/lit/ - Literature

>>14789110
>Anti-Christianity

Why would you ever damn yourself in an eternity in hell just for some affirmation?

>>14789134
Nobody on /pol/ has read these

>>14789134
>not starting with the greeks
lol

>>14789149
I'd be surprised if more than 1% of /pol/ has read any serious books beyond grade school.

Thinking about getting a serious chart together of contemporary continental philosophers and their most influential work. Going to be based on this post >>14788983

Let me know if you all have any suggestions! I feel like it would help /lit/ a lot.

>>14789110
This chart looks shitty

h. anti-theist

>>14789181
Don't make a chart unless you are a master of the subject matter. Crowdsourcing it will only produce a pile of shit.

>>14789201
Well to be honest I might be one of the only few on /lit/ able and interested in doing it. I also go to university for philosophy. I'll try and double check by looking at citation count too.

If any veterans are here that want to take up the task they're free to. Just reply.

>>14789110
>anti-christianity
ok zoomer

>>14789308
No Paradise Lost?

I've got to ask. How big is /pseudcord/? Can one request access? I rarely use Discord but this chart looks too appealing not to ask if I can join.

Incomplete/Unfinished because a poll would be more appropriate when it comes to something like fave characters
but my PC is dying so I'm posting it too

>>14789439
Is there an good commentated chumash alternative to the Soncino one that I can download online? I haven't found a single download of it anywhere.

>>14789110
nice new chart. are you the german bro from /pol/

>>14789169
Depends what you count as a /pol/ack. I'm pretty sure a lot of people here go over to /pol/ just to troll them.

>>14789110
I thought Pagan Imperialism by Evola was a good anti-christian book. I need to read stirner and feuerbach

Does anyone have a Carl Jung chart?

There was a chart with English grammar books and other such things. Does anyone have it?

>>14789780
I submit Mercutio and Madame Bovary as candidates

>>14789766
>Chart guy took my thoughts on Piercing VS Audition and made changes to the chart
Hey, that's cool man. I hope some anon's and/or yourself enjoy Piercing when they/you read it.

>>14790196
I actually just ordered it because of that chart. Thanks anon. Small world

>>14790246
It's funny to think I've indirectly affected somebody's reading list on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. I hope you like it, anon. Out of what I've read, it's my favourite Ryu Murakami work.

where's the guy who said he's going to remake this chart with a cleaner and larger resolution?

>affirming yourself by negating a dead religion

>>14790386
>A Locomotive biography

(I'm looking forward ot reading it!)

>>14789134
Tbh if someone truly digested these they wouldn’t be shitposting about Jews on /pol/. Some truly top level difficulty books on here (the Hegel and Kant especially) and even the “easier” works (the Smith, the Marx, and the Keynes) would be hard for any shitposter. Hell, I consider myself at least a midwit and Meditations took me almost a month and a half to read just reading a few times a week. Notes were necessary and I had to spend a lot of time digesting each paragraph, though it was absolutely worth the read.

I doubt anyone beyond professional philosophers or political scientists have actually knocked this whole list out.

>>14790418
I'm here I made the chart originally, I will remake it tomorrow and post it, been busy and it slipped my mind

>>14789780
consider Prince Myshkin (The Idiot), Galahad (Arthurian romance), and Satan (Paradise Lost)

>>14790476
>Meditations took me almost a month and a half to read
a 100pg "baby's first stoicism" book took you a month and a half?
ouch

>>14789181
I’m no help but I do encourage you to make one, I think it would be helpful. One recommendation would be a small section of pop / lay philosophers off to the side of the chart and labeled as such, like Taleb or others who are currently popular. It would cut out some of the noise from people who would yell “where’s Jordan Peterson “ and would allow you to focus the main portion of the chart on actual professional philosophers.

>>14790488
Yes, I know. I think the fact that it was aphoristic slowed me a bit, because each paragraph is somewhat self contained I had to digest at the end of each one. I do have notes of the entire book now so that was worth it. Also in my defense I don’t have a lot of time to read, I’m a 4HL goon and can’t spend hours reading unfortunately.

>>14789169
There are plenty of well-read people on /pol/. Many times there are better discussions there on literature than on /lit/.

>>14789134
Where is part 2?

>>14790510
lol

>>14789419
Thanks for this chart, Anon. This is probably my most favorite chart I've ever seen posted in one of these threads.

If we're discuting some /pol/ crap

>>14789127
>hell
prove that such a place exists faggot?

>>14790727
Why is Josephus on the list?

>>14790733
Look at the news and you'll see

>>14790826
which one?

>>14789220
> do not circulate

Nice reverse psychology

Did the chart collection that's uploaded on MEGA get updated? I think there are some new charts like >>14789229

>>14791126
Do I need all the history shit ????

