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What book captures the incel experience most accurately?

>> No.14165789
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>>14165785
my diary desu

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>>14165785

>> No.14165859

>>14165814
un-ironically based

>> No.14165863

Whatever by Houllebecq

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>> No.14166361

>>14165785
Pleasant Hell by John Dolan
Notes From The Underground

>> No.14166371

>>14165785
How are men having less sex with women?

>> No.14166376

>>14166371
than women*

freudian slip lel

>> No.14166380

>>14166371
breakdown of monogamy
breakdown of marriage
job access for women
tinder

>> No.14166382

>>14166371
fewer men are having more, less men are having any

>> No.14166386

>>14166380
>>14166382
So one guy is plowing multiple women? I wouldn't know, I live in a basement.

>> No.14166428

>>14166386
The same thing that happened several thousands of years ago when only the largest, most dimorphic and psychopathic males were mating with harems of females. We had it right for a time with monogamy but now we're back to the jungle. I don't think an utter fuckwit like you understands the overarching affects of modernity, of the hyperstimuli that we have unleashed upon the human psyche, but in your very paltry defense most people remain ignorant to the causes / consequences of human error

>> No.14166445

>>14166428
dangerously redpilled, they obviously don’t want you to know about this

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>>14166428
I don't think you know the difference between effect and affect professor

>> No.14166460

>>14166428
>The same thing that happened several thousands of years ago when only the largest, most dimorphic and psychopathic males were mating with harems of females
sounds based. ressentiment-based sexuality is coming undone.

>> No.14166501

>>14166460
It isn't based at all; it is barbaric and it lessens the genetic quality of people as a whole. Subhumans love to think that the strongest qualities of the human is his athleticism, his physicality, his sexual potency, etc. but fail to realize that IQ, technical ability, impulse control, compulsion resistance, agreeableness, compassion, versatility and bravery - in essence, his higher mind; the quality of his SPIRIT, is what glorifies man. Women's instincts are proactively against this.

>> No.14166524

>>14166501
>>14166428
very based
only subhuman animals will disagree

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>>14165785

>> No.14166555

How was that Kill All Normies book?

>> No.14166558

>>14166428
>>14166501
It won't last. Unlike several thousands of years ago, nowadays the guys who are losing in this situation are acutely aware of what's happening.

>> No.14166563

>>14165785
whatever

>> No.14166634

>>14165785
Too early, more stuff will come out in thr coming decade.
Until then all you've got is Whatever.

>> No.14166643

>>14166558
How will the uprising pan out

>> No.14166662

>>14166643
The dumb ones will follow the fascists, thinking alpha males will help them.
The smarter ones will join coed ranks of socialists

>> No.14166671

>>14166662
>socialist simps who grovel at the feet of femoids will help them
fuck you butters you retard

>> No.14166673

>>14165868
i hate modernity

>> No.14166674

>>14166662
How's the YPG doing right now?

>> No.14166682

>>14166428
strong charismatic high quality and high value males can literally pick and choose. If you ever watch some dating shows there's always some older man there that the girls instantly cream themselves over just begging to be fucked and he is coming out of his 5th marriage with a total of 20 kids. These people will rule the world.

>> No.14166712

>it is the inner qualities that matter, not looks, just look at einstein and hawking!
>haha you can't get with a girl? what a fucking loser, your genes don't deserve to be passed on

How will society reconcile itself to the modern conundrum?

>> No.14166774

>>14165785
The Temple of the Golden Pavillon - Yukio Mishima

>> No.14166776

>>14166671
They’ll have a greater chance at pussy.

>>14166673
What? The title is bigger than the authors name (and ass)

>>14166674
I’m sure they’re fine

>> No.14166819

>>14165868
These people are so fucking narcissistic.

>> No.14166845

>>14166428
Maybe stop being an incel subhuman and girls will fuck you?

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>>14166776
._.

>> No.14166861

>>14165868
Fucking COOOM

>> No.14167222

>>14165785
unironically Elliot Rodger's manifesto

>> No.14167263

>>14166428
Too redpilled for this board.
This neolithic sexuality is effectively putting women in charge of a giant 'eugenics' program. Who could ever think that was a good idea?

>> No.14167303

>>14166428
Unironically have sex incel

>> No.14167313

>>14165868
> Judge this cover
7/10, nice ass, shame about the face.

>> No.14167316

>>14166845
>Maybe stop being an incel subhuman and girls will fuck you?
And then what?

>> No.14167500

>>14167316
You don't know? You'll be happy for the rest of your life.

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This is the much scarier graph. As is the study that showed that 1/4 of Norwegian men aren't having children, which was much larger than the percentage of Norwegian women not having children. Sexual selection is back in full force

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>>14166662
>The smarter ones will join coed ranks of socialists

>> No.14168007

>>14165868
Decent body, immeasurably disappointing face

>> No.14168016

>>14168007
>today, I am volcel!

>> No.14168020

>>14167991
These "women" look like they could be related to Butterfly. Cracks me up.

>> No.14168031

>>14166501
Just to play devil's advocate but if this female empowered sexual incel deprivation is a eugenics situation, then only the most physically fit and attractive get to have offspring if chance, and only the most intelligent who can generate other attractors such as wealth or power will pass on thier genes through planned reproduction. This you have the most physically fit and the most intelligent passing on genes, while the incels of low physical and intellectual ability don't reproduce. I think a system of sexual welfare like a monogamous 19th century ideal where every last goober gets matched up and churns out ugly dumblings is worse. More undesirable genes are passed on that way. I like this eugenics by social pressure we have now. It's closer to the state of nature, the humane genome has too many errors and useless garbage in it. Needs some jungle purification.

>> No.14168041

>>14165785
isn't it God I Wish That Were Me by BigJB21

That or Sorrows of Young Werther

>> No.14168043

>>14168031
the big factor you're omitting here is welfare, and whether the people who largely pay for it will continue to work in this new system

>> No.14168049

>>14167945
Tbh this graph is horrifying for many reasons beyond women not wanting men. If men were desperate enough for sexual release they would find it within themselves to copulate. Unfortunately men are overstimulated by porn, gratification via social media and general pan et circum. They have no desire to really chase the modern woman as she desires to be chased.

I’m a virgin. I’m also depressed, but not about the virginity as much. I don’t share many values that modern women have. Young men aren’t really as comradery driven as they used to be. It’s hard to find friends. We’d rather stay in and browse the internet, watch porn or read books. This will have disastrous effects on our culture, surely it will. But it seems like the cultural icons of the time believe that the State of the modern man is as it should be.

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>>14167991
Fuck your cherrypicking

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>>14168049
>I’m a virgin

>> No.14168062

>>14168055
look its more embarrassing, bisexual larpers who actually think they can start a revolution and overthrow the government

>> No.14168069

>>14168062
Bootlickers.
Hiding on a animu website

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>>14168069
commie manchild

>> No.14168072

The weak and downtrodden are trying to fight back, and you’re bitching about their fuckability.
Christian larpers, man.

>> No.14168076

>>124083690
according to women, yes

one of the biggest red pills is the first time you realize that women experience literally no disconnect between saying X when it feels good to say X, and completely betraying and contradicting X five seconds later when it feels good to do that. women like to "try on" male-centric morals and virtues like children playing dress-up, but they don't actually know what it means to set up a virtue as an objective principle for oneself and then resist the temptation to break it in future moments when it stops being convenient and pleasant.

so if you ask a woman what kind of guy she values, she will blab on and on for hours about how noble she is and how she sees through superficiality and only wants sweet genuine men and etc., etc., etc. then five seconds later she'll completely contradict everything she said. the key thing to understand about women is that they don't perceive any difference here. from a man's perspective, you are thinking "but she said 'i only do X' and two seconds later she did 'non-X'?" this is because the fundamental modality of male consciousness is erecting principles and trying to follow them - even if you're a shitty man, it just means you're shitty and weak at erecting principles, not that the FUNDAMENTAL modality of principle-erection is absent. a woman's fundamental modality is "doing what i feel like." to a woman, that behavior is completely consistent: in the first instance, she did what she felt like. then she did what she felt like again. only a man perceives that the CONTENT of the actions was contradictory, i.e., would be contradictory if performed by a man. but for a woman whose primary stream of consciousness is "what do i want to do right now? :) perhaps i'll wear a ribbon in my hair tomorrow, tra la la!," no such contradiction occurred, or indeed is even possible.

>> No.14168089

>>14167500
Clearly not working out for normie males

>> No.14168106

>>14168076
This is way to redpilled, completely unironically

>> No.14168125

>>14168072
The weak and downtrodden are fighting for the wrong things. They will be contented by minor shifts in policy. Medicare for all and trans rights(I’m sure you’re happy with that one). Despite all of their posing with guns and counter protests(basing your movement on reactions instead of action is a movement that is designed to fail), they aren’t equipped to institute societal upheaval.

This is why fascism will win, and communists will continue to destroy their own towns and pose with firearms that they want banned.

>> No.14168131

>>14168125
no. the extremes of both sides in america live in their own largely online fantasy worlds right now. nazis arent actually coming back and communist cant take over shit here

>> No.14168139

>>14168055
Thats also pretty bad senpai

>> No.14168142

>>14168072
Socialism is just Christian morality applied to our economic system. Why would a so-called Nietzschean like you care?

>> No.14168150

Will the unfuckable remain apathetic or will we see some real shot go down?

>> No.14168154

>>14168131
My friend, the extremes ARE America. Political polarization is increasing at a rate only previously recognized during times of severe social strife. The fact that people ARE communists or fascist, and the fact that they are in significant number to be seen in large gatherings is a sign of this. Moderates have disappointed the general public for long enough that their voter base is looking for other options. Americans are trending left, yes, but those on the left originally are only going further left, and those on the right, confronted with the abandonments of their ideals and way of life, are going further right in a vain attempt to stop the flow of ideology. This will only continue as the right is emboldened by the election of right wing candidates, and the left reacts accordingly. All of this comes at a time where an economic downturn is all but garunteed by the nature of our economic system.

>> No.14168161

>>14168154
>Political polarization is increasing at a rate only previously recognized during times of severe social strife
because of social media. like I said before, most of this shit is just online

>> No.14168175

>>14168161
I think that social media is simply the new cafe. Ideas are introduced and taken home, where they root. Sure, there aren’t any legitimate fascist or communist politicians. But the ideas are being presented and accepted online. Currently, the hosts of these ideas are comfortable if disappointed. They are employed and likely content. All that can change is an economic downturn meets a polarized and increasingly hostile political environment.

>> No.14168180

>>14168150
They are unfuckable BECAUSE they are apathetic. All they have to do is latch onto just one factor that will make them fuckable and go after that with all they have. Physical attraction, money, power, fame. Pick one and go after it. That's what all those ugly loosers did who went after money and fame. They did it to get laid. Even just basic academic endeavors will yield enough chances to find a breadable female. If you can't then we are absolutely better off without your genes.

>> No.14168199

The reason all advanced cultures independently developed monogamy is because social stability is incompatible with a steep sexual hierarchy. We're all fucked.

>> No.14168280

>>14167945
>As is the study that showed that 1/4 of Norwegian men aren't having children, which was much larger than the percentage of Norwegian women not having children.
As a Norwegian I would a source on this.

>> No.14168300

>>14168280
https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047

>> No.14168423

This period in time is a disaster. No one enjoys working, and it is globally accepted that we're miserable. The select few men who are ""redpilled"" and accept reality as it is, they try their best to strive instead of spending time critiquing society, and they are the ones who attract all the women. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out why a woman would want to choose this man over the one who flows in a river of misery, resents its society and dreams of change whilst doing nothing.

>> No.14168437

>>14168076
literally redpilled

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>>14165785
Mein Kampf.

>> No.14168448

>>14168073
LOL this! Right on the button!

>> No.14168461

>>14168072
Butt Hurt Fly.
lol

>> No.14168471

>>14166671
Why let a trip razzle your rectum?

>> No.14168482

>>14168073
>>14168448
>>14168471
>>14166671
gen-z, /pol/ infested ironic memers are the beginning of the end of /lit/
unless they start with the greeks

>> No.14168483

>>14168076
This. Been married for 19 years now, and yep, they are like this. Women are great but you cannot expect them to think like men, more like pubescent children. Just do not expect too much of them and they are easy to get along with.

>> No.14168506

>>14166428
religion can't even save us

>> No.14168525

>>14165868
Gimmick idea unsubtantiated by poor image choice. I judge it a 5/10.

>> No.14168531

>>14166428
>when a noob unknowingly enters a high level area and gets instakilled

>> No.14168538

>>14168076
I literally don't understand what you wrote, i'm like a chicken in front of a knife

>> No.14168566

>>14168538
tldr
women are retarded children

>> No.14168584

>>14168538
basically, women will say they agree with certain things in the heat of the moment just because it FEELS (<-keyword) right in the current moment. 5 minutes later she can forget about what she said and contradict herself and not even realize what she just did. this is unironically redpill theory and I personally don't advise you go that route. or do, as long as you're not a brainlet who is incapable of thinking for himself.

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Before the faggot jannies delete this threadet's have a serious talk about the incel situation, /lit/
I think one of the first things to note is that, despite the name, being an incel is not related to sex, but to a necessity of female validation to build your "self" around.
I think it's safe to say that to be aware of the "incel" condition, one must be at least a bit clever, and a man in that position surely has higher aspirations and values that can and should replace the feminine presence when it comes to becoming his own person.
The second thing to consider is that despite the validity of the "looks redpill", status stills matters quite a bit, and that not all women are the usual tinder thot you can find around you. A man who carves his own niche in the world and follows his own path, can probably put himself in a situation where he has high status (say being the founder of a book club, for instance, or a good writer), those situations will then act as a filter to bring him close to girls who will be compatible with his lifestyle and will be able to appreciate the status gathered there, even if it's niche.
I like to think I'm among relatively intelligent guys here, so tell me: do you seriously see yourself going to clubs and putting effort into getting a drunken, sweaty thot to your place?
At the end, the hardship to find mates can be a positive thing.
What do you think? I'm willing to have an honest conversation about this topic.

>> No.14168627

>>14168610
>I think it's safe to say that to be aware of the "incel" condition, one must be at least a bit clever
Have you ever been to /r9k/?

To answer your question; no, I am not willing to approach women at all, they are scary and it would make me anxious.

>> No.14168652

>>14168610
the best information you can get out of redpill is "do you and the pussy will come". the redpill is a mix of good advice and sociopathic manipulation tricks, such as:
- when with a group of girls, look and talk to the ones you are not interested in, because the female you are interested in will become interested in you, after seeing that you are not interested in her, but in her friends.

you must filter the sociopathy out and practice basic shit like: taking care of yourself in terms of hygiene and fitness, following your passions, not chasing women, yadayada

life is so simple and with all the shit we have going on, it's easy to overthink in the hopes of reaching the "best outcome".

>> No.14168658

>>14165814
Old but gold

>> No.14168665

>>14168076
B&R

>> No.14168670

Why do american incels not lobby for the legalization of prostitution? This would solve all of your problems

>> No.14168678

>>14168610
inceldom is a widespread case of the madonna-whore complex

>> No.14168685

>>14168670
No one gives a shit about busting a nut, it is the emotional intimacy, handholding, cuddling, kissing, hugging and hair smelling people miss out on and long for.

>> No.14168686

>>14168670
Feminists are against it. It's why Canada and Sweden made prostitution illegal, despite being socially liberal countries. In the US, both social conservatives and feminists are in coalition making sure that prostitution remains illegal.

>> No.14168696

>>14168685
based
whores fucking suck, I would rather have intimate sex with a 6/10 girl than fuck a 9/10 whore

>> No.14168706

>>14168055
>Fuck your cherrypicking
>Posts promotional, cherrypicked image

>> No.14168710

>>14168696
both have their place, and i think regulated prostitution is 100% in the interest of feminists. it's just that new-age feminists are nothing but online cult members.

>> No.14168712

>>14168685
Then your problem is way deeper than inceldom.

>> No.14168724

>>14168610
There's nothing particularly complex about the phenomenon. Non-monogamy creates a steep sexual hierarchy, and dating apps allow attractive men to effectively monopolize dating in any given area. Incels already know that both status and looks play a part in attractiveness, they just don't think that it's fair that they have to play that game when their fathers didn't.

>> No.14168730

>>14168712
What? Are you saying people that miss out on intimacy and longs for intimacy are fucked up? This is LITERALLY what inceldom is you dumb fucking spic. Understand the fucking terms you are spewing you drooling fucking infant. Big yikes from me.

>> No.14168735

>>14168031
>le meritocracy meme

>> No.14168742

>>14168584
thanks enlightened anon

>> No.14168746

>>14168730
>>>/pol/

>> No.14168757

>>14168724
human relationships just follow the same laws and dynamics of modern liberalism

>> No.14168768

>>14168746
dilate tranny

>> No.14168783

>>14168652
redpill pua is horseshit advice
it only works for good looking males
watch FaceandLMS and youtube

>> No.14168795

>>14168730
You are a broken man, no one will ever love you the way you want, give your life any other meaning you can grasp or else you'll forever be a pitiful beetle.

>> No.14168815

>>14168055
This is incredibly non-threatening and goofy. For example, I doubt any of them are able to run a consistent 5km jog which is far more important than holding a rifle.

>> No.14168838

>>14167991
What do you expect? An ideology that appeals to some elusive "mass culture" is of course only going to appeal to those without any metaphysical attachment to the familiar. These "global" people are really surface level consumers. Communism was mostly surface level ideological existence kept in check through violent purges of intellectuals, military, and opposition as well as mass relocations campaigns. The Communists understood a people were more easy to rule once they were torn from their metaphysical homes and scattered to the four corners, mixed with a herd of others kept malnourished and waiting in long lines for worthless objects. Their architectural ideas reflected this more pronounced because they still exist today as monuments to the gray mass lack of metaphysics that they longed to bring the world into. When I see London, NYC, LA, Warsaw, Paris, and Berlin among other cities I think of them as well. There is no real differecne between any of those cities I mentioned, all of them are sunken gray blocs of herdism.

>> No.14168994

>>14166555
It’s like if an anthropologist dud participant observation on /pol/ and uncritically took every infographic and tumblr troll blog screenshot as absolute truth. It’s the most insipid thing I’ve ever read.

>> No.14169492

>>14168795
Stop strawmaning the guy just because he exposed your retardation,

>> No.14169502

>>14168125
You don’t know shit about their plight.
Fascism is in control now. You mean nationalism. Which the merchant class doesn’t care about, since they have no allegiance to any one nation. That’s why your pet splinter group won’t “win”

>>14168139
>>14168706
It’s a random image of Redneck Revolution I just then grabbed. I don’t keep these things on my pad or computer.

>>14168142
Why are you stuck in the 19th century?

>>14168815
Goalpost moving

>>14168768
No, really. Gtfo

>> No.14169532

>>14168031
The problem here is that female choice selects for traits whose evolutionary necessity have been overcome by civilization. Aggressivity, violence, hunger for dominance, these may be useful traits for you to have if you live in a tribal society in a jungle where life is perilous and short, and it's no wonder that female sexuality evolved to appreciate such traits, but we won't live in such a society anymore. We live in ordered, stable civilizations, and having female choice rewarding the kind of behavior that goes against the maintenance of such a civilized society puts everything at risk.

>> No.14169536

The Vagina-Ass of Lucifer Niggerbastard
Sex and the Failed Absolute has a whole section on incels, but it's disinfo because Zizek
>>14168076
Truth

>> No.14169544

>>14166371
80/20

>> No.14169568

>>14168757
Which just makes ironic how so many critics of economic liberalism supports the sexual market laissez-faire, and vice-versa, critics of the sexual liberalism supporting laissez-faire economics.

People always want to regulate the markets where they are not competitive.

>> No.14169717

Become a volcel.

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>>14169568
I want to regulate both.

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>>14165814
Incredibly based, based to the max, I really can't take someone's opinions on literature, philosophy, RPGs, Sonic/Knuckles, or pretty much anything until they've read this masterpiece.
Only a true autist can fathom its profundity.

>> No.14169843

>>14169532
Yes of course. That's the whole point. As soon as the sexual revolution happened the last hope for stabile Western society collapsed. At best we will fall to some kind of semi-western partially stable hedonist state like Brazil. But such a civilization can't land on the moon, not can it withstand what the Chinese have planned for the world.

That's why I selected my wife for breeding needs, large bones, heavy features, and muscle carrying capacity and she has borne me two very large and beautiful sons with the same features. I will raise them to be brutal warlords in the coming downfall. There is no other option really. The Ancestors demand that the genetic struggle for survival continues. If they grow up to be faggy little neet incells, too stupid to shoot goo into sloots then I will take the knife to thier throats myself.

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Why is nobody taking advantage of this incel question? Is it too fresh or are people just blind to it. I've been to army and would be actually willing to even go all the way if there was someone clever enough to exploit the whole thing. Do I really need to wait for the islamic takeover of Europe to get my revenge.

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>>14165785
The Foundation for Exploration

>> No.14170183

>>14165868
ba-ba-ba-BOOOBIES :333

>> No.14170192

>>14170183
Not me

>> No.14170202

>>14168055
Jesus and I thought fascist LARPers were bad

>> No.14170203

>>14170192
ok who are you then?

>> No.14170216

>>14166845
you think you're being edgy but I feel only pity for you.

>> No.14170222

>>14168055
These people look more in shape at least?

>> No.14170244

>>14168678
can confirm as virgin incel

>> No.14170263

>>14169978
People are aware of the incel question, but many don't believe the claims of incels as a group because much of the evidence to support those claims is either self-reported or lacking in a strong link to any one particular social change. Incel theory is unfalsifiable, so it gets critiqued as a form of sensationalism and hysteria.

People don't even have a clear consensus on what caused the incel epidemic in the first place-- Incels say it happened because of feminism and hypergamy, Feminists say it happened because of Internet forums breeding toxic masculinity, Marxists link it to Marx's theory of alienation and so on.

>> No.14170267

>>14169978
I also wonder why no cult has tried to enlist incels en masse by promising them gfs. I guess women are so viscerally disgusted by them that even when brainwashed by a cult leader they will still refuse to date one.

>> No.14170317

>>14167945
Well if the often-repeated statement 'You have twice as many female ancestors as male ones' is true, this is not surprising at all, from an evolutionary biology perspective.
https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/the-missing-men-in-your-family-tree/
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5qhwjo/eli5_how_come_we_have_twice_as_many_female/

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>>14167991
For God's sake Bubbles, did you really become a socialist?

>> No.14170366

>>14170267
That happens in the book Cult X actually

>> No.14170378

>>14170267
>I also wonder why no cult has tried to enlist incels en masse by promising them gfs.
uhh bro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

>> No.14170387

>>14170263
It's clear that it's primarily because of feminism and hypergamy. It's not even a question unless you're retarded.

>> No.14170400

Confederacy of dunces