/lit/ - Literature

>>13647026
based retard

>>13647026
this but unironically

>>13647026

We can truly know OP is a faggot.

>>13647026
>>There is no self
I am myself; hence there is a self.

>>What is truth?
'P' is true iff P

>>Can we ever truly know anything?
I know that I have hands. Therefore, I know something; therefore, I can know something.

>>13648018
>I know that I have hands
You don’t know that

>>13648041
And do you know that I don't know that?

>>13648417
how do you know that he knows that you don't know that?

>>13648018
>I am myself
Prove it.

>>13648446
I don't know, that's why I asked

>>13648477
Prove that proofs yield truths

>>13648018

Where do your hands begin? Where do they end?

"I am" is where the dream of self begins. When it ends, it is seen that it never happened.

>>13648477
It's not necessary/possible to show you proof; my consciousness is evidence in and of itself

>>13648556
Your "consciousness" is not evident to me, and for all I know does not exist. I am the only true individual in the world, I am the perceptive and reactive unique. No one is more unique than I, more alive than I. This is my world, my life, and you are all expendable players of my tale.

>>13647026
based OP, you are doing God's work

>>13648573
Exactly, it's impossible to prove to other people; that doesnt mean it doesnt exist

>>13648573
prove it lmao

>>13648525
>Where do your hands begin?
at the wrist
>Where do they end?
at the tips of the fingers
>"I am" is where the dream of self begins. When it ends, it is seen that it never happened.
no proof or grounds of inference was offered for this, so it can be dismissed

>>13647026
Does possibility exist a priori?

>>13648018
>I am myself; hence there is a self

>I
Made up concept
>am
Made up concept
>myself
Made up concept
>hence
Made up concept
>there
Made up concept
>is
Made up concept
>a
made up concept
>self
Made up concept

Words are nothing, concepts are nothing, they are empty because everything is empty.

>>13648797
Based post-modernism anon

>>13648797
for you

>>13647110
>>13647110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsJDLSI_Mo

>>13648742
Very good.

When you were born, where did you come from? When you die, where will you go?

When you are dreaming, you are convinced it is real. Yet, when you wake up, you say "ah! of course, it was just a dream"

>>13647026
Pontius Pilate btfo

>>13648899
>where did you come from
Vagene
>where will you go
Cease to exist
>convinced it is real
I lucid dream

>>13648909
Who came from Vagene? Who will cease to exist?

>>13648797
there is no proof that everything is empty, its a garbage-tier position

>>13648730
Noooooooo, aaaghhh you have bested me!

>>13649122
Get depersonalization disorder and you will see it's true

It's your emotions that create the illusion of things having some kind of substance.

I have it and every day I'm reminded of the fact that everything is empty.

>>13648573
Based solipsistic poster

>>13648018
You come off as rather the cocksure young fool, but giving you the benefit of the doubt:

Please define what you mean by 'self' and enlighten us all on how you know you have one

Please tell us why you think logical games are somehow truth, or even true in any deeper sense.

How do you know you have hands? How do you know what hands are? Aren't you simply assuming your hands, like your 'self', as something without giving it any real thought?

>>13649087
me

>>13648899
>When you were born, where did you come from? When you die, where will you go
asking those questions hypothetically isn't enough to cast doubt on the existence of a self, Jainism and Hindu philosophy such as Vedanta provide coherent explanations for all of those questions which involve a 'self'

>When you are dreaming, you are convinced it is real. Yet, when you wake up, you say "ah! of course, it was just a dream"
That there is the same continuous conscious presence that experiences itself as the same in both dream and waking life is an argument for the existence of a self

>>13649253
>become mentally-ill and retarded philosophical/metaphysics positions will appear to be correct
>therefore everything is empty
hmmmmm

>>13649087
He will.

>>13649287
What did you use to type that?

>>13648573
Even if that is so, you are simply agreeing with him. You exist, therefore the self exists. There is no basis that a conscious human being has to say that he himself does not exist.

>>13649302
More like
>the world you see is just a creation of your brain
>things like depersonalization disorder prove this
>the feeling of "substance" to reality isn't inherent to reality outside of your own mind

So if you see a world of "substance" it only means your brain is making you see that, it doesn't mean it actually is that way.

>>13648018
>I know that I have hands
No you don't

>Not every statement is both true and false

>>13649332
none of that is an argument against the existence of a self, consciousness isnt a substance

>>13649287
>Please define what you mean by 'self'
"a person's essential being that distinguishes them from others, especially considered as the object of introspection or reflexive action:"

>and enlighten us all on how you know you have one
Who, me? That's the one you're talking to – and I'm talking about myself right now.

>Please tell us why you think logical games are somehow truth, or even true in any deeper sense.
What's the game? It's just an extensionally adequate definition of truth.

>How do you know you have hands?
I look at them, use them, feel them, and so on. I've had them my whole life.

>How do you know what hands are?
Because I speak the English language.

>Aren't you simply assuming your hands, like your 'self', as something without giving it any real thought?
No, someone asked me a question so I answered.

>>13648477
It doesn't need proof.

>>13647026
>"bro, personally, I don't believe in objectivity so I can't relate"

>>13648018
>'P' is true iff P
this is why analytics are a meme

>>13649956
What's your IQ?

>>13648524
BASED BASED BASED BASED

im definitely going to shoot myself

>>13649253
i have had it too
depersonalization
i want it again

>>13647026
>>There is no self
there is, once you are a complete person.

>>What is truth?
proximal: relation
distal: God

>>Can we ever truly know anything
by divine grace, you may come to know the heavenly father

You're all virgins