/lit/ - Literature

WHEN WILL THESE TALENTLESS, HORRIBLE, REPULSIVE NIGGER WHORES STOP STEALING ALL MY VENERABLE HUGO AWARDS NOMINATIONS... IN MY DAY ONLY TRUE POWERFUL WHITE MEN WHO HAD KILLED AT LEAST FIFTY NIGGERS AND WHO CLOSED-FIST ASSAULTED THEIR WIVES EVERY MORNING WERE ALLOWED TO WIN SUCH AN AWARD, AND NOW ITS GOOD NAME IS BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE DIRT

Oh and, gamer dudes, if you could help this three-in-a-row prize winning author replace white people on her video games, she would kinda appreciate it.

Oh and, white people, if ya'll could quit being so mediocre, us POC would kinda appreciate it.

Oh and, "white" people, if ya'll could just stop believing in "whiteness", us POC would kinda appreciate it.

Oh and, white writers, if ya'll could just stop reading your racist so-called "classics", us POC would kinda appreciate it.

I didn't know the same author winning three years in a row was diversity. Could be a great trilogy as far as I know.

>>11652502
Every single author shortlisted was female, now THAT is diversity brother!

*raises fist in solidarity*

Leftists deserve their subpar tracts.

>>11652473
This but unironically
/thread

Imagine actually reading science fiction.

Hasnt scifi always been leftist as fuck? What is this bitch talking about

>>11652479
Imagine having your skin color and faggot postmodern racial identity fetish THIS at the forefront of everything you think and do, everywhere you go, all the time

>>11652479
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>>11652501
Never read her work, but I literally can't imagine someone who writes like this being capable of good work, and I can imagine a lot

>>11652484
Twitter practically trains you to worship mediocrity. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything praised by the crowd which uses that site being any better.

>>11652479
It's a shame they took the pogroms out of Stardew Valley

>>11652473
This but unironically.

>tfw a conservative Hispanic who's seriously considering going the woke route just to break onto the literary scene
It's all a marketing scam

>>11652605
I cant really plane companies for doing it either. The demographic that responds to this stuff is probably lucrative as all hell.

>>11652462
Obviously this individuals politics were the correct brand wanted for such an award, but the question to be had is whether or not her book was actually good. If the novel was in fact decent, then ill be significant less assmad.

>>11652479
>ex-sundown town
what does that mean

>>11652501
>>11652491
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>>11652479
Ironically, this arrogant "diversity" nonsense just makes Stranger in a Strange Land more relevant

>>11652688
It used means they used to be racist (minorities had to leave by sundown) but they aren't anymore and she's still going to hold it against them.

The “awards” are more irrelevant than ever.

death to all jews

This bourgeois obsession on diversity, especially with regards to food and literature, is creepy. It's sort of like when porn addicts have to go for either more extreme or more specific porn in order to get off; white people have to go looking for newer voices and rummage through distinct cultures in search for something that excites them.

>see news about some literal who shitting out identity politics about diversity changing the world
>get mad for a second
>get back to reading timeless classics exploring the human condition written by white men
i went through the motions for you

It's science fiction who gives a shit

>>11652746
It is indicative of the power and control mass-media/social-media has these days if anything. It doesn't make classic sci-fi bad, its just gross and concerning to see. Everything is an pointless popularity contest, where money can be used to measure quality

>>11652742
I guess thats just the nu-metropolitan culture. So devoid of it it has to import as many "real" cultures as it can where it just becomes a mess of neoliberalism with some sprinkles of ethnic food. Sad state most urban areas especially in the us are in.

>>11652762
It's like someone celebrating a three time winner in some special olympics event, congratulations and all but you're still disabled.

>>11652484
>That shouldn't be a thing.

we've established a post-meritocratic culture where minorities are considered disadvantaged by nature of implicity and thus given handicap-like assistance regardless of whether or not they need or deserve it, which in turn only fuels the idea that they DO need it because they're inferior by nature

how funny is that

Given the absolute state of scifi these days there prob wasn't that much of a competition anyway.

>>11652545
Yes, but it used to be dominated by All-American lily white WASP Aryans (Jews mostly) and that was problematic.

why dont they create a new sci fi award instead of bitching about HUGOS being cucked leftist shit?
Who cares who won a fucking hugo anyway?

>>11653468
And there are many non-whites, like Roxane Gay, who are very priveleged yet still claim to be persecuted minorities. Roxane Gay attended one of the most expensive private schools in the US for example.

>>11652491
I'm not anti-black but I am anti-blackness, which seems to be the principle behind unprecedented crime waves in whichever community it dwells.

