/lit/ - Literature

Bachelor of Sacred Scripture (S.S.B.)
Bachelor

>>13577385
IT is good in the modern world, dont listen to retards that tell you it isn't. If we're talking more old school shit then things like accounting, trade, commodities will always come in handy.

>>13577385
Carpentry

>>13577445
>T is good in the modern world, dont listen to retards that tell you it isn't.
This, really looking forward to automating everything and making everyone else lose their jobs

>>13577477
I didn't even study i just hate when people argue against it like it's not the most useful degree for the average male nowadays.

i wanted to go to philosophy but i realized that it won't give you bread and it's basically the same as reading philosophy books except someone explains it to you and you can discuss it with like minded people so i went to engineering and after finishing it i got a flexible job. basically i have certain projects that need to be finished in a certain period of time and i might need to supervise every while and then.

Premed

Phd in broscience

>>13577385
Computer Science and it's not close

>>13577385
I think you have two choices, anon.

1. Choose a degree or pathway that clearly leads to a career. Some examples of areas that will very likely continue to grow and offer career opportunities:
>TECH: Computer Science, Software Engineering, Information Technology
>HEALTH: Medicine, Dentistry, Nursing, Pharmacy, etc. Psychology and social work maybe.
These are my two examples because current trends are such that technology and health are very good places to be. Technology will continue to drive productivity gains across many businesses and sectors for a long time. Even as returns diminish on the actual progress delivered by the "digital revolution", it will continue to offer plenty of jobs. Health would give you a stable career for a lifetime, but would be particularly useful over the years that the Baby Boomer generation ages and passes away. It will be in so much demand that you would have to be retarded not to get employed and get a lot of experience and opportunities to advance or specialise.
It would also be reasonable to study subjects like economics, finance, engineering, accounting, maths, statistics, and similar. Especially if you enjoy or are interested in these subjects.
2. Choose a degree program that allows you to study a practical subject and a passion simultaneously. (e.g. a double degree). Some colleges do not offer this, but it is a good way to go if you want to feel like you didn't give up on your actual interests to pursue a hollow career.

Going to grad school (unless it leads to a career or enhances your salary significantly) is too much of a risk if your country doesn't offer free higher education, or if you don't have family wealth to fall back on. Don't take on the debt or waste your time unless it is absolutely, 100% what you want to do with your life. Even then, it is not a good idea, because many universities are no longer really run by academics (they have bloated bureaucracies and act a lot like multinational corporations). You cannot necessarily rely on academic jobs or opportunities to support a living. Also, colleges are totally compromised ideological cesspools and you will have zero academic freedom.

You will learn quickly that you fucked up if you decide to do something solely for security. Don't create more obstacles for yourself than you need to but also remember that money is necessary. Learn to save and you can thrive in the most shit job ever.

Mathematics or Accounting

>>13577385

literally just work in finance or go to medical school. if you're charismatic (looks don't hurt either) you'll probably find yourself in a sales position anywhere and do well. remember (most of lit, 4chan doesnt understand this, for some reason) the school you go to matters more than your major. literally do not settle for anything out of the 'top ten' (roughly speaking) and try to go top five. if you went to some dogshit high school or fucked up early then transfer in. and to restate the original point, you can reboot your prospects through an mba or med school if you don't like where you're at.

>>13577385
Library science
>300K starting salary
>unlimited supply of pussy

>>13577682
>the school you go to matters more than your major.
Everybody knows this

Just become a mailman.they move tons of mail in a day,relatively good job security, and benefits are decent.all you need is 5 years driving experience.starting pay is like 17 dollars an hour,maybe higher.

>>13577717
It's impossible to live independently on even twice that wage where I live.

I never see chemistry in such threads.

Communication

>>13577753
read Wittgenstein

>>13577740
Exactly.

>>13577565
If you do engineering in a top college, you're basically guaranteed a well paying job. The marke t is way too undersaturated

Physics or mathematics

Do this mainly for the sake of studying econophysics

>>13577682
What if its a top 10 school for a specific major but too 50 otherwise?

And is it that important for undergrad?

>>13577385
Finance

Engineering. Guaranteed money and interesting job opportunities

t. BSc in aerospace engineering

>>13577824
I may be biased. My country doesn't have good outcomes for engineering students, but we don't really make things or do things here.