How many of these have you read, /lit/?

Also, anyone got a chart about the Jewish-American experience? Something like Roth?

>>14789801
You can find specific commentaries, but not ones that pull in multiple sources from different commentaries.

Have you looked through Sefaria?
https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.1.1?lang=bi&with=Commentary&lang2=en

>>14789127
>you risk eternal torture for reading some books
>and that's a good thing
Ever wonder why they call christians 'cucks'?

>>14790634
different anon, here you go.

>>14789110
Can anyone post the Monarchist chart?

>>14791711

>>14791722
Many thanks!

>>14790735
What a loser chart

>>14791480
Goddamn this list massacred me lmao.

>>14790727
There is no point in including de Benoist's 'Manifesto for a European Renaissance' on the same list as Sunic's 'Against Democracy and Equality', because the former is included in the latter as an appendix.
Also, I don't recall Judaism being mentioned - at the very least, it was not a significant topic - in Klages' 'The Biocentric Worldview'.

>>14789127
That's what they said when I passed by a mosque.

>>14789149
>Sad.

>>14790480
nice, good luck with it

>>14789766
Anyone else have horror-related charts?

original content :)

>>14792393

Can somebody make equivalent for this with books?

>>14791718
Please stop. We have more than dozen libertarian charts

>>14791698
Opinions on this chart? Anon

>>14792260
see the horror section:
>4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts

>>14791086
I update it when I get around to it. When this thread is finished I'll have it download all the images posted and then use a duplicate detector and then manually check the remaining ones. Those that remain are mostly added.

>>14789110
Self-affirmation is cryptochristianity.

>>14791732
pic related too

>>14793225
I like this chart, it gives a very broad perspective on politics. Carl Schmitt is underated. I might have replaced Nozick with some of Rothbards work, Nozick can be a brainlet at times. Also Smiths book may be a little out of place.

Any unique charts on Asian literature beyond the general classics? I'd love to read some Asian adventure literature.

>>14793914
nice

>>14789110
>>14789117
>>14789220
>>14789428
>>14790727
>>14790735
>>14791480
>>14791718
cringe. all of these books appear on better charts.

is there a chart for how to go /out/, do shit around the house and be a boomer who goes to home depot on weekends to fix the cabinet, etc.?

>>14794034
It's called a scheduler

>>14791480
Name a better piece of /lit/ to namedrop than endgame. Even better now that all the plebs think you're talking about the capeshit movie.

>>14791718
Atlas shrugged is trash

>>14794034

>>14793352
Thank you for your work.
Can you post the MEGA link again?

>>14794297
https://mega.nz/#F!JrhSyY6S!7qmTPol52TnmpFOdbag7RQ

>>14794324
Thanks.

>>14794324
thank you, this is amazing

lmao
https://wrappedupinbooks.org/readers-advisory-resources/

yep, this may be interesting

YOUR "CHARTS" ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF AMAZON WISHLISTS.
YOU'RE MAKING CHARTS OF BOOKS YOU HAVEN'T READ.

YOU NIGGER-FAGGOTS
FUCK JANNIES
FUCK WHITE PEOPLE
FUCK ANIME
FUCK MOTT MK2
FUCK THE MODS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

>>14794575

>>14794581

Is there a chart of "nautical-core"? I imagine things like Moby Dick and the Old Man and the Sea would be on that, for example

>>14792625
Didn't realize there was a limit, faggot

>>14789141
I briefly went crazy following this chart, I read the first lines (minus High castle and electric sheep, which I read a few years ago) within the span of a few months. When I got to VALIS I felt the onset of insanity and dissociation and had to stop.

>>14794575
Where is the I'm Charting meme?

>>14795039
Conrad

Any books about living in a simulation, or a Lain kind of sci-fi?

>>14789204
Hot ziggity!

WIP mesoamerican reading chart


Open to feedback on fonts, text size, general layout, book suggestions, etc. Main things I want input on though is

- If the description sections for the Spanish Conquest and the "What is Mesoamerica" is too long or not: I sort of feel like they are but I also actually didn't even finish the latter, I wanna talk about the different periods of Mesoamerican history too

- If you feel like I should add additional sections for Warfare, philosophy, linguistics, mytholiogy, etc or not: On one hand there's generalist books about those not limited to 1 civilization that don't fit into the existing sections, on the other hand it might "dilute"/spread stuff across sections too much and take spots away from the stuff I would have in existing ones here and there, and/or force me to have duplicates.

