/lit/ - Literature

Just find another job, that's what I did. And cool it with the stem hate, that's just a meme

>>12584564
Become a teacher, anon. That should be an easy job to land with enough pay to survive for a while as you try to find something you like more.

>>12584564
You could have read books outside of uni, idiot

>>12584584
im too scared to become a teacher im not good at talking

>>12584564
Damn, that was me
just a thought: not being fit for this world may not be a bad thing

>>12584601
Damn, you’re getting to me
Hope someone helps you, OP

>>12584595
please dont call me an idiot

>>12584601
Well. You either get over it and push through regardless, or starve. It's your choice Anon.

>>12584602
what are you doing now?

>>12584650
NEET

>>12584656
how are you surviving?

>>12584615
Do you disagree? It's a good first step

>>12584688
To know you are an idiot*

>>12584564
Be a slush reader at a journal, then maybe copyediting. You can read all day and talk to people a minimal amount.

>>12584564

Academia is the place for you. Trust me, you'd be great at it.

>>12584564
Have you atleast managed to snag a cute literate gf during your time in college?
That is the sole reason why humanaties is good.

>>12584601
Talking to kids is easy though

>>12584753
im a kv desu

>>12584564
Get a retail job to tide you over. Do you have other applicable skills?

>>12584759
Getting them to listen isn't

>>12584759
No its not, dealing with kids and being a decent teacher is hard as shit.
Being a good teacher means you have to inspire and catch the interest of the students, which is even harder with underage kids. You will also have to keep an eye for odd behaviour and check their "mental" health, bullying, harrasment all this without causing humiliation for the victims.
Besides, teachers are very badly payed even in most 1st world countries and the by the time they get close to retirement they are completly worned off and can no longer deal with kids.
A teacher will also have to always keep a authority figure in front of the class, if OP shows any sigh of anxiety or weakness the kids exploit it and fuck up the class.
Being a teacher is one of the most underpaid hard jobs. It not worth it unless you really have a devotion for it.

>>12584564
I wasn't an English major so I'm an outsider looking in giving advice BUT

There are a number of options that I see are available to you:
1. if your grades were good you can crawl back into the safe warm womb of academia and get a masters, potentially increasing the likelihood of getting a job
2. depending on how good your grammar skills are you could become an editor (a friend of mine was an English major and did this. It is, however, very competitive)
3. get a job in retail/labor/food service and power through your autism, allowing you to read books in your spare time
4. kys

Hope this helps

>>12584867
truer words were never spoken

>>12584564
>however i have never had a job and dont have any friends or connections

Honestly? Just kill yourself. I'm in the same place as you and it's pretty much my plan after I graduate too.

>>12584811
Well shit OP, I feel bad for you. Have you atleasy meet any decent girl which read "decent" books?
By "decent" i simply mean everything expect the run of the mill shit girly novels, TV series books and cringy tier politics teachings for teens.

I feel like as time moves on newer generations create relationships less and less when they reach adulthood. The amount of single people entering the job market without ever being in a relationship is stagering high.
I came very surprised when i checked opun my highschool friends when they finished their STEM degrees and all of them (including their circles of friends) were kv by the time they finished the master's degree. And they still are now.

>>12585009
no i dont talk to anyone

>>12585009
This is incredible to me honestly.
I popped my cherry when I was 17 and I've always been a cringey STEM fag that's about a 5/10.

It makes me wonder how robots are made. If you talk to enough people it should happen for you eventually, it's a numbers game.

>>12585105
How old are you my sweet summer child?

>>12585142
21 desu
op here btw the only thing I do have going for me now that i think about it is that i am strong and have a good body what can i do with this? i was lifting at least i guess.

>be STEM fag
>good at it but shits boring
>not one class has interested me
>even my extracurriculars are boring as shit
>secretly wished I was a history major but muh jobs

what are your favorite books autist-kun?

>>12585159
>the only thing I do have going for me now that i think about it is that i am strong and have a good body what can i do with this? i was lifting at least i guess.
That seems very vague and a narrowed way of describing yourself anon.
Dont worry about it though, its better if you dont rush anything and see how life plays out. Continue doing the shit that you enjoy.

>>12584564
go to grad school and become a professor of literature. they don't do anything except sit around and read all day either.

>>12585183
i like the book of discomfy and bleak house

>>12585200
Where are you from OP?

>>12585212
im in ny

>>12584564
you've made a huge mistake

>>12585233
my life was a mistake

>>12585159
manual labor i guess

>>12585238
None are mistakes

>>12584564
What school?

>>12584867
I'm an English teacher right now and this statement has perfectly described my life.

