/lit/ - Literature

Poetry is just literature for retards.

>>14344824
Powerful...

My favorites are the complete works of Homer, Pindar, Plato, Aristotle, Sophocles, Euripedes, Hesiod, Aristophones, Herodotus, Sappho, Plutarch, Ovid, Virgil, Lucretius, Arisoto, Horace, St. Augustine, Marcus Aurelius, Rabelais, Dante, Petrarch, Boccaccio, Machiavelli, Luther, Cervantes, Chaucer, the Beowulf poet, Chretien de Troyes, Marie de France, Sterne, Burton, Browne, Wyatt, Sidney, Percy Shelley, Tennyson, Donne, Pope, Dryden, Bacon, Novalis, Schelling, Schlegel, Hegel, Pascal, Lichtenberg, Dickinson, Shakespeare, Ibsen, Dickens, Marlowe, Diderot, Jonson, Goethe, Bunyan, Gibbon, Addison, Smollett, Milton, Johnson, Boswell, Emerson, Quincey, Burke, Spinoza, Leibniz, Hume, Kant, Mary Shelley, Wollstonecraft, Racine, Baudelaire, Valery, Rimbaud, Verlaine, Moliere, Montaigne, Browning, Gray, Holderlin, Schiller, Shaw, Voltaire, Hugo, Balzac, Zola, Colette, Duras, Dumas, Stendhal, Nerval, Flaubert, Mallarme, Malraux, Chateaubriand, Artaud, Poe, Wordsworth, Coleridge, Blake, Byron, Keats, Arnold, Pater, Walter Scott, Swinburne, Rossetti, Carroll, William James, Henry James, Hawthorne, Twain, Melville, Dewey, Bergson, Whitehead, George Eliot, Williams, Frost, Cummings, Crane, Stevens, Whitman, Plath, Trakl, Rilke, Celan, Montale, Neruda, Lorca, Tagore, Manzoni, Peake, Murdoch, Wharton, Wilde, Leopardi, Faulkner, O'Connor, Passos, Nietzsche, Marx, Adorno, Bloch, Lukacs, Bakhtin, Hamsun, Pushkin, Gogol, Tolstoy, Turgenev, Chekhov, Andreyev, Bely, Bulgakov, Gonchorov, Camoes, Pessoa, Queiroz, Saramago, Paz, Borges, Bloy, Pirandello, Huysmans, Lautreamont, Schwob, Casares, Bolano, Cortazar, Lima, Donoso, de Assis, Carpentjier, Celine, Marquez, Unamuno, Gracq, Gide, Jarry, Camus, Conrad, Wells, Hardy, Salinger, Lawrence, Forster, Hrabal, Swift, Bronte, Woolf, Bachelard, Roussel, Beckett, Proust, Nabokov, Joyce, O'Brien, Yeats, Waugh, Heaney, Auden, Hofmannsthal, Mann, Musil, Broch, Zweig, Bachmann, Jelinek, Lessing, Laxness, Simenon,Svevo, Levi, Buzzati, Quasimodo, Llosa, Walser, Kafka, Babel, Schulz, Transtromer, Kertesz, Pavic, Andric, Grossmann,Sillanpää, Linna, Mahfouz, Boll, Grass, Canetti, Pavese, Robbe-Grillet, Blanchot, Perec, Calvino, Bernhard, Gass, Barth, Gaddis, Vollmann, Vidal, Hawkes, DeLillo, Pynchon, McElroy, Soseki, Murasaki, Shonagon, Kawabata, Mishima, Akutagawa, Tanizaki, Dazai, Oe, Xingjian, Yan, Kosztolanyi, Gombrowicz, Ishiguro, Eco, Coetzee, Auerbach, Benjamin, Barthes, Pasternak, Derrida, Deleuze, Bateson, Foucault, Lyotard, Mcluhan, Eichenbaum, Steiner, Munro, Carson, Handke, Theroux, Patrick White, Alfau, Marias, Enard, Claude Simon, Elizabeth Bishop, Markson, Lowry, Bellow, Dara.
And yes, I ignore all pseudointellectual rhetoriticians. How could you tell?

>>14344815
>doesn’t have architecture

>>14344815
>poetry
Death of a Naturalist
Dramatic Lyrics
Goblin Market and Other Poems
Beowulf
Poems: Three Series
>novels
Les Miserables
East of Eden
Fortress Besieged
A Storm of Swords
Silence
>plays
Julius Caesar
The Importance of Being Earnest
Our Town
Waiting for Godot
The Crucible
>painting
Frida Kahlo - Henry Ford Hospital
Vincent Van Gogh - Starry Night
Katsuhika Hokusai - The Great Wave off Kanagawa
John Steuart Curry - Tragic Prelude
Salvador Dali - The Persistence of Memory
>sculpture
Auguste Rodin - The Thinker
Banksy - Cinderella
Anonymous - Venus of Willendorf
Anonymous - Terracotta Army
Paul Landowski - Christ the Redeemer
>music
Modest Mussorgsky - Night on Bald Mountain
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Frank Zappa - Civilization Phaze III
David Bowie - Blackstar
Busdriver - Electricity is On Our Side
>opera
The Barber of Seville
Fidelio
Falstaff
The Magic Flute
Nixon in China
>cinema
Carl Theodor Dreyer - Ordet
Yasujiro Ozu - Late Spring
Andrei Tarkovsky - The Sacrifice
Hu Bo - An Elephant Sitting Still
Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
>television
Carnivale
Twin Peaks
In Treatment
The Young Pope
Rome
>comic books
Strangers in Paradise
The Adventures of Luther Arkwright
Y: The Last Man
American Splendor: Our Cancer Year
Love and Rockets
>anime
Angel's Egg
Whisper of the Heart
Tokyo Godfathers
A Silent Voice
Night is Short, Walk on Girl
>anime shows
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Serial Experiments Lain
Violet Evergarden
Devilman Crybaby
Paranoia Agent
>western cartoons
Fantasia
Fantastic Planet
The Illusionist
The Tragedy of Man
Loving Vincent
>western cartoon shows
Avatar: The Last Airbender
BoJack Horseman
Over the Garden Wall
Undone
Gargoyles
>video games
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Planescape: Torment
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations

>>14344824
>t. plebfiltered

>>14344815
Poetry: Those Winter Sundays
Literature: Hour of the Star
Painting: Van Gogh's Irises
Sculpture: Pierre Puget's Perseus and Andromeda
Music: Tie between Debussy's Clair D'Lune and (Joe Gets Kicked Out of School for Using) Drugs With Friends by Car Seat Headrest
Theater: Richard III
Television: Mad Men
Comic Books: Watchmen
Anime: Samurai Champloo
Western Cartoons: The Last Airbender
Video Games: Halo motherfucking 3
Webcomics: Hark, a Vagrant! and OGLAF

>>14344815
Video games cannot be art.

