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I've just read a book about Hegel being a hermetic mystic, and another where he is the anti-religious Jacobin heir to the Enlightenment. I'm now interested in how Hegel has been interpreted rather than any given interpretation. What book provides a thorough overview of the reception of Hegel over the last 150 years WITHOUT advancing the author's own interpretation?

>> No.14351114

>>14351081
> hermetic mystic
correct
> anti-religious Jacobin heir to the Enlightenment
wrong

>> No.14351132

>>14351081
Thesis: Mystic
Antithesis: Atheist
Synthesis: Religious

>> No.14351162

>>14351132
What religion? Certainly not Christian, or any 'theological' religion, since Hegel explicitly says theology obscures Spirit's recognition of itself in thought by externalizing it in God and vague mystery.

>> No.14351295

>>14351081
He is very big in neocon circles and think tanks. Ironic considering Marxian dialectics are entirely absent from left wing equivalents.

>> No.14351306

>>14351295
got any books/articles on this?

>> No.14351465

He was an atheist but didnt want to spell it outright in his philosophy

>> No.14351477

He was a christian theosophist

>> No.14351643

>>14351114
wrong
>>14351132
no
>>14351162
Absolute idealism, Christianity was the closest thing to communitarian absolute spirit for hegel
>>14351295
Makes sense, left wingers really obfuscated him in the first place, he was always leaning more toward the right
>>14351465
No
>>14351477
kind of correct

Hegel was the synthesis of Rationalism and Empircism, Newton meets Leibniz, Descartes meet Hume. The centeral tenet of his philosphy was the realization that being and thought is one because being is thought. ie whatever is rational is real

>> No.14351659

>>14351643
https://philipstanfield.com/2014/09/22/hegel-mystic/

>> No.14352308

>>14351643
we literally have evidence of him studying the occult and hermetica. do you really think an atheist would do that?

>> No.14352316

>>14351081
Hegel was a Hermetic/Neoplatonist/Gnosticist.

>> No.14352324

>>14352308
An agnostic might

>> No.14352456

>>14352324
Or, "a" gnostic, might

>> No.14352612

>>14351643
wow guys, the hegel experts here have no fear

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>> No.14353969

>>14351643
>whatever is rational is real
Incoherent nonsense.

>> No.14354504

>>14351081
Hegel explicitly attacks hermetic mysticism in the very preface to The Phenomenology of Spirit

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>>14354504
Yes, reading such disparate (and quite easily contradicted, yet influential) takes has simply made me interested in a broad, but relatively detailed account of all the variety of ways in which Hegel has been interpreted over the years. I think that's the only interesting thing about Hegel to me at this point (besides Hegel's own work.)

>> No.14356571

>>14352308
a non-materialistic atheistic could read that, i´m a prime example

>> No.14356761

Malabou, Zizek, Comay, Badiou, Lacan, Kojeve, and Hyppolite are the main continental Hegelians. Possibly Negarestani too.

Harris Hegel's Ladder is one of the best secondary works in English bar none.

Houlgate and Beiser take a balanced historical look.

Inwood and Pinkard have their biases but you should know them when reading their translations.

Pippin is good but I don't know if I trust him for some reason...

Brandom just released a tome on PoS which promises interest.

Magee is a hack but fun.

Left Hegelians are lame -- get the Marx-Engels Reader I guess...

You could also try looking up right hegelians and british / american pre-analytic hegelians / neohegelians
Enjoy!

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>>14356761
>Malabou, Zizek, Comay, Badiou, Lacan, Kojeve, and Hyppolite are the main continental Hegelians. Possibly Negarestani too.

>> No.14356835

>>14356827
Kojeve is incredibly based. Just look at >>14355152 the man looks like a pimp.

>> No.14356863

>>14356835
he's a Stalinist who helped found the EU and a possible Soviet spy who hugely influenced postmodernism. He's an important character in the intersection of philosophy and world history, but I wouldn't call him "based".

>> No.14356881

>>14356863
I just like Hegel bro -- his lecture series is great

Also solovyov is interesting af too

If anything such world historical individuals should be studied especially if enemies...

>> No.14356891

>>14356761
Based and actually educated

>>14356827
The kind of guy that ruins /lit/ using easy low blows

>> No.14357187

>>14356761
Pirmin Stekeler-Weithofer is where it's at

>> No.14357247

>>14356761
Do you know of any good works comparing Hegel to eastern philosophy or any eastern philosophers who have the same conception of dialectics as him, O based Hegelposter?

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>>14351132
Underrated

>> No.14357428

Just read Herder bro

>> No.14357443

>>14351081
Hegel is one of the four horsemen of pseudo-intellectualism.

>> No.14357492

>>14357443
Who are your pick for the four horsemen of true intellectualism?

>> No.14357506

>>14357492
None. It takes breadth and depth. But most continental philosophy is total edgelord late teen memery.

>> No.14357592

>>14357247
Kitaro Nishida

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>>14357506
Go back to the manlet pit analytic.

>> No.14357949

>>14357651
Never said analytic philosophy was better. It’s mostly empty. But it’s vacuity is preferable to the crypto-millenarianism of continental.

>> No.14357965

>>14357949
Back to the pit

>> No.14358083

>>14356761
Thanks anon. Beiser's After Hegel is a perfect place to start.