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I'm going to edit, put together, and organize many classics of philosophy from gutenburg, for kindle, and putting together a torrent.

The only ones I see are terrible huge PDF's and most are not complete.

Here is where you come in, if you like.

Give me your 'must have' works of philosophy, or even authors and I'll add them. All will be .mobi format. I'll add them all.

I will not add things such as 'The Divine Comedy' or 'The Metamorphosis' and other things that were not philosophy to begin with.

I humbly ask your help on this /lit/, it keeps my mind off of my research paper on Swift due next class back from break.

Fuck.

>> No.1305120

The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying - Sogyal Rinpoche

Man in the Present, Past, Future and The Druid Priest and his Moonscience - Rudolf Steiner

>> No.1305121

>>1305120
Thank you, I'll also look up other works by the authors.

>> No.1305125

>>1305121
no that is fine gregorsapple I am just trolling you. Wait around for the nimrods who will suggest Plato and Bertrand Russel

>> No.1305126

>>1305120
good troll

>> No.1305132

>>1305125
I will admit, I had not heard of the works you posted, but it is a rather wide topic haha.

Plato will be there in completeness.

>> No.1305133

>>1305125

What the hell is wrong with Plato?

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mfw Pete And Bernie's Philosophical Steakhouse is closed

>> No.1305139

>>1305133

nothing Nietzsche and Wittgenstein didn't sort out

>> No.1305142

>>1305137
Again, it's up to you.

It takes as much effort to list a few names/works as it does to make an unhelpful post.

>> No.1305145

>>1305139

>Nietzsche
>implying he is coherent as a philosopher

Nigger, you must be trollin'.

>> No.1305148

Hume - An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
Kant - Critique of Pure Reason, Critique of Practical Reason, Critique of Judgement
Fichte - Wissenschaftslehre
Hegel - Phenomenology of Spirit, Science of Logic
Feuerbach - Philosophy of the Future

>> No.1305150

I don't care what you think about the philosophers themselves. I just need names.

People can read and make up their own minds.

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>>1305121

>> No.1305152

>>1305148
Thank you.

>> No.1305156

Gorgias
The Nicomachean Ethics
Summa Theologica

>> No.1305160

Descartes and Spinoza

>> No.1305169

>>1305120
>Man in the Present, Past, Future and The Druid Priest and his Moonscience

That sounds AMAZING

>> No.1305171

Thanks to all who have posted so far.

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>>1305145

>>1305115
Anyway OP here is my serious contribution, take em or leave em, I will keep it short;
Confucius (the analects)
Lao-Tzu (the tao)

>> No.1305175

Plato
Aristotle
Kant
Hume
Descartes
Socrates
Wittgenstein
Locke
Frege
Aquinas
Hegel
Leibniz
Spinoza
Mill
Hobbes
Augustine
Marx
Nietzsche
Kierkegaard

OP, you are a fucking bro for doing this. I see far too many pdf's that are unusable or badly formatted txt docs.

If you can include chapter links, or even better, linked annotations, then you are a god amongst men. Anywho, thanks.

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The Stranger by Camus.

Sartre was a phony who believed in communism (responsible for so many atrocities in the 20th century).

>> No.1305180

>>1305172
Had the tao, didn't have the other, thanks.

>> No.1305182

Get rid of all that gutenberg crap in the documents. Those people are shameless in the way they clutter a page. Also, where are you uploading? Demonoid?

And as for my contribution - Berkeley

>> No.1305186

I would be very interested in this, as I am too lazy to do it myself. Kindles are great, having to actually download everything individually isn't.

>> No.1305187

>>1305177
Awesome post, thanks. I figure I will take out as much of the legal garbage of gutenburg, compile all these as best as possible, then, if they are not correctly formated for chapter links, I will add them myself.
>>1305175
Is The Stranger really considered a work of philosophy?

>> No.1305188

You think you could get some essays by Camus or Sartre? I know they aren't on Gutenberg but if you could...

thanks

>> No.1305196 [DELETED] 

>Is The Stranger really considered a work of philosophy?
Probably not, I was just hoping someone such as D&E would jump on it.

>> No.1305200

>>1305186
I will be uploading on Demonoid, but I don't care where it's spread or shared as I just want people to have an easy way to get all of this for e-readers. I will also be removing the billions of legal pages gutenburg throws in there. Thanks for the contribution!
>>1305186
Exactly. Finding properly formated works of philosophy for e-readers is really hard.
>>1305182

>> No.1305204

>>1305200

>post links fucked up

Are you browsing this thread from your Kindle? Is this your first time on the internet?

>> No.1305206

>>1305196
>Tybrax tried to troll me today. Or yesterday maybe, I don't know.