Math is the most /lit/
>there are probably people on this board who can't do basic calculus

>>13577385
Unironically not going to college and using the money to travel the world for a finite period of time before returning and committing to a trade (you’d probably be able to cover the cost of the trade school with your left over funds assuming you’re appropriating the average $20,000 or so it’d cost to attend a 4-year institution anyway). College is most certaintly a scam and a limited network model. If your greatest concern is the piece of paper literally just do above but take online classes.

>>13578007
Literature is the most /lit/

>>13578007
>there are people here who didn't discover calculus independently after learning multiplication

>>13577841
What does an engineer even do in an average day? I'm American and we didn't have any engineering classes in highschool. Do you just draw in AutoCAD all day ? I literally don't know the process of engineering something. I'm a senior in University majoring in IT right now and think it's boring. I might go back for another degree later in life.

>>13577385
I've really enjoyed doing a Bachelor's and Master's in Classics. Pretty comfy

>>13577385
Kinda depends on your skills and what you like... however, don't focus on whether studying the subject will be fun, try to project yourself into the future and imagine what doing that job will be like for you and whether you'll be happy with it. I loved studying /lit/ in college, but I'd be miserable as a teacher, so I'm SOL. lol

>>13577624
>You will learn quickly that you fucked up if you decide to do something solely for security.
TOO TRUE thats what I did and I'm not interested in my job prospects at all.
> Don't create more obstacles for yourself than you need to but also remember that money is necessary
this is what makes the decision so hard

No college degree is beneficial for your life overall. It won't make you a virtuous human being; it'll turn you into a bugman.

>>13577557
/thread

>>13577385
One from a European University that won't send you into debt.

Computer Science is overrated. Don't do it.

Do something like Math, Physics, or Philosophy so you won't be scared of any book.

You'll probably end up coding anyways, but math -> computer science is easier than computer science -> math.

>>13580590
>Dont study computer science its overrated bro (i would know because i have studied it) XDDD U should actually study philosophy instead bro its so much better

>>13580926
I'm not that guy man but loads of successful people have had philosophy degrees. He also suggested Math.

Mathematics and Philosophy are two of the most mentally intensive things in existence. What the fuck do you know, faggot. :3

>>13580945
not much honestly, but why does computer science get shit on so much on this site?

>>13581072
Because computer science is oversaturated and overrated. More and more companies are employing overseas programmers. STEM is an enormous meme. If college is within your means, just study what makes you happy. Same story with accounting and HR. Indians.

>>13577638
>Mathematics
If you're planning on getting a degree in pure mathematics, unless you're going to grad school, make sure you pair it up with another degree. Probably one of the most rewarding with mathematics is with a computer science degree.

>>13581080
what if i just like computers

>>13581097
Then I recommend medieval studies.

>>13577477
You’re getting your job automated first, fag

>>13577695
KEK

> bachelors worthless need a masters
> 20-50k year
> cutthroat competition
> work with entitled post-wall liberal bitches who imagine themselves to be strong female characters from the teen fiction they read, but can't take responsibility for a phone call.
> all other men are job leaches

>>13577824
your basically doomed to be middle class and have almost no upside with a hard salary cap of about 140k, but more likely 75k.

>>13581072
a lot of computer science degrees are watered down career preps. They don't learn math, they don't learn physics, and they don't learn practical job skills very well either. Its just some mediocre coding exercises and poorly written books.

At top schools that focus on theory and academics, CS can be a great education like math.

>>13581097
What do you mean? Installing shit and tweaking your backgrounds? Or proving the runtime of algorithms?

The former is IT/IS brainless tier.

>>13581165
> he believes the PR put out by tech companies about automation.

>>13577385
I habe a bachelors in kinesiology and and in Mandarin Chinese

>>13581205
>What do you mean? Installing shit and tweaking your backgrounds? Or proving the runtime of algorithms?
I solved P vs. NP

>tfw too much of a brainlet for programming/engineering

>>13581191
Slowly transition to management

>>13577477
If you live for your job you have no reason to complain about getting phased out eventually. You signed yourself up for being viewed as a machine by employers already.

I'm getting a B.S. in Health Administration. Am I fucked guys?

>>13581693
brainlets make the best code monkeys

Guys i'm so lost, i don't know what to study. I just want to make decent money.

