/lit/ - Literature

why the fuck arent there any bluetooth keyboards for the 2018 ipad that have rechargeable batteries? this shit is pissing me off

>>12605844
you can though, because the way you're feeling now is not permanent, which includes your entire conception of what is and is not possible. Many people recover from mental illnesses. Many don't of course, but you would be a fool to count yourself among them, especially in your already biased state.

It might not make sense now but it can, understand that it can change

>>12605844
*internet hug* don't worry anon, i'm depressed too. we weren't always depressed, and won't always be either. let's try to uplift ourselves a bit more each day, and hopefully over time it'll be measurable improvement

>>12605844
It's all just in your mind.

>>12605844
Everyone is mentally ill in one way or another. Hedonism, consumerism, etc makes everyone unhappy.
And I don't know if that makes you feel better, but most people are too egocentric to be judging you.

>>12605844
Focus your mind on the Here and Now;
an unoccupied mind will wander,
and so it will fall into traps - of desires, of temptations, of day dream visions of the future and the past - and all of it will lead only to pain.
Take control of the present: process the information, which lies before your senses and learn to use it, step by step, to build a peaceful future for yourself.

>>12606341
>everyone is mentally ill
>everyone is unhappy
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit. Stop equating people's suffering, are you too scared to admit that some are dealt a worse hand than others?
Aside from the last sentence that no one gives a shit, you're talking out of your ass.

If you have fucked up your brain chemistry, just start living a healthier lifestyle. Get enough (not too much) sleep, get comfortable social interaction if possible, sell your TV, delete social media, exercise everyday, meditate, eat healthy. Put effort into not being too low in the social hierarchy. Get off 4chan, YT and other sites that waste time. Don't watch too much porn.

IMO a person who does not do these things has no right to call themselves depressed. They're just people who live an unhealthy life and whine about feeling unhealthy. I also went through a phase where I researched suicide methods every day. You can do this.

If you feel like shit even after living healthy for a few weeks, try talking to a professional psychologists.

Suicide would be a stupid decision even if you don't believe me because you can't just kill yourself and then decide to try out another solution. But if you try the solutions I suggested and find that they don't work, you can still kill yourself.

>>12606657
>Brah just no fap and gym it

Redddit tier reply

>>12606667
Physical exercise is proven to raise mood and self esteem. You can't deny that exercising is good advice.

I never mentioned nofap because it's stupid bullshit.

I don't browse reddit.

What exactly is your problem?

>>12606678
>don't browse reddit
>reddit spacing

>>12606678
Excersise and good diet does help, but it doesn't solve the problem. Not the guy btw

>>12605861
been depressed for as long as i can remember
i want out!!!!

>>12606678
>I never mentioned nofap because it's stupid bullshit.
You defeated all your credibility and made yourself a hypocrite.

>>12606686
>you use many newlines which means you use reddit

Your entire argumentation makes no sense at all but thanks for convincing me to quit 4chan too.

>>12605844
Why do you care about what they think?

>>12606712
The only remotely convincing evidence for nofap I ever found was one chinese study where testosterone was raised after one week of not ejaculating, but the testosterone dropped again later. For people who are badly addicted to masturbation, nofap might be a help, but surely not for most people. There are many better ways to challenge willpower.

Bye guys I'm leaving 4chan again, wasting time online is not good for me

>>12606711
LEAVE ME BE
I WANT OUT

seriously though anon, you should read some books that you find your feelings identified in, it doesn't make the pain go away, but it helps you feel a little less lonely, the ones that did that for me are Methamophosis, Bukowskies short stories and Notes from the underground.

>>12605844
You have to realize how many other people feel exactly the same way
Watch Magnolia

>>12606783
>>12606802
yes, you ain’t alone, OP
you’ll suddenly understand certain books and films
depression & creativity are linked

>>12606657
great reply desu

>>12605844
I gotchu bro

>>12606657
>Put effort into not being too low in the social hierarchy

this is servile

>>12606738
Appeal to ignorance.

>>12606657
>temporarily escape despair via biochemical changes~~ xD
it will come back, and you'll get to commit suicide with a six packs.