>>11653563
>just create your own internet bro

>>11653597
>creating an awards show is as difficult as inventing the internet

lel

>>11653468
the snap back wave of race realism will be beautiful and the best thing is that positive racism retards wont know what hit them
BUT WE MADE THEM MORE EQUAL!

I read her first book. What gets me about a lot of these authors is they self insert into the main character. Main character was black woman in rich white world. This is just bad writing and shows a lack of imagination. The same narcissism that turned the left into empty identity politics has long been destroying writing.

>>11653556

da fuck?????

WASP = white anglosaxon protestant. NO JEW fits into that category by definition


also if you know the word "aryan" how the fuck could a jew fit into that either? word was literally invented to seperate jews from "pure" whites.... you gotta be the biggest retard on this whole board

desu glad im a minority because ill probably be published while u white retards will post your shit on /lit/ critique threads

>>11653700
That's the joke. These leftist idiots are saying that science fiction was dominated by white men when in fact it has been the exclusive domain of the Jews since after the close of the Victorian Era.

>>11653634
Self-insertion aside, how was the novel ?

>>11652545
Where does this meme come from?. Poul anderson, De Camp, jack vance, leigh brackett, Heinlein, john Campbell; these were the founding fathers of the genre, and all were right wingers.

>>11652462
YAS QUEEN

Let token blacks and women win participation medals. It doesn't make their work good.

>>11653751
Heinlein's writings and political positions were all over the place. He was an involved SanFran democrat early in his life, and a self-styled libertarian later on.
It's completely disingenuous and dishonest to to simply label him as a "right-wing", especially when trying to frame that as if its a bad thing.

>>11653726
What the fuck are you on? None of the great classic sci-fi authors were Jews other than Asimov. Wells, Clarke, Heinlein, Lewis, Dick, Bradbury, Herbert, Verne, Huxley, Vonnegut were all gentile.

>>11653700
How can you be so fucking dense?

READ BETWEEN THE LINES OF WHAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO YOU FUCKING BRAINLET.

>>11652462
Does anyone actually read her works? I read the first one just to see what the fuss was all about, and while the prose was decent enough, the story was a completely predictable oppression tale.

>>11652462
White men have lost their fucking balls.

>it's another thread in which Americans discuss identity politics instead of actually discussing literature

>>11653832
oh no, people care about identity? how fucking plebeian of them amirite, we're all just like meaningless atoms and shit lol

>>11653832

>reception of literature and what it says about the current culture doesn't define literature that reflects the current flawed zeitgeist at all, so it's not important

go read some kupi or some shit

>>11653832
>Let me dress up my desire to silence the criticism against this as genuine concern for the decline of discussion of literature on this board.

Gotcha pleb!

>>11653808
I've not read it so can't comment on it, but generally, and not only in literature, it seems nowadays the norm is not rewarding quality but virtue signaling

>>11653842
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>>11653856
Why do you even post on this board? Are /int/, /his/ and /pol/ not enough for you?

>>11653842
>>11653851
>>11653856
Truly pathetic…

>>11653859
I don't think this is very new though, it's just that the virtues have changed. Going against the grain is always hazardous, while sucking up to the powers that be will grant you rewards.

>>11653711
You're not a minority. You're too stupid to even see that you're part of a global majority of non white people and you're actually proud of the label stuck on you by manipulative Leftist cunts.

Why would you even read science fiction after JG Ballard died? This is like being crowned king of the trash heap. Sure, you're the king, but it's a trash heap.

>>11652491
she's not wrong though, whiteness and blackness are just social constructs which serve no purpose apart from winding up the spiral of hatred

>>11653832
Identity politics is now literature.
That's literally what these awards are saying.

>>11653556
>All-American lily white WASP Aryans (Jews mostly)
do you not know what wasp stands for? That group does not include jews my friend.

>>11654016
No it isn't dipshit, its a convenient way of categorization who has 70 IQ and who are regular humans

>>11653896
Is tumblr and reddit not enough for you faglord?

>>11652545
>>11653556
There's more political diversity in pre-1990 science fiction than most people realize. H.P. Lovecraft was a hardcore xenophobe who wanted America to be purely WASP. Poul Anderson was a right-leaning libertarian. Robert A. Heinlein was originally a socialist but he abandoned those views in the 1940s and became a libertarian. Ursula K. Le Guin was a feminist but she was also an anarchist. John W. Campbell was a racist who was against government regulating industries. Gene Wolfe is a hardcore Catholic. Orson Scott Card is a hardcore Mormon who openly doesn't like gays. The list goes on.

