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Let's not discuss FOR ONCE if god exist or not.
I am atheist but I like to read intelligent anons who believes in God (look, I am writing it with capitalized initiation to show my respect towards you).
Let's discuss about the necessity of God in our universe. Physicist are figuring out how the whole universe works, there is not a single equation in which God is a variable. You can explain everything in nature we have discovered without God and every theory which is not experimentally confirmed yet has no "God variable" inside it. God isn't necessary to explain the universe, to explain how life started, how the brain works.
I'd like to read your thoughts


Also, more a based man of Stephen Hawking
>Although my body is very limited, my mind is free to explore the universe
>My disabilities have not been a significant handicap in my field, which is theoretical physics. Indeed, they have helped me in a way by shielding me from lecturing and administrative work that I would otherwise have been involved in.

I'm getting a Ph.D. in Computational chemistry and I love his works. I cried when he died lol

>> No.13734492

>>13734483
Lucifer is God

>> No.13734500

>>13734483
Errata corrige: *Name a more based man than Stephen Hawking

>> No.13734544

>>13734483
>I cried when he died lol

What more proof do you need

>> No.13734551

>>13734483
>please explain to me how George Washington could fit into my Harry Potter universe
>I’m open minded I swear

>> No.13734573
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Why does he like little cretins (beetles and flies) so much?

YUK

>> No.13734591

>>13734551
OP here. I'm not doubting God existence. I'm asserting that he is not necessary to our universe. I'm not denying its hypothetical transcendency. Learn the differences. Can't remember which the philosopher was but I read a great book about this last year of high school.
>>13734544
You made me smile anon

>> No.13734614

>>13734573
>Getting a Ph.D. in Computational chemistry
>interested in beetles and flies
Bruhhh baka

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>>13734483
>I cried when he died

>> No.13734620

>>13734483
>Physicist are figuring out how the whole universe works
lol they aren't.
The thing in itself cannot be known, we just make relationships between neurons. At most we can get a representation, an incomplete, partial model of how to react to what we sensed. Science helps sense with less noise, but nothing of that is an explanation.
Why does the universe exist instead of not exist?

>> No.13734626

>>13734483
>imposing autistic fixed and determinate mathematical models in an ever changing and becoming universe
>figuring out how the whole universe works

Hmmmmmm, gee I wonder why Newton and Einstein are now wrong...

>> No.13734628

>>13734573
baka

>> No.13734701

>>13734620
>partial model of how to react to what we sensed
Wrong.
>>13734626
>Einstein are now wrong
If Einstein was wrong your GPS would be 7 miles more inaccurate every day. Einstein's works do not explain very little thing on a subatomical level nor can't explain black holes, but it's not "wrong".
>>13734620
>Why does the universe exist instead of not exist?
Good question, step by step. When I was a kid I kept asking professors why the macroscopical universe is in three dimensions and not in two dimensions. Then I started growing up and I started asking myself why it's not four/five/n-dimensional but three (not counting time of course which has not the same property as the x,y,z axis but this is too complicated to be explained here). Then a University teacher finally answered me.
One day, I hope we'll be able to answer this question.

(If you're not familiar with what Computational chemists do, which I'm not already since I'm still getting the Ph.D., you may think I work and study in laboratory with beakers and stuffs like that, but actually I research with physicist and computer scientists)

>> No.13735714

>>13734483
>God
The whole point is silly. Whatever 'God' you refer to, by the point where you have depersonalized it into some causal abstraction, it no longer connects to any tradition, it simply serves to make nostalgic, insecure people try to feel better about having been brought up on lies

Forego preconceptions and embrace the wonder of ignorance and uncertainty

>> No.13736026

I believe that God made the universe a place that doesn't need him, but that he can change at will. I also believe that he may intentionally made some concepts that our minds cannot understand so that he has a seemingly magical way to do his stuff unnoticed.
That is simply what I think, so it doesn't make any of this true and neither indicates that this is in fact how God works.
I think I have read something about God's "divine intellect", implying that it is superior to ours.

>> No.13736758

>>13734483
Stephen Hawking was a Moron. Saying the universe is just an giant machine accident is literally a Belief just as much as the belief in God lol