Major in STEM and you will regret it; major in Humanities you will regret that too. Major in either, you will regret both.

>>12585247
I wont say but it is not really prestigious but it is an ok school and has a decent liberal arts program

>>12585257
>this

Grass is always greener, the real answer is to try and find something that allows you to live and another that will make you happy

>>12584564

You should have majored in Library Science. In the meantime, get a job at a library. You have to be honest with yourself at all times,OP, pursuing a costly degree in both time and money without any end goals is asinine. The year is still young so change it up.

>>12585285
I was gonna check this out, but I think i remember them not being paid very well at all.
(Not OP)

>>12585285
my school wasnt really costly

>>12584867
It may be hard but teachers can make good money. Especially when you consider that they only work 9 months out of the year. Yes, yes, I know that the starting salary for a teacher is between 35-40000. But, thats what most college graduates start at.

Try IT op, shits piss easy only need a few certs you wont really have to talk to anybody that much and usually decent downtime to read

>>12585318
Forgot pic

>>12585295

$54,000- 85,000 a year is pretty comfy. Best thing about it isn't too taxing on the body so one would still have the energy to pursue further reading or writing after work.

>>12585359
>alaska
what the fuck? that's a weird outlier desu

>>12585318
When you are dealing with sub 18 year olds its always gonna be hard, the salary and the other "benefits" you get as a teacher arent really worth the brain damage you will receive at the end of the career.
I honestly think that the process formation for teachers should be harsher and more selective for those who can inspire best, deal with the harrasment, pscicology of the kids and not serve as automatons.
This is of course should come with higher salaries and better "benefits".
But i guess the education system is not really something the goverments desires to improve that much in so little time, since they also benefit a lot from ignorancy and "slave labour".

>>12585359
Im not from USA so i cant really speak in that regard.

>>12585393
not american but doesn't the US government love to give money to Alaska?

>>12585393
Small population, extremes in weather, costly produce. They're probably having a shortage in teachers and workers so they're looking for transplants to relocate.

>>12585285
op here this seems interesting thanks for the suggestion

>>12585428

No problem and I hope everything turns out well for you.

>>12584680
Bank of Mom and Dad or he lives in Europe.

>>12584564
>hate stem with every bone in my body
Stopped reading there. I hope you fail, anon.

>>12585522
stem is boring

>>12584564
>>hate stem with every bone in my body
Oof. You're not supposed to follow your passions. Follow the market.

Sounded like me roughly a year ago. No internships, no professional experience? Rough, try to get some sort of entry level gig, perhaps move to a big city, work whatever you can until something pans out. Nothing? Maybe grad school. If you’re even more adventurous and serious about the /lit/ life, start traveling and taking up odd jobs, you’re fit right? Don’t mind a bit of work? I did moving, pays well and the crew was a mixture of convicts/artists/actors.

Some of us weren’t meant for “success” as it is colloquially known, the breadth of possible pursuits is sadly growing smaller. Academia seems like an ideological echo chamber, and very competitive. good luck

>>12584867
I'm an English teacher, have been for a couple years, in a non-English speaking country, working in the private sector and earning comfortable money as I complete my MA. I only work with adults, mostly one-to-ones at companies, and the job is honestly a really light one. I also teach at a Callan school, which is easy as fuck. Teaching can be an okay career, although I'm treating it as a crutch until I graduate and probably go into corporate for a while. I'm not a very social person either and I managed to make a living out of it without much effort, I was a kv too until like 25. You can make it if you try, OP.

how can anyone hate stem? it’s like you are 100 years behind

>>12585595
what are you doing now?

Bump

>>12584564
I get you OP, i feel like the ultimate loser. I just like being in my own little world all day long. I'm nearly retarded when it comes to practical matters. I can pretty much only think in abstraction and logic. I lack all common sense, can't talk to people irl. People think I'm autistic or high 24/7 everywhere I go. I didn't sign up for this.

>>12586279
some of you can really write
depression causes psycho-motor retardation:
—speak slowly
—move slowly
—can’t concentrate
—everything requires great effort
I keep in mind I’m a retard, and I get out of bed

>>12586300
I already had psycho-motor retardation before I got depressed, it only worsened the symptoms. In fact it might've also caused the depression in the first place.
Whenever I had to do some kind of dancing or performance that required good motor control, I was just horrible. This led me to believe I'm not musical, when in fact I'm more musical than 90% of people I know. I just can't express it with my body.

>>12586313
interesting
assumed depression caused it

>>12586344
My theory is that I have a sort of practical dyslexia. Basically the opposite of dyslexia, dyspraxia.
They are both working memory deficits, only in different parts of the brain. Dyslexia often comes with a deficit in verbal working memory, whilst dyspraxics struggle more with the visuo-spatial aspects of reality.
My verbal working memory is very developed, but I feel like I had to pay for that by losing some of my practical working memory.
Of course I make it seem like the brain is like some skill tree from an RPG, but I often find that people are rarely good in both of those areas.

>>12586422
very interesting
wonder if thinking in images, suppressing words, or just not thinking at all would help

>finished 4 years of school without ever having a job

based and Oblomov-pilled

>>12586300
I sincerely doubt 99.9% of the people on this board who claim they have depression don't. Everyone has down times but real depressed people don't say or act depressed. I knew of a person who was perfectly normal always caught the bright things I said just a cool dude, turns out the guy had criss-cross cuts all over his thighs testing himself. Don't fake depression you make yourself out to be attention craving asshole

>>12586482
do******

>>12585168
I'm a history major, and "muh jobs" is a pretty spooky thing. The work load is stupidly high, too, but the material is usually interesting and relatively rewarding to work on

>>12586482
Well, I’d just shotgun myself, never thought of cutting

>>12586495
yeah, at least I'm guaranteed a well paying job, albeit it'll be boring. I can always be /lit/ and /his/ on the side

>>12584601
Take some acting classes and then act like you are good at teaching - I promise you it will work with time.

>>12586482
they’re depressed, be glad you’re not
my favorite author is a depressive, just found out today
watch this if you want to learn about depression
https://youtu.be/NOAgplgTxfc

>>12585307
You are a CUNY fag aren't you?
Are you a Hunter student?

>>12585536
>Follow the market

Thats the most cucked thing I heard all day

>>12586535
queens desu

>>12584564
I'm in your same situation OP. I spent six years pursuing a STEM degree just caring about my grades but nothing more, I didn't bother in the slightest to form human connections (I was afraid and the whole thing has never been natural to me). Now I can clealy foresee the consequences of this: since I don't have any social network to look for a job I will have to accept any shitty job to avoid starvation while I slowly rot away on some lonely aparment. Suicide doesn't sound bad at this point.

>>12584564

I'm in the same boat, OP. I just graduated a couple months ago. I'm studying for the GRE now (going for a master's was a last minute decision because I hadn't had any internships or real job experience, so I thought well shit why not), can't really find much else in the way of degree-related work.

However, you could shoot for grant writing jobs. They pay well and seem comfy; you may need to intern/volunteer for a while, but that's ok if you live at home.
Also other non-profits. Don't fall for the corporate meme; you may make more money but what good will that do you if you work 60 hour weeks?
Or, be a librarian as others have mentioned. Likely will need a master's (that's my plan, or else something related to the humanities that isn't a gateway to a PhD program).

>>12586482
Craving attention is a symptom of depression for some people - they need validation

>>12584564
>dont really like cooking nor am i talented in it but i like eating tendies
>dont have any aspirations in taste or to create anything
>over the course of 4 years i have ate hundreds of mcnuggets and have learned about a wide array of sauces
>however i have never had a job and dont have any friends or connections
>graduate after this semester
i dont know what i am doing i just like eating fries. what will become of me? i wasnt meant for life.
Or you can change it to vidya, whatever.

>>12586556
You went to Queens College!? David is that you?

>>12586582
Trish?

>>12586591
Nah, Victor. I knew a guy named David from HS that graduated with an English degree from Queens College recently.

i have 3 semesters of uni left and this is basically me what do? i am gettijg an english degree btw. getting frienda is out of the questuon but what sort of internships/jobs should i search for?

>>12586824
Your school probably has an internship program where you can apply for stuff through them. Look into their career services department.

>>12584564
>tfw I also despise STEM (I'm genuinely a brainlet when it comes to anything mathematics or hard science based)
>tfw I can't form connections to the same extent because I'm a commuting student, so I don't make friends in the halls
>have attempted to apply for part time work, but with no luck
>reading and writing is literally the only things I'm good at-- I'm shit or mediocre at everything else
>the only extracurricular stuff I'm doing is writing articles for the Uni's magazine
>tfw academia is too comfy, and the world of work seems genuinely scary

I hate how this world tries to render certain skills unemployable, even if that's all your good at through no fault of your own.

>degree in English
did you at least minor in something?

>>12587231
minors dont matter they are just there to make certain people feel special

bump

>>12584564
I posted in this thread that you should become a teacher. That was a mistake, but I think I found something you can actually do: technical writing! tl;dr write manuals for programs created by autistic illiterate stemfags.