>>13582548

real estate license

>>13581827
Yes. Enjoy working with boomers and nurses who believe in healing crystals and overweight black women with nails that go everywhere and they all have short hair.

engineering with mandarin

I unfortunately fell for the Creative Writing meme.

I honestly just went to a school 6 hours away from my hometown to party and stuff. I wanted to get away from everyone I already knew. The school was in the same state but no one from my high school even applies there. I only chose Creative Writing cause I was that kid in high school who passed without studying (I enjoyed English though and really liked all my teachers). I had like C average in my gen eds.

But I did go to a school that had a decent Writing program. The professors weren’t mainstream authors but they did get stuff published in the New Yorker and other big magazines and publishers.

But then I realized I hated dorming (My roommate wasn’t crazy or anything, I just realized I couldn’t live in the same room with the same person for a long period of time unless they were my girlfriend). So I transferred back home.

I ended transferring to a state school that wasn’t mostly commuters and community college transfers. Their Writing program was not good. Professors were too easy and my GPA ballooned up to the point of people from my old school saw it they’d think I was cheating my way through college.

So I finished up my Writing degree (the school I transferred to took most of my credits so I only had one semester left of courses to do the major there) and declared a second major in Media Production.

I know, I know, Film School is a meme. But the Production program is great, not only do they only do film stuff but I’m getting trained to work in all sorts of production. I got an internship for a sports team (nothing major) and I’m hoping I get a job after school cause they do actually hire interns (cause that’s who I work with former interns who were hired).

(1/2)

>>13577385
The ones that don’t end in of arts

>>13583520
(2/2)

My professor ended up showing me a MA program in Film Studies (Think English but instead of books you study Film) at a major university that will waive your tutition if you teach undergrad courses. So now I’m planning on doing that. They’ll even let me do some electives in their production courses.


My advice is, don’t study Creative Writing. Most major authors didn’t come from that program. At most you should just minor in it. The best way honestly is to find authors you like, find if they have any essays about how they write and study those, mix your favorite authors style, and keep writing stories and adding your own personal touches in order to find your original voice. You don’t have to write only on what you know, you can research shit as much as you want to.

I would only ever major in Creative Writing if you are from a wealthy family that’s doesn’t worry about money and get most of your college paid for, minor or double major in something else more practical, go to a top school, and don’t have to worry about finding a career after you graduate (cause of your wealthy family).

Also, you could also just go to college for something practical and then do a MFA program in Creative Writing. They’ll take anyone pretty much as long as they like your writing sample.

>>13583520
>>13583566
I’ll probably still do writing and try to get stuff published. But that will probably be a side-job/hobby.

I’ll probably end up in Production, which is fine. I do enjoy it.

>>13581080
>Because computer science is oversaturated and overrated.
i know someone in london with a computer science degree and he literally leaves jobs before even looking for antoher one because they're so easy to find

>>13577385
the one that's in a field you want to work in

>>13577385
Materially, the one that makes the most money.
It's a metagame.

Ideally, pick the one where you can make enough to retire early and actually begin the real game of meaningful pursuit.

philosophy major

It is a flexible degree but the reality is you are mainly only geared towards either the education path or law path. Also, like anything, some people are just better geared towards philosophy than others, so spending all the money on it is not exactly practical.

>>13585054
sorry should have specified

I got a philosophy degree and I don't recommend it. It can entertain you and guide you on the right path in life but it isn't the path. So a degree in it is useless unless you are in the two career paths I listed.

I would assume the best degree to get would be mechinical engineering. But to each their own. When it comes down to it, no matter what you do, its all about how creative you can get. Winner break boundries and do what hasn't been tried before.

>>13581094
How early do you have to start working towards a double major? I'm going into sophomore year comp sci and I'm thinking of pairing it up with math, think it'd be too late to do so while being able to avoid paying for extra courses?

>>13585054
>>13585076
I got a PhD in physics and make a shit-ton of cash, but I regularly play with the idea of going half-time and do something more artistic on the side.
To an extent I regret not doing literature or philosophy, but then again the philosophy majors I know (girlfriends of me in the past) all ended up becoming teachers and on top of it they are die-hard convinced of this and that ideology to the extent that they become unlikable and un-relatable.
Now it would be easy to say doing something technical is good and you can do the reading that you like on the side, but in reality you don't actually do it and I can't get around getting something that's equivalent to the 3++ year study of philosophy and literature on the side, even if I try. Part of it surely is that nobody forces you to do shit and so I jump around between books and topics.