>> No.1305207

4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

There's no need to reinvent the wheel.

>> No.1305210

>>1305188
I used Gutenburg as a reference, I will of course find and edit works that cannot be found on there as well.

I'll pass on The Stranger for this collection, but I must say I did enjoy it.

>> No.1305220

>>1305207
This is another reason I made this thread. That image of works is horrible. Randomly placed nonsense and half collections, or multiple works under one new made up name for them.

I gathered what I could from it.

>> No.1305223 [DELETED] 

>>1305206
Not really 'troll', I just remember you once saying that Sartre has the edge over Camus but now I know what their fall-out was about & Sartre is just a squinty-eyed, filthy commie.

>> No.1305271

Thanks to all, this is where my work begins.
Plato
Bertrand Russel
Nietzsche
Hume (An Enquiry Concerning Human Understand)
Kant (Critique of Pure Reason, of practical reason, of judgment)
Fichte (Wissenschaftslehre)
Hegel (Phenomenology of Spirit, Science of Logic)
Feuerbach (Philosophy of the Future)
Gorgias (The Nicomachean Ethics, Summa Theologica)
Descartes
Spinoza
Confucius (the analects)
Lao-Tzu (the tao)
Aristotle
Socrates
Wittgenstein
Locke
Frege
Aquinas
Leibniz
Mill
Hobbes
Augustine
Marx
Kierkegaard
Sartre
Berkeley
Camus (maybe)

Any more can be added, I'll be checking the thread randomly, and be posting updates and the completed work.

>> No.1305284

Excellent. How long do you think it will take? Just so we know how long to keep this thread bumped like...

btw I think Sartre and Camus would be great additions, but you don't have to post the novels, I think they are plentiful enough. Find some essays if you can. Thanks.

>> No.1305286

What does /lit/ think of Bertrand Russell?

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>>1305271
>Marx

>> No.1305308

>>1305300

yeah, /lit/ is a liberal shithole

I'm just glad no one had the nerve to post Zizek


also, nice dubs

>> No.1305312

don't forget Stirner

>> No.1305316

Engels
Kautsky
Kropotkin

>> No.1305318

>>1305286
Even more of an old fart than Schopenhauer

>> No.1305325

>>1305115
Hello OP

In case project is successful (understand 75% satisfied litfags and torrent seeds), would you care to also do it for lit's "official" must-read lists ?

>> No.1305328

>>1305271
also

when you only write an author's name, does it imply bibliography, philosophical bibliography, or selected selection of the most important philosophical works ?

>> No.1305330

>>1305115
samefag again, forgot

Thank you for a useful thread on lit OP

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Turgot
Bastiat
Acton
Molinari
Mises
Rothbard
Long

>> No.1305360

>>1305332
forgot Rand, you fucking libertardian faggot

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Arthur Schopenhauer - The World as Will and Representation

essential in an philosophy collection

>> No.1305390

>>1305284
Well, I am on Thanksgiving break, but this project seems like it will take quite a while, depending on how many works it will have in it.

Without the editing and chapter points, less than a week, with, maybe a month or so, hopefully less.
>>1305332
>>1305316
>>1305312
Will add to list.
>>1305325
I might, given the time
>>1305328
It means complete, or as complete as I can get it, and I will strive to make sure it is.

>> No.1305393

>>1305381
Sounds good.
Just to make the quality of the collection/torrent good, I will be researching each name to make sure it is indeed "Philosophy"

>> No.1305396

>>1305360

Rand was neither a philosopher nor an economist nor an antistatist. u mad?

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>>1305393
>Schopenhauer
>will search to be sure it's "philosophy"

>> No.1305412

>>1305390
I am baffled as this is easily the best thread/discussion/endeavor on lit in a looooooooong THATSWHATSHESAID time.

btw OP, I'm kinda free lately, if you need help, add me @email field

>> No.1305417

>>1305411
I was about to rage hard, but then I realized those two thoughts were meant to be separate.

>> No.1305425

>>1305396
Liberals claim to be open to hearing opposing views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are indeed opposing views.

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>>1305396
>Objectivism is a philosophy created by the Russian->American philosopher and novelist Ayn Rand (1905–1982)

EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

because wiki put aside, as long as a writer spawns a whole doctrine of philosophy, it doesn't have to be in the form of lenghty monologue-ish non-fiction akin to your heroes.

>> No.1305450

>>1305417
>>1305411
Correct, I was just adding that I would be doing research on some of the people I don't know about, I didn't mean to imply Schopenhauer was not philosophy.