>>11653986
whats it matter if i can manipulate this distinction in my favor?

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>>11654205
Okay yeah sure but they were all white and almost all men, so...

>>11654209
You can't, there'll always be someone more minority than you who will be shilled instead.
Besides you truly are an 80IQ subhuman if you want pity publishing and pity awards while no one will ever care about your work because "published non-white" has become an intentionally cultivated mark of mediocrity

>>11654016
Right, but she doesn't say that. She validates them as viable identity categories. The woke black slam-politics movement has done for black people what white supremacists have never managed to achieve - equate the colour of their skin with a monolithic culture one cannot and should not want to escape. Fucking retards.

>>11654251
yeah, that's true too
Honestly I don't even know what I should do at this point, being a firm disbeliever in race

>>11654356
Fucking don't talk about it and ignore the cretins who do, unless they're biologists.

>>11652462
>Sci fi

>>11653800
>lists multiple Victorian era writers even thought I explicitly specified AFTER the Victorian era

Isaac Asimov
David Brin
Harlan Ellison
Robert Silverberg
Harry Turtledove
Forrest J. Ackerman
Alan A. Adler
Shlomo Averneri
Peter S. Beagle
Alfred Bester
Ilsa J. Bick
Robert Bloch
Jonathan Blum
Michael A. Burstein
Susan Casper
Jack Dann
Drew Mendelson
Cory Doctorow
Richard Dreyfuss
Alex Eisenstein
Phyllis Eisenstein
Esther Friesner
Marina Frantz
Richard Garfinkle
William Goldman
Phyllis Gotlieb
Lisa Goldstein
Isidore Haiblum
Jack C. Haldeman
Joe W. Haldeman
Daniel Handler
Russell Hoban
David Honigsberg
Roby James
Cyril M. Kornbluth
Ellen Kushner
Evelyn Leeper
Sharian Lewitt
Elliot S. Maggin
Barry Malzberg
Judith Merril
Dan Pearlman
Marge Piercy
Naomi Ragen
Mike Resnick
Laura Resnick
Benjamin Rosenbaum
Mary Rosenblum
Joanna Russ
Mary Doria Russell
Moacyr Scliar
William Shatner
Josepha Sherman
Janni Lee Simner
William Tenn
Sherri Tepper
Leonard Tushnet
Joan D. Vinge
Sage Walker
Amy Wolf
Deborah J. Wunder
Jane Yolen
Woody Allen
Carol Carr
George Alec Effinger
Mel Gilden
Horace L. Gold
Harvey Jacobs
D. J. Kessler
Bernard Malamud
Hugh Nissenson
Joe Sampliner
Pamela Sargent
Howard Schwartz
Robert Sheckley
Isaac Bashevis Singer
Sol Weiss
Stephanie Burgis
Eliot Fintushel
Miriam Baskin
Mark Blackman
Lauren P. Burka
Judith Katz
David Laurents

More: https://www.sfsite.com/~silverag/jewishsf.html

>>11652462
I don't even have to google the synopsis to the novel to know it's a piece of shit that only won because it's #woke.

>>11652462
Haven’t read her books. If it’s true that they’re terrible, though, she probably knows they’re terrible too. It’s not like she rests easy at night knowing the award wasn’t based on merit.

I haven’t read her though. You could all be racist misogynists and her works could be immaculate. Guess I’ll have to go to the library ...

>>11654517
Apart from Asimov, whom I already mentioned, and Harlan Ellison, that's a very nice list of literal fucking whos. Also, I didn't list a single Victorian writer other than Jules Verne. Wells was active from 1895-1946, which is just post-Victorian, and all the others are later.

>>11654594
>she probably knows they’re terrible too
You underestimate the human mind's capacity for denial, self-delusion, and easy gratification.

>>11654205
Lovecraft changed his mind, though.

>>11654517
>William Shatner

>>11654602
Bester and Brin are pretty well known.

>>11654517
Literally who

>>11654517
>Fucking who, the list

>>11654517
>Woody Allen
>a classic sci-fi writer
lol wtf

>>11654627
>>11654619
You don't know William Wolf? He's my father's cousin's friend's wife's brother, known for his Living the Stars series and his Robotland trilogy.

>>11654613
>when Gene Roddenberry was Jewish and showed off his wife in sexy clothes for other men to ogle and anything he wrote himself was middle-school tier writing which flopped

>>11654602
>>11654627
>>11654619
Stop samefagging. You obviously don't know anything about science fiction if you don't recognize most of those names. Now, we're not just talking about writers, either, but also editors and fandom kingpins.

