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>>12157080
Niggamancer by Tweak da Tekknologicool Brothaman

>>12157080
there's a bit of that in "Go to Taipei, Tao (Lin)"

>>12157087
I'm completely serious. I want to know what the arguments are for its possibility.

>>12157080
Fanged Noumena

OP here. Is this cringe shit? I'm aware that it's the type of thing to be discussed by epic pop science clowns (Neil deGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Elon Musk etc.), but I still think that the philosophical implications of AI are something that deserves our attention.
Maybe I should rephrase my question. Are there any contemporary authors who are educated in the western philosophical canon, and who aren't watered-down pop science bullshit?

>>12157414
I think if there were anyone doing work of serious weight on it we would've heard about them. Would you agree this is what has to be addressed before the stagnation of our politics/philosophy/culture can be fixed?

All I can think to recommend is learning about the technology itself, how it is developed, and the powers that wield it. My fear is that the companies at the forefront of this field have conscience or transparancy.

>>12157414
Authors who discuss AI, I mean.

>>12157510
*those companies have NO conscience or transparency

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>>12157510
Thanks for your reply.
You make some good points. There might not be a much significant literature on the subject yet.
Perhaps it would be better for me to focus my curiosity on the developing technology, like you said.

I know we are in lit, but there are some manga about that. Try Blame!, biomega and Ghost in the shell (manga, movies and TV series are other timelines, each one with it's own merits).
In a way asimov is about singularity, but not as we see it today, ala skynet and shit.

>>12157080
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>>12157080
how about the bible? because the singularity is just the second coming gussied up with circuit boards for the sexually isolated

>>12157169
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>>12159750
Actually a good rec. The relationship between a technological singularity and Christian eschatology is worth exploring.

>>12159766
Would you mind detailing exactly what is cringe about my question/curiosity? If I'm in the wrong for wondering about this kind of thing, please explain why, instead of doing what you are currently doing, which isn't constructive, informative, or useful in the least.

>>12157511
Charles Stross is all over that shit. his short story collection "Toast" has a cool story called "Antibodies" where we see an AI just as it starts to take over the world.

arguing against: pretty much anything on Rodney Brook's blog. he's a professional engineer and roboticist, too.

>>12157080
how about BAD singularity stories?

shit-tier: I Have No Mouth and I must Praise Harlan Ellison

god-tier: Destination:Void by Frank Herbert

Life 3.0 is good!

>>12160464
there are differences. christian rapture depends on the existence of Angry Sky Guy, which is entirely a matter of conjecture. we may never understand consciousness to the point where we can simulate it electronically, much less overclock it to the point of being superhuman, but at least we have the hardware we can point at and say "it's evolving. we are force-evolving it faster than anything has ever evolved before."

>>12160477
He's calling you cringe becuase you asked a question regarding something that he's not intrested in. Then when you said that you were serious he called you cringe again for caring enough to reply to him. There's a good chance that he'll call you cringe for expanding on your reply and elaborating and trying to reach out to him when he just doesn't care.

In short, he's retarded. Ignore him.

The third singularity you mean?

Suicide Note by Mitchell Heisman. Trust me.

>>12157080
My diary desu

>>12162189
When were the other two?

>>12162242
discovery of sticks for hitting people on the head

and

creation of the semiconductor

>>12162144
Wasn't me the second time, bub.
I cringed, and cringed hard because all books written about the "technological singularity" are going to be biased and think it's inevitable. They don't explain why or how, it's just singularity DUDE! Futurism! Wow it's gonna be great kids! It's just to keep stupid plebs excited for a big, fat, juicy, zero calorie nothinburger.

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>>12157107
I wanted it to be real like anime but it was fake like the Holocaust

>>12162262
>They don't explain why or how, it's just singularity DUDE! Futurism! Wow it's gonna be great kids!
Have you actually read one or are you just making a strawman about an idea you dislike, probably because you're religious?

One of Stephen Hawking wrote something before he died about eugenics and how people who refuse to submit to the superhuman eugenics project will be phased out.

>>12162387
>people who refuse to submit
Submit what? Sperm?

>>12162433
to KARA BOGA

>>12162368
Don't believe in God, either.

>>12157080
The Divine Comedy. I'm pretty sure Dante envisioned a point in history when all of human efforts would converge into an techno-dictatorship as he waxed poetic about demons trumpeting out of their ass

>>12162433
To clarify, only the rich would be able to afford supergenes, and the poor being outclassed and rendered obsolete by the superhuman aristocracy will rendered unemployed and starve to death.

>>12157080
Orgy of the Will