>>14344936
>that music selection

>>14345013
I'm sorry my list wasn't Kid A, ITAOTS, MBDTF, The Money Store, and ITCOTCK.

>>14344815

Only a few parts for now.

>Video Games
Star Wars Jedi Knight II:Jedi Outcast
Blood (1997)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl

>Cartoons
South Park
Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Fantastic Planet
Fehérlófia
The King and the Mockingbird
>Anime
Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal
Texhnolyze
Mushishi
Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Stood Still
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
>Comics/Manga
2001 Nights
Blame
Cromwell Stone
Hellboy
Star Wars: Dark Empire

>>14344886
Fuck it, I’m going to actual read all these starting now and I’m not even joking I’m going to the library now maybe I’ll see you in ten years /lit/ thank you based classicspammer

>>14344936
garbage taste in pretty much everything except plays

bump

>poetry
le bain avec andromède (robert desnos)
les fleurs du mal (baudelaire)
poésies (mallarmé)
the iliad (homer)

>literature
hebdomeros (de chirico)
aurelia (nerval)
les chants de maldoror (lautreamont)
hunger (hansun)
blue of noon (bataille)

>paintings
the soothsayer's recompense (de chirico)
la main (les remords de conscience) (dali)
the empire of light (magritte)
summer day (bocklin)
angels (paradise) (ciurlionis)
green tea (leonora carrington)

>sculpture
unique forms of continuity in space (boccioni)
the thinker (rodin)
dont really care about sculptures honestly

>music
l'arbre des songes (dutilleux)
piano sonatas (scriabin)
symphony 8 (rautavaara)
harp concerto (ginastera)

>opera
king roger (syzmanowski)
duke bluebeards castle (bartok)
la passion de simone (saariaho)
l'amour de loin (saariaho)

>cinema
un chien andalou (buñuel/dali)
tree of life (malick)
meshes of the afternoon (deren)
dreams (kurosawa)

>theatre
jet of blood (artaud)
ubu roi (jarry)
the balcony (jean genet)
oedipus rex (sophocles)

>television
sports

>comics
>anime
>cartoons
>videogames
>webcomics
>implying

>>14344936
>A Storm of Swords
>Frida Kahlo - Henry Ford Hospital
>Vincent Van Gogh - Starry Night
>Banksy - Cinderella
>Frank Zappa - Civilization Phaze III
????

>>14344815
art is just right reason applied to production so you could put in alot categories

>>14344815

>>14345127
What did you mean by this?

>>14344815
/po/ here. The fact that you completely ignored the highest artform is sadly just more proof of #PapercraftBlindness.

>>14345167
post your top five greatest works in the medium of papercraft

>>14344815
Where is photography? That would be third for me after literature and music (but number one at what I'm good at).

>>14344815
I'm just gonna do some of my favorites
>Poetry
Ah! Why, Because the Dazzling Sun
>Literature
Suttree
Painting
Saturn Devouring His Son
>Music
Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence
>Cinema
Tie between Tree of Life and Ikiru
>TV
Twin Peaks or Breaking Bad
>Comics
The complete works of Moebius
>Anime
Cowboy Bebop
>Cartoons
Avatar
>Vidya
Fallout New Vegas

>>14345208
boring

>poetry
Divine Comedy
Yeats' poetry
Baudalaire's poetry
>novels
The Sound and the Fury
Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy
The Death of Virgil
>plays
Macbeth
Ubu Roi
Peer Gynt
>painting
The Temptation of Saint Anthony - Bosch
Christ of Saint John of the Cross - Dalí
Witches in the Air - Goya
>sculpture
don't care
>music
not worth mentioning
>opera
don't care
>cinema
El Topo
Three Colors: Red
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
>television
The Decalogue
Twin Peaks
Utopia
>comic books
The Frank Book
From Hell
The Metabarons
>anime
Paprika
End of Evangelion
Perfect Blue
>anime shows
haven't seen that many
>western cartoons
The Black Cauldron
Fantastic Mr Fox
Watership Down
>western cartoon shows
Lucky Luke
Tintin
Superjail
>video games
Portal 1 & 2
Age of Empires II
Hotline Miami

>>14345175
A randomly selected work of Akira Yoshizawa beats any cartoon.

>>14345216
p-pls no bully

>>14345217
>music and opera not worth mentioning
>fills out comics, anime, cartoons, videogames
retard

>>14345243
I don't give a shit about opera and music is not worth mentioning because my tastes are meh, not because of the medium.

>Poetry
Byron's Don Juan
>Literature
2666
>Painting
n/a
>Sculpture
n/a
>Music
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
>Opera
n/a
>Cinema
Fanny and Alexander
>Theater
The Importance of Being Earnest
>Television
n/a
>Comic books
Ghost World
>Anime
Millenium Actress
>Western cartoons
I Lost My Body
>Video games
Night in the Woods
>Webcomics
Octopus Pie

>>14345226
You're one of those people, huh?

>>14344936
>Fortress Besieged
Based Qian Zhongshu poster

>>14344986
>Video Games: Halo motherfucking 3
holy BASED

>>14345243

I find theatre and Television to be more distasteful, tbqh. Opera is really just better theatre and music is just that. Music.

>>14345282
The fuck you just say to me?

>>14345310
You're a disgusting Npaperfag

what if i post my favorite stuff and someone makes fun of me?

>>14345320
That's what happened to me. Don't do it anon. Not worth it.

>>14345243
comics are superior to opera

>>14345320
>>14345321
don't be so fucking fragile and insecure, for fuck's sake. there's people calling Frida Kahlo and GoT their favorite anything here lol who cares

>>14345322
H-Holy Based.

>>14345315
Just made a paper rocket that's just your size. Get inside and I'll light 'er up.