As is, actually, I have Duran and Sahagun's histories in the Conquest section when those are primarily Aztec history/socetial documents, so I need to decide if I want to just them just both twice, each pair in each section, or just have them in Aztec but then have arrows leading to the conquest section too, etc, so input on that (if that is too hard to understand I can make a diagram, let me know)

Also, prior feedback I got, lemmie know if you agree or disagree with them: https://archived.moe/his/thread/7878000/#7884585

>>14789149
correction, nobody on /pol/ reads

>>14793352
You've probably seen a lot of charts if you run a mega for them, got any feedback for me on >>14796233 ?

>>14796233
>>14796238
Actually worth noting I DID revise the "What ris Mesoamerica" section, I just forgot to modify my post text since I am copypasting it from a prior time I asked for feedback and forgot to update the post text.

I'm pretty happy with that section now, but stoill open to feedback on it

>>14793169
I've never seen more aesthetic value in my life.

>>14794945
some of those books are from valencia, not catalunya, you should fuck yourself with your appropiation desu

>>14795404
i read valis while microdosing lsd
i went nuts

>>14789780
Gandalf
Ignatius J Reilly
Patrick Batemen

>>14796238
>feedback
No, not really.

>>14793536
i made chart along the lines of fiction though i haven't read Freud is that book realty all about mother son household sexual dynamics ?

>>14789419
I love gothic books but am too busy and distracted to read more. I MUST FINISH A BOOK TODAY

>>14789110

>>14792260
Here you go, anon

>>14793980
underrated

>>14796362
We wuz Catalangs n sheeit.

>>14793980
>no Linkola

>>14789181
>>14790496

Alright /lit/ I'm back. It's not done yet but here's a still early list so far for people to lay eyes on. The (incomplete) list of the most influential in continental thought alive today and their most notable book or relevant book.


Ideology
Zizek (121863 Citations) The Sublime Object of Ideology (9881 Citations)
Catherine Malabou (4450 Citations) What Should We Do with Our Brain? (867 Citations)

Cultural & Critical Theory
Mladen Dolar (4882 Citations) A Voice and Nothing More (1381 Citations)
Peter Sloterdijk (23693 Citations) Critique of Cynical Reason (3666 Citations)
Franco Berardi (5386 Citations) The Soul at Work: From Alienation to Autonomy (767 Citations)
Rahel Jaeggi (2493 Citations) Critique of Forms of Life (429 Citations)

Feminism
Luce Irigaray (40860 Citations) This Sex Which Is Not One (8269 Citations)

Philosophy of Religion
Jean-Luc Marion (11502 Citations) God Without Being (1304 Citations)
John Caputo (15065 Citations) On Religion (504 Citations)

Speculative Realism
Graham Harman (9842 Citations) Prince of Networks: Bruno Latour and Metaphysics (1382 Citations)
Quentin Meillassoux (3607 Citations) After Finitude (1683 Citations)
Ray Brassier (1625 Citations) Nihil Unbound: Enlightenment and Extinction (651 Citations)

Aesthetics
Jacques Rancière (72103 Citations) The Politics of Aesthetics (4973 Citations)

Postmodernism (and Beyond)
Frederic Jameson (114959 Citations) Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (27715 Citations)
Gilles Lipovetsky (35361 Citations) Hypermodern Times (4016 Citations)

Philosophy of Science
Bruno Latour (179885 Citations) We Have Never Been Modern (19698 Citations)
Jean-Pierre Dupuy (8602 citations) On the Origins of Cognitive Science: The Mechanization of the Mind (1041 Citations)

Ethics
Alenka Zupančič (1742 citations) Ethics of the Real: Kant and Lacan (738 Citations)

New Realism
Maurizio Ferraris (5799 Citations) Manifesto of New Realism (526 Citations)
Markus Gabriel (1742 Citations) Why the World Does Not Exist (264 Citations)

Social Theory
Jürgen Habermas (425691 Citations) The Theory of Communicative Action (61315 Citations)
Etienne Balibar (36814 Citations) Race, Nation, Class: Ambiguous Identities (3,635 Citations)
Maurizio Lazzarato (12117 Citations) The Making of the Indebted Man (1312 Citations)
Chantal Mouffe (74338 citations) Hegemony And Socialist Strategy: Towards A Radical Democratic Politics (19962 Citations)

Legal Theory
Roberto Unger (10665 Citations) The Critical Legal Studies Movement (2616 Citations)

Ontology
Alain Badiou (40020 Citations) Being and Event (2739 Citations)

>>14797709
Political Philosophy
Giorgio Agamben (122227 citations) Homo sacer: Sovereign Power and Bare Life (30176 Citations)
Paolo Virno (16724 citations) A Grammar of the Multitude (3859 Citations)
Christoph Menke (4777 citations) Critique of Rights (110 Citations)

Postcolonialism
Gayatri Spivak (82089 citations) Can the Subaltern Speak? (23016 Citations)

Race
Robert Bernasconi (5881 citations) Who invented the concept of race? (article in Race) (327 Citations)

>>14790506
Don't feel bad anon. Meditations was my first intro philosophy book and I felt that every entry was some truthful revelation. It took me awhile to get through it because I dislike reading but it's okay because the stoics were right about everything

>>14797709
>>14797712
now somebody turn this into a visual chart and stick in the mega

How, and to what extent, did technical progress influence the development of progressive value judgements in the 21st Century?