>Also, I didn't list a single Victorian writer other than Jules Verne. Wells was active from 1895-1946, which is just post-Victorian, and all the others are later.

Victoria's reign ended in 1901 (which you might prove is after 1895 if you do some. math) but the era is often extended and considered to have ended in 1910 at the end of the reign of Edward, or the start of World War I.

>>11654631
Woody Allen has written and directed about a dozen sci fi movies.

>>11654605
I'm not the anon you're replying and I keep asking myself if my work is good or bad. I think it's fine, but I'm really afraid I might be wrong.

>>11654722
The very fact that you doubt yourself is enough to put you above most of us.

>>11654517
lmao at this fucking list. Isaac Asimov, Harlan Ellison, Robert Bloch, Alfred Bester, and Forrest J. Ackerman are the only ones that actually matter and you know it. Did you really think people would seriously accept a list that includes Richard Dreyfuss, William Shatner, and Woody Allen?

>>11654684
>Woody Allen has written and directed about a dozen sci fi movies.
He has 1 sci-fi film (Sleeper) and 3 fantasy films (The Purple Rose of Cairo, Alice, Midnight in Paris). That's it.

>>11655260
Every time you people pick out "exceptions", your lists gets longer. I can only assume that you're actually googling some of the names.

>>11655314
I meant a half dozen and I was including his fantasy films. You forgot Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask and Don't Drink the Water, pig.

>>11655260
>Richard Dreyfuss, William Shatner, and Woody Allen
This. Why are these famous Jews active in science fiction included on a list of Jews active in science fiction to prove that Jews have disproportionate influence on science fiction? It beggars belief.

>>11652491
>Oh I'm not anti-white
>I'm just against whiteness, if you had black skin then you'd be alright
I FUCKING HATE JEWS AND NIGGERS and I'm honest about it. I'm anti-NIGGER and anti-KIKE so go ahead kikes and niggers, admit it you hate whites too. It's alright no need to try and lie about it anymore. Let's just get this over with.

Illuminati ordered this. Not being sarcastic.

>>11655352
Why are you acting like I represent every person who has responded to you? Anyway, I'm aware of Bloch because of his connection to Lovecraft, I looked up Ackerman because he edited a sci-fi compilation that I grabbed from my local library, I discovered and read Bester after I did some digging on groundbreaking sci-fi classics, and even normies have heard of Asimov and Ellison. I knew all of them long before you came up with your laughable list.

>>11652462
Honestly her novels sound like shit. But everything by the Puppies has also been utter shit.

At this point, who really cares about the Hugo's.

>>11655442
No just imagine that there's someone else out there who has heard of some of the others. Whether you've personally heard of someone does not determine how important they are to a field, because you're obviously not an expert. The only thing laughable here is your claim to be a science fiction fan. You're not. You're a poseur. Now please disappear back again into the oblivion that is your life.

>>11655352
>pig
Now, now. No need to be hostile because I pointed out Woody Allen isn't a notable sci-fi author. By the way, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask) is just a surrealistic comedy and if Don't Drink the Water is fantasy then so is Dr. Strangelove.

>>11655457
That's it then. Hugo award is obsolete now.

>>11655457
This is my perspective. It doesn't really matter who wins, the awards have been politicized and their usefulness as a recommendation mechanic is therefore compromised

>>11655483
I mean, you're being sarcastic but it has taken a bad turn into mediocrity.

The Puppies started up five years ago. Since then it's been less about what is the best and more, what does the thing that wins say about the people involved. The short story that won, was mediocre. A in the second person diatribe about how White People write Native Americans. And how nobody gives a fuck about real native history. Which is bullshit by the way. Nothing sells more these days than fucking pointing out atrocities.

>>11655468
Bloch contributed to Lovecraft's mythos. Bester was one of the most groundbreaking sci-fi authors of the 1950s, his work helped usher in the new wave. Ackerman represented some of the most important sci-fi writers of all time and edited numerous genre fiction anthologies and a genre fiction magazine. I dare you to write a blurb for everyone you listed.

>>11655469
>notable sci-fi author
We're not just talking about great authors of prose fiction. We're talking about a genre of fiction that spans multiple industries with people working in a multitude of careers, and that includes a parallel fan culture.

Have you actually watched either of those Allen movies or are you just spouting shit? Shut your mouth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM3fglmaRrA

>>11655521
I dare you to go fuck your own mother.

>>11652462

>caring about genre fiction
>caring about shitty annual genre fiction awards for contemporary genre fiction
>caring about shitty american identity politics mixed in with shitty annual genre fiction awards for shitty contemporary genre fiction

You could be reading the canon.