In any case, the wage oriented replies here in this thread are stupid. I'd also say that computer science is beneficial as a major to your life overall, but not because you get a job there but instead because everything is digital now and will be more so in the future and it's good to be in a position where you don't just have to accept it as magic. But still, if the question is "what's most beneficial", then hopefully it's something philosophically minded, something that doesn't make you live the life of the next pleb.

>>13581198
I don't know what schools you are looking at. Most C.S degrees require a decent amount of math and logic and also require Classical Mechanics and E & M.

Computer shit for comfortablity, and some business shit for money

>>13577385
Any art degree, ignore people complaint about unemployment. It is incredibly easy to find employment with a degree in philosophy for example, easier than a shitty vocational degree in commerce

>>13585771
What can you do with a undergrad in philosophy?

>>13585214
Well, because your going into your second year, it's still very doable. I don't know what school you go to, but as for my school, the second year is where we should start working on our major, but people mostly start on it first year to get a head start.

The only "downside" to this is the fact that since you did not start working on a comp sci major first year, there are less slots for you to take elective courses.

>>13577385
I got two, one in finance and the other in computer science. I'm aiming for a masters in CS for computer statistics. All engineering disciplines are useful though.

>>13586608
Be homeless? I hear target is hiring

>>13586608
Starve

>>13577385
Liberal Arts.
All those degrees that get you money will become automated in less than 10 years as the endless thirst for power and money continue to grow exponentially.
Unless you're willing to use your BBA or IT degree in order to continue working for a job that pays 50 cents per hour.

That's what the world gets for not teaching values at an early age and encouraging sociopaths to have positions of power that not necessarily is politics.

>>13587272
>That's what the world gets

>>13581790
doable, but usually doesn't coincide with engineering skills or interests. Middle managers are capped similarly. You have to be executive quality.

>>13577385
Glaciology, geology, mycology, ornithology or marine biology

>>13585723
high school level calculus and a watered down discrete math course is hardly a lot of math.

Your stretching those intro physics classes pretty far too.

Its certainly not the worst. But you would be better off (read intellectually enriched), studying physics, math, chemistry, EE, etc unless its a top CS program.

>>13587645
Learn grammar before giving others academic opinion, peon.

>>13587650
CS degrees aren't mathematics degrees.

bachelors degree of hard knock life experiences

>>13587650
> grammar mistakes in a quickly written response make the content invalid

KYS

>>13587671

No.. but its now obvious you don't know much about CS. Doing anything worthwhile in computer science requires significant mathematical maturity. Almost all the founding texts are written in mathematical form.

Go pick any Turing award winner recent or old and try to read their papers.

Real estate.

>>13577385
The humanities.

>>13587698
Software engineering, which is what everyone means when they say CS, isn't CS or mathematics. No, you aren't a computer scientist, mathematician, or engineer.

>>13581080

And why do you think it's over saturated?
Because anyone with a brain can see that pretty much any kind of computer centered discipline is going to be the most widely useful and relevant for probably the next several centuries at least
There's always going to be a need for math, physics, engineering, etc... but going forward it's never going to be in the same volume which is just as it already has been with many other disciplines
Really CS and similar stuff has only just begun to grow and will continue to for a long time

>>13577740
You'd be fine with a bachelor's in chemical engineering, but if you graduate with a straight-up chemistry degree then you're doomed to teach high school for eternity.
The only exception to this is chemistry majors who achieve masters or doctorates, they have options in university teaching and R&D.

>>13578729
seconded

>>13580945
Too bad a philosophy degree is useless uwu

>>13581109
underrated, lost

>>13577391
Have you studied scriptures of many religions or just one? Regardless, it sounds pretty based. Where did you get your degree?

>>13587772
Why does CS always make everyone so fucking angry. Like a few years ago engineering had the same effect on people, but now it's CS

>>13587921
You aren't CS. You are a software developer. They aren't even related.

>>13587929
Okay then Mr. Big Brain, how would you define CS?

