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>disrupts centuries of latin pedagogy
>brings latin novices to fluency in 2 months
is there a French equivalent? (or German or Italian)

>> No.12314862

Yes, the same company made an Italian and French version, however they are very difficult to find in print. I'll see if I can find a link to the PDFs for you.

>> No.12314880

>>12314862
2 months? Is there a german equivalent?

>> No.12314884

>>12314862
thanks anon

>> No.12314894

>>12314817
I learned Latin via Orberg, and I'm one of Lingua Latina's biggest advocates as a teacher, but you really shouldn't exaggerate its effectiveness. No reason to lie when it's already the best book around.

>> No.12314903

>>12314894
>as a teacher
Good man
>shouldn't exaggerate
But it gets replies!

>> No.12314924

>>12314862
>Italian: (L'italiano secondo il metodo natura)
>http://b-ok.cc/book/2884212/6d9440
>French: (Le français par la méthode nature)
>http://b-ok.cc/book/2884211/99cec2

>> No.12314948

>>12314880
I don't believe so

>> No.12315057

>>12314880
I want german language learning tips like this guy. Please and thank you.

>> No.12315095

>>12314924

Thank you

>> No.12315933

>>12315095
No worries

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>>12314817
there's also the pestalozzian method which is very similar to the natural method. Search for Worman's First French Book

>> No.12316109

>>12314817
>>12314894
How long would it take me to read Virgil if I spend two hours a day on that course?

>> No.12316113
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spanish. there is one for german but is has a gothic font that makes it difficult to read

>> No.12316138

How does this work? I don’t understand how you can learn a language with only a couple pictures to represent nouns.

>> No.12316145

>>12316138
the story gets more complex as it goes and you learn the grammar intuitively

>> No.12317253

bump for this based book

>> No.12317310

>>12314817
I was digging around some old family books a while back and I found an Italian textbook that used the natural method. I can't remember the name of it though. Something like Italian the right way. The book had a minimalist design and was all in green if some anon wants to dig around.

>> No.12317312

>>12317310
Its the same book

>> No.12317416

http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Le+Francais+par+La+methode+nature&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def

>> No.12317447

>>12316109
The first volume of Lingua Latina only teaches about a 1000 most common latin words, which is nowhere near enough to understand Virgil. You need to get through both volumes.

>> No.12317531

>>12317447
shut up fag

>> No.12317556

>>12317531
You have to be over 18 to post here sweetie

>> No.12317560

>>12317556
you have to be over 25 to not sound like an obnoxious faggot

>> No.12317574

>>12317531
>>12317560
calm down its 11am

>> No.12317692

>>12317416
Thanks, anon.

>> No.12318155

Bumping this hoping for a german equivalent

>> No.12318403
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12318403

do not want to sound as a fag here in /lit/, but do you think duolingo is fine or a meme?

>> No.12318418

>>12318403
It won't hurt to use it but don't rely on it. It's good for basic vocab and grammar but that's pretty much it.

>> No.12318421

>>12318403
I used DL for like 1.5 years along with some supplemental trips to /int/ deutsch threads and YT videos and such. Managed to test into the last language course I needed at my (shitty) uni and made an A in that class. So in my experience it's not bullshit. Still can't read actual literature yet but I could get around in germany if need be.

>> No.12318430

>>12314880
Last time I saw this thread an anon who seemed well informed said there was one German version but it was early 20th century and the only available rips are in a terrible gothic font that I found unreadable. Sorry I don't remember the name but I don't think it's worth getting anyway.

>> No.12318868

>>12318430
Blackletter is based. Fuck you.

>> No.12318911
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>>12314817
>Ancient Greek equivalent is in Italian

>> No.12318929
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*intrat*

>> No.12318944

>>12318911
learn to read Italian dummy.

or just use Athenaze

>> No.12318955

>>12314894
Where do you start with Örberg's books? Which one comes first?

>> No.12319141

>>12318911
>>12318944
i think he's already referring to athenaze but yeah the original american edition is almost as good as the italian

>> No.12319351

>>12318911
>http://b-ok.cc/book/2884212/6d9440

>> No.12319353

>>12318929
I love the Cambridge Latin desu

>> No.12319511

>>12319141
>>12318944
Anyone have the Athenaze Ancient Greek?

