/lit/ - Literature

News flash: You are actually the degenerate

>>13861924
*I meant kinks, children will end up reading liberal smut, which is why we should ban it before it poisons their minds.

>>13861940
There's nothing wrong with banning books that promote degenerate behavior.

>>13861947
Burn all the religious books.
Seems a good start, but I doubt it would work

>>13861924
Ahh yes, the shittiest parts of Plato's Republic, tell me more.

>>13861952
I'm not understanding, liberals are destroying our culture through art that glorifies degenerate behavior and somehow you put that against me? There's nothing wrong with banning books that destroy your culture into some liberal, kink obsessed society.

>>13861956
Banning books aren't bad if they're books that should be banned.

>>13861924
Who decides which books are to be banned and why do you trust them to take on such an enormous responsibility?

>>13861924
There's no point. Culture is downstream of politics.

>>13861924
We should just ban Americans from living. Nothing erodes all form of human expression quite like Americanism does.

>>13861985
Let's start with the obvious books that introduce fetishes and kinks, promiscuity and sex without any morals behind it. Let's start at the 20th + 21st century liberal sexual revolution and begin to ban those books. Let's ban books that glorify drugs, characters shouldn't be snorting cocaine- and if they are, they should die immediately. That is banning degeneracy, then we can get into nuance.

>>13861995
Nobody reads books anymore anyway, grandpa. They learn things from their friends or the internet.

>>13861993
I'm having a hard time where you're coming from with this, let's get some things straight.

1. Art has been co-opted by University types, these are ultra-liberal, free bleeding types that are extremely promiscuous.

2.This has been bleeding through to our literature for the last 50-60 years where things like gay marriage, promiscuity, drugs and fetishes are glorified in books like "Lolita" that should be banned.

3.So you're agreeing with me that American art is ruining the world and should be banned? Thanks.

>>13861924
Slippery slope. The concept of degeneracy stops functioning as a clinical designation, (aberrant behavior at odds with natural laws) but instead becomes whatever those in power assign it as.

Even books that glorify extreme social taboos, pedophilia , and the like, despite their repulsive character, serve to bolster the far side of possibilities. Firmly stamping out such a vile coordinate limits the whole space. Perhaps next all knowledge of the topic will be stamped out, counterintuitively allowing the banned subject to grow while society remains in ignorance.

The Nazis and Soviets for instance shut down several research institutes and banned or destroyed literature that conflicted with their ideology. The result was a closed, intellectually stunted literature which could only replicate the party line to remain safe.

>>13862005
Okay, so let's say they read books. You would agree with me that liberal, degenerate books should then be banned under this context?

>>13862014
Nope. And even if you did, all of those things (whatever it is you're talking about) are available online. Especially on this website.

>>13861993
based
>>13862009
yikes&cringe

>>13862012
>The concept of degeneracy stops functioning as a clinical designation, (aberrant behavior at odds with natural laws) but instead becomes whatever those in power assign it as.
I'm not interested in what comes out of the psychology department, if it quacks like a duck then it is a duck, and we should listen to our collective instinct instead of academia. Psychology/Sociology has been co-opted by Marxists, and it's not surprising you're trying to justify liberal degenerate literature using academic talk.

>The Nazis and Soviets for instance shut down several research institutes and banned or destroyed literature that conflicted with their ideology. The result was a closed, intellectually stunted literature which could only replicate the party line to remain safe.
I'm not sure what you mean with this, the Nazi's and the USSR did bad things, but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING they did was bad. The Nazi's were strong on animal rights for example. They got some things right, such as banning liberal degeneracy (on part of Nazi Germany).

>>13862018
kill yourself faggot

>>13862031
>such as banning liberal degeneracy (on part of Nazi Germany).

>>13862009
>glorified in books like "Lolita"

I wish I could chalk this up to trolling, but Americans are genuinely this retarded.

>>13861924
best book

>>13862035
As a society, Nazi Germany most definitely removed the Wiemar Republic's rampant degeneracy (The Wiemar Republic is what we're heading into because of liberal literature). I am sure on individual cases, sometimes though a rarity, degeneracy did happen, but for the most societal part (the most you can do) it WAS wiped out.