>>13587929
lol, I'm not even the same person. For some reason Computer Scientists are in your head rent free 24/7

>>13587934
the study of processes that interact with data

>>13577385
Engineering is the only STEM degree where you are guaranteed to print cash and not want to kill yourself, with enough free time left over to enjoy your life and even travel.

If you are social person, and not suicidal at all, do law so you can either print money as an associate or become a politician.

People always need theologians and priests. I don't know how well paying it is, but you get to read a lot.

>>13581080
>>13581238
Computer science degrees won't help you get an IT job, you need to do a fuck tonn of self study with programming languages and databases.

>>13577500
Is there a good argument against this?

>>13587956
>not want to kill yourself
Doubt

>>13587956
>Engineering is the only STEM degree where you are guaranteed to print cash and not want to kill yourself
This is extreme delusion.

>>13587798
Are you not aware of the entire pharma industry?
They are constantly looking for basic educated chemist who can fill the holes they need for their produce.

>>13577740
because chem is divided into many disciplines: biochemistry, molecular biology, organic chemistry, physical chemistry, and so on. it's rare to just get a generic chemistry degree

>>13578025
tourism/travel is a disgrace. But one thing I think would be cool is to live somewhere, learn a trade and the language/culture.

0 - 5 take drugs and continue my all-nighter through the day studying for my probability class like a monster

6 - 8 just stay up long enough to do the work i have due and sleep early, taking it easy on myself

9 disregard life and fap 100 times completely draining my body of any semblance of energy

IT is easy and if you work somewhere that isnt to big you can have decent downtime to just read some books

>>13577500
Engineers need to survive their last 10 years before retirement. Know some boomer engineers who needed to change their field of work since they didn't prepare for their you are fired/golden handshaked contingency

>>13578729
According to /sci/ engineers suck a lot of dicks. So you can say they manage cum flows

>>13578729
>>13589131
This is correct. Being able to consume large amounts of cum is essential to good engineering. This is why feminist women are buttblasted they can't get into STEM jobs, they can't get themselves to cum guzzle like a proper human stemlord. Screaming that cum guzzling is sexist and patriarchy (it's just kinda gay) doesn't help their case either.

>>13589199
Man, I remember my first "private counseling" with my CAD and technical drawing professor. Good times
One day I'm gonna be in that position and help a new engineer flower while on his knees.

>>13581072
What others said plus wanna make vidyagames meme

>>13587772
agreed and software engineering is best learned by doing it. write 200 programs then you will be a good software engineer.

the degree is just not that good. that's my argument.

>>13577557
you have to actually like programming, though. I know a ton of CS grads who just hate programming and they're stuck in shitty desk jobs with no upward mobility. Sure they're well compensated, but soon they'll be replaced by a swellingly tech literate younger generation and they'll find the skills they never bothered to develop are becoming common-place. If you're not genuinely passionate about CS, you're entering a bubble just before it bursts. Kids have been learning programming in highscool for half a decade now.

>>13577385
Ones that won't become your career, but give you a general education and improve your status as a cultured individual.

>>13589493
>write 200 programs then you will be a good software engineer
this is bad advice. Write 200 programs and you'll be good at writing bad programs. Writing software is easy — writing good software is hard and takes dedication, learning and experience that you cannot give yourself. You need to join open source projects, study software examples and design patterns and read textbooks and learn from example. Just making software is NOT good enough, and for many people that means getting a degree is necessary because they don't have the kind of personality that lends to constructive self direction. Know yourself and ask if you've ever actually taught yourself anything to a professional level before. If the answer is no, chances are good that a degree will be worth your while.

>>13589059
epic

>>13589520
True it's a hard pill to swallow

>>13588230
Bachelor's degree, outside the hard sciences/med school are all pretty much the same. There's no real difference in intellectual rigor between a philosophy degree and a business degree, and every job trains you specifically. It doesn't matter

If you're not passionated about, or at least interested in, a subject, then don't study it. It's just pointless to take up Engineering, CS or whatever if you don't enjoy it in the least. You'll probably just drop out after torturing yourself through the first few semesters

>>13590303
True that. Went to CS for the cash money without giving the slightest fuck about it and I was out after one semester. Now I'm floating around with no direction whatsoever.

does not matter if you are born into wealth, have fun acquiring wealth, you will just try to kys passively while you do all the loopjumping t acquire some shekels which then the state wants and the currency can go to shit every moment.