>>11655537
A significant portion of the Canon is fantasy

>>11655534
Is that all you've got, Jew?

>>11655549
I double dog dare you.

>>11655543

Name five authors.

>>11655468
Oh no, I can't begin to imagine the shame of not being a hardcore sci-fi fan.

>>11655560
>philosemite
>making fun of people for being fans of certain fiction genres

>>11655557
Homer
Shakespeare
Goethe
Borges
Grimm

>>11655570
Read that last one as GRRM lol

>>11655576
But what was Bloom's tax policy

What non-racism was supposed to be:
>color-blind, the best work wins
What non-racism became:
>gibs it to the negroid every time regardless of merit, the most negro, loud, edgy anti-white negro with a chip on his shoulder you can find
Activated those almonds.

>In 2015, two groups of science fiction writers, the "Sad Puppies" led by Brad R. Torgersen and Larry Correia, and the "Rabid Puppies" led by Vox Day, each put forward a similar slate of suggested nominations which came to dominate the ballot
>The leaders of the campaigns characterized them as a reaction to "niche, academic, overtly [leftist]" nominees and the Hugo becoming "an affirmative action award" that preferred female and non-white authors and characters.
>In response, five nominees declined their nomination before and, for the first time, two after the ballot was published.[46][47] Multiple-Hugo-winner Connie Willis declined to present the awards
>In all but the Best Dramatic Presentation, Long Form category, "no award" placed above all nominees that were on either slate, and it won all five categories that only contained slate nominees.
>The two campaigns were repeated in 2016 with some changes to the campaigns, and the "Rabid Puppy" slate again dominated the ballot in several categories, with all five nominees in Best Related Work, Best Graphic Story, Best Professional Artist, and Best Fancast.
>In response to the campaigns, a set of new rules, called "E Pluribus Hugo", were passed in 2015 and ratified in 2016 to modify the nominations process. Intended to ensure that organized minority groups cannot dominate every finalist position in a category, the new rules define a voting system in which nominees are eliminated one by one, with each vote for an eliminated work then spread out over the uneliminated works they nominated, until only the final shortlist remains.

>Intended to ensure that organized minority groups cannot dominate every finalist position in a category

the absolute state of things

Best Related Work, second place. Can't believe anyone hasn't brought this up yet.

>CTRL + F
>"octavia butler
>0/0
this thread is bad and you should feel bad

>>11655704
Oh so the 50+ percent majority sjw bloc gets to determine every single possible outcome. Lol. What could possibly go wrong? Low iq ftw.

>>11655896
Was in response to this rule

>nominees are eliminated one by one, with each vote for an eliminated work then spread out over the uneliminated works they nominated, until only the final shortlist remains

>>11654249
you've put way too much thought into this non existant world you think exist

Resolving to avoid any literature of the past 50 years was the best decision of my life

>>11653726 >>11654517 >>11654684 >>11655352 >>11655468 >>11655525
Overcompensating kike. Fuck it, I'm gonna counter your autism with my autism:

Philip K. Dick
Robert A. Heinlein
Arthur C. Clarke
H. P. Lovecraft
Ray Bradbury
Kurt Vonnegut
Frank Herbert
Stephen King
Ursula K. Le Guin
Alan Moore
Roger Zelazny
Clark Ashton Smith
Fritz Leiber
J. G. Ballard
Anthony Burgess
John W. Campbell
Edgar Rice Burroughs
Theodore Sturgeon
Poul Anderson
William Gibson
Orson Scott Card
Michael Crichton
Michael Moorcock
Gene Wolfe
George R. R. Martin
Terry Pratchett
Douglas Adams
L. Sprague de Camp
Samuel R. Delany
Jack Vance
Brian Aldiss
Lester del Rey
Philip José Farmer
Bruce Sterling
Leigh Brackett
Marion Zimmer Bradley
Norman Spinrad
John Brunner
Kim Stanley Robinson
Clifford D. Simak
Thomas M. Disch
Larry Niven
Jerry Pournelle
Frederik Pohl
James E. Gunn
Kate Wilhelm
Vernor Vinge
L. Ron Hubbard
Dan Simmons
Margaret Atwood
Dean Koontz
Ted Chiang
Jeff VanderMeer
China Miéville
John Scalzi
Octavia E. Butler
Spider Robinson
Jeanne Robinson
John Varley
Timothy Zahn
Connie Willis
Mike Resnick
Nancy Kress
Barry B. Longyear
Terry Carr
Gordon R. Dickson
Andre Norton
William Rotsler
Christopher Priest
Edward Bryant
Rog Phillips
Richard Wilson
C. J. Cherryh
Lisa Tuttle
Charles L. Harness
Lucius Shepard
Laird Barron
Michael Bishop
Jack Williamson
Andy Duncan
Anne McCaffrey
Walter M. Miller Jr.
C. L. Moore
Algis Budrys
Charles Sheffield
Allen Steele
Thomas Olde Heuvelt
Alexei Panshin
Gregory Benford
John Crowley
Robert J. Sawyer
Jack McDevitt
Neal Stephenson
Bruce Bethke
Rudy Rucker
Thea von Harbou