I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams

>>12606657
>get comfortable social interaction if possible

>be me
>do everything on your list except above and maybe browse 4chan too much
>read pua
>be advised to approach hundreds of girls to get comfortable with it
>get depressed because the girls i see semi regularly in public who i would want to approach would almost assuredly reject me if these are the odds
>cant get excited about approaching other people to even practice, would just feel like i'm wasting my time and theirs
>spiral into self-doubt and never do anything
what's the point, bros? sometimes girls approach me, but it's always high-t socially aggressive girls who treat me like a novelty and move on from me quickly. life is bullshit.

>>12608415
Have you ever approached a girl?
Just do it pussy, it's either that or die alone

>>12606585
Holy fuck thank you for saying this shit. Depressed people are not noticably "depressed" I REPEAT depressed people don't look,act or doing anything that would suggest to anyone but themselves that they are depressed. I had a friend who made me and another friend very happy super fucking cool guy, only sometimes in specific setting or situations he would just shutdown and leave for the rest of the day, he would go MIA for the rest of the day no one knew what he was doing but the next day he'd say nothing of it just "Yea I just felt like leaving". Turns out guy was massively depressed and no one ever suspected anything. He hung himself and had his legs severely scarred from slashing them, im guessing testing himself. Don't you fucking anons dare act depressed when theres real people suffering sincerely from shit.

What is this /r9k/ trash doing on /lit/? Sage and report, people.

>>12610000
t. npc normie wasting our oxygen
Depressed people display behavior that indicated their altered mental state. It is obvious, and pathologically speaking, depression occurs for different reasons in most, but its symptoms remain the same.

>>12610000
based
>>12610021
t. neet that thinks hes depressed to find excuses on why he is failing at life.maybe you have anxiety issues dude don't blame the other guy.

>>12605844
Read The Foundation for Exploration

>>12610021
looks like someone got very obviously offended

>>12605844
We discuss literature here

>>12610000
these people should have reached out earlier then. it's in the genetics.

>>12610000
nice quads

>>12605857
>understand that it can change
It doesn't make the passing of time any less insufferable. Trying to instill faith in some arbitrary point in time that may not even exist.

>>12605844

Can you give example of why you are disconnected from reality please?

.Another fellow depressed Anon.

>>12605844
If you want some actual advice: change as much as you can in as little time as possible. Wear different clothes. Listen to different music. Change your sleep schedule, it doesn't matter if this change is to a "better" or "worse" sleep schedule, as long as it's different. Change the temperature in whatever environment you are in. Go to sleep naked? Then go to sleep with your clothes on, and vice versa. If you never open your window open your window. Eat different food. Read different books. Rest in different places. Change your environment. Anything. Change everything. As long as it's different.
That is the only way you can break out of the feedback loop of misery that you are stuck in. It's created habits (both physical and mental) that have caused you to stagger over time. The only way to get rid of misery is to get rid of the habits. The only way to get rid of habits is to ignore all your habits and create totally new, opposing ones.

>>12610221

not actually opposing ones, I you don't smoke don't start to smoke. But this is kind of good advice. You are not disconnected from reality as much you are dissatisfied from it. Try different things, and slowly.

For example it took me years to stop smoking, years to start reading as much as in the past again, months to do fitness, etc... Doing it every week at the beginning was a victory. Don't be so hard, be cool on yourself, nobody want an asshole to give them orders don't be your own asshole.

>>12610000
I'm sorry for your loss, that sounds bad, and this story definitely applies to how we should perceive 'real' vs 'fake' depression, but moaning about being depressed irl != talking to people on the internet about it anonymously
Your friend may well have discussed shit online and not told anyone.

>>12610221
this.

I've got an eating disorder, bipolar, etc. I recently changed my habits to try and support myself for a better healthier living. I was smoking weed there for awhile, recently stopped and it's helped me cope with my emotions better and feel so sedated. I own caffeine like a mother fucker probably not the best thing for me but whatever it helps keep me more in the manic state.

I don't deserve to be able to label myself as depressed. That is what Tumblr users do. They blame their failings on a spook. I am not that. The truth is that I'm disgusting. I'm an awful person. Everybody who has ever liked me was wrong. I'm snobbish, obnoxious and act superior. I don't deserve a girlfriend. I would be a terrible boyfriend. I would drag them down. I would go for one who talks about suicide because I don't deserve one who is happy. I would be completely closed off to them. Then I would suddenly start telling them everything. They'd see me for who I am. They'd be disgusted and scared. They'd leave and be right to do so. If they didn't, I'd make them. They'd see me as their crazy ex. While I find that idea arousing, they'd be wrong. I'm not crazy. I'm not depressed. I don't deserve to have anything to blame things on. I don't deserve sympathy. I don't deserve help. I don't deserve to have anyone paid to try and help me. I don't deserve to have my family want to help me. I don't deserve them mourning at my funeral, which is why I haven't killed myself. I don't deserve pills that make me think differently. I don't want pills that make me think differently. If I thought differently I would be deluding myself. If I thought anything positive about myself I would be deluding myself. People think I'm smart; they have low standards. Fucking Jordan Peterson would go over their heads. But there I am being snobby. I'm not smart. I'm not better than anyone else. I don't deserve to do anything other than shitpost on 4chan, consume entertainment or consume ''''art'''' or ''''pursue knowledge'''' for ultimately fake and disgusting reasons. I don't deserve to affect the lives of other human beings. I don't deserve anything, not even to have the satisfaction of dying or of wanting to die. Whenever I catch myself wanting to die I rip into myself until I submit.

I always seem to find compassion for other’s problems but, when it comes to my own, I’ll reflect on myself and see only reason for contempt. Most of the time I dig myself further into the hole when making sense of all the suffering.

>>12610047
Not a neet
>>12610069
Certainly not offended

What is with you little faggots? What happened to the smart people?

>>12610303
Have you tried psychoanalysis ?

>>12610248
Yeah even smoking. Pick up smoking if you are that desperate to live. As long as you are living in the end, and the change won't be one that ends with you cripplingly needing to rely on it (heroin, gambling, really intense escapism circa Henry darger).

>>12610303
You talk of depression being a spool, but don't realize "deserving" and "not deserving" themselves are spooks. You deserve what you have grabbed hold of. You want to deserve more? Grab hold of more.

>>12610303
So the cycle you have is downwards and downwards. Why not try upwards? Just for the shit of it.

>>12610320
>Certainly not offended
>What is with you little faggots?
>What happened to the smart people?

You sound entitled as shit go back to /pol/

>>12610391

I understand what you want to say. I just want to say that nicotine is a physically addictive substance and though should be classified with heroin and such.

I agree with you in that: If your life is not worth living then change your life.

>>12610221
I'm willing to try everything. So you think this shock therapy could reset my brain?

>>12605844
I know how feel anon. I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. I'm getting separated from the military and I'm moving back to my parents' house. A few years ago I hit myself in the head with a rock and I got a concussion. I feel like I was not meant for this world. I can't hold down a job. My mind feels so dissociated from my body. I can't thinl straight anymore.

>>12605844
>Everytime I see someone I know I can see them thinking in their head "wow this uncomfortable"
They are probably unaware of your existence. Nobody gives a fuck who you are.

>>12610643
>Nobody gives a fuck who you are.
100% this everyone has shit to deal with but can understand where OP is coming from I use to have anxiety issues

>>12605844
You can survive the year. The key is don't stress the year. Get through the day. The day isn't so big comparatively.
I recently got out of a major shit hole in my life. and the thing is, I know I'm gonna probably swing back into another one, mood swings are a bitch that way. But I must carry on. The trick is living through the day as micro-management health-oriented as I can. Worry about myself. Not others. That thing that you worry about that you said - "Wow this is uncomfortable" - you gotta learn to not give a fuck about that. or them. cause you see. They don't matter. They are like a passing fad. Unless you live in a small town you'll probably never ever see them again. I know. Easier said than done, but it can be done.

Try and meditate. Breathe slowly, for 5 minutes at the very least. Focus on the living world, not the people but the active world, the trees, the animals the sky, the clouds, the sun, the moon. and if you don't go for all that yogic bullshit nonsense. Just try and focus on changing your brains habits spiraling downward so much. I wish I could offer better advice. You'll get there anon.