/lit/ - Literature

3 pages a day is quite a lot

>>13978598
>How do I get good?
Depends on your objective. To write commercial fiction requires a bit of persistence. Going beyond that requires a bit of talent.

>Where's a good place to start?
Depends on your level. If you haven't mastered craft, read John Gardner's Art of Fiction. Also The Art of Dramatic Writing. After that study your favorite authors, copy them, replicate their effects.

>What does a writing exercise look like?
Gardner has some helpful exercises. Ideally the training should emulate the test. If you want to practice writing novels, then write novels for practice. If short stories, then write stories etc. Likewise for any individual piece of that process (outlining, rewriting, researching etc.). Also rewriting is where the actual writing is done.

Finally, the closest to CtrlPaint for writing is probably something like the CC forum. The quality of the writers there are pretty low, but it's often helpful to get a intuitive appraisal of what works and what doesn't in your work.

>>13978606
I use 3pages.fr, so it's not really 3 pages, it's actually 750 words. It takes about 25 minutes or less if I rush it. I don't think very much I just write.
Sometimes it just doesn't come and I don't get anywhere. I'll still hit the three pages but it will feel awful.

>>13978624
Thanks, I definitely haven't mastered craft so I guess I'll start with Gardner.

I've heard that you're supposed to rewrite everything a couple times, mostly streamline your writing and get rid of all the unnecessary shit. Haven't really thrown out my stuff and started over like that, I just edit it.
Unnecessary length is quite often seen in most amateur writers, like people who write fanfiction - they write millions of words meandering bullshit, with no end in sight. Don't listen to retards like Stephen King and plot your book/novel etc. extensively.
If you've done drawing or tried to improve in any creative pursuit, you already know what to do. You are blind to your own mistakes, it's like they are your Jungian shadow, you have to continuously learn to spot them. Schopenhauer wrote to never read bad works, but they are quite a good teacher as far as commonly made mistakes and shortcomings go.

>>13978624
>all that reddit spacing
>Going beyond
>mastered craft
>unironically recommending Gardner

I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously

>>13978663
Well he answered the question.

bump

>>13978598
>I've never actually reread or critiqued anything I wrote though and just discard it.

You really should practice editing things which you wrote for a purpose.

"No, Agbhorgh!" Shouted the goblin servant. "Please spare my wife and children!"

The Dark Lord presiding cocked his eyebrows in surprise. "Spear?"

"Y-yes," squealed the servant. "Please, oh great master, please." The goblin got down on his knees and begged for the life of his wife and children, tears streaming down his hideous face.

"Very well."

>>13979175
And so it was, that goblins decided amongst themselves, to stop using english, and speak gobbish instead.

>>13978606
>that pic
Fuck I know these feels... I haven't got a single thing published after 6 years...

>>13979187
there's no word for "spare" in gobbish

Write something.

Read it.

Is it what you wanted it to be?

If yes, you're a brainlet with no future but ignorance is bliss. Write to your heart's content.

If no, figure out why it isn't what you wanted it to be and then do it again but differently so that it is. The smarter you are the better you will be able to figure out the exact problem and the less tries it will take you to get it right.

>>13979729
>this man presents common sense as wisdom
>hurr figure out how to improve and then improve

you've yet to achieve midwit

>>13979772
There is no secret trick.

>>13978598
[Actually go back and read some of it? I used to turn & burn like the manslayer I am and I cannot tell you what great grace of humbling puncture wounds that rereading left upon it. It was all terrible. All of it. But there were nuggets I loved. Loved so much I wanted them NOT to be terrible and that in my last dying breath I will fucking make not-terrible and maybe someone will read my diary and look at me, twirling my parasol like an Aes Rock metaphor[?] Stand in and grin their SJW-thirsty wide teef smile, I would feel valide and entitled and something?

Reread that shit, white man. Face your mistakes like a german existentialist writing YA fiction.]

>>13978598
>15 steps
why so many
just get pen, paper, and write

>>13979795
You have a really weird way of making too short sentences, desu you write weirdly in general. Don't take this the wrong way, but how is your mental health?

>>13979213
>He doesn't write genre fiction
Sorry KID. You were destined to fail from the beginning.

I'm assuming you've tried self publishing?

>>13979881
[In absolute shambles. But I guess I like the way I write? People tell me a lot that the way I write just is not how people talk, but that is how I hear them talk in my head? I dunno. I am just gonna tell people I am experimental or something.

>>13980835
it's overly dramatic, you're confusing good writing with feeling while writing.