Your "science fiction was dominated by white men when in fact it has been the exclusive domain of the Jews since after the close of the Victorian Era," claim is pure bullshit.

>>11655919
You're missing out on some excellent stuff from the late 60s, 70s, and 80s. However, you're correct that most literature of the last 30 years is shit.

She is the three time Hugo award winner you’ll never read.
>the Hugos are shit

>awards hosted and run by jews giving out awards to further an agenda and promote and signal this agenda matter
>no really you guys this matters
not like anyone has sat you down and put clips on your eyes to make you read her shit. let them revel in shit

>>11655941
I am going to read her and see for myself. What I'm not going to read is >>11655804. This is where the real outrage is asshats, that fucking eceleb twat almost beat Ursula Le Guin in the year of her death.

>>11655804
>>11655981
>Crash Override: How Gamergate (Nearly) Destroyed My Life, and How We Can Win the Fight Against Online Hate - ZOE QUINN
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT RELATED TO SCI-FI/FANTASY/HORROR?!

>>11656000
yay 128 replies in, good job you clueless fucktards

Lovecraft award

>>11656020
That is just as compromised.

well she shouldn't

>>11654016
Why do liberals become creationist-tier science denialists when it comes to race?

>>11656028
By the way, what my pic fails to mention is the author who lobbied against Lovecraft was Daniel José Older (an uber hack who cares more about "diversity" than quality) and his lobbying was a petition that garnered less than 3,000 signatures. Keep in mind that petition was covered by The Guardian and over major news outlets so it's hilariously pathetic that even with mainstream recognition it miserably failed to garner a decent amount of signatures. However, the World Fantasy Awards are run by cucks who gave into Older's weak pressure.

>>11656028
>paranoid SJW hack author lives alone with her cats, in an ancient and stately manor house of late 18th century type
>walks by her mantle every dreary morning and stares at the statue of Lovecraft perched there, its somewhat oversized features and inhuman contours vaguely grotesque to the eye
>sometimes she swears she feels its eyes still at her back as she passes on, a hideous foreboding feelings that creeps up her spine and sets her shoulders on edge
>what's more, each time she examines it, the statue's expression seems to have changed; just enough to merit notice, but sufficiently slight as to dissuade a rational mind from such fantastic thoughts
>the noxious presence gets stronger and stronger with time, even emitting an eerie phosphorescence on some humid, summer nights, until she can feel its demonic miasma suffocating her, enveloping her while she tweets about white privilege on the toilet
>finally, in a fit of desperation, her mind frayed and exhausted by the abominable dreams which have come to visit her each night, she marches to the statue, with indefatigable purpose
>shouting with all the strength still left at her command, she confronts the bust of lovecraft, whose presence seems to fill the room, and whose gaze now seems squarely fixed on its swarthy interlocutor
>though minutes pass, there is no answer
>turning to leave, perhaps even to leave that once-forgotten place for good, she hears the unmistakable utterance of a new englander's tongue from the mantle behind her
>"Nigger"

>>11655920
Leiber Simmons and Zahn are jewish names

>>11652484
>>11652491
>>11652501

oh cool a racists black chick but oh wait I forgot, black people cant be racists.

fuck I guess I wont bother buying any books that won hugo awards from now on if this type of crap is what wins.

>>11656000
Gamer gate is her success story. She milked every ounce of it. And then writes a book about milking it pretending it kept her from doing more important stuff. Like what? Not becoming the sjw Queen?

>>11656081
>Zahn
>Leiber
Also German.
>Simmons
Also English.

I looked into all three of those authors and I couldn't find any proof they're Jewish.

>>11655941
The hugos have always been the lesser sf award compared to the nebulas. It's literally just a popular vote (at least until like 2 years ago)

>>11656107
I give the Nebulas credit for not giving J.K. Rowling an award. However, they gave N.K. Jemisin an award this year.

>>11654205
Lovecraft was the classic American archetype of being hardcore racist with a Jewish gf

>>11656122
Wonder how high the financial incentive was.