>>14345350
I guess this is considered a diss of sorts in the paperfag community? Not bad, son. I would be upset if I cared.

>no ballet

>ballet
gayane
romeo and juliet
les sylphides
spartacus

>poetry
ariel and other poems
hd collected poems
the whitsundays
collected poems wh auden
complete poems of anna akhmatova

>literature
moderato cantabile
the passion according to g.h.
dubliners
life: a user's manual
taipei people
red rose, white rose
the makioka sisters
the setting sun
dream of the red chamber
dead souls
pale fire

>paintings
surprise!
garden of earthly delights
bacchus and ariadne

>sculpture
la pieta
apoxyomenos

>music
daphnis and chloe
sibelius violin concerto
khachaturian rhapsody for cello
bookends
rite of spring
profokiev's sarcasms
pictures at an exhibition
ein heldenleben

>opera
wozzeck
lulu
der rosenkavalier
powder her face
cost fan tutte
salome

>cinema
dust in the wind
run lola run
centre stage/ruan ling-yu
tristana
pierrot le fou
platform
peppermint candy
la grande illusion

>theatre
malone dies
medea
teahouse
offending the audience
a doll's house

>anime
kiki's delivery service
perfect blue

>television
>comics
>cartoons
>videogames
>webcomics

>>14345378
>anime but no comics
PLEB

>>14345378
>perfect blue
That was fucking sterile garbage and the trailer was better.

>>14344815
Red dead redemption 2 is better than any literature produced this decade

>nobody replies to me

>no Wagner

>>14345400
haha and nice dubs, infinite.

>>14344815

What's the best number of choices?

>>14345359
People in paper houses shouldn't launch fireworks.

>>14345389
>>14345393
I've seen only five anime or thereabouts
and Perfect Blue is good commentary on the medium itself; I haven't seen Paprika

>>14344824
This unironically, but I like your prose to.

>>14345030
>Hellboy
based and hellpilled

>>14345116
I was going to call you based for Un chien andalou but then you added Tree of Life so I take it back.

>>14345398
Jerusalem blows RD2 out of the water

>>14345450
honestly i dont watch a lot of films besides classic surrealist stuff. tree of life is just the last decent thing i saw

>>14344936
>>14345030
>>14345116
>>14345208
>>14345217
>>14345378
You fuckers are unironically gay for not having a favorite webcomic. At least choose something entry level like Depressed cat in PREQUEL

>>14345250
>>14344986
You guys are fine.

>>14345475

>>14344824
Poetry can hold much more meaning than a novel. But you seem to share a different opinion, elaborate.

>>14345469
watch Holy Motors. it's recent and surreal and not dull.

>>14345495
>attempting to communicate with an animal
it's a waste of time Anon

>>14345475
I don't like webcomics because most of them are just glorified memes. I've seen some of them and went "I could've done this shit". I want art that makes me think the opposite of that.

>>14345425
>I've seen only five anime or thereabouts
I've only seen seven.

>and Perfect Blue is good commentary on the medium itself;
It's garbage dude.

>>14345528
You have to be in the mood, I guess.

>>14345528

>Perfect Blue is good commentary on the medium itself

I thought it was about pop stars, not anime.

>>14345116
Most pretentious one of all

>>14345528
It's good cuckboi.

>>14345542
rude

>>14345550
In all seriousness though, are those your actual favorites or are you tryharding?

>>14345554
yes those are my actual favourites.

>>14345542
anyone who includes opera is a pretentious cunt

no ones rose/illuminations
molloy
gustave moreau
praxitele
refn
sgp
texhnolyze
dks

>>14345602
this guy went fuck-you mode lol

>>14344824
Poetry is
Just literature
For retards.

>Poetry
-Der Walküre
-Tristan und Isolde
-Das Rheingold

>Literature
-The Wibelungen
-The Artwork of the Future
-Judaism in Music
-Religion and Art

>Painting
-'Brunhilde Knelt At His Feet' (1905)
-William Tell knocking over the boat

>Sculpture
-Wagner (Breker)
-Prometheus (Breker)
-Heros (Breker)
-Zeus and Ganymede (Breker)

>Music
-Tannhauser
-Tristan und Isolde
-Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
-Wesendonck-Lieder

>Opera
-Der Ring des Nibelungen
-Parsifal

>Theatre
-Faust
-Hamlet
-Oedipus Rex

>Cinema
It's a lower artform:
-Wagner(1983)

>>14345531
>You have to be in the mood, I guess.
It has no mood or greater impact upon life. Even within the reference of the modern arts, or aesthetic, it is lacking.

>>14345536
>I thought it was about pop stars, not anime.
It isn't about pop stars or anime one soon realises, but instead about a meaningless abstraction of entertainment in itself in attempt to characterise some vague human emotion of loneliness.

>>14345547
You're either an autist or mentally deficient. Nothing is to any effect within the film.

>>14345748

>It isn't about pop stars or anime one soon realises, but instead about a meaningless abstraction of entertainment in itself in attempt to characterise some vague human emotion of loneliness.

That's just exploring the main theme you fucking mook.

>Poetry
-Der Walküre
-Tristan und Isolde
-Das Rheingold

>Literature
-The Wibelungen
-The Artwork of the Future
-Judaism in Music
-Religion and Art

>Painting
-'Brunhilde Knelt At His Feet' (1905)
-William Tell knocking over the boat

>Sculpture
-Wagner (Breker)
-Prometheus (Breker)
-Heros (Breker)
-Zeus and Ganymede (Thorvaldsen)

>Music
-Tannhauser
-Tristan und Isolde
-Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
-Wesendonck-Lieder

>Opera
-Der Ring des Nibelungen
-Parsifal

>Theatre
-Faust
-Hamlet
-Oedipus Rex

>Cinema
It's a lower artform:
-Wagner(1983)

>>14345763
cringe

>>14345031
Enjoy

>>14345759
>That's just exploring the main theme you fucking mook.
No I'm saying the film was a failed attempt you illiterate.

>>14345773
Okay jew.

>>14345763
Hans easy on die Wurst.

Poetry: don’t know enough about it to have much of an opinion.
Literature: There’s too much that I have not read. My favorites thus far are known
Painting: So many to choose from. Lets says Alphonse Mucha, František Kupka, Max Ernst,
Sculpture: Antonio Canova, Michelangelo, don’t know enough
Music: Many many many. Just a list of genres would take up a lot space. Björk, Dead Can Dance, Debussy, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Moondog,
Theater/opera: Have seen very little of either
Cinema: the usual suspects. Kubrick, Welles, Hitchcock, Kurosawa, but also Varda, Henson, Miyazaki and Kon
Television: I don’t see it as a different medium from cinema. It’s smaller, interrupted with ads and often very low effort, but it’s capable of the same things cinema does.
Comic Books is manga. Anime is “western Cartoons”. Same medium, different styles.
Video Games: Haven’t played much of any of them (since the old Atari)
Webcomics: don’t follow any really. Kate Beaton

>>14345763
>Cinema
>It's a lower artform
Ha! It’s all in what one does with it

>>14345763
Isn't cinema a Gesamtkunstwerk? It combines all the art types. Even just filming an opera.

Just gonna do a few:
>Poetry (top 3)
W.B. Yeats ("The Lake Isle of Innisfree," "Sailing to Byzantium," "The Second Coming")
Robert Frost ("Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening," "Out-Out--," "After Apple Picking")
Lord Byron ("It Is the Hour," "She Walks in Beauty," "Darkness")
>Literature
Wallace--Infinite Jest
Joyce--Dubliners
Toole--A Confederacy of Dunces
>Painting
Rembrandt--The Night's Watch
Homer--The Gulf Stream
the Nielsen piece in pic related, the title of which I do not know
>Music (classical)
Grieg--Wedding Day at Troldhaugen (Orchestral)
Tchaikovsky--Marche
Mozart--Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
>Music (modern)
R.E.M.--Automatic for the People
American Football--American Football (LP1)
Radiohead--In Rainbows
>Cinema
Good Will Hunting
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Adventureland
>Theatre
Shakespeare--Hamlet
Beckett--Waiting for Godot
Fugard--"Master Harold" . . . and the boys
>Television
Mr. Robot (just started watching)
Black Mirror
>Comic Books
Berserk
>Anime
Death Note
Sword Art Online (Abridged)
>Western Cartoons
Gravity Falls
Regular Show
Rick and Morty
>Video Games
Baldur's Gate
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

This wound up far different from how I expected it to be when I started, but oh well.

>inb4 "le reddit"

>>14345908
TV might not be a different medium but it's a different form/format.

>>14345908
How can you write all that and still say nothing? Impressive. You could be a politician.

>>14345943
What kind of creature are you?

>>14345956
It’s late. I’m delirious, and forgot to list a bunch.... and include architecture, furniture and maybe clothing design

>>14346000
Might as well add cooking.

>>14346000
Do you collect butterflies btw? Like Nabokov?

>>14345503
Comical, someone with such a robust opinion but nothing to back it up.

>>14345827
Nein.

I SHALL BREATH.

>>14345908
>Ha! It’s all in what one does with it
Sure it has its on artistic forms in which it must strive towards, it does however never the works and types of traditional art. Read about Heidegger's differentiation between The-Work-of-Art and the Aesthetic, cinema as flawed representation, the innate schisms of cinema and the ease of cinemas natural fundamentality to the culture industry, the ease of its own abstraction as compensation for value and all that. And to make it all worse cinema has been birthed and developed in a time of creative void, art departed from all religiousness. Only a film confident but aware in its own limits could succeed, Barry Lyndon or The Count of Monte Cristo as example. As fantastic a film The Godfather may be, it can only be seen as a degeneration.

We must create a sort of anti-cinema movement.

>>14345941
HAH! No. At all times we achieve the heights of knowledge there is always followed by an eclipse of stupidity. Cinema can be seen as unique degeneration of this[Gesamtkunstwerk]. It has its place sure, but not treated as if it were of equal value. See Triumph of the Will. Cinema relies entirely on Wagner to lead it through its achievements. I remember someone saying that cinematography was that added factor which Wagner was looking for. What a fool he was who said that for he saw a limit of unique ability and thought it was no longer so.

Ask yourself this, why can Cinema not do Opera?

>>14346188
> Cinema can be seen as unique degeneration of this[Gesamtkunstwerk].
Why. If I setup a camera where a person sits and film an opera it's literally the same exact thing.
>Cinema relies entirely on Wagner to lead it through its achievements
what
>Ask yourself this, why can Cinema not do Opera?
It can?

webcomics are the highest art

>>14346198
>Why. If I setup a camera where a person sits and film an opera it's literally the same exact thing.
It literally isn't, you cannot depart the ceremonial experience from that room. Besides, if an Opera is designed as a film it necessarily becomes a film capitalising on the cinematographic technique. For the artistic height of opera to exist it must be designed as an opera regardless of film.

>what
Cinematography is the easiest thing to master.

>>14344936
my man manifold...

>>14346198
>>14346210
"How but in custom and in ceremony are innocence and beauty born?"

>>14346210
>if an Opera is designed as a film it necessarily becomes a film capitalising on the cinematographic technique.
Why is capitalizing on the cinematographic bad?
>For the artistic height of opera to exist it must be designed as an opera regardless of film.
Who said it isn't?
> you cannot depart the ceremonial experience from that room.
Sure but Cinema adds more pros than the cons.
>Cinematography is the easiest thing to master.
That definitely is true seeing how most directors have terrible cinematographer but even if it was why is that bad?

>>14346216
>Why is capitalizing on the cinematographic bad?
It ceases to be Opera, an inherently higher artform than cinema. Are you not aware of the limitations cinematography presents to a true religious ideal?

>Who said it isn't?
If it is designed to work the cinematic in, it assesses those limitations in its own form.

>Sure but Cinema adds more pros than the cons.
Incorrect.

>That definitely is true seeing how most directors have terrible cinematographer but even if it was why is that bad?
I am saying it is bad that it is given the focus it is today. A lower art. Which is why we must create as I said before, anti-cinema mindset.

>>14346235
>It ceases to be Opera, an inherently higher artform than cinema.
It's the same thing the only thing you lose in actually being in the room but you gain the ability to watch again and the limitations of being stuck to a small stage
> Are you not aware of the limitations cinematography presents to a true religious ideal?
lol
>If it is designed to work the cinematic in, it assesses those limitations in its own form.
what
>Incorrect.
Correct
>I am saying it is bad that it is given the focus it is today. A lower art. Which is why we must create as I said before, anti-cinema mindset.
But it's the same thing but better? You haven't told me any actual negatives?

>>14346239
>It's the same thing the only thing you lose in actually being in the room but you gain the ability to watch again and the limitations of being stuck to a small stage
The is in the Opera itself, if you are minusing that value in anyway than you are not plusing the value. You may make it easier to see the Opera, but you aren't making the Opera better. One of the major problems of modern music is that it has lost all ceremonial value, something that has always been with it. Another thing to add is the question of what the film will do with the Opera. Will it adapt it or merely film it from seat view? An important question.

>lol
Religious does not necessarily mean Religion but yeah it was pretty funnyin hindsight.

>what
Meaning it ceases to be "wholly" an Opera.

>Correct
Incorrect, as proven above. Wait- were you agreeing with me?

>But it's the same thing but better? You haven't told me any actual negatives?
I need not cast pearls before swine(*joke*, see above).

>>14344815
Video games has potential to become the most powerful artistic medium in history and if you disagree you have a low iq and zero creativity. The medium only accepts those who do not need guidance to create something valuable out of nothing

>>14346318
>You may make it easier to see the Opera, but you aren't making the Opera better.
One goal of many of the artists was to make the opera as realistic as possible by utilizing technology to make the experience more real. Cinema takes to another level in a way Wagner wish he could of did.
>Will it adapt it or merely film it from seat view?
Both are done.
>Meaning it ceases to be "wholly" an Opera.
How if I'm filming the same thing you see if you sit there?

>>14344994
t.fool with no vision

>>14346340
>One goal of many of the artists was to make the opera as realistic as possible by utilizing technology to make the experience more real.
Not in the way that you are thinking of it as the literal real. The ideal effigy is not always the literal representation.

>Cinema takes to another level in a way Wagner wish he could of did.
Bigbrain.

>Both are done.
Yes I know but it makes a difference which. Just watching a pure recording can be fine even if it does lose its ceremonial value however an adaptation radically changes the Opera. This may only be because it is not the original musician who is directing the film and so as a result will only bluster the job. But I am almost entirely certain it is on the part of the inherent limitations of cinema. Cinematography may be useful in creating an aesthetic, but it cannot provide the interior value and content of a work. However because the masses are easily amused this cinematography only has to over use itself, or over abstract, and this compensates for the lack of true value leaving entertainment etc etc and hence bad films of today as the focus. Not to mention it trains the mass to consume and there become trained accustomed to this and wanting more. And before you say "is this tool of aesthetic not useful?" I say that this is where the limitations of cinematography one should become aware of. It would only hold down Opera.

>How if I'm filming the same thing you see if you sit there?
You're beyond hope anon, I've explained this.

Film is bound to creating an aesthetic and not a work of art.

>>14346334
>>14346343
>

>>14346334
>thinks video games can be art
Teenager confirmed. It can create an aesthetic image at best.

I understand that there is a greater artistic potential in games that is not being expressed but it can never be art. You'll grow out of this into true art soon. I used to be like you for a short period as a teen, I still appreciated higher art and thought I understood it, but never wholly did until I grew out of things like games and TES Lore. You're probably the same.

>>14346398
Why do you think stage design is superior to cinematography? Isn't that kinda the same thing. Most opera directors have insanely disgusting modern set design anyways so it's kinda null.

>>14346429
The only reason Video Games are not considered art is because of user interaction but that seems like a kinda weak argument no?

>>14346432
>but that seems like a kinda weak argument no?
I never made it.

>>14346435
What's your argument then?

>>14346431
>Isn't that kinda the same thing.
Bruh.

>Most opera directors have insanely disgusting modern set design anyways so it's kinda null.
Some do but not all.

>>14346437
>It can create an aesthetic image at best.

>>14346438
>Bruh.
I mean it is? Both cinema and opera have set designers.
>Some do but not all.
The only good set design I've seen is Otto Schenk . All of the ones in our times are terrible.

>>14344936
Yikes!

>>14344936
Imagine having a firm opinion about everything. Complete pseud.

>>14346438
>Bruh.

>>14344994
>new things can't be art! Sure they have designers, storyboarders, designers, coders, all working towards a collective story but that doesn't make it art!
Go back to your homework child.

>>14345167
This is the only based post in this filthy thread of pseuds.

>>14346429
>u young it's not art cuz I say it not
>Grow into true art
I went to art school and supported myself in the fine art industry with painting for a few years. My house looks like a hoarder's with access to museum prints. I dropped the painting shit real quick and started 3d modeling when I realized it's a dead medium that has zero cultural relevance and is held up by the accomplishments of the past.
Video games in their inherent form disconnected from semantic bullshit and observed for it's potential away from psued copouts like referring to previous works as evidence requires every skill and can express every artistic impulse found in other mediums and then some. Only the truly great can wrangle it into "art". It spits out the frauds who's work cannot stand alone. You need your cope tradition rituals for your outdated larp to be valued by others. Its shit in a vacuum and any further contribution only deteriorates the original achievements that gives your slop a second thought. All of your heros would be laughing at you and fucking around in unreal and enslaving nerd programmers

>>14346441
An aesthetic image is not art?

>>14346444
>I mean it is? Both cinema and opera have set designers.
>therefore the set designingmust be the same
Bruh. Besides, Wagner was his own set designer and choreographer.

>>14346455
>relying on one word of expression than the content of their statement on a whole to judge someones argument

>>14346476
>this entire post
Lol sure. Wait until you're 16 to post about art again.

>>14346480
Not necessarily in this distinction no.

>>14346509
Site is anonymous, nobody gives a fuck about your stated opinion and nothing else. Kys

>>14346504
>Bruh. Besides, Wagner was his own set designer and choreographer.
So it's an art form that can only exist in the time of the composer?

>>14346522
>Site is anonymous, nobody gives a fuck about your stated opinion and nothing else. Kys
Do you suffer from mental retardation by any chance? Or just a hurt ego?

Ask your question and I will answer it.

>>14346541
>So it's an art form that can only exist in the time of the composer?
No that's not what I said. I stated that as a side point on Wagner, my main point was that there is a difference between Opera and Fil stage design. Anon pls stop making me spoonfeed you the answer.

>>14346509
>Has literally nothing to say
Ok anon

>>14346522
>>14346594
>Ask your question and I will answer it.
Or let me put it this way since tradition has authority, why is 3d modelling an art? I expect you to pick some common critiques and fend those off, to be sure you have some self awareness in what you say.

>>14346608
That's because I've said all that is necessary for an intelligent mind to understand.

>>14344815
None, what's best is the art of conversation anon :^)

>>14346619
>it's not art because it's not art
Wow such intelligence

>>14346613
Is it a craft, decoration, applied art, or science?
Yes at it's basic form like literally every medium that exists. The written word can be used for bank statements and literature. Paint can be used on canvas and to decorate your dresser. Film can be used to make employee orientation videos and barry lyndon. 3d modeling can be used for making furniture in architectural renderings and as unlimited sculptural expression alone. In video games it becomes one of many necessary skills to bring your vision into reality. It requires creativity and can have an authorial intent. It can be created for it's own sake. It can carry abstraction. It is nothing without the touch of the human genius. Because it's expression does not fit into your preconceived formulation and cultural memes on ""art"" on top of your low iq this is confusing for you. You are facing directly a challenge with no reference to refer to up ahead and it's displaying your inadequacy.

>>14346742
>Wow such intelligence
No, you're just lacking in intelligence.

>>14346793
No it is your own self that struggles to see the flaws in 3d modelling. However let us clarify what we're talking about as we're talking of two different things.

1. video games

2. 3d modelling

One encompasses the other but they're not the same. Video games are an activity, the interactivity stops it from being an art. 3d modelling just doesn't have the same potential as physically concrete art. It cannot detailas much, we must also remember that it does not physically exist with all the importance of that, and what're ya gonna do 3d print it? Would somehow make it uglier than it already is. Show me one example of good 3d art, it's cartoonish and we know the brain unconsciously recognises stuff like cgi as fake.

>>14344815
Poetry: Arnaut Daniel
Novels: James Joyce
Theater: Pierre Corneille
Music: W. A. Mozart
Painting: Paolo Uccello
Cinema: Michael Snow

>>14346834
You're in way too late bucko. Just me and some edgy teen arguing about video games in art.

>>14344936
>Nixon In China
I am most proud to welcome you

>>14346830
>One encompasses the other but they're not the same.

Literally what I already said
>Video games are an activity, the interactivity stops it from being an art.

So my initial assessment is correct, you are a low iq psued with zero vision and inability to tread tread new grounds. You cannot visualize what hasn't been done and without previous cultural accomplishments to suck off of like a parasite you are nothing. Of course you have that opinion
>3d modelling just doesn't have the same potential as physically concrete art.

And why is that? Let me guess you have nothing else to support this claim with?
>It cannot detailas much, we must also remember that it does not physically exist with all the importance of that, and what're ya gonna do 3d print it?

It has just as much "detail" as anything else and since when and why would physicality be a predeterminer for art? Do you know how retarded you sound? Is a picture painted digitally suddenly not art because you can't hold it? Music is only art if played in person?
>Show me one example of good 3d art, it's cartoonish and we know the brain unconsciously recognises stuff like cgi as fake.

Holy shit lmao. Anything can be sculpted on a computer. Literally anything. Every single physical creation in human history can be done on maya or blender on top of the limitless possibilities it offers. It trancends physical laws. Please kys

Everyone who has played a video game ITT. Kill yourselves.

>>14344936
great taste in vidya

>Literature
Bulgakov
Carlos Castenada(interpreted as semi-fiction)
>Painting
Dali
That Ukrainian XIXc. painter I can't remember the name of
>music
The residents
Death grips
Aphex twin
>Cinema
Jodorowski
>television
West world
Twin peaks
>videogames
Pathologic 1 and 2
Battlefield 1942
Whoever calls me a pleb may or may not be right

>Literature
Bulgakov
Carlos Castaneda(interpreted as semi-fiction)
>Painting
Dali
That Ukrainian XIXc. painter I can't remember the name of
>music
The residents
Death grips
Aphex twin
>Cinema
Jodorowski
>television
West world
Twin peaks
>videogames
Pathologic 1 and 2
Battlefield 1942
Whoever calls me a pleb may or may not be right

>>14344890
this, op is a brainlet

>>14347160
Not him but vidya isnt and wont be art.

1. No clear author/auteur of the piece. Mass produced like a product for consumption.
2. Interarctivity kills the artist's unique vision. Modding sends it directly to the grave. Are desktop programs and apps an art? No and no one's arguing that.
3. Too much money involved. Can't create something pure. Produced to make as much money as possible, like McDonalds or Gatorade or any other consumerist item.

Vidya making is a craft at best, done for consumer entertainment and maximum profit.

>>14344815
Cinema = literary = music > painting > opera > theater > sculpture > western cartoon > anime > videogames > comic books > webcomics > poetry

>>14348710
Theater is better than opera and poetry is on the same level as literature.

>>14344936
>Podcast (the highest art form)
Cumtown
>Poetry
Duino Elegies, though I haven't read much poetry
>Novel
Gravity's Rainbow
>plays
The Glass Menagerie, Hamlet
>Painting
painting I found in my friends house that the previous tenant had left there
>Sculpture
I'm an uncultured philistine
>Music
Unwound - Fake Train
Stabscotch - Uncanny Valley
Died - anonymized internal criminals
Animal Collective - STGSTV
Lil Ugly Mane - Mista Thug Isolation
>Opera
Uncultured
>cinema
Her
>television
not sure
>Comic books
Not a nerd
>anime
Angel's Egg
>anime shows
Serial Experiments Lain, welcome to the NHK
>Western cartoons
family guy funny moments
>Video games
Bioshock, Fallout New Vegas

>>14348751
Music is a higher level of art than constant dialog and asides especially fueds with more than 2 parts. It is simply on a technical level superior. Poetry is generally terrible as as much subtext or tip of the iceburg there is attempted to add, it simply isn't that impressive or go as deep especially on an emotional level than instrumental music is capable of. A jazz track like Down Here on the Ground evokes more emotion in me than any poetry I have ever read. I'm not including epic poems as they are narratives. I also find rhyming to be wildly embarassing to read or hear probably because it reminds me of Dr. Suess and comes of as childish. I generally only like translations of poetry for this reason.

>>14344815
Anime > Video Games > Literature > Webcomics > Cinema > Painting > Music > Western Cartoons > Comic Books > Sculpture > Theater > Television > Opera > Poetry

>>14348845
What a shit taste. You are fucked in the head.

>>14345028
that's even worse

>>14344815
>poetry
lol
>literature
Brothers Karamazov
>sculpture
lol
>Music
the art of fugue
>Opera
lol
>cinema
Andrei Rublev
>theater
?
>television
?
>comic books
?
>anime
mushishi
>western cartoons
lol
>video games
lol
>webcomics
lol

>>14349170
Minors aren't allowed here.

>>14345763
>Der Walküre

is it that hard to just google it and avoid mistakes like that?

>>14349174
where to find minors that listen to the art of fugue?

>Poetry
Don't care.
>Literature
I guess Tractatus.
>Painting
Don't have one.
>Sculpture
Don't have one. Though, I think Rodin's work is probably my favorite to look at.
>Music
Don't have a favorite. My taste changes all the time.
>Opera
Don't care.
>Cinema
Goodfellas, I guess.
>Theater
Don't care.
>Television
Seinfeld
>Comic books
Don't care.
>Anime
Don't care.
>Western Cartoons
Prime Simpsons.
>Video Games
GTA:SA
>Webcomics
Don't care.

>>14349188
Russia

>>14344936
Behold, the consoomer

>>14349150
Based inarticulate in both music and words anon

You probably focus more on lyrics than music and can't even read it. The sad thing is despite this you cant even verbally defend your nursery rhymes.

Poetry: Ulysses by Tennyson purely for nostalgic reasons
Literature: A Tale of Two Cities purely for nostalgic reasons
Painting: Chagall or Repin, both purely for nostalgic reasons
Music: Tchaikovsky's violin concerto, purely for nostalgic reasons
Opera: Die Walkure purely for nostalgic reasons
Cinema: Schindler's List, purely for nostalgic reasons
Television: Mad Men is my favorite show
Comics: Don't read capeshit, graphic novels probably Maus though but purely for nostalgic reasons
Anime: Kiki's Delivery Service purely for nostalgic reasons
Western cartoons: 90s Simpsons purely for nostalgic reasons
Video games: Earthbound for purely nostalgic reasons

Of course throughout all of these categories I can identify several works that are of greater artistic merit and thematic depth than my favorites. And, in fact, I would be more inclined to consume those works than what I have listed above. But there is something sacred about the media and art that profoundly affects one in their formative years. I never wanted to grow up, man

>>14349360
I kinda agreed on the music part. Utterly disagreed on the poetry part.

>>14346429
> It can create an aesthetic image at best.
legitimately false, if you hold up TES as your game of choice, it makes sense that would you think this though.
>>14346476
based

>>14349430
I find short fiction to contain far more interpretations and subtext than poetry. Generally there just isnt that many ways to interpret poetry. And I find rhyming to be absolutely unbearable.

>>14345030
this is the literature board

>>14349475
>And I find rhyming to be absolutely unbearable
Like I said, shit taste. Rhyme is patrician.

>>14349540
It's detestable. It is the most embarassing thing in poetry. I can accept half rhyme because it isn't as repetative. But full rhyme, gross. You see the same cliche words constantly.

>>14349585
This is why bugmen are not going to make it and that's a good thing.

>>14349531

I know, but I was only mainly working on a few mediums at first because I didn't have enough for the rest.

I said I'll skip TV and Theater because they're really lesser versions of Movies and Opera. For Music, I could care less, but Black Metal and Aphex Twin help a bit I suppose.

All in all, I'm not really sure how much to reduce. Most of the cartoons just seemed forced (save for South Park and Fantastic Planet).

>>14345116
>scriabinfag posts on /lit/
Go back to your hole. I will not have you pretending that music composed after 1827 is worth listening to on my literature board.

>>14345378

Can you say more about Dream of The Res Chamber

>>14344815
The Elixir by George Herbert
Parzival by Wolfram von Eschenbach
Madonna of the Pomegranate by Botticelli
pass
St. John's Passion by Bach
L'Orfeo by Monteverdi
pass
King Lear by Shakespeare
pass
pass
Ping Pong the Animation
pass
pass
pass

>>14344815
i'm just listing my favourites. i dont claim to now anywhere near enough to list the best of each medium

>poetry
i dont read enough poetry, sadly
>literature (this is just some of my favs recently idk)
the bible
catcher in the rye
the crying of lot 49
jane eyre
>painting
monet - houses of parliament
michelangelo - cistine chapel ceiling
>sculpture
idk probably David
>Music
Tchaikovsky's 5th
mbv - loveless
the beatles - rubber soul
gregorian chant
>opera
la traviata
candide
>cinema
i dont really watch movies
>theatre
hmm idk
>television
the wire
mr robot is pretty solid
>comics
BONE
>anime
FLCL
Evangelion
>Western Cartoons
avatar the last airbender desu
>video games
i refuse to accept any answer besides Hollow Knight. this game is fucking art. it's my favourite video game of all time. that said the binding of isaac is dope. and in the realm of non-indie games... half life? i dont play too many tripleA titles
>webcomics
idk. homestuck was funny in the early early days.

>>14344936
lotta good takes. a few really weird takes.
>>14345116
based et rougepilled
>>14345943
cringe. holy cringe

>>14344815
Thank you for outting this board as a bunch of drivelling idiots.

>>14344815
poetry: beowulf
lit: i dont read
painting: the one w lisa
scluptur:e raping persopine
music: them niggas that talk like they got a dick in they mouth and have tats all over they face
rape:o
crimea: war
threat: aint dat the same shit as crima
television: in living color
comic: the rise of hitler
anime: dragon ball z
western cartoon: pokémon
video game: FIFA
webcomics: ctrlaltdel

>>14345622
okay rupi

>>14345773
in what way is he cringe? he was very influential

>>14346334
True, the potential to interact with the story is a great thing. Especially more freeform games.

>>14344815
>Poetry
The Divine Comedy

>Literature
The Man Without Qualities

>Painting
Sistine Chapel Ceiling

>Music
Morton Feldman's For Philip Guston

>Cinema
Satantango

>Television
Manuel on the Island of Wonders

>Comics
Children of the Sea

>Animation
Angel's Egg

>Video Games
Pathologic

>>14346334
The most artistic part about video games is the coding. The rest is ornament

>>14344824
Non-Poetry Literature is just Literature for casuals.

>>14346830
>the interactivity stops it from being an art.

Interactivity is inherent in all art numbnuts

>>14350233
Coding is just production. A craft, at best.

t. Coder.

>>14348702
Unique vision and purity are Romanitic memes and nothing to do with the thousands of years of art practice

>>14350256
Not in the way videogames use it.

>>14348845
>Technicality means good art

No. Music can never justify its own medium as good art by itself, it always has to rely on exterior literature like 'technicality = good' for it to be some sort of representation therefor art.

>>14350271
So?

>>14350265
I never said unique and pure. I meant a personal vision from a creator. Among the other things I mentioned.

>>14350259
Coding is a metaphysics which is a requirement for all art. It cannot be a representation thus no 'meaning' without metaphysics

>>14350286
So therefore, not an art.

>>14350288
You literally used the words 'unique' and 'pure'

Personal vision is irrele

>>14350293
You're overthinking this big time.

>>14350295
How's that?

>>14350301
>what is context

>>14350310
Board games are not art. Software developing is not art. Therefore, video games are not art.

>>14350304
Nope, you've just been taught the wrong things

>>14350301
>Personal vision is irrele
In a craft? Yes. In an art? No.

>>14350315
I'm still alluding to the same context idiot. The point is uniqueness, vision, purity, etc. is not relevant to art discussion outside of historical discussion of art 1800-1950

>>14350323
Maybe, but in this case I'm right since video games are not art. Coding also went into Windows Vista, Facebook or VLC. Are they art? Not at all.

>>14350321
Marble is not art, chisel is not art, dumb argument

Nothing to do with interactivity

>>14350327
Yes there's nothing inherent to art requiring personal vision. Art is only meaningful in a network of codes and conventions that do not come from a single person

>>14350334
Bugman "art" is not really art.

>>14350340
I'm mentioning crafts, products and media. You're mentioning materials. False equivalence, retard.

>>14350338
Why are they not art?

>>14350345
Symphonies are written by a musician. Blue prints are done by an architect. So, you're wrong. Personal vision is essential to art.

>>14350353
Board games don't factor into an argument about video games and software developing is required for video games thus functions as a 'material'.

The point is, which you keep avoiding (for some reason), that you cannot make an argument about why certain degrees of interactivity disqualify something from being art.

>>14350370
Paintings and sculptures were made in workshops up until the Romantic period by nameless apprentices and journeymen, etc. Did they not produce art?

>>14350355
They're solluess consumption products. Is a Maxi pad a masterpiece? Is Mountain Dew a wonderful art piece? No and neither is software. They're a craft at best and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>14350384
Soul has nothing to do with art and conflating soullessness with consumption is a pointless value from your own personal metaphysics and outside the scope of discussion

Maxi pads and Mtn Dew do not have anything to do with metaphysics as coding does.

>>14350391
You take things way too literal and I'm most likely arguing with a bugman mentality so I'm going to call it a day. Facebook isn't an art piece, ffs.

>>14350371
Bord games + software = video game. It's not an art.

>>14350403
You have not studied art so you do not understand it, you do a great injustice to it and its history by only thinking about it in terms of memes or whatever you've just happened to come across in your day-to-day consumerist bugman experience. Art isn't just whatever you fancy unfortunately

>>14350417
You only expose your limited capacity to think with this equation

>The point is, which you keep avoiding (for some reason), that you cannot make an argument about why certain degrees of interactivity disqualify something from being art.

>>14350431
You should tale your own advice, HAMPARTIST.

>>14350280
I believe a higher skill floor denotes higher art cap. Opera is written in two languages simultaneously. Any rube could write a play.

>>14344815
>poetry
Jabberwocky - Lewis Carrol
>literature
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
>painting
literally every japanese woodblock print

Because you're an absolute fucking brainlet, im gonna have to rearrange this tier:
Theatre > Cinema > Television > Music > Anime > Comic books > Western Cartoons > Video Games > Opera > Sculpture > Webcomics

>theatre
A Streetcar Named Desire - Tennessee Williams
>cinema
Blade Runner - Ridley Scott
>television
True Detective Season 1 (haven't seen the others yet) - Cary Joji Fukunaga
>music
Out of Touch - Hall and Oates
>anime (show)
My Hero Academia
>anime (film)
Paprika - Satoshi Kon
>comic books
Sandman - Neil Gaiman
>western cartoons (show)
Rick and Morty
>western cartoons (film)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse
>video games
Darkest Dungeon - Red Hook Studios
>opera
haven't seen any
>sculpture
don't care
>webcomics
Oglaf

that wagnerfag is so cringe holy shit

>>14344824
Another brilliant poem!

>>14350601
oh this nigga really put darkest dungeon and rick and morty on his shit, bro i know for a fact you would like me but i despise you already

>Poetry
Faust

>Literature
Moby Dick

>Painting
Don't care

>Sculpture
Don't care

>Music
Don't care

>Theater
Don't care

>Television
Don't care

>Comic Books
Don't care

>Anime
Made in Abyss

>Western Cartoons
Don't care

>Video Games
Dark Souls

>Webcomics
Homestuck

These are works of unrivaled passion, intellectual insight and mastery of the medium (visual design in MiA's case).
If anybody with good (read: the same) taste has recs for the empty categories let me know

>>14351446
>one other mention of faust and its a joke
Nevermind you're all retarded

>>14344815
1, 2, 4, 3, 6, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 12, 10, 9.

>>14349184
No

>>14349360
Not him but imagery in lyrics has always moved me tremendously, regardless of meter and rhyming

>>14349756
out of all the avant-garde stuff i enjoy you single out scriabin. retard.

>>14350034
thanks for calling me based. unfortunately your taste is extremely basic.

>>14344815
manga > vns > anime > jrpgs > lns > javs > jpop > doramas > gaijin shit

>Poetry
A Season in Hell
>Literature
The Book of Disquiet
>Painting
No. 61 (Rust and Blue) by Mark Rothko
>Sculpture
Balanced - Unbalanced T by Fletcher Benton
>Music
Morton Feldman - String Quartet No. 2
>Cinema
Sátántangó (1994)
>Comic Books
Nijigahara Holograph
>Anime
Texhnolyze
>Video Games
Deus Ex (2000)