for someone as illuminated as you, I imagine.

>>11421545
You are the one that raised the issue by asking "Am I missing something?" in your original post. To which I pointed out how retarded your question is considering you haven't even finished the books. The whole essence of the story is to dumbfound you and lead you in total darkness until the end, whereupon arrival you realise that a single reading will not suffice, nor would one want it to. Just as any great classic cannot offer its full value at a single reading. But here you are, halfway through the series. You have officially been caught in Gene Wolfe's pleb filter, and instead of responding with humility you further display your intense ignorance by pointing a finger at the text.
So to answer your original question, yes, you are missing something. However, you are not he sort of person that will ever find it, so you might as well drop the book and continue on in your blissful ignorance and the high IQ I'm sure you got from some unreliable internet test.

>>11421545
Oh, and as for opposing common praise, which there is ofcourse nothing wrong with, under the condition of actually having educated yourself and formed a solid opinion, it has a very clear cut function: to draw attention to a piece and safe time as no-one could research each work they endeavor to read efficiently. I was by no means implying common praise equals quality, merely that there is something of value worth investigating. But when you don't "get it" and haughtily question the praise without even having made a fucking minimal effort, you are the sore thumb standing out.

>>11421577
>Dude lmao, the story is bad cause its a settup to subvert your expectations latter.

>>11421643
>Dude lmao, any story that challenges me mentally is bad cause its a setup to subvert my false conceived notion of mental superiority later

>>11421442
>>11420685
This is the containment thread. Please delete your thread on the way out.

>>11421672
>genre fiction
>mental challenge

yes, but only of the kind that gets diagnosed.

>>11421691
>"genre fiction"
>dealing with a book that is a clear outlier in its respective genre and doesn't really confirm to the conventional rules - hence why most people that read SF&F don't even like it

I don't think modern science is competent enough yet to diagnose what you have. But just like Anti-matter we know something is there we just can't detect it

>>11421577
This, and fucking checked.
I love the themes, the GW is certainly inspiring, i feel like there is some trial and error in his writing, but it only gets better.

>>11421449
Hello wikipedia

just read The Second Apocalypse

>>11421442
book of the new sun is basically a glorified 40k novel (and no far off from their standards of quality desu) )set up on one the colonies, were the past is blurred with mythology and they have borderline magic sci-fi stuff from their glorious pre decadence state past.