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Is Alex J. O'Connor possibly the brightest young philosopher we have had this century? I am eager to see what his thought will have to offer us in the next twenty or so years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcVR2OVxPYw

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Even Douglas Murray acknowledges his stature as an intellectual. That's more than can be said about most people posting on this forum.

>> No.14368473

>>14368450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnRYRYXSd_E

>> No.14368488

>>14368450
He bought that t-shirt. Like went out to find it, and chose it among countless others. Then he posed in it, exposing delicate milky white arms turned red and raw by the mere touch of a passing breeze, but nonetheless defiant of the onslaught, like an serious young Englishman in front a phonebox. He's obviously a genius.

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>>14368450
Fuck vegan fags. Weak little faggots shall NOT inherit the earth. I can't wait for the pendulum to swing the other way, for the cult of weakness to be crushed by Nietzschean ubermensch. Every s(o)yboy will gargle the cock of the techno-warrior class that will emerge. I want to slap that limp wristed faggot in your pic like I would a crying woman. Fucking pussy. Go eat bamboo and grass like a fucking animal. Ill rape and eat you like an animal if you want to act like one. Cunt.

>> No.14368507

>>14368450
Go to bed Alex

>> No.14368509

>>14368450
Don’t let me shit myself

>> No.14368513

>>14368450
>I am eager to see what his thought will have to offer us in the next twenty or so years.
He will convert to Islam after Prophet Isa (pbuh) comes. Screencap my words.

>> No.14368517

Why are all contemporary philosophers complete slaves? Petter Singer is as much of a retard as this guy. These people just articulate why we should feel guilty, and conveniently agree with large corporations and the diversity industry.

>> No.14368525

>>14368488
i think he designed that shirt himself, it has his twitter handle on it.

>> No.14368531

>>14368525
Holy shit! His philosophy extends into the Praxis of philosophical and, it goes without saying, fine art aesthetics? I was right, he is a genius!

>> No.14368532

>>14368494
Based. Keep your strength in these weak times.

>> No.14368538

>>14368473
i'm catholic but i can't watch this cringe. youtube was a fucking mistake

>> No.14368545

>>14368450
Your videos are trash you virgin basedboy pseud

>> No.14368551

>>14368450
>veganism is the worst moral emergency we face
>lol definitely not abortion or anything like that, stop eating meat!

>> No.14368555

>>14368551
>eat bugs

>> No.14368556

>>14368538
why do you think it is cringe?

>> No.14368576

>>14368556
>aquinas with 2015 dank meme sunglasses
>having an avatar on youtube like a skeptic in the first place

>> No.14368578

>>14368450
Do you think he knows that every female sees him as nothing more than a weakling who roleplays as an "intelligent" "philosopher" to seem at least somewhat "masculine"?

>> No.14368598

>>14368450
what's this Britfag's endgame?

>> No.14368602

>>14368598
Like all Anglos, to lead us astray straight to the deceiver.

>> No.14368627
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>>14368602
no, for real. What does he defend. He has no Wikipedia page, and I've seen he has 2 very different videos: one about veganism by the Israeli Atheist Association, and another about some saint published by "Classical Theist". This is my face rn

>> No.14368638

>>14368627
he is a hardcore atheist fag

>> No.14368641

>>14368602
this. one must wonder what the anglos did to become so acursed

>> No.14368646

>>14368627
He calls himself a "determinist" and thinks all people are "equal". So in short, he defends his masters and their plan to send as many young people into the Fire as possible.

>> No.14368649

>>14368638
Thx. I see he has a YT channel with +300K subs. The name is pretty memeable: CosmicSkeptic. Kek

>> No.14368651

>>14368450
Okay /lit/ - I’m his age and go to as equally prestigious university. I can make better content than him. What should be the format? Me talking into a Camera (I’m good looking) or just use a montage as I narrate?

>> No.14368668

>>14368651
What would the content be about?

>> No.14368671

>>14368651
you talking into he camera, some short montages, not too many

>> No.14368673

>>14368651
The format should be written language in the form of a book that you write. Youtube is for fucking attention whore pseud faggots who want to suck corporate cock in exchange for patreon money.

>> No.14368681

>TheCosmicSkeptic
why do these groups feel the need to adapt a br*ny/sonic fandom naming scheme?

>> No.14368684

>>14368673
I think anon wants to become popular, not be read by a dozen of scholars from time to time. Ever wondered how Jordan Peterson got so famous?
>inb4 Jordn Jewperson is a meme¡¡
I am talking about fame, not about wether he's either bad or good.

>> No.14368686

>In which /lit/ gets their shit twisted over an eceleb in a Discworld t-shirt.
Calm down.

>> No.14368689

>>14368450
It's weird seeing New Atheism reignited with this group of English kids – it seemed like it was going to be buried.

Maybe it will remain a relic with them having a fossilized Youtube niche. But if it really comes back, I hope this round is more thoughtful and sincere. Even this Alex kid already strikes me as a cut above Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. – he wouldn't dare admit it because they're his idols, but he had an interview with Dawkins and it was clear to me that Alex was the brighter, more in-touch one of the two. He also interviewed Michael Shermer and seemed to have genuine existential concerns that Shermer couldn't really process. If he stays open-minded and is willing to learn, I think he could take Western atheism out of its crusty adolescent phase and do something actually interesting with it. The "Old New Atheists" are retards, and have been spinning their wheels since at least 2010. These guys need to avoid that trap.

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His video with Dawkins was quite enlightening to my now rational mind. Helped me outgrow my childish and idiotic faith in a sky daddy and see that there is indeed no creator deity.
https://youtu.be/tsLEf1Uwb5o

>> No.14368709

>>14368689
>I think he could take Western atheism out of its crusty adolescent phase and do something actually interesting with it.
omg! so much this! surely he can use the ultimate truth of Progress to advance Western atheism out of its undeservedly pathetic state!

>> No.14368723

>>14368684
I'm fully aware that all he wants is fame and attention. That's why he's a posturing faggot and should neck himself. When did /lit/ turn into /eceleb/?

>> No.14368724

>>14368703
Go to bed, Alex.

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>>14368689
>It's weird seeing New Atheism reignited with this group of English kids – it seemed like it was going to be buried.

>Maybe it will remain a relic with them having a fossilized Youtube niche. But if it really comes back, I hope this round is more thoughtful and sincere. Even this Alex kid already strikes me as a cut above Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. – he wouldn't dare admit it because they're his idols, but he had an interview with Dawkins and it was clear to me that Alex was the brighter, more in-touch one of the two. He also interviewed Michael Shermer and seemed to have genuine existential concerns that Shermer couldn't really process. If he stays open-minded and is willing to learn, I think he could take Western atheism out of its crusty adolescent phase and do something actually interesting with it. The "Old New Atheists" are retards, and have been spinning their wheels since at least 2010. These guys need to avoid that trap.

>> No.14368737

>>14368709
Its pathetic state is deserved. That's why it's interesting to see someone younger and smarter give it a try, to see if anything can come of it.

>> No.14368742

>>14368668
I’m thinking I would do some polemics about literature (my professors say I have a gift at this) to start to build a niche and then expand from there to tackle “debate issues” and jerk off my own “ideas”

>>14368673
No one reads anymore anon. People who matter won’t read stuff from 2019 anyways. People listen to you if you have a following. YT is the best way to get a following in 2019.

>>14368684
You’re not wrong, but I don’t want fame for fame’s sake

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>>14368450
have him debate Jay Dyer and lets see how he stacks up

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>>14368450
I have lost my ability to take any self-proclaimed atheist seriously.

>> No.14368754

>>14368576
you literally didn't address any of Classical Theists points, the only cringe thing here is you

>> No.14368756

>>14368737
>to see if anything can come of it
clearly you are not very smart yourself if you don't recognize why this is nonsensical.

>> No.14368757

>>14368742
Do some Christian defense. YT for this is terrible and the TradCath-Athiest LARP wars are brewing big time on the internet

>> No.14368764

>>14368576
at least watch the video

>> No.14368770

>>14368750
or someone actually smart like the Dimond brothers or Classical Theist

>> No.14368773

>>14368689
>>14368703
Dawkins is a meme
https://www.baka.com.au/opinion/cancellation-of-atheist-shindig-is-a-disappointment-to-me--seriously-20171108-gzh3vh.html
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/aug/21/richard-dawkins-immoral-not-to-abort-a-downs-syndrome-foetus

>>14368757
why do u think anon is a Christian?

>> No.14368775

>>14368770
>the Dimond brothers or Classical Theist
I don't deny the intelligence of either, but lets be real here, Jay has more knowledge on Theism and Philosophy than those two combined and still some to spare

>> No.14368778

>>14368754
i never said his points were cringe, i probably agree with all of them. his brand is cringe though

>> No.14368785

>>14368673
boomer ass bitch

>> No.14368786

>>14368778
>his brand is cringe though
I think it's based. are you a boomer? CT appeals to a lot of zoomers

>> No.14368790

>>14368773
Doesn’t matter if he’s a Christian. He’s just trying to LARP as an e-celeb

>> No.14368799

>>14368786
no i'm a zoomer. maybe there are a lot of zoomer newfags who don't remember how cringe the skeptic youtube community was back in the gamergate/feminism days

>> No.14368810

>>14368775
I would die to see a debate between Jay Dier and either of the Dimonds

>> No.14368820

>>14368459
He interviewed Douglas and kept getting annoyed when Douglas called out his crude utilitarianism. Yes he is more articulate than most e-celebs but his worldview is based on a shallow kantianism that most people grow out of after they have lived a few years in the real world post-university. That he really sucked off Peter Singer who as we all know is a deeply pernicious man is proof enough that he has a lot to learn. You really think the kind of person who speaks at the (((Tel Aviv Atheist Vegan Conference))) has anything new and substantive to say?

>> No.14368877

>>14368820
>Peter Singer who as we all know is a deeply pernicious
Can you give me a TLDR as the kids say? Haven't been following twitter.

>> No.14368885

>>14368877
>Can you give me a TLDR?
Jew.

>> No.14368908

This nigga really thinks he's smart.

>> No.14368974

>>14368877
Just (((his))) philosophy in general. You know, this let us maximise happiness worldwide hokum. Blah blah blah the suffering of animals far outweighs the minor joy we get from eating meat therefore we shouldn’t eat meat because it’s cruel. As if the slight pain an animal feels when it is humanely killed is morally significant! It’s not even sentient. Give me a break. Blah blah blah don’t spend too much on your own kids because nogs are suffering in Africa. Yes you’re right (((Pete))) the only morally correct thing to do is give all my money to nogs because I’m just about getting by myself. Insidious legerdemain! Really it is all just 8D Judeo-Aussie shitposting.

>> No.14369638

>>14368974
>maximise happiness
Ah, one of those.
That shit should've died with Bentham.

>> No.14369733

>>14368494
so technowarrior just means keyboard warrior (You)

>> No.14369740

>>14369733
No. It means cybernetic Nazi death squads that have rocket launchers for hands and m-16s for cocks. And their first order of business will be killing niggers like you by the hundreds of millions.

>> No.14369742

>>14368450
We are living in an age where these clowns call themselves philosophers. What a time to be alive!

>> No.14369924

>>14369740
I'll be dead before then. Do try and catch up

>> No.14369955

has this guy ever had a take on islam or israel yet? or is it mostly safe targets?

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>>14368450
>>14369742
What would picrelated have to say on the matter?

>> No.14370084

>>14369978
Veganism, like climate change, is a ploy to weaken white men

>> No.14370086

>>14369742
Clowns have always called themselves philosophers. You just revere some of the old ones, weirdly enough.

>> No.14370178

>>14368450
Never heard of him. Pretty good speaker. His arguments aren't unique or that interesting, but they are presented passionately. And he is right. I've been 95% vegan for 6 months. It's pretty easy these days. I made some dank baked sweet potatoes and curry today.

>> No.14370212

>>14368750
hahahhahahh

>> No.14370231

>Those twig arms
Sorry but I don't listen to weaklings

>> No.14370237

>>14370084
don't forgot to tighten that tin-foil helmet

>> No.14370264

>>14370178
As a vegan where do you buy your shoes? From the outside looking in it seems like it would be a pain in the ass finding shoes that weren't completely shoddy, leaky pieces of shit that are also entirely free of leather.

>> No.14370288

>>14368450
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH brightest young philo-- HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA PLS HAHAHAH

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>>14368450
Alex is undoubtedly smart, I will admit. Perhaps its his eloquence that really make him stand out. However, he is not smart enough. I noticed that he made a video on Pascal’s Wager and obviously had no idea about Pensées. He’s made multiple videos about morality, most recently his vegan video, yet he has no idea what morality is. While he says that morality cannot be objective, he demands that we should all be vegan! And this is based on the same type of circular reasoning that he criticizes of religious people. The worst part of all this is that he’s deceiving millions of people, especially impressionable young people. I hope that he will change his ways, or it would be better if he had a millstone hung around his neck and was cast into the sea.

>> No.14370401

>>14370333
checked and based

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Haven't heard of him before but what is instantly striking is how embarrassingly hard he is emulating Hitchens in terms of mannerisms, diction, vocals, etc.

>> No.14370433

You just don't know enough philosophy majors or people in top notch universities. Not your fault ,though.

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>>14369740
>>>14368494
can you please teach me how to write like this? where does it come from. i love it so much and i just find it so funny. thank you.

>> No.14370445

>>14368494
>Ill rape and eat you like an animal if you want to act like one.

Welp. That's another one for my BASED folder.

>> No.14370454

>skinny little twink complains about muh animals for 30 minutes

Wow this is some great philosophical content, OP!

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>>14368651
okay /lit/ i'm younger than both these guys, go to community college and am a sorelian revolutionary super fascist.
i have never read anything either guenon or evola wrote. or sorel. or really anyone for that matter. all of my indispensable knowledge is fueled entirely by /lit/ memes

i'm also ugly but make up for the fact that i can be funny (sometimes)
i am a competent video editor and own a quality microphone
i want to bring the second coming of adolf
what kind of content should i create?

>>14368673
>>14368723
it's not just fame you fool. it is to spread your worldview to normalfaggots in an entertaining and digestible way. we need valuable zoomer manpower for the coming insurrection.

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>>14370473
alright sorry I called you a faggot. ordinarily ecelebs are cringe but since you're a fascist and love hitler you seem pretty based. god be with you and I hope you get a million subscribers
>>14370438
I spent my developmental years shit talking people on online video games. I don't play vidya anymore but for real I always used to enjoy the shit talking more than the actual game. You need to just channel rage in a sincere way. So yeah I'm pretty sure thats where I learned how to be profane and retarded.

>> No.14370545

>>14368494
Brother, you honor us with your strength and wisdom. May your hands snap the limbs of a thousand brittle vegans

>> No.14370555

>>14368703
Based aethesit. Now remember now that there's no God you need to prove you aren't a vicious social climbing ape by never eating eggs or cheese again and telling fucking everybody about it while you rent a flat for a price that could feed and cloth 1,000 starving Africans a year. Fuck God. I AM GOD

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>>14370509
>sorry i called you a faggot
wasnt me. You can revoke your revocation of that other anon's faggyness. I'm not exempt from the faggot label myself. Everyone is a faggot until proven otherwise and i have not yet proven my unfagginess to myself, much less to other people

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>>14368494
Holy fucking based

>> No.14371120

>>14368494
Sorry bro, the age of aristocracy is over and it's never coming back. Merchant bugmen will continue to rule forever. Even if you manage to form a group to oppose them they will just buy you off or pay someone else to deal with you. Also
>I'll rape...you like an animal
What the fuck did you mean by this?

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>>14368494
>homosexual TECHNO-""warrior""
You get culled too you ironic chucklefuck faggot.

>> No.14371385

>>14371120
>What the fuck did you mean by this?
the fuck do you think it means BITCH? I'LL FUCK YOU LIKE THE ANIMAL YOU ARE

>> No.14371423

>>14368494
Based!

>> No.14371480

>>14370333
Yeah I agree with this. He is an undoubtably smart lad, but he really needs to read and think more about ethics. His moral subjectivist position is simply incoherent and blemishes his overall brand.

>> No.14371519

I immediately lose respect for people that bring up ethics randomly, as if it’s such an imperative. Also they conflate the general term ‘ethics’ for Christian ethics.

I lose respect for them, because Christian ethics are, unironically, slave ethics.
The imperative centers around the self. You only experience your own consciousness. Everything else only inherently matters to you insider as it affects you. You are the God of your life, and, for you, the most ethical thing would be for people to bow and worship you.

My taste is dramatically more important than the life of an animal. Period.
If a tortured animal produced better taste, then the imperative would be to torture the thing.

It just so happens that torture produces worse-tasting meat. Likewise, factory farming produces unhealthy meat.

Anyway, this guy is a midwit

>> No.14371522

>>14370473
Work for me

>> No.14371547

>>14371522
What do you want

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>>14368450
This kid is stuck in a phase most people grow out of in high school. He is going to be very embarrassed is he ever develops beyond that stage.

>> No.14371557

>>14371519
>I lose respect for them, because Christian ethics are, unironically, slave ethics.

Do you ever say things like this IRL, and, if so, has anyone ever commented to your face on the fact that the shit you say is mindnumbingly gay? Or, alternatively, do you only share your sentiments on anonymous image-boards because it is easier to be told how gay your beliefs are by strangers on the internet, since you can just close the tab?

>> No.14371564

>>14371549
just the thought of him posing for this pic
maybe his heart is in the right place but he is a complete joke. i honestly think for this to be the case with any young philosopher. not simply because they are young but academia has devolved to have very little semblance with what it once was. There is so much bullshit you have to filter through it is ridiculous.

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>>14371557
Do you ever call things gay IRL?

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>>14371564
How come I, who am at least two standard deviations below this kid in terms of intelligence with no philosophical training and the same age, have a much more coherent worldview?

I think a lot of you people value Intelligence and Academia way too much, whereas I believe that personality plays a much greater role in determining a persons political and philosophical inclinations.

>> No.14371843

>>14371519
Being the god of your life you perish in your dreams.

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>>14371577
yes lol

>> No.14371893

>>14371130
No I won't because I eat meat and therefore have actually accrued muscle mass. I'll be there with my /fitlit/ bros to dab on your malnourished vegan corpse tho ;)

>> No.14371927

>>14370237
Anti-natalism is the same, especially since it plays into rabid environmentalism. According to the r/antinatalism poll, most ANs are white, depressed atheists living in the US.

>> No.14372055

>>14368450
He needs to read some Kierkegaard. He also seems to believe that if God exists then he can have some sort of meaningful rebellion. I guess this is always how strange atheism has been - they rage against someone who they don't believe in.

>>14368494
BASED

>> No.14372585

>>14370333
>Alex is undoubtedly smart
Actual smart guy here, he feels mentally challenged to me.

>> No.14372630

>>14368450
>atheist
>bright mind
Nah.

>> No.14372636

>>14372585
Intelligence is relative, you should know this. He’s easily in the 99%+ range. But I do believe sin is sullying his God-given intelligence. He’s obviously exhausting his mental abilities, but for wrong beliefs, and that’s why you think he’s retarded. But he’s still impressive. He reminds me of my young teenage self, but fortunately I didn’t broadcast my pride on YouTube in those awful times.

>> No.14372784

>>14372636
intelligence is meaningless if one is using their intelligence to go in the wrong direction. Why are there seemingly so many people with Greta rhetoric but no wisdom.

>> No.14372862

I've never seen this guys videos but you can just tell that he's a sanctimonious prick by these pictures

>> No.14372864

>>14372784
Sin, emotions, virtue signaling, etc. But you can tell clear differences in intelligence among those who believe these things

>> No.14372879

>>14368494
baste baste basteee

>> No.14372884

>>14372864
I've been going through his videos and I'm just baffled. I couldn't imagine going to school for theology when I don't believe in God. I genuinely don't understand new atheists. I feel that life is a search for truth; if I knew that God didn't exist I would just move past it and continue the search for truth. Why would anyone dedicate their lives to something that they know is false?

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>>14372884
forgot the picture. Imagine being such a bitch that you describe ideas as disgusting

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>>14368703
>>14372896
I don't understand why he debates Christianity from such a fundamentalist perspective if he has a theology degree

>> No.14373078

>>14371385
cringe

>> No.14373127

>>14373074
I doubt a society so detached from anything transcendental can actually legitimately teach theology.

>> No.14373169

>>14373127
Good thing then that no society can teach anything.

>> No.14373178

>>14372884
this is his persona. He makes money by being an Internet atheist. It’s sad because this means he’ll be even more resistant to changing his ways. How could you possibly tell everyone that you’ve changed your mind when you’ve been antagonizing religion for so long?

>> No.14373187

>>14373074
>theology degree
isn't having a "westernized" and "secularized" theology degree basically the same as having a psychology degree?

>> No.14373203

>>14373187
I was under the impression that you could only get a theology degree from Christian universities

>> No.14373208

>>14368494
>>14370509
Based Icycalm ripoff

>> No.14373212

>>14373203
evidently not, because surely Christians wouldn't be so inept at teaching it, even if they have been secularized into oblivion.

>> No.14373396

>>14373212
how do you know that the teachers are inept?

>> No.14373493

>>14368494
are you stronger than a gorilla faggot? the only meat they consume are insects. deluded carnoid cope

>> No.14373521

>>14373493
gorillas also have different genetics because they’re a different species. Learn to logic

>> No.14373545

>>14368450
>*gets destroyed by muslims*

>> No.14373561

Can someone explain posts like this?
>>14368494


Like how exactly does eating meat make you "masculine" or "powerful"? Literally 99.999% of soibois eat meat. You're not special or macho.

This is coming from somebody on the standard american diet of burgers and chicken.

>> No.14373573

>>14373561
its funny thats why

>> No.14373614

>>14373493
are humans gorillas faggot

>> No.14373745

>>14373493
I believe humans actually developed their intelligence from eating cooked meats.

>> No.14373764

>>14373561
Eating chicken makes you more of a chicken.
Eating cow makes you more of a cow.
Etc. Sois are docile and cowardly.

>> No.14374155

>>14373545
how did a mudslime destroy him?

>> No.14374355

>>14374155
by existing

>> No.14374417

>>14373521
maybe your shit genetics carnoid. when the day of the rope comes i'll glady take the side of Morrissey. the RZA, Hitler and Gautama over some cringe coping incels on 4channel

>> No.14374436

>>14373561
Everyone who commented based to that post is cringe and/or under 18, don't worry.
t. Meat eater

>> No.14374562
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14374562

>>14368450
What is his stance on Soýlent? Does he view it as an advanced and progress-enabling replacement for the consumption of food? (which is admittedly an archaic and socially constructed institution). It could help his anti-animal-abuse cause too.

>> No.14374961

>>14373561
It's not that eating meat makes you strong, it's the majority of people who choose to be vegans are weak

>> No.14374996

>>14368450
>philosophizing about veganism
That's gonna be a big yikes from me dawg

>> No.14375794

>>14374996
are plants lives less valuable than humans? starve yourself or you're a bigot

>> No.14376048

>>14375794
Veganism is fine but building a whole philosophical mode of reasoning behind it is just retarded. You either eat meat or you don't, because it hurts the animals or is good for the environment. That's it. Don't be autistic and philosophise about it, it just shows you're retarded.

>> No.14376457

>>14376048
this

>> No.14377013

>>14368646
>vegan
>atheist
>egalitarian
>determinist
>utilitarian
Anglos were a mistake

>> No.14377023

>>14377013
Literally how can one identify as all of these and not cringe at the sight of themselves in the mirror?

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14377038

>>14368450
>>14374562
Is that the so-called Deep Philospher Gaze he is trying to emulate here? Wittgenstein was a pseudointellectual, but it surely came naturally to him. Seems like anglos are yet again castrated in something most people understand on an intuitive level.

>> No.14377049

>>14376048
>Veganism is fine
Only if you are trying to achieve enlightnement via hinduism/buddhism, i.e., if you have legitimate religious reasons. Otherwise it is anti-life degeneracy and should be purged from this world.