Here, take a look: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/technical-writers.htm#tab-1

This is perfect for you OP. Even though you said you're not very good at writing, you're still probably 10x better than the average STEMfag. You can thank you me later :D.

>>12586482
Retard

>>12587878
thanks for helping me fren

>>12588107
Love you anon. Hopefully one day you can return the favor.

>>12587878
Beware: I majored in Technical Writing, complete with friends and connections, but could not find anything more substantial than contract work. The absolute best chance you have in the industry is supplementing that contract work with a professor position following completion of a Master's AT LEAST. PhD will get you at a decent standard of living. Just getting a Bachelor's means nothing, and god help you if you didn't complete AT LEAST two internships in the field by graduation.

Agghhhh pleasy pity me guise :(((( i did bad in life :(((( ill post some sad reddit frog im so sad ughhh :(( please don't forget to subcribe to my blog

Bumping

>>12590101
Why? It's over, the OP got his help.

>hate stem with every bone in my body
>im too scared to become a teacher im not good at talking

Let me guess: you think you are more intelligent than people majoring in STEM. You are a pathetic loser.

>>12584564
Honest answer here OP, please read.

Continue studying, but this time you choose Library science. You get to continue reading a lot, everything you read will be relevant in your work, and being awkward or strange is the norm among students. If you are like me you wont get friends, but you will get a job that is enjoyable and that you will probably be very good at. Many Library courses also have you working for a few months at actual Libraries as part of the studies, and lots of students get a part-time job if they are active and show interest.

>Electrical Engineering chad
>enjoy trolling clueless recruiters on LinkedIn
>feel no anger toward my fellow man for their choice of career.

is a mls in library science really worth?

>>12584564
Aim to be a teacher or a book reviewer. Book reviewers are actually low paid and dime-a-dozen, you just need a degree.

>>12584564
Our only hope is suicide desu,i fucking hate this world and my mother should've aborted me

>>12584564
>Have learned about a wide array of things
>Hates science
Lol no you haven't

>>12591416
This. Being unable to science is unironically a learning disability.

I'm having a similar problem. I'm first year of college, and my plan throughout high school was to be a computer science major because I liked video games, but growing up, my passion was writing short stories and novels.

Do I major in computer science and get an easy 100k/year or take the greater risk and learn how to write? Which is easier to learn on my own time?

Depending on wear you live you could easily scrape by as a cleaner or something with minimal human interaction.

>>12591461
You can take your fucking major in computer science, have a nice paying job and still write/read as a hobby.
If that is still for some god damn reason not enough for you, you can spend a few years saving money and then quit becoming a neet.
Comp sci jobs are easy as shit so you will have more than enough free time to write your shitty novels on the side, dont worry anon.

>>12591611
Ty, that was actually good advice deadass

>>12591611
>>12591461
I'm in my 2nd year in Philosophy, but I have the potential to switch into comp sci now and already have completed the requirements for a philosophy minor. Should I do it?

>>12591999
That depends on you and your tastes.
Do you take interest in comp sci and think you already have learned enough of philosophy? If yes then there should be no problem doing it, you still have plenty of time to take all the degrees you want. If you take enough interest in those things and already have some good bases then you should finish it even faster than some students there.
There are a lot of people that go in just for the money without taking any interest in the field and spend about 8 years to finish their 3 year degree, so your case shouldnt be that bad.

GPA?

>>12591999
Based philosophy. 1st year anon here, comp sci pairs well with philosophy in that you use a lot of logic to create programs. That being said, don't fall for the "it's all logic" meme like I did when I got kicked hard in the ass with trig.

Overall, if you're going for a 4 year degree, comp sci is a good choice and 75% logic, but there's 25% math and don't let it surprise you. Anything else, the other anon said before I could.

>>12592057
3.7

>>12585285
Isn't library science only a masters?

>>12592043
>>12592197
Ok, I might just take a class in it this summer and see if I like it. Thanks anons

>>12585409
"Why improve our education system when we can get highly educated immigrant kids for free?" is probably what the government thinks

>>12592197
>but there's 25% math and don't let it surprise you. Anything else, the other anon said before I could.
Honestly the math courses (the compulsory ones anyways, and disregarding some more math focused degrees) is far from the hardest part of any stem degree worth it's salt.

>>12585684
boring work, time consuming work, challenging work, almost no potential for glory, vastly less interesting than the humanities, etc.

>>12592604
What's the potential for "glory" in the humanities?

>>12592590
Not that the math is hard, but it's so time consuming to write a program to determine whether or not a SAS has one, two, or no solutions with all the if statements