>>11655920
>Jews make up less than 2% of the population but here's a list of gentiles almost as long as your list of Jews who really has disproportionate influence huh goy?

Jewminism

I keep reading her name as that and wondering if it is really a thing.

>>11656191
>almost as long
Longer. I counted.
>who really has disproportionate influence huh goy?
That isn't the argument, you faggot. Stop shifting the goalposts. You claimed Jews have totally dominated science fiction since the Victorian era came to a close and that isn't true. Notable non-Jewish sci-fi authors outnumber Jewish sci-fi authors. Are Jews massively disproportionate in the field? Absolutely. Do they totally control it? Fuck no.

>>11656222
By the way, when I say "control" I'm talking about representation. I haven't looked into who runs the sci-fi publishers.

>>11656048
aagh, what's this from? advice-bot or something? i can't remember and there's so many good ones

>>11656235
>I haven't looked into who runs the sci-fi publishers.
Or who runs the Awards. Or any of that shit. But we're talking about authors so it's all irrelevant unless you want to shift this conversation to a different topic.

Unironically who cares. Sci-fi is shit, awards are worthless, especially dreck like the Hugo awards.

>>11656069

>>11656322
Where are filenames like this from?
I see them everywhere in recent weeks.

You can't socially condition the degenerate, go away

>>11655704
nah, the rabids meant to turn it into this so something else could take its place from the start

dragoncon's where it's at now

>>11656222
>Longer. I counted.
Did you count the second list that I linked to with "More:" directly under the first list?

>Do they totally control it?
Yes, the do.

>By the way, when I say "control" I'm talking about representation.
In other words, you're not using the word control properly.

>I haven't looked into who runs the sci-fi publishers.
No shit you haven't.

>But we're talking about authors so it's all irrelevant unless you want to shift this conversation to a different topic.
Talk about shifting the goalpost! My original claim was that Jews dominate science fiction. Not that the all science fiction authors are Jewish, or even the majority.

You're arguing in bad faith. This much is clear to anyone.

I wasn't referring to authors. I wasn't even referring to prose fiction. The culture industry is dominated by Jewish gatekeepers, producers, publishers, and editors. The ones who aren't ethnically Jewish are shabbos goyim or golems such as yourself.

Do you think this thread would exist if Jewish anti-white identity politics didn't control science fiction?

>>11656334
Mobile. I’m shitposting from th shitter at work

>>11656069

sorry op i really tried to give a shit but i just dont care

>>11656028
they took d.w.griffith's name off the lifetime achievement award for birth of a nation

>>11652462
aunt jemima is unironically a better writer than, say, shakespeare or dostoevsky, but any man at all really. i'm so glad the era of shitty literature written by white men about stuff like God, love, philosophy, adventure, virtue, etc., is finally coming to an end. that shit was boring as fuck. my girl jemima be writin shit bout outer space. no whiboy been doin this shit befo'. WHITEY BTFO

i bet this big push for poc sf is just in response to some kind of market forces, like some publisher bought some user data off google or facebook and found out that wocs are more likely to read sf than anyone else or something, so they are doing their best to pander to the most lucrative demographic

>>11656069
underrated

>This group of people were wrong and picked one side for "reasons"
>Let's just pick the opposite side for opposite reasons. Surely this makes things fair.

>>11656485
>wocs
Whites of colour?

>>11656485
No. It's supposed to make niggers cool like mtv did, so that we women start race mixing to dilute whites and turn them into servile corporate state slaves

>>11653468
It's honestly hilarious. I can't wait until >>11653613, though who knows how long it'll take before this happens?

>>11653468
the white man is super sneaky

>Jews aren't white
Who invented this?
I mean, I already know the answer.

>>11656675
did u see that article in the nytimes today that was like "angry white male doctor arrested at airport: dr. epstein complained loudly of being treated like a black person while being taken away in handcuffs" i was like well lol 2 u

>>11656638
>though who knows how long it'll take before this happens?

I'll give a hard five years. We have an entire generation of kids being raised on alt-right youtube channels and its going to being the harrowing when they become the new relevant youth

>>11656680
That sounds hilarious

>>11655704
>The leaders of the campaigns characterized them as a reaction to "niche, academic, overtly [leftist]" nominees and the Hugo becoming "an affirmative action award" that preferred female and non-white authors and characters.

They were right, in the end.

How did humans start taking the concept of awards given out by arbitrary groups seriously?

>>11656702
Recognition is like drugs. We want to be recognized by our peers, and we want prestige. It's Pride, really.