>>13862032
dilate

>>13861924

>>13862031
> collective instinct instead of academia.
What happens when not everybody has the same collective instincts? Then they aren't instincts. A government by instinct is a government oran by monkeys.
> but that doesn't mean EVERYTHING they did was bad.
This is an evasion. My larger point was quite clear. By dictating the range of topics anyone can write about, you're stunting and damaging whole possibilities for thought and discussion. Eventually this process repeats until everything besides the one faith suffocates and only the party line persists. Eventually everything sucks and we're stuck with the one shitty ideology.

The same can be said for Islamic theocracies or any kind censorship regime .

>>13862092
Stop replying to bait

>>13862092
>> collective instinct instead of academia.
What happens when not everybody has the same collective instincts? Then they aren't instincts. A government by instinct is a government oran by monkeys.
You've hit on a good point, and it IS because of the degenerate erosion of our literature (as all other forms of art) that our collective morality has shifted and has put us in this divided place. Once the degeneracy is banned from appearing in literature, then our instincts will collectively sink back in.

>This is an evasion. My larger point was quite clear. By dictating the range of topics anyone can write about, you're stunting and damaging whole possibilities for thought and discussion. Eventually this process repeats until everything besides the one faith suffocates and only the party line persists. Eventually everything sucks and we're stuck with the one shitty ideology.
Progression is progression, we will be under a one-culture, non-degenerate system and under that direction, we will progress. Look at Nazi Germany, and the culture they had- it was not hampered by removing the Wiemar Republic. Similarly, if we ban books that promote, and offer inclusivity to fetishes, kinks, drugs, gay... have you.. then we will similarly, simply leave that part behind us.

>The same can be said for Islamic theocracies or any kind censorship regime.
What you can say Islamic Theocracies are, is a block of thinking, instead of being separated. as we are now.

>>13862093
Not really, A-LOT of other people share my same view, go to /pol/ some time.
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You act as if dysfunctional sexual behavior is representative of consuming information, and not a myriad of factors that contributes to a perversion. Tell me, why would a Martial or Cattalus exist if they interacted with sexuality on physical and material ends? They still created poems likely considered "obscene" to faggots like you, but still lived entirely through the means of their own lives, and weren't collecting encyclopedias of sexuality as you assume people.
I really do commend you to try, since not even the Roman state was able to use damnatio memoriae on a single edgelord arsonist (Herostratus).

>>13861940
The real SIE would have never said Newsflash. End this charade already, anon.

>my views are losing in the marketplace of ideas and this is a bad thing

You act as if dysfunctional sexual behavior is representative of consuming information, and not a myriad of factors that contributes to perversion. Tell me, why would a Martial or Cattalus exist if they interacted with sexuality on physical and material ends? They still created poems likely considered "obscene" to faggots like you, but still lived entirely through the means of their own lives, and weren't collecting encyclopedias of sexuality as you assume people do (the argument against "kinks" doesn't even hold water anyway, as you assume people are entirely deterministic enough as to only fuck whenever procreation is necessary, when industrial society doesn't call for such patterns to be acted upon). Even if procreation is a byproduct, like within the ranks of, say, the Hitler Youth, drinking and promiscuity would still be a given. You also had to remember that Napoleonic times granted legality to prostitutes, which were ensured to fit public health standards for the public. Could it be, dear Anon, that we are just the highest order of mammals that are still susceptible to sexual drive, and that advancing forms of laws and institutions manifests our inner desires in irregular manners? Nah, it's just all "degeneracy", without nuance.
I really do commend you to try, since not even the Roman state was able to use damnatio memoriae on a single edgelord arsonist (Herostratus).

>>13861924
>fetishes & kings

>>13861993
Yes, especially (((Americans))). Their Flesh Golems are merely a symptom. Nothing fire can't clean.

Fuck the monarchy.

>>13862212
Based and kigupilled.

>>13862226
I just want to fuck a kigu at least once before I die
I just can't stop thinking about it

>>13862242
Yeah me too. There's a weirdo out there for everyone. Best wishes finding yours.

>guys, we can stop this activity that predates writing if we just stop people from reading about it

>>13862242
>I want to fuck a man in an anime costume
Congratulations, you're a faggot

>>13862277
>you're a faggot
I know

>>13862277
Yes, and?

>>13862277
the costume is optional

>>13861924
>Should we begin to ban degenerate books
Let’s do it. Luckily, there isn’t a way to transmit text electronically or banning books would have a limited impact on controlling the flow of information.

>>13862294
Don't worry we'll just shut down the internet and kill anyone who tries to communicate illegal information. Welcome to Islamic Communism.

>>13862298
>Welcome to Islamic Communism.
Yo, if there is anyone who needs to crack open a book, it is you.

>>13862311
baka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_socialism

>>13862292
Is this the same person?

>>13862318
Wow, that actually sounds pretty cool.

>>13861924
you will never have sex.

>>13862338
Yep
https://mobile.twitter.com/shano0123

>>13862370
phoneposter begone

>>13862370
Amazing! You're the best, thank you, anon.

Rightcucks lol

BURN ALL THE BOOKS
yeaaaaaah
I like burning books.

>>13861924
Fuck off back to your containment board polcuck

>>13861940
butt hurt fly
lol

>>13861924

Crying about "degeneracy" and calls for repression are the last gasp of a dying culture or a dying nation, just let it go, you can't conserve anything, and why would you want to? The core of all beauty lies in how it's ephemeral

>>13861952
you have to go back

>>13861924
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself retard waste of air

You can't fight degeneracy and decadence. It's going to happen whether you like it or not. You can never go back to the old ways. You have to push through it. It won't last forever, but we have to reach a breaking point before the death of God is fully realized, and the new man emerges.

>>13863615
It's kind of fascinating watching it happen. The next step is full-blown antisemitism.

>>13861940

>>13863661
Gonna have to disagree with that image desu, milfs and gilfs are great

>>13861924
Funny, without degeneracy the West wouldn't exist at all. There is no reason married sex is so attractive if premarital sex isn't. Hence no reason to get married at all. And because of the common custom of excusing premarital sex that resulted in pregnancy by blessing it with a wedding, especially before easily available contraceptives, this has ensured everyone is descended from degenerates in western society.

Those that passed on their genes most were those that ignored the rules most. You can't escape the red pill so easily.

>>13863661
So glad I'm a lesbian and don't have to deal with the horrific heterosexual paradigm.
Also she looks pretty cute in both pics. Would have threesome with her older and younger self.

>>13861967
Calm down, fascist.

>>13863709
Based and pussyeatingpilled

>>13863709
Enjoy your cope

>>13863726
Not a cope lol, I was born like this.
Also those pics are so obviously taken at different lens diameters, picrelated

you're on the most degenerate site on the internet, and are complaining about degeneracy.

you are the problem, you're unable to see yourself in a mirror

>>13863661
>>13863726
Photos such as these are proof positive incels are broken. You seek out someone for companionship and love, not solely attraction. These photos are hardly any dramatic change. Calm down with your ridiculous standards

>>13863757
>Please continue to love me even though I look like an old catcher's mitt and I spent years not developing a personality because I didn't anticipate this would ever happen to me!

No dice, grandma. You're stuck this way now.

>>13861924
Very few people even read books nowadays.
That said, I'm not sure that banning shows/movies which promote bad morals is a bad idea. The world would be a better place without the likes of Sex and the City.

But given how the powers-that-be are, it is much more likely that they ban books promoting good morals than books promoting promiscuity, drugs, etc.

>>13863765
And you have the balls to call women shallow

>>13863765
>he looks into the mirror every night
>face strained with years of posting and blue light has whithered his once youthful complexion
>he attempts to cry and muster some sort of emotion
>but all he can say is a pitiful weep of "...its the jews...."

>>13863785
>>13863800
I am not shallow. I have told women for years to develop a personality and a soul instead of relying on the default template personality "woman in prime of youth," which results in infinite free attention even if you're 4-5/10, because that template is only viable for 4-8 years and then depreciates faster than a new car.

I am criticizing women who identify as their physical husk, not the rare handful of women who are real people (AKA honorary men).

>>13863709
I know right?! [my new favorite reaction image]

>>13863765
You don’t know what love is.

>>13863661
Naomi Watts is like 50 and she is still pretty hot

>>13861924
Absolutely, Furthermore Carthago Delenda Est.

idk on this one chief

>>13861924
No books should ever be banned. Also Thomas frank rules

>>13861995
Yes let’s start by banning everything that isn’t tailored to your value system. You alone should control everything that is disseminated to the public. Shut the fuck up

>>13862009
You’ve got to be trolling

>>13861924
Banning books is censorship, no.

Burning them publicly though is fine.

>>13861924
Why shouldn't culture erode?