>> No.12319671

>>12318955
Familia Romana > Lhomond's Epitome > Roma Aeterna

>> No.12319678

>>12318955
>>12319671
This is good for when you finish Familia Romana too: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/lhomond.viris.html

>> No.12319840

>>12317447
How long would that take?

>> No.12319925
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>>12319671
>>12319678
Thank you, anons! I've been wanting to get a grasp of the basics of Latin for a while, then see where I can go from there.

>> No.12320250

>>12319840
I wouldn't know, I've only read Familia Romana (which took about a month), then moved on to the Vulgata, while roting some anki cards in spare time. In generals, I see very little reason to actually bother with Roma Aeterna, the first volume gives you full understanding of the grammer, at which point the only way to improve your latin is to increase the vocabulary and get familiarized with real literature.

>> No.12321224

>>12320250
Roma Aeterna is a collection of readings from classical latin writers, the first third is slightly edited for vocabulary and syntax, the latter portions of the book are unedited. It's still worth buying if you don't already have a good reader.

>> No.12322779

bump

>> No.12322894

>>12314924
>>12317416
Is there any audio for these, like for Lingua Latina?

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Think I have the german edition for the dudes who are looking for it. Printed 1916

>> No.12323384

>>12318421
What CEFR level was that class tho

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>>12323377
It sounds like whats been described previously in the thread. You get used to the script pretty quick and I find it makes it easier to keep german and english separate. Haven’t gotten very far with it since Im currently trying to learn Russian and Irish instead. If anybody has an equivalent for either of those I’d be eternally grateful if you could post it

>> No.12323399

>>12314903
please stop redditposting on my 4channel

>> No.12323402
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Linguaphone.

>> No.12323674

>>12314817
anyone have a PDF of this?

>> No.12323690

Is there on for russian?

>> No.12323739

>>12323674
Check b-ok.org, anon. Just search for the author or the book's name.

>> No.12324493

>>12323739
Thanks!

>> No.12324505

>>12320250
>which took about a month
based. did you do all the exercises too?
and, how many hours a day did you dedicate to it

>> No.12324989
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>>12323385
You MUST read the German book in this script, because it is a special script which was used in Germany up to the second world war if you want to read any old out of print books in German you can't get around this script. For example, I am german and have an Interest in alchemy, everything there is written in this script. It is also a little different than English versions of it so look the script in Wikipedia up before starting reading.

>> No.12325018

>>12324989
Thanks for the advice. Im a bit skeptical about this book actually working however. Just can’t really believe you can get reading that fast let alone speaking and listening.

>> No.12325026

>>12318430
My grandfather wrote in some of those fonts. Find that shit and I will transpose it.

>> No.12325043

>>12325026
I posted it already I believe:
>>12323385

>> No.12325046

>>12318868
One of the boys on /deutsch/ made it his New Year's resolution to help cement the return of the Großes Eszett.

>> No.12325106

worman's first german book
>>12316079
>>12316113

>>12319511
you can find it easily on libgen

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>>12325106
pic

>> No.12325166

>>12325046
Aren't they kinda late to the party? It's already part of official german orthography since 2017

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>>12316109
>>12317447
>>12319840
>>12320250

>> No.12325405

>>12325396
numberline representing what? weeks?

>> No.12325412

>>12325396
where is this from? are there more?

>> No.12325457

>>12325405
Chapters.

>>12325412
Not that I know of.

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>>12325166
Often times you can use ss or ß, so he probably meant the usage, for example, you can write dass or daß, but today most people use dass

>> No.12325846

>>12325119
Jesus this is painful to read

>> No.12325877

>>12325683
Exactly. Though it has been added to the Ordnung, it is not in wide use. From Spiegel:
>Jun 29, 2017 - Das "kleine" und das neue "große" Eszett
They still consider it "new". It has seen minimal use for quite some time.

>> No.12326038

Wish Orberg were better known. I myself learned using Wheelock's back in the day and virtually all schools that teach Latin in the UK (which is not very many) use the Cambridge Latin Course, which isn't a patch on Orberg.

>> No.12326084

>>12314924
>>12317416
Will I be able to read Baudelaire and Rimbaud by the time I finish the French one?