>>11656702
i don't know, but just imagine getting one of them. you pour your heart and soul into a book, or an album, or a movie, or whatever, then some faggot group of boomers you don't even know comes along and basically says to you, "we find your work to be sufficient to OUR standards, congratulations, you must be so happy for yourself." just imagine the kind of cuck you would have to be to accept that gesture. its basically letting some boomer elitists fuck your creation while you watch. lmao i would tell them to go fuck themselves

>>11656734
It's also about affirmation and comfort. It consoles the mind and reaffirms the notion that you are alive because you are known in the world. In the end, after much recognition, you can become a beacon of inspiration yourself. This is why people of much dermal melanin are getting so much if it. Ultimately, it empowers them and gives them odd ideas about equality.

>>11652462
I'm not and never have been a racist, I just hate niggers. would this young negress have a problem with that?

>>11656901
I just want you to know that I did in fact laugh at your post. I've had a lot of tequila tonight, but still

>>11657062
Your lack of refinement and any form of discriminating taste is humbling.

>>11652762
>being this assblasted over a genre

>>11656366
If your point has always been that Jews are the gatekeepers, producers, publishers, and editors of sci-fi then why the hell did you post a list that includes actors, literally who tier authors, film directors who are rarely associated with sci-fi, and other people who don't control any of the stuff you're talking about? Why were you blathering that the people who laugh at your list aren't true fans of sci-fi? A lot of time and autism could've been spared if you had either trimmed your list down to the Jewish industry insiders or just said at the start "Jews are the gatekeepers, producers, publishers, and editors of sci-fi."

>>11654016
no shit
but this nonsense is pushed by american universities, identity politics overall is. she pushes them as such.

>>11655569
You're the philosemite. You claim to be a hardcore sci-fi fan who has a deep knowledge of the genre and you also won't stop droning on about how sci-fi, the genre you love so much, has been ultra Jewish for over a century.

>>11653832
Seriously you guys just need to fuck off. Fucking Burgers

>>11658908
>greatest country in history
>thinking we'll fuck off

>>11656485
If they did that they would have found that non-whites who are into science fiction and fantasy are ok with the traditional standards of the genre.

t. Mulatto who loves Tolkien, Lovecraft and Robert E. Howard

>>11652484
i can't believe 'men' like this exist

>>11659860
>greetings, fellow white man! Oy vey, aren't we just the worst? We've ruined everything! We should hate ourselves! We should make white countries as diverse as possible! Except for Israel. Never forget that Israel has every right to remain purely Jewish.

>>11658874
BOTH lists I posted included editors and publishers. Go back and read the entire thread and you'll see that never limited my original claim to writers. And I instantly clarified that I wasn't just talking about writers or prose. I'm not responsible for your inability to understand that which you refuse to understand.

>>11658906
I have nothing against Jews, actually. But to claim that white Gentiles have dominated science fiction, that stopped being true a century ago, because Jews do, and these identity politics idiots need to fuck off with saying white people have power over things they lost power over long ago.

what got me into science fiction is the ideas: i like thought provoking situations, concepts, scenarios, mind games and so on... never had a problem where a faction of the future of humanity is described as gender neutral or brown skinned or bisexual... if they can make something with it, propose an interesting insght: fine. but in itself it's not enough to blow my freaking mind, right, assuming this is what "they" focus on... i am more interested in other ideas like extreme longevity, the change of economic system as humanity transition into a post scarcity world, deep space exploration, baroque ai populated virtual worlds, various cultural and political currents emerging and so on and so forth. i have zero care about who write the good stuff, as long as they bring it.

since this is the incognito pol thread let me just say can you imagine if those farms in south africa that are being confiscated were owned by jews? america would have invaded already

>>11659898
>I'm not responsible for your inability to understand that which you refuse to understand
>But to claim that white Gentiles have dominated science fiction, that stopped being true a century ago, because Jews do
The post that kickstarted this shitshow (>>11653800) only talked about great sci-fi AUTHORS. He never disputed the fact that Jews run the publishing houses. And you didn't say a single word about the Jews' corporate control of sci-fi until >>11654684. So this entire argument has been nothing but misunderstandings. I fucked up but so did you. We're all retarded.

>>11653808
what are the ideas in there, any toying around with sciences, like social science i presume?

>>11660101
ah forget about it, i remember reading the wikipedia blurb about it. its freaking shitty fantasy , with magic and shit. sort of feel through with that shit for now.. too bad the hugo is not strictly sf, they make me waste my time with taht fantasy shit

>>11659860
This is one of the most Jewish things I've ever read on here.