/lit/ - Literature

Never read 1 star reviews or 5 star reviews, unless you know the reviewer is actually smart

>>13958381

>>13958345
What does Wodehouse mean by this?

>>13958345
In the first book he commits rape, murder and treason and manages to convince everyone in England that he's a hero.

However you shouldn't read them expecting the books to be offensive for the sake of offensive. They're great books, but they're great because they're very entertaining adventure stories wrapped around genuinely excellent historical research.

>>13958401
Sounds indescribably based

>>13958390
>As soon as I finished it, it became trash, man.
Holy BASED

>>13958401
Well i'm sold

>>13958345
Only by modern standards. In some ways they are kind of proto-woke -- an amused tweak of imperial masculinity, but we live in an age of scolds.

OP here, I just found out it’s not a trilogy. There are 12 books. I was just looking at a collection of three of them

>>13958390
Reasonable critique.
Of course the aspiring rapists here like it

>>13958434
>aspiring

>>13958419
You can read any of them standalone OP, a few have recurring characters but you can quickly gather all you need to from context. The best method might be to pick whichever historical event sounds most interesting to you.

>>13958434
PLEASE cut your dick off

>>13958390
convinced me to check it out tbqh

>>13958445
I’ve never had such a thing

>>13958434
>rape is bad
I thought you were better than this, Butterfly.

>>13958390
>In India, he refers to every native person he describes by reference to their skin color, repeatedly using the n-word
Utterly based
Also why do people like this have such stick up their asses??

>>13958434
Bullshit critique. The character is a selfish, narcissistic liar who willingly mocks principles, betrays most people he meets and constantly brags about his sexual exploits. Flashman isn't supposed to be a character who redeems himself. He's supposed to be a terrible person and never depicted otherwise.

They are supposed to be offensive; its satire of the Victorians.

>>13958345
Fraser is quite good. His “Quartered Safe Out Here” is one of the best available WWII autobiographies (in this case, the British campaigns in Burma).
>>13958434
How do you know the critique is “reasonable” if you’ve never read the books? Sounds to me like you’re projecting again.

>>13958481
is this picture hot shit on /lit/ or something?

>>13958494
With a wink and a nod. See this troll >>13958481
>>13958497
Through twelve books we’re supposed to find him oh so ghastly and naughty. A thank-goodness-we’re-not-like-that-anymore. Alright, anon. I accept your apology. Just don’t expect me to walk my city without a loaded weapon

>>13958581
In light of this post >>13958381 Obviously ot a professional full review

>>13958599
No, just shit. Reimagining Stirner as an anime loli doesn’t work

>>13958604
You clearly haven't read the books so I don't see why you think you understand how he's depicted.

Are you going to give Patrick Bateman the same treatment for being a rapist serial killer?

>>13958604
If you can’t defend your property (e.g. your vagina), then you don’t deserve to own it.

>>13958625
>In light of this post >>13958381 # Obviously ot a professional full review
Based on a post that says you shouldn’t read 1- or 5-star reviews, you conclude that soiboi Todd’s review is “reasonable” because he’s not a professional reviewer? This makes absolutely no sense. If you haven’t read the books in question you should obviously refrain from commenting.

>>13958675
>understand how he's depicted.
Go on and elucidate for us.
>Are you going to give Patrick Bateman the same treatment
Did you even read the one star review? Context was his whole angle. Yes, I realize Bateman is treated like a folk hero on this site, but he’s not treated this way in the book or film.
Having a bit of fun with a cad/rapist. And it goes on for twelve books. Is he ever slapped in Turkish jail and raped by his captors? The natives of some colony get to tear his limbs out at the end of it all? No? No release for the reader. No just deserts.
Only guessing. Go on.

>>13958715
>Shoots

>>13958724
It’s reasonable for a non professional reviewer.
>if only you had read
Still nothing. Where did he get it wrong? He looked at a narrow part of it. Actually defend it or stfu

>>13958754
Flashman is a coward who betrays everyone who trusts him for his own safety or sometimes just out of malice. The books are told from the character's point of view and structured as Flashman's confessions.

The character originally came from a book called Tom Brown's schooldays, where Flashman was posh boy bully who harasses and torments the main character.

The situations that Flashman gets dragged into are usually a direct result of his petty attempts to get revenge on people who've slighted him or win the affection of women. The fun comes from seeing Flashman oscillate between doing terrible things and somehow contriving to constantly place himself in concurrently worse situations as a direct result of his cowardice and pettiness.

>>13958832
But nothing as bad as getting sodomized in a Turkish prison?
Thank you

>>13958854
Wrong again. Try reading books before giving your opinion on them.

The books are satire, Jesus fucking Christ.

>>13958883
>Wrong question
>Wrong to thank the effort poster
Shove off.

>>13958896
I am the effort poster, I mean you're wrong that he doesn't suffer anything as bad as getting sodomized in a Turkish prison. He suffers that and worse throughout the series on multiple occasions, sometimes heavily implied sometimes stated outright.

I presumed your thank you was sarcastic however so I wouldn't have otherwise been so blunt. You should seriously stop assuming things about books you haven't read though.

>>13958754
How does someone make it into their late 40’s being this dumb?
If you think this is a community of rapists why do you spend almost all of your time here? Go on tumblr or r*ddit or something. People might actually like you there.

>>13958930
Ah. Well, thank you again. Missing names and all.

Again, this is all someone conflating “reasonable”. It was reasonable for an unprofessional and narrow review. That’s all I meant

>>13958953
You’re embarrassing.

>>13958434
rape is a spook

>>13960362
*shoots you*

>>13960413

>>13958345
Based Flashman is indisputably /ourguy/

Came to hear about this Flashman series. Stayed to see Butterfly proven to be, not a tranny, but a fucking idiot.

The Flashman books are great, I cannot recommend them enough. Rip-roaring adventure full of titties and swordplay and reluctant heroics. They're a blast, I wish more people on /lit/ knew about them.

It just gets more satisfying every time butterfly gets BTFO'd for talking about another book it hasn't read.

>>13960740
>Rip-roaring adventure full of titties and swordplay and reluctant heroics
sold

I love how smug he looks.
I might have to read these.

>>13958390
Imagine forcing yourself to read a book that you hate.

The more a book upsets people, the more I want to read it.

>>13958390
>Violentl misogyny
yeah, it must be pretty good

>>13958393
it's a hard world for women, you know

>>13960754
You see that triptych she always post? Those are the only book she've ever read.