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aristotle - metaphysics lambda
nicolaus cusanus / nikolaus of kues - de docta ignorantia (fuck yeah monism)
hans blumenberg - the legitimacy of the modern age
thomas s kuhn - the structure of scientific revolutions (MUST READ)
michel foucault - archeology of knowledge
max horkheimer/theodor w. adorno - dialectic of enlightenment (if you're into the frankfurt school)

>> No.1305499

Bergson
Deleuze
Heidegger

>> No.1305501

I find it hilarious that the more popular names here are the hardest to find. I will never understand why people are so hard up for PDF. I guess because it's simple to scan things and be done with it.
>>1305468
Thank you! Added to the list.

>> No.1305544

The Manifesto of the Communist Party - Marx
On The Jewish Question - Marx
Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right - Marx
1844 Manuscripts - Marx

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>>1305431
>objectivism
>philosophy

>> No.1305550

>>1305545
quick quotes with no constructive or phrased argumentation whatsoever

behold

the cancer that is killing lit

>> No.1305551
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1305551

>>1305544

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>>1305550
>constructive argument
>wikipedia

>> No.1305568

>>1305557
you FAIL at trolling for CHRIST sake STOP.

in layman's terms

>internet
>philosophy

ask a teacher about rand and philosophy, get answer, swallow cocks

>> No.1305570

as long as there's no postmodern faggotry then I approve

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>>1305568

lolbutthurt

>> No.1305582

>>1305551

You sure showed me, posting that political cartoon like that.

Whether you agree with Marx or not, you should acknowledge that he's an important thinker

>> No.1305589

>>1305551
>mistaking personal property for private property

>> No.1305606

This goes faster than I thought.
Four are done already, and I haven't spent much time on it.

I will be including anything that is considered philosophy. I'm not going to be biased as this will be a go to collection of philosophy.

>> No.1305622

>>1305589
Proof all commies are inconsistent hypocrites when it comes to property.

>> No.1305632

>>1305606

It's best just to break it down into categories so there's some kind of organization and so everyone will get what they want out of it. It would also be very handy for those who are noobs to philosophy. I remember when I was new I was so confused I basically read a bunch of different people with no type of context or coherent structure. It's pretty hard to learn that way

>> No.1305640

>>1305632
I highly agree, when I am done hunting them all down, I will ask /lit/ to classify as best they can. If by nothing else other than age/era

>> No.1305643

>>1305582

>important
>implying he hasn't been debunked for well over a century

baww all philosophers should be treated the same despite their flawed logic.

>> No.1305653

>>1305544
Menger>Marx


Marginalism ftwww

>> No.1305689

Just read Sextus Empiricus and leave this fuckwits to bore someone else.

>> No.1305694

You NEED to include Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius

>> No.1305717

On many of these, I have to wait on sources to pop back up, and then format them into mobi. So I will just go through them all, finding the ones I can find, and then going back and digging for the rest.

A lot of the German ones I'm having trouble finding translations of, the ban of all of this is that most are easy to find in bloated, stupid, hard to read and idiotic to navigate, PDF's.

>> No.1305718

>>1305318

i was kinda hoping for a real answer...

>> No.1305723

Wittgenstein - Tractatus-Logico Philosophicus, Philosophical Investigations
Heidegger - Being and Time, Holdlerlin's Hymn "The Ister", On the Way to Language
Hans-Georg Gadamer - Truth and Method, Who Am I and Who are You?

>> No.1305731

>>1305271
This excites me greatly, but if you're going to have both Lao-Tzu and Confucius you've GOTTA throw some Buddhism in there. Like for reals.

>> No.1305744

>>1305723
>>1305694
Both added, thank you for your contributions!
>>1305731
Well, Buddhism is more of a religion than Taoism is, as Taoism is more of an idea than a religion.

I will give it considerable thought!

>> No.1305764

>>1305744
Aight nigga gimme some quran & some jewshit i wanna try da convert after i finish da shoppinhour

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>>1305764
>jews

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1305775

>>1305764

>> No.1305786

>>1305744
>Buddhism is more of a religion than Taoism
You sure about that?

>> No.1305788

Include the Bible. No trolling. Include King James and a modern translation that doesn't come from too political a background. Yes, it is religious, but it's also philosophical in parts. Also has immeasurable significance as an influencer.

I would also agree that you include Buddism. Some branches of Buddism (Pure Land) are indeed religious but there are also branches (Zen) that are nearly wholly metaphysical.

>> No.1305795

>>1305643

You shouldn't ask whether a thinker is still relevant, you should ask how our current situation would look to the thinker. To do the former presupposes an arrogant position, and you'll learn more by practicing the latter.

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>>1305788
Unless there will be a huge outcry at the exclusion of religious texts, they will not be in this collection.

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>>1305795
>You shouldn't ask whether a thinker is still relevant
I wasn't asking, I was stating. Deal with it.

>> No.1305811

>>1305796
You need them for understanding/context for many philosophers. It's for this reason they get included in lists like:
http://www.interleaves.org/~rteeter/grtbloom.html

And why the KJ version of the bible is included with a modern one.

>> No.1305813

>>1305796
Yo
I was niggatrollin

the others seemingly are not

for the love of god ignore them, they don't know the word theology exists for a reason

>> No.1305820

>>1305813
>Implying religious texts = theology
Uh oh, spaghetios...

>> No.1305821

>>1305807

You asked yourself the question (consciously or unconsciously) "Is Marx still relevant?" and came to the conclusion that he's not, and then decided to ignore him entirely.

By taking this arrogant position, you're depriving yourself of knowledge, and acting ignorant and obnoxious.

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Is The Prince on there? Put The Prince on there

>> No.1305830

>>1305811
If I included everything that ever influenced a philosopher... well....

I said in the OP that I would not be including 'fringe' philosophy, and I do not think anyone reads the bible for philosophical reasons alone.

If people want to broaden the scope and go outside of just the works of philosophy, then that is their choice. A good one, I admit, but something this collection will not cover.

>> No.1305834

>>1305820
...............

How is reading about God not studying God

Seriously

Enlighten me how any religious book isn't a work of research on faith and everything spiritual

From time to time /lit/, you should just respect some threads and leave them alone without throwing your monkeyshit.

>> No.1305842

>>1305830
Ok, good point, I can go with that.

There are some names over here too >>1304838

>> No.1305843

>>1305821

So it's arrogant that I have concluded through simple reason and logic that Marx is completely irrelevant? Even Marx himself would discard his archaic theories if he stumbled upon today's world which we all know runs on marginalism. And that makes leftists butthurt.


I'd say his main relevance in today's world would be to show people what *not* to do and the dire consequences of erroneous inconsistent logic.

>> No.1305844

>>1305834
How is listening to music not studying music?

>> No.1305846

>>1305843
>which we all know runs on marginalism
Do ho ho.

>> No.1305852

>>1305846

>raging asspain detected

Enjoy being banished to the 19th century where you belong.

>> No.1305855

>>1305852
>is still talking like an arrogant 15 year old

Enjoy going to highschool where you belong.

>> No.1305859

>>1305852
>I don't need to provide evidence. I'm right.
>I don't need to explain my logic.

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>>1305852
indeed

>> No.1305874

>>1305855
>>1305859
>>1305863
Sure is dark ages in here. I love how simple reason is greeted with such hostility on a supposedly intellectual board. Enjoy your homogeneous leftist echo chamber. Not to mention your complete ignorance of basic economics.

>> No.1305876

Also,

>arrogant 15 year old
>Marxists

Pick two

>> No.1305879

>>1305876
>>1305874
When (or if) you get to Uni, you'll realize what you think Marxism is isn't what Marxism is.

Also, reason doesn't mean making patronizing, unauthoritative statements and expecting everyone else to go "Oh, you so smart, we totally agree." It also doesn't mean getting butthurt and not defending those statements when challenged about them.

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but anyway, anything past The German Ideology is nothing more than "I'm a real boy" social science garbage

>> No.1306047

>>1305879
>making patronizing, unauthoritative statements
>When (or if) you get to Uni, you'll realize what you think Marxism is isn't what Marxism is.


Nice butthurt, broseph. Then again, this isn't the first time leftists have been accused of hypocrisy.

You'd love to think anyone who doesn't conform to your mass ideology is just confused or uneducated. You'd love to think all opposing views are easily dismissible. There's a reason the only place Marxism is still relevant is its diminishing presence amongst career academics.

>> No.1306075

>>1306047
Nice non-statement. Also:
>the only place Marxism is still relevant is its diminishing presence amongst career academics

Is not true. Or, in so much as it might be true, is equally true for other perspectives/schools (like neo-liberalism for example).

>> No.1306103

>>1306047
Hmm, I've always considered Marx's economics philosophy, (though I never read das Kapital), to be largely useless, I still think there is something to be said for the methodology that examined ideology in terms of underlying pressures on society. Namely, for him, the means of production.

I don't put much stock in communism, except as an implausible utopia. And I don't really know what a pure "Socialist" system would be.

But that one contribution of looking at ideas as practical things instead of some pure objective rational things, was pretty good.

>> No.1306123

>>1305643
In general there is no such thing as a debunked philosopher, only ones that have become unpopular. There isn't a clear answer to any of the questions.

>> No.1306139

>>1305271
>Socrates

>> No.1306161

>>1306139
I was going to say:
>Name a book by Socrates.
But now I see what you mean. Also, no Seneca or Epicurus, and I dread to think who else is missing.

OP is a fag.

>> No.1306185

>>1306123

That's because the bulk of philosophy is unfalsifiable self indulgent wankery completely irrelevant to the real world.


Much like Marx.

>> No.1306192

>>1306185
What do you hope to achieve with that comment?

>> No.1306194

>>1306185
The bulk? what's the remainder?

That doesn't mean its not awesome however

>> No.1306199

>>1306194

>The bulk? what's the remainder?

The philosophers I like.

>> No.1306212

>>1306194

the small chunk that we can actually use in the real world to aid our sense of reasoning. logical fallacies, for example.

>> No.1306219

>>1305551

It's more like
Left guy "Hey can I have that pen?"
Right guy "you already have one issued by the state, if you need another go down the hall to the Pen department."

>> No.1306224

>>1306219
Hey did you know that the Amana colonies were a self sufficient commune that survived for nearly a century. Around 1930 they switched to private property.

>> No.1306228

>>1306224

What does that have to do with anything?

>> No.1306230

>>1306224
what a lovely story, everything went better than expected :)

>> No.1306231

>>1306228
People arguing that communism can't work. Historical evidence that it can work well, until the great depression hits... also if I recall correctly the great depression was a consequence of the capitalists.

>> No.1306243

>>1306231
>if I recall correctly the great depression was a consequence of the capitalists.

You don't recall correctly.

>> No.1306250

>>1306231
The Great Depression was caused by an expansion of the money supply by the Fed.

>> No.1306265

>>1306231
almost anything can work on a small enough scale. some shitty commune isn't evidence that communism on a large scale works. Individualism tends to get in the way eventually. social engineering (brainwashing) only does so much.

>> No.1306271

>>1306250

Gb2 Austria

>> No.1306273

>>1305175
That's a kick-ass list.

To Marxism troll: You should not read Hegel and Kant without reading Marx. If you skip Marx, you won't understand what the fuck the pre-War Continentals were yammering about.

>> No.1306289

>>1306271

It's the accepted mainstream view, not some crazy Austrian shit. The Fed increased interest rates in the middle of a recession. The consequences are (now) obvious.

>> No.1306312

>>1306289
>trying to reason with leftists

Don't even go there, bro :(

>> No.1306326

don't you morons realize philosophy is dead? get in with the physical sciences broski's

>> No.1306337

>>1306326

Philosophy is more alive than ever. We live in a world where damn near everyone is some degree of philosopher.

>> No.1306339

>>1306326
Stop holding onto you're ridiculous modernist world view.
Welcome to the post-modern world, people refuse the tyranny of science, science only serves as a means to technology. It can no longer act as the successor to god, in a world deprived of meaning. Its an ideology that's pretty much permeated all contemporary culture.

>> No.1306345

>>1306337
maybe that's the problem


>>1306339

>implying post modernism isnt everything that's wrong with the state of philosophy today

>> No.1306353

>>1306345
>implying that post-modernism isn't the greatest philosophical movement ever.

>> No.1306375

>>1306345
you sound like a weeping manchild.. the days of bourgeois intellectualism are long dead

>> No.1306409

>>1306353
>incredible faggot detected

>>1306375
>bourgeois
Sure is teenage sloganeering in here, how cute.

I like how everything is scapegoated as a "class struggle." I guess actual scholastic integrity and logical consistency are too "elitist" for the armchair casuals who want to feel important and part of the discussion. Let's give everyone a gold medal just for trying while we're at it!

>Egalitarianism is a mental disorder

>> No.1306412

>>1306409

Edgy conservative detected.

>> No.1306429

I love you GregorsApple for doing this. I have nothing to add (since I've never read any philosophy but hope to once you complete your collection) but, thank you.

>> No.1306430

>>1306412
and now comes the ad hominem, the final stage of raging asspain is complete!

>> No.1306431

>>1306409
Humans are not logical rational animals, so why should we demand it our truth?

>> No.1306434

>>1306409
welcome to collective society! please die off

>> No.1306435

>>1306430
Its only an ad hominem if he uses an attack on the speaker to undercut their argument. You presented no actual argument, therefore there can be no ad hominem. Moreover, You clearly are conservative, why are you taking offense to it? Do you not like being edgy? why is edginess bad, or good for that matter?

>> No.1306464

>>1306431
That's like saying the world is imperfect, therefore, we should make no attempt to improve/move forward. I must say, that's not very *progressive* of you. :(
>>1306434
The collective is an abstraction, there are merely individuals acting according to their own personal and subjective desires. Like most people, you seem to assume individualism means outright solidarity which is a common misconception.
>>1306435
I'm neither conservative nor edgy. I'm actually pretty boring which is probably why I'm wasting a beautiful brisk night on 4chan. Nice attempt at strawmaning though. Perhaps logic simply isn't your cup of tea?

Also, the whole, "call anyone who disagrees with you edgy" thing is very old at this point.

>> No.1306481

>>1306464
>we should make no attempt to improve/move forward

But we have no forward, there is no such thing as forward. Humanity doesn't advance towards an end. The forward direction is arbitrary.

>> No.1306507

>>1306481

>this is what postmodernists actually believe

The barriers of injustice and coercion in society today may not be as evident in the past but they are certainly still there. I agree that everyone's idea of an ideal society is subjective which is why I support a free society where individuals are free to live their own lifestyles free from the involuntary force of monocentric state institutions.

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>>1306507
Please don't seriously posit a progressive view of history on my internet, it does make me sad. Go read something.

>> No.1306526

Principles of the Philosophy of the Future - Feuerbach

I just edited it all from random HTML's, manually spell checked it which uncovered massive amounts of errors that are fixed now, I do not yet have the bookmarks in this one but it is at least all together in mobi format.

I think my brain has almost caved in at the extreme dullness of spell checker.

In any case, I've got at least ONE work of his in the collection now.

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>>1306526
>manually spell checked it
I say we donate to gregorsapple@paypal.com

>> No.1306546

>>1306525
>mfw post modernists play word games straight to their own "arbitrary" enslavement

You'll have plenty of time being sad when you're Tyrone's bitch after the inevitable collapse of the state.

>> No.1306548

>>1306481
Would not total entropy be an end?

That is to say, everything tends towards entropy, therefore has an end.

>> No.1306552

>>1306464
>there are merely individuals acting according to their own personal and subjective desires

are you denying shared subjectivity? the existence of groups?

>> No.1306563

>>1306548
End as in purpose not end as in temporal conclusion.

Plus you could say that, the universe tends towards total entropy, but humanity is not a closed system. More over the impact of entropy on "humanity" isn't really clear cut.

>> No.1306569

>>1306546
Who the hell is Tyrone? I think you mean TyBrax.

>> No.1306571

>>1306552
Sure it exists, I just finished stating that I fully endorse free association; the mutual consent/cooperation of individuals. Look up voluntarism, polycentric order, etc

>> No.1306573

Can you give us a list of what you have so far (or what you're getting), OP? I had quite a bit of philosophy in various formats, but I believe all of those files are gone. I'm very interested in replacing these, thanks!

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Cool thread guys but check out my dubs

>> No.1306591

>>1306581
random dubs post mid thread
clearly misnamed file
twilight

That is the most mind blowing troll post i've ever seen. Congrats sir.

>> No.1306592

these threads are always useless because idiots who read half a wikipedia page yammer on about excluding ridiculously important writers because of slights to their tender egos and politics.

>> No.1306603

>>1306573
Right now it's so touch and go, some I have to dig deeper on, some I will have /lit/ review and tell me if I need to dig deeper to find something if it is a 'must have' by the author.

I'm doing a once over to grab the easy stuff, and making notes in a separate file on which ones I will return to and get more on/make into proper ebooks from html/text files.

>> No.1306612

>>1306592
Though in more general the debate is always between people who view philosophy as a cumulative activity wherein studying the past though dated philosophers and the methods of philosophy over time is a worthy end in itself, and the people who read philosophy for some specific ends, to get a answers to questions, they tend to want to only read the works of a certain few philosophers they agree with.

It just depends what you want to get out of the endeavor.

>> No.1306615

>>1306563
To which I would remind you that with total entropy comes the end of this universe.

Since we as humans are a VERY small part of this universe, we also would share in this ending.

I could even step back and say that since I as an individual tend toward entropy, then I most definitely have an end.

Everything ends. Its all eventual.

>> No.1306618

>>1306592
>yammer on about excluding ridiculously important writers

what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.1306634

>>1306615
Humans will be dead long before maximum entropy, an individual does not tend towards maximum entropy, the system does. You are increasingly ordered as your body processes energy and the rest of the universe increases in entropy. You might say your end is to increase the entropy in the universe, but that would mean you would be justified in becoming a mad scientist with a doomsday weapon.

>> No.1306657

>>1306573
I will say 6 of them are done, and half will be easy to find, the other will take most of my time, but I'm having fun hunting them down.

>> No.1306661

Emerson and Thoreau collections are important. You may exclude Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman, since it's a collection of poetry, but still a very important philosophical work. Romanticism needs to be represented too.

>> No.1306665

Eastern philosophy is almost totally ignored. I'll get on to compiling what Eastern works you should get OP, if you feel so inclined.

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>>1306634

>> No.1306672

>>1306665
yes please, eastern bros I can actually tolerate.

>> No.1306686

Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler.

>> No.1306825

>>1306661
Added to the list, thanks!
>>1306665
This sounds great, I would love to get some names.

>> No.1307060

>>1306592
lol someone's butthurt

>> No.1308074

inb4 OP doesn't deliver

>> No.1308154

>>1308074
You must be saying this in hopes the OP would get spurned by your comment, thus leading him to finish his project. Or you're a bad troll.

12 names are done, in the initial grabbing process, all in folders by name and alphabetized. I will have to go into each mobi, "break" it open, and remove/write a little HTML here and there, but anything to get rid of the idiotic endless pages of legal spew from Gutenberg.

Next would be making the ones I can't find into mobi, properly formated.

If anyone is interested in a 'before clean up' release to help me see what essentials I need that I'm missing (and there are some right now) or what I currently have that isn't needed (less work formating) just let me know, and I'll make a thread when the first round up has been done.

>> No.1308167

I THINK EVERYTHING IN HERE WAS COVERED WITHIN THE FIRST 30 POSTS OTHER THAN THOSE POSTS THE REST ARE FAGGOT PSEUDO PHILOSOPHERS WANTING TO MAKE IT BIG IN PHILOSOPHYWOOD

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>>1305723
>mfw i'm able to read wittgenstein and heidegger in german and still don't understand shit

>> No.1308240

OP is a bro.

I would help myself, but I can't even figure out how to remove the headers and footers on pdfs using Calibre :P

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>>1308167

>> No.1308262

I cant wait to see this collection, OP. sounds great.
by the way, browsing on my kindle right now!

>> No.1308583

>>1308240
15 Authors are done already! I'm having great trouble with finding anything but PDF's for some of this stuff, or translations. Converting PDF's to txt is not an option due to the... terrible formating issues. Unless there is some amazing program out there that makes pdf to txt legible.

I posted this in another thread, but here is something I'm proud of

Principles of the Philosophy of the Future by Ludwig Feuerbach KINDLE EDITION

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L9U2YJAF

Compiled and edited, spell checked, and formated, added linkable table of contents. I'm pretty sure it's the only one of it's kind.

>> No.1308606

>>1308583

It says the file is temporarily unavailable...any chance of a torrent? Demonoid?

>> No.1308610

>>1308583

Also how come it's prc istead of mobi? I know they are both kindle compatible but...well, what's the difference?

>> No.1308640

Being and Nothingness- Jean-Paul Sartre
Being and Time - Martin Heidegger
Either/Or- Kierkegaard
The Dialogues - Plato
The Prince - Machiavelli
The Confessions - Rousseau
Confessions - St. Augustine
Candide - Voltaire

>> No.1308644

>>1308606
hmmm, I'll upload to demonoid now.
>>1308610
I can convert it to mobi, but they are more or less the same format. The PRC filename was the originally used name, they later changed it to mobi to reflect the mobipocket name.

Another difference is that .prc is simply a 'container' file, it can be made of anything, technically, but it's only used for ebooks.

For all our purposes, however, it is essentially the same.

>> No.1308648

>>1308644

Cool, post the demonoid link when you're done, bro.

>> No.1308672

Here it is!
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/2464376/39091230/
Should be working on megaupload later as well, sorry it took me a bit.
>>1308640
The Prince and Candide will not be in this collection. Thank you for the others though!

>> No.1308683

>>1308672

Okay, downloading now. No action though yet, are you seeding?

>> No.1308788

>>1308683
Indeed I am, I made it with the correct tracker, and it's really annoying me.
http://www.mediafire.com/?yy0536kyy6thdnr
try that sir, I don't know why megaupload would still be down though.

>> No.1308842

>>1308788

okay, I'm checking it out on Calibre viewer (it looks the same as it would on my kindle) and it's pretty good. There are quite a few double spaces or longer which stand out and the spacing before and after titles looks a little varied but it's nothing major.

I noticed it starts on the history of philosophy and then the paragraphs are numbered. A few of them, 2 and 6 for instance, have titles like Protestantism or Theism. Are the other paragraphs supposed to be just numbered and not titled like this? Just wondering.

Thanks anyway, I'm looking forward to the rest. By the way, I'll have no internet for a few weeks in the next day or so, will you be uploading the full torrent to Demonoid on your account?

>> No.1308970

>>1308842
The spacing after titles took me long hours after which I said 'screw it' and got it as close as possible.

The weird double spaces seem to be a fault of the computer viewer, on my kindle I don't see them, or at least I didn't.

I wondered about adding the contents for the named numbers, but decided against it. The numbering format was the same with every source I checked, all 2 of them... so I decided to leave it unchanged, even though I must admit it does look a little odd.