Any charts on this? Doing a personal research project. I think I have fallen on technological determinism.

>>14794072
ouf.

>>14797709
>Jean-Luc Marion (11502 Citations) God Without Being
Anyone in this thread read this? Looks very interesting. Apparently the author is a Catholic who was a student of Derrida. Not sure if i would need to read Derrida before this work. Looks cool either way.

>>14794575
Can I have a chart for this feel?

>>14797709
>>14797712
List is done. Here's some added stuff continued on from above. If anyone's got a name that's somehow missing would love to hear it.

Cultural & Critical Theory (continued)
Avital Ronell (5013 Citations) Stupidity (337 Citations)
Raoul Vaneigem (5013 Citations) The Revolution of Everyday Life (1160 Citations)
Byung-Chul Han (7003 Citations) The Burnout Society (1367 Citations)
Manuel DeLanda (8766 Citations) A New Philosophy of Society: Assemblage Theory And Social Complexity (3978 Citations)

Feminism (continued)
Judith Butler (264340 Citations) Gender Trouble (73918 Citations)

Philosophy of Religion (continued)
Richard Kearney (15909 Citations) Anatheism: Returning to God After God (346 Citations)

Postmodernism (and Beyond) (continued)
Gianni Vattimo (26748 Citations) The End of Modernity: Nihilism and Hermeneutics in Postmodern Culture (3295 Citations)

Social Theory (continued)
Jean-Luc Nancy (34847 citations) The Inoperative Community (4269 Citations)
Axel Honneth (57554 citations) The Struggle for Recognition: The Moral Grammar of Social Conflicts (16779 Citations)

Metaphysics
Bernard Stiegler (14244 Citations) Technics and Time, 1: The Fault of Epimetheus (3050 Citations)

Political Philosophy (continued)
Antonio Negri (50479 citations) Empire (24709 Citations)

Methodology
Francois Laruelle (2120 citations) Principles of Non-Philosophy (152 Citations)

>>14796233
This is a good intro to Aztec mythology. I'd love to have more on Zapotec history. I was born in the coast of Oaxaca and I've heard of king Ocho Venado (Eight Deer), and the zapotec water god Cocijo, but I don't have lit sources.

>>14790506
What does 4HL mean?

Can anyone make/post a Georgist chart? Economics/philosophical justification I’m very interested in the philosophy

I'm quite wealthy and dislike the lowerclass. What books and literature is for me?

>>14799247
I'm only going to be including english books, since so many primary sources are already in the public domain in Spanish and that changes the available sources to read so drastically.

But yeah, I have books on 8 deer already planned for the Oaxaca section

For those who aren't aware who 8 deer is:

>Noble born in the Mixtec city of Tilantongo in 1063AD, bitter he wasn't eligible for the throne
>get some renown fighting as a general for the king of another Mixtec city, Jaltepec
>eventually request an Oracle (who hold political clout in Mixtec society) to give you the right to conquer some towns of the neighboring Chatino civilization along the coasts
>Do so, found your own city of Tututepec there, further gain political power and influence by doing so
>Return back to Tilantongo, it's king dies with no heirs, so you inherit the throne due to your new influence
>Potentially leveraging the tropical/coastal goods you gained access to via your coastal conquests, you forge an alliance with the Toltec dynasty in the city of Cholula (which had widespread religious influence) and it's king Lord 4 Jaguar Face of the Night, and get his blessings in 1097
>Now that you have proven yourself, are the kings of two city-states and their kingdoms, and have political backing from another large influential player, you completely sidestep the Oracles
>End up conquering nearly 100 cities over the next 18 years, unifying 2 of the 3 major regions of the Mixtec civilization into a single empire
>Notably in 1103, finally conquer the city which had historically had dominion over Tilantongo, and kill not just it's king and your arch-rival 11 Wind Bloody Jaguar (who had cucked you by marrying your half-Sister/lover), but his entire extended family, aside from 1 boy
>Die via sacrifice in 1115 a ironic twist of fate when said boy, 4 Wind, grows up and rallies a bunch of the cities and towns you conquered against you
>while the empire shatters, