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What books should I read to become a better person? I don't know necessarily what I mean by that, in short, my ex means everything to me and not having her makes me feel worthless. Where does the road begin in terms of literature, to gain self worth, insight, and enrich my future? Once again, I'm not entirely sure what this means for me or what I should be looking for, I just want to be better than I am today or the days before.

>> No.14719712

>>14719707
no book will help

>> No.14719717

>>14719707
Sounds like you need some Dostoevsky or Chekhov

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>>14719707
Books don’t give you this. Not good books, anyway. Go watch romantic comedy movies or something. Good books will only tell you the truth that you’re selfish, self-absorbed, and you deserved a stupid bitch like her. Stop looking for salvation in others: it is an inevitable road to ruin.

Also: do more drugs.

>> No.14719767

>>14719707
When I figured out I had cancer the book that I thought about and reread to help me was Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations. There’s something in it like “The good things that come from prosperity are to be wished for, but the good things which comes from adversity are to be admired.”

>> No.14719801

>>14719717
What readings in particular to start? Maybe I should have mentioned that I am looking for non-fiction that maybe can guide me towards helping understand underlying truths of self.
>>14719712
I'm not looking for a cope for romance, I want to build myself up into a successful person, and gain wealth, not money or status in life exactly.
>>14719745
>Good books will only tell you the truth that you’re selfish, self-absorbed, and you deserved a stupid bitch like her. Stop looking for salvation in others
I know, I am looking how to be okay with just myself, and that she is the one missing out, not the other way around. She did give me a meaning to life and inspired me. Even when she is gone, I'm not suicidal anymore, she gave me a gift she doesn't see or understand and I want to use it to be selfish in a way by proving I am more than she or even I thought I could be. Also no, fuck drugs.
>>14719767
I've thought this for awhile, adversary creates character. The unfortunate thing is that while maybe I am right in this, I am tired now of always building character, but losing what I care most about time and time again just in order to say I've built more character. I will look into that, thank you.

>> No.14719803

>>14719801
Not everything that happens to you is a test

>> No.14719804

>>14719767
how is your treatment going, anon?

>> No.14719811

>>14719803
I don't think of it like a test, by the most meaningful things come with gain and loss I believe, it seems like you can't have one without the other around the corner.

>> No.14719815

just do fucking acid or smoke a lot of weed
no book wil help u. unless you brainwash urself into thinking everything in that book is fact and ur law

>> No.14719827

>>14719801
She was just a practice run on the killer slopes of life’s emotions. Stop being a faggot, and just learn to ski better next time. She ‘taught’ you fuck all.

Sage for /adv/.

>> No.14719837

>>14719815
I'd rather be strong on my own without needing the distractions of intoxication. I want to make solutions, not avoid them. Whether my ex or a future partner, I'd like know I can shoulder any burden for the both of us.

>> No.14719840

>>14719804
> being thoughtful, kind, and generous with your time
> on 4chan

Nigger pls.

>> No.14719861

>>14719827
If you can't learn from others, its because you are too bitter. Most things in life you learn come from others, why would someone you dated be an exception?

>> No.14719873

>>14719707
keep your chin up king, your crown is falling off

>> No.14719895

>>14719861
This is just objectively wrong in every possible way. I can tell you’re literally about 16. Fuck off and lurk more.

>> No.14719945

>>14719895
25. Did you not have parents, teachers, advisers, authors, strangers, or anyone else never teach you something? Chances are extremely high that most of your characteristics and learned behaviors are from someone. I mean, look at how angry you are over a stranger online, you learned that from others on 4chan.

>> No.14719963

>>14719945
No.

>> No.14719969

you lost her because you cared too much. there's nothing wrong with who you are, the problem that if you value a woman too highly, her instincts tell her that she has "captured" you, and she will begin to get bored and seek a new challenge. a woman seeks a man whom she can never conquer, who makes her live by his principles and who sees her and treats her as easily replaceable.

you're not worthless, and she's not as important as you think. the chemicals in your brain are fooling you to think she's special, don't let your feelings think for you. if you're really hurting, the best thing to do is to just start dating again. once you find a new girl who gives you that same spark, you will wonder what you ever saw in your ex.

>> No.14719990

>>14719969
Maybe, I don't really know how she truly feels or anything, and while I'd love for things to go back and be together again, I need to in essence do what you've said and that is be a man who can never be conquered. To do that, I want to as I said in my post, gain self worth, insight, and enrich my future. I was hoping literature would have some answers, I don't read much of anything outside textbooks for school. I am genuinely hoping to find ways to become better, and maybe help others along the way.

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>> No.14720071

>>14720041
>>14720022
>>14720016
What is the top 3? Preferably non-fiction, I'm a /lit/let, that list just looks too daunting.

>> No.14720098

>>14720071
just pick 3 and finish them

>> No.14720105

>>14720071
Okay.
Read mere Christianity by CS Lewis.
Then read the screwtape letters by Lewis.

>> No.14720130

>>14720105
Thank you, I will give them a read.

>> No.14720259

>>14719990

you will never truly know how she feels, but this doesn't matter. a man with principles projects his steadfast character like a rock, and eventually a woman will give in. trying to figure out what she wants is ruin, for ultimately a woman's wants, like all human cravings, are capricious and arbitrary.

you say you need resources on how to be an unconquerable man? i say you do not. that is an attitude, not something you can copy out of a book. it is an attitude inherent in every man which today's society has incessantly tried to hammer out of you since birth.

you're doing the right thing. you should always strive for self-improvement, but always remember that true self improvement comes from within. you can synthesize ideas and beliefs, but ultimately you must separate and mutate new ideas to fit your life, your situation, your aims. you must know yourself and trust yourself. never doubt your capabilities. never make the mistake of thinking you're always right, but always believe that you can arrive to the truth with effort. if you can't depend on yourself to arrive at the truth, then you might as well give up your free will and become a slave to another. this is the essence of the unconquerable man, that requires nothing outside of your faith in yourself.

>> No.14720369

>>14720259
And maybe looking for new ideas and beliefs is what I am seeking, a recent interest of mine that I enjoy for instance is jungian psychology, the shadow or id is an interesting concept as well as anima/animus. I'd peeked at this meditations book and reading about an old Roman emperors private thoughts is interesting. Maybe a little more interesting than normal because I love the movie Gladiator, and didn't know Marcus was a real person.

I certainly believe the greatest place to find self improvement comes from within as well, and I feel I've had plenty of good thoughts or ideas slip because I keep everything in my head, perhaps because I don't think highly of myself so what good could I do? So I am slowly working up now to just writing maybe a thought or two a day that I enjoy or maybe think there could be meaning in to keep for the future for whatever use it may or may not have. Hopefully it can be more, I do like writing and I've been told I am good at it, though I don't believe it. That is a part of my problem I'd like to fix, that it is possible people say something positive to me because it is true.

>> No.14721105

Hah I felt the same way when I was dumped and I blamed my ignorance and poor perceptions. I tried to read challenging stuff but what worked was to read differently and think. Think a hell. Think a lot. And with time I came to understand that I wasn't that stupid nor ignorant. I wasn't paying attention to thoughts, feelings and things happening out there.

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>>14719945
I believe he has been baiting you anon

>> No.14721789

>>14719804
It’s going alright, thanks for asking. I had surgery about a week ago and I’m recovering now. Any cancer is daunting, especially being in my early 20s, but I’m lucky I have a highly treatable kind, that I only had to lose a nut, and that it’s looking like I might not need much further treatment other than routine tests to monitor it.

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>>14719745
Good kek. Thanks.
>>14719707
Tao te ching, bhagavad gita, quran, then the bible. Understand them. Dont just read them.>>14719895
>>14720071

Your life is not about your enjoyment of it. Its about what you can do to help others. Dont spend too much time here either.

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>>14721105
>I tried to read challenging stuff but what worked was to read differently and think.
What?
>>14721713
Probably, though there is always the slight chance of unironic idiocy.
>>14721789
That's good to hear, losing a nut still scares me though.
>>14721961
>Dont spend too much time here either.
It's too late, I've been on this site since '07.

>> No.14722622

>>14719707
The moment you conjured the cursed word "ex" I knew there was no hope.

>> No.14722633

>>14719707
The Rational Male
Might help with your current problem of idolizing mediocre pussy.

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>> No.14724903

>>14719745
>>14719815
omg.,..... im gonna consoooom druggies ahaha duuuuuude just hit that bong man omagad where did you get that weed joe? thats so fuckign great i feel very funny hahaha. very good :) ooh man so relaxed i wish i could just you know smoke weed hahaha for my whole life and do nothing just chilll by the way joe pass me those chips they are freking tasty hahaha

>> No.14724920

>>14719707
1/ Read the Dao De Jing
2/ Compare all available translations
3/ ????
4/ Profit!

>> No.14724932

>>14719707
The Oddessy
Count of Monte Cristo
Musashi
Man and His Symbols
Myths to Live By
Tribe

A calculus textbook, a chemistry textbook, a biology textbook, a western civilization textbook, a physics textbook, a textbook on materials and manufacturing, a textbook on how to sail

You also should do 6 grams of mushrooms and exercise daily as well as buy 3 or more guns and own an alpha romeo as well as a subaru at some point in your life.