When it is complete, the beta collection, the one that has unedited Gutenburg works in it, should be done in a few weeks, I hope less, with the rate I'm working at.

I'll be uploading it everywhere I can. Demonoid probably, but with the size of the non-pdf's, I might upload it to file sharing sites as well.

Thank you for your input!

>> No.1308977

>>1308970

Well, I admire you for doing this. I am very much looking forward to the 'Alpha' collection being completed in a few weeks or so. Make sure you post on here every so often too with links and updates and stuff. Good luck.

>> No.1308985

OP, I made a thread earlier for collecting university reading lists. There are a few philosophy posts that might be relevant to you.
>>1307982

>> No.1309239

>>1308985
Thanks!
Anyone good with Word? This moron randomly hit enter to format this translation for HTML. I tried justify, that doesn't work.

So far I'm having to go down the left doing this. Backspace, space, go down, repeat. I've been doing this for an hour and I'm on book 2 of Aristotle's Metaphysics (A must have).

Is there an easier way to do this? If I just leave it it's a MESS on the kindle and an eyesore.

If not, I'll go back to the endless thing I was doing before.

People and their formating. Jesus.

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Here is a screenshot of what is happening. I usually do ok, but this looks like a needless waste of time if I can fix it all at once. IF I can.

>> No.1309261

>>1309251

Soooo, it looks like you've got one space too many, right? Maybe try Ctrl+F or whatever brings up the 'find' option. Then you should be able to enter text to replace words in the text. So put a space in the replace bar and nothing in the 'replace with' bar.

I'm probably talking out of my ass, but hey it's a free bump and you could always just undo if it fucks you up.

>> No.1309272

>>1309261
Thanks, but it didn't work, sadly.
See where "be" is in the image on the left side? I have to hit backspace, to bring it up to "should" and then hit space, and it looks like the above text (correct) and not like the text on the bottom (not correct)

RAGE!

>> No.1309368

>>1309272
Well, actually, it might work, but with a different input, I told it to replace the paragraph break sign with a space, it's been 'working' for close to 15 minutes now....

One can always hope.

>> No.1309380

>>1309368

Ah, cool. Well, whatever works!

>> No.1309511

Blast. It worked, just to well. It became a huge block of text.

Looks like this one will be a steady work in progress for a very long time.

>> No.1309523

WHO USES RANDOM PARAGRAPH BREAKS ON A WORK OF ARISTOTLE?!?!?!

Sorry, rage.

>> No.1311221

bump of life

>> No.1311273

Here are two really important texts you are going to need for this to make any sense:

Frege: On Sense and Reference
Brentano: Psychology from an Empirical Standpoint

>> No.1311582

>>1311273
Added to the master list, thanks!

>> No.1312298

Bump, you should post it soon OP.

>> No.1312310

Just thought I'd mention Isabelle is apparently working on redoing all of the philosophy recommendation charts. I'm surprised he hasn't checked in this thread yet.

>> No.1312311

Seems a good place as any to ask.
Any good introductory works to Pragmatist philosophy?

>> No.1312497

OP is a gentleman and a scholar.

See, I got the 1001 books torrent, and it's great and all... but really they should have called it 1001 _novels_.

I'm really keen to start plowing through the great works of philosophy.

Go OP GO!

>> No.1312524

>>1312298
I'm fine with the final, super complete product released for christmas as long as we won't have to download shit after. I think that's the most important, you need one and only one version, be it torrent or not.

>> No.1312558

>>1312524

It just seems likely that this thread will disappear and I'll never see it again.

>> No.1312583

>>1312558

The thread is going to die soon probably. It won't last until he's finished. That's why I'm hoping he's going to upload to Demonoid because I have his account bookmarked for when he adds the torrent, that way it doesn't matter if I miss the thread where he posts the link.

>> No.1312596

>>1312583
who cares ? We'll make another one

>> No.1312598

>torrent
c'mon! I know you're trying to give off the impression that your not tech-savvy (by mixing up the posts you are replying to when you post) but using torrents is too fucking far.

let's host it on mediafire or something & stop all this silliness.

>> No.1312602

>>1312598

why don't you use torrents?

>> No.1312612

>>1312602
>slower than http unless loads of people are using them (i.e. release day of some software)
>have to wait until people sharing the file are online (if anyone is like me they just download then remove the file from their shared folder)
>you're more likely to be prosecuted for downloading torrents than from a file-hosting site gut i guess thats not much off an issue with book publishers
So basically the speed & inconvenience.

>> No.1312622

>>1312612

>leeching fag

Please continue not to use torrents.

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>>1312622
jelly of my -2.1 ratio?