>>13577695
I wish I majored in this. I took a random class senior year and it was all hot book thots

>wasn't planning on going to college because too depressed
>can't work up the courage to tell my mom
>she forces me to apply for a scholarship
>get accepted for said scholarship and get a tuition waiver for 4 years to my state school
>can't turn this one down despite not being interested in school and just wanting to be a neet
>spend 1 year just doing gen eds then pick polisci because it was easy and semi interesting to me
>finish that degree and then take on geography because also easy and semi interesting
>smoke a ton of pot and basically do nothing except for one internship and 2 clubs
>graduate and expect to be unemployed forever
>get hired at engineering firm half a year ago where I now travel the country doing survey bullshit work and getting paid ~$55k/year
I keep waiting for things to go badly, but they somehow keep working out. I think with any degree you're pretty well off

>>13590299
imagine actually believing a philosophy degree is equal to a finance degree

>>13578729
I’m american and had engineering class in high school, just learned mechanical advantage and played with a bridge building program a lot trying to make a bridge that was cost efficient which was fucking impossible. There was an advanced class too you could take if you took the first not sure what they taught.

>>13591557
Video related
https://youtu.be/LLG4RvhWAhQ

Electrical Engineering
Computer Engineering
Nuclear Engineering

Biochemistry has been mostly a mistake.

I went in for research, knowing it was a bad path, but I assumed it would be worth it because I thought I was passionate enough about it. Turns out research is actual Hell and basically the only classes I enjoyed were organic chemistry and botany. Now I don't give a shit about going to grad school or doing research and am probably just gonna end up in some kind of ecological position where I don't have to be indoors inhaling fumes and mingling with spergs all day.

Beats compsci, engineering, or whatever other unethical autistic toymaking major most people go to for security anyhow.

>>13587849
>wasting time on non-Christian """literature"""

>>13591663
>Electrical Engineering
Based and white

>>13591804
Literally every electrical engineer I've met was asian

>>13591810
honorary

>>13591751
Is there anything more pathetic than hating on engineers/stem? You’re basically saying “I peaked in high school”

>>13591833
I am STEM, bucko. I'm just in a major that isn't powered entirely on satisfying the financial incentives of infantile hedonism and destructive consumerism. When I go to bed at night I rest easy knowing that my greatest contribution to humanity won't be a minor contribution to a phone screen or program or whatever other useless distraction that'll be used for 2 years to disseminate the Spectacle then dumped into a landfill and poisoning the earth after its done poisoning humanity.

>>13577538
Duncan?

Nursing is the most exciting, rewarding, and well paid for overall time invested.
I'm planning to work up the Paramedic ladder while completing a BA in Classical Languages, then transfer into the military. Having a trade is extremely underrated, and a good security blanket. Really wish I'd gotten my EMT license right out of highschool, would have saved years of my life.

>>13591884
>Nursing is the most exciting, rewarding, and well paid for overall time invested.
And you get to be the reason people are deathly afraid of hospitals

>>13591860
I understand you’re stem, and compsci hate is worthy, but you’re still definitely the stem hater type and my point stands. You might not be the sad fucker with an arts degree but you sympathize with them, probably because they’re majorly female.

>>13577385
You must understand that if you're asking this question then you don't come from a stable support network who has been carefully conditioning you for the kind of work that will allow you to take over the methods of wealth accumulation that generated that support network. College is now about taking on debt to acquire the skills necessary to enter the workplace. It is a system of bondage whose profits go to marketing (gotta get that out of state tuition), administration (no brainer), and school buildings. It is not a means to a higher degree of satisfaction or self-actualization: it is the bare minimum for becoming a mindless consumer whose self-awareness dooms them to a life of fearful precariousness. A life of 18 dollar an hour at-will employment without benefits while you have to room with 4 or 5 other people to cover the expense for being in proximity to a job even as "lucrative" as that. You're competing against kids whose parents not only provide them resources, but also regularly talked with them over the course of their childhood, got them involving with extra-curriculars so they were able to get into a prestigious school, arranged for them to form friendships with equally cultivated children, and generally gave a shit about them (molded them into a product fit for the meager upper management positions left in the world.) There is no upward mobility without insane luck and willingness to mold yourself to the capitalist ideal. Odds are you don't have the money or habits for it.

That is, unless you want to be a mindless cockroach working 50-60 hour weeks as a engineer or programmer, setting aside enough money to fuel your weed and adderall dependency and buy the latest fromsoftware games. Praying that you can somehow set aside enough money over the course your life to finally at 55-75 be able to spend your final years reading philosophy's greatest hits: you know, the Greeks, maybe some analytic stuff or calculus if you've got the brains for it. Then you die, never really pushing anything, never really risking anything. You took the safest route and it gave you the life you expected, provided the government you cling to manages to exterminate the billions who will be displaced by ecological collapse.

The game is up. There aren't any good lives left. Burn the shit down.

>>13577445
>getting a degree in IT
just get certs

>>13577385
Finance.

>tfw based Chemical Engineer here and I also have talent for humanities so I write and read a lot in my spare time so I'm not a retarded STEMfag fedora tipper who fucking loves science

>>13591996
That’s the wrong face when for having a talent in the humanities

>>13591899
You're projecting a lot onto me. The only thing I sympathize with are people who care about the impact their career will be making on the world. Art students have no career to even speak of.

>>13592024
Technology isn’t inherently evil, engineers have more positive impact on the world than anyone

>>13592033
>engineers have more positive impact on the world than anyone
Engineers are literally the apostles of the Spectacle, directly responsible for producing the mechanisms in which moral decay, the death of sincerity, logical positivism, and every cancer of Capital can reproduce and disseminate.

Imagine living in 2019 pissworld and still believing in the emancipatory potential of free market technology. Imagine finding yourself a cog in the meat grinder of humanity and believing it to be good.

>>13592092
All that shit people tout about capitalism raising the worlds living standards? That’s engineering. Is this just a normie trying to work around taking the J pill by saying “ITS DUH ENGINEERS”? I see what you’re trying to say but they’re not apostles by any means, maybe low ranking pastors.

>>13583618
>Ill probably end up in production
This is actually my dream job I wish I could work on set one day.

>>13592092
Engineers aren’t apostles of the spectacle anymore than blacksmiths are warriors.

>>13578729
drawing stuff up on a computer up to building regulations

t. civil engineer

>>13587640
these are for women and social outcasts

>>13590299
I always thought that my philosophy classes were really watered down, until i realized how many people were struggling with the concepts.

Philosophy has made me think more deeply about life, but thats all i do. And make pizza :)..... :/

>>13591751
Im thinking about going back to school to study something chemistry related, i really want to get into psychedelic research. Can you share some of your experience and advice?

>>13591925
TIME TO ACCELERATE

>>13592125
Raising the living standard at what expense? Do you really think the system we live in is at all sustainable? Walk into a walmart and look at all the garbage and junk being manufactured and thrown away everyday? Lol I took an entrepeneurship class and we had a guest speaker come in and all he talked about was how capitalism is good and the best system.

>back in the day no one could afford automobiles when they were first made
>now the standard of living dictates even the poor can affors cars
>when phones were first new, only the wealthy had them
>NOW LOOK! everyone seems to have an iphone!
>i predict in another 50 years most of the middle class will have their own private jet!

He legit made that claim. He was a writer for forbes. If you dont see how insane all of that sounds, im afraid youre a fucking cuck.

If I were you, I'd try to get Out really fast of University

>>13577516
Why do premed over some other degree like bio or psych? As long as I'm not required to take it to get into a medical school, I see no reason not to do a separate degree for undergrad as a backup incase medical falls through.

>>13577445
accounting will get automated

The only college degrees that needs to exist are the ones that are hands-on, and not make-work: medicine, chemistry, biology, nuclear physics, stuff like that.

Doctors need a lot of practice with live (and dead) patients, (bio)chemists or nuclear physics need the same with expensive labs and so on, all of it is interspersed with theory as you go. Furthermore, being hands-on, screwing up there can have dire consequences, do colleges don't dare to water it down too much.

Other, purely "abstract" disciplines - CS? IT? Math? Nobody cares about degree in there anymore, as those are merit driven exact science. Anyone interested can learn it on their own, and plenty of people who can't afford formal education do. And if you're good or a hack, everyone can figure it out quickly whereas degree is increasingly poor indicator of talent for spatial reasoning as universities are pressed to water down those constantly (more % of population in those fields -> iq drop in there).

Liberal arts, politics, accountants, finance, marketing, lawyers ... is essentially public service make-work, and degree is largely just certificate of compliance that you know some kind of byzantine rule framework that is a component of the system. They're needed only because the system "gives" them work, but don't produce any measurable value of their own. In a sense those people "are" the system. The degree stamp approval is just part of the whatever make-work the system invented for itself.

>>13589115
what?

Architecture is pretty good, right?

>>13593324
Accounting isn't just data entry you retard. It's all data analysis above entry level positions

>>13589520
That's not what the market says, no. Buggy programs are tolerated by the consumer.

>>13577385
>3 day old thread is still up
lit is officially a glacial board.

>>13592832
Fuck off JJ you worthless prick.

>>13592865
Exactly, he was a writer for Forbes and not some economist. He's just that: a sensationalist but a skilled one at that. I think what a lot of American colleges try to do is impress their world view onto students and call it science. There is unfortunately a limit to the amount of resources, chiefly energy, that we have. According to the laws of thermodynamics you can never gain energy - only lose it. The capitalist model presupposes infinite growth and it's a losing strategy against the law of thermodynamics.

If we are to think about what the goal of capitalism is of humankind it is trying to create some sort heaven on Earth or realize a grand truth.

>>13577836
this and only this

>>13583618
Your going to end up NEET or delivering pizza. That said your post is one of the more eloquently written ones.

>>13587946
>YOU AREN'T FUCKING CS!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEE

>>13577725
Its impossible to live on a 71k salary where you live?
Where do you live?

>>13577385
>>13581232
>>13587614
ah-bloo-bloo

>>13591929
Yes but my mommy is paying for my degree should I keep doing iT?

>>13591421
You are the Homer Simpson to my Frank Grimes

>>13591925
so how do i get out of my moms house

>>13591884
Except everyone ribs you for being a male nurse
>weren't smart enough to become a doctor, huh?

>>13592024
Yeah, who remembers faggy philosophers like Plato and lame ass composers like Beethoven. The enduring legacies of those in the arts contribute so much more to humanity than any career possibly could

>>13581187
Are you a librarian because that is really well written, god damn its so hard to get a library job, and the women are literally this. I went to library school then dropped out when I realized how I would have been worse than a nurse.

Took me too long to realize how horrible it was and ended with 16K debt anyway...it was my dream though. Now I am trying Urban Planning. I heard it might be in demand as long as I work hard at learning GIS.

>>13587921
I actually have been oldfagging this site to remember when engineering would literally make NEETs fly off into a reee rage, I even larped as one just to get some easy you's once.

>>13581080
This is a meme, if you can code you can get paid simple as, 4chan is wrong about their being 1 billion Indians and Chinese waiting to snap up every job, work at a mid sized urban town like Dallas after graduation.

>>13592736
civil engineering looks cool, why I wanted to do urban planning as it was closest to that I could do with my English degree lol

>>13593326
You could argue CS is hands on to a computer but IT is definitely getting more abstract, computers really work out of the box these days ?

>>13591884
Yo fuck that shit look up Physician Assistant, you won't get made fun of as much, you have the patient care hours as a Paramedic in the military you will be a legit badass and probably get to study PA in military and then you will be honorably discharged and people will literally send hookers to your hotel who will do anal so that you will go work for the hospital that sends them to you. You will make 105K starting and godlike benefits.

Nursing will be 60K starting and dodgy bennies.

>>13594754
You make thirty dollars an hour starting and have a constant line up of hot crazy female nurses to sleep with

anyone here a psychology major? about to start my freshman year at uni and I'm currently undecided but psych is my main interest rn, planning on doing clinical psych and banking off of future generations being inevitably fucked up. keeping my options open though

>>13595410
lol

How's civil engineering??

>>13587956
>>13588426
What about civil engineering though? Is it the same ?

>>13589504
this is plain stupid, CS is not just programming.

>>13594877
>You could argue CS is hands on to a computer but IT is definitely getting more abstract, computers really work out of the box these days ?

IT/CS != HW. HW is EE, and EE can span from "banal hobby stuff" (no need for a degree) to collaboration between chip fab and the uni to train their own talent (degree is just a formality, but the uni environment is definitely "hands on").

for my life?
Mathematics

>>13594731
Punch her in the face