/lit/ - Literature

>>12411813
You can literally create your own synchronicities through divination. I've got a tarot diary full of recorded (and mostly verified) readings that I've done over the years. If you're a beginner, try casting the I Ching and see what it does for you.

Be warned that any skepticism on your part will probably void the process. Your own psychological state is a crucial component of synchronicity. You need an open mind, or outright belief, in order to do it successfully.

synchronicities happen when you unbound your pattern recognition machinery. You have to be careful tho, the rabbit hole can lead you anywhere

>>12411813
You need to understand that synchronicity is primarily a tool for healing schizophrenia - Jung himself said that it is very important to break the empiricist vision of the world in the patient. He himself healed his own psychosis through mysticism.

>>12411813
>needing Jung to move past the empiricist worldview

Synchronicity is confirmation bias. But what is important about it is that we give meaning to meaningless coincidences. Synchronicity doesn't exist "objectively" but it does exist "subjectively". I don't think this is what Jung thought but it's what I think.

>>12413032
>that synchronicity is primarily a tool for healing schizophrenia

i dont agree with this, synchronicity feels like schizophrenia, understanding synchronicity comes from within is what heals you

isn't getting digits here on 4chan a form of synchronicity? i've noticed that posts with repeating digits or patterns usually tend to have more relevant information or something more valuable to consider than a post without. also, started paying attention to repeating digits i was getting on the odometer of my car. there have been many occasions where i get in my car and when I notice repeating digits, it gives me some reassurance of the path i will travel.

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last october, I took a mushroom trip at a concert that ended up getting rained out, had to go through my trip sitting in a tent. it definitely wasnt a pleasant trip, but it was incredible to be surrounded by rain and lighting, it was definitely a lesson in humility. one of the clearest things i remember from the trip was this image of a masked face. nothing about the mask was remarkable but i was struck by this masked figure: it wasn't attacking me, but i could feel a sinister gaze peering at me, i couldn't figure out its intentions.

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fast forward to a couple days before xmas eve. i have yet another breakup with my partner, her mother once again comes to rescue her. in the days following her departure, i come across this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMvdR52nAfs).). as i watched the video, i started to become sick to my stomach, nearly had to turn it off. it wasn't just that the topic of the video seemed so relevant to my situation, but it was also the visuals that triggered such a visceral reaction in me, it brought me right back to the visions i was having back in that tent.

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perhaps it doesn't matter how many miles are on my car or perhaps my hallucinations were typical of anyone on mind altering drugs. perhaps my noticing of these coincidences is also a coincidence as well. personally, however, I feel it would be a mistake to ignore these things or write them off as mere coincidence. there may be no reason to believe that these moments had any intrinsic meaning, but because i try to live meaningfully, i find these synchronicities to be little signs that everything is happening exactly as it should.

>>12413032
Jung had psychosis?
I didn't know that, I went through psychosis twice. Now I want to read Jung.

>>12411813
I can't tell if they're really good or disastrously bad

>>12414402
He underwent a profound experience while experimenting on himself that resembled psychosis. He wasn't reduced to a shoe-chewing nutter, or anything like that.

>>12414323
>i've noticed that posts with repeating digits or patterns usually tend to have more relevant information
Autism would also explain this.

mystical vision jung is my favorite

>>12413076
The objective/subjective distinction you make is nonsensical. You do not have direct, unmediated, or uncomplicated access to "objective" or material reality. It is always and everywhere mediated not simply by your awareness, but by the structures, dimensions, objects, whatever that shape the nature of that awareness itself. Ergo, it is impossible that the objective be true while the subjective false, since they are never actually separable.

God, the internet is a despicable place.

jung spent a lot of time describing how shit feels, which could be interpreted as a first step to actually describing spirituality in a scientific way but, at the end of the day, he was just intuiting about shit.

>>12411813
We reside within our repeated processes.

>>12414647
Why did this bother you

>>12414691
>he was just intuiting about shit.
so was freud, psychoanalysis is basically nothing but presuming, speculating and talking out of your ass.

>>12414691
>>12414760
Jung was trying to develop an empirical approach to psychic phenomena you mongs. The results might be spiritual or mystical, but the method was scientific.

>>12414752
They testify, I think, to pseudospirtuality, pseudoscience and sentimentality, as well as a general unwillingness to confront text or ideas in depth and instead a tendency to be preocupied by the most superficial renderings of writers (quotes) packaged neatly with cute pictures and typeface. It's not for serious people, any of this.

>>12414788
>The results might be spiritual or mystical, but the method was scientific.
lol ok buddy, The Red Book sure is a real great example of rigorous empirical scientific research

Not op but I have a copy of phenomenology of the self laying around gathering dust. Worth a read for a layman of psychology?

>>12414799
Joe roge smokes weed I don't know what you're saying

>>12414878
Yeah, sure.

>>12414469
helps when reading through big threads

Anyone know the source of this image?

>>12414878
no

>>12414647
New around here?

>>12417593
No. Old. Very old. I feel the fat of ages heaving down my bones. I sense the shadows of my boyhood dreams looming in the long halls of my pestilence. Nothing has been as I had hoped for. I eat at the table and there are 5 chairs, and only one diner, and I imagine a wife and three children among the empty ones, and the laughter that might shake me from the solipsistic rage of self destruction to which I'm lately bound, as if this heard heart might at last be saved by woman's love, and the approval of my aging father gained at last as we watch the kids play in the yard, and he slaps me on the knee and smiles ear to ear, and he points at me and says "just like me" and invests me of some paternal wisdom, "they grow up quick. Too quick. Cherish them" and the easy hugs and loving of their innocence relieves me of all the guilt I bear as some imperfect human, standing now amid the ruin of myself, all Hope's dashed and dreams reduced to delirium, as of bums afflicted with schizophrenia and dazzled by the brightness of being to the lurking of underground channels convoluted beyond the comprehension of men who keep their jobs for years.

>>12417632
>No. Old. Very old. I feel the fat of ages heaving down my bones. I sense the shadows of my boyhood dreams looming in the long halls of my pestilence.
Those are some good lines anon
assuming you didn't steal them or whatever.

>>12417632
nice blog newfag

>>12417655
The other way to see it is to make ones peace, which I suppose more difficult than the stamping foot that begs to God "I needed more time!"

i didn't know /lit/ was full of woo mongers

>>12417763
mysticism is back baby. just look at all the people who are into astrology now.

>>12417763
>>12417950
Remember, Anons. When a man ceases to believe in God, he doesn't believe in nothing. He believes in everything.

>>12411813
just don’t become the singularity’s bitch like me. i was on the phone with my friend (fellow pisces) and i was telling her about how i’m scared of reality becoming corrupted by something unintelligible. the example i used was an octopus appearing on my bed. she told me to think about welcoming the universe’s volatile energy as if it were my own, because when i feel something out of balance i express it so that it evens out. i get off the horn and immediately i see this tweet: (Week of 1/13 in Pisces: Keep doing it. It’s going to be so ok. Keep doing the thing. Find an octopus.) and this comment: (translation: this isn’t the time to wallow in self pity or doubt. pay attention to signs from the universe like synchronicities that validate you’re on the right path! you’re doing good don’t hold yourself back. maybe for some of you this has to do with some form of writing.) there have been an abundance of signals similar to this throughout my life. i’d like to complete this “coincidence game” arc i’ve been playing but every time i seem to breakthrough to some plateau of stability the syncs keep flirting with me

>>12411813
>can correlation be causation if we just insist hard enough?

No.

>>12413014
Idiot

>>12418435
Kill yourself, empiricist

>>12414402
Jung was never psychotic, or schizophrenic, in the sense the word is used today in a clinical context.

>>12418435
The definition of synchronicity actually sidesteps this by calling the experiences coincidences.

and kys

>>12417955
God is everything, by definition. To see God in all things is the real struggle of man.

kek, how old is lit? 18?
Many high profile physicist believe in synchronicity. Many of them worked with Von Franz as well. Materialist reductionism... I don't even have words. I thought only braindead middle class urbanites fell for it.

>>12418422
>having friends
>talking on the phone
>reading horoscopes
>following horoscopes on twitter

do you think maybe its just that you're a retard?

>>12418550
i’ll be the first to admit i’m a retard, but not for any of those reasons no

>>12411813
>and believe that causality isn't logically necessary (Hume.)
Cringe

>>12411813
>What is confirmation bias?

>>12418701
look in the mirror

>>12417230
isn’t it fan art?

>>12414820
>introspective exercise never meant for publication
Great example there, friendo.

>>12417632
>the absolute fucking state of tripfags

>>12418435
KYS

bumping so this reaches you know who

>>12418435
KYS, for live only a small part of their lives in the empiricist world of things.

>>12418422
sounds like you are borderline psychotic anon

>>12418440
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>>12420348

Complete lack of argument against the unfalsifiability of everything synchronistic. Confirm your biases harder pseuds.

>>12418739
who drew it?

>>12420785
>unfalsifiability

many concepts and assumptions in the sciences are unfalsifiable, but that doesn't mean they are not useful.

>>12420274
trigger for the schizos

REEEEEEEEE JUNGIANS LEAAVEEEE!!!!

>>12413014
>swallows an entire spirituality wholesale from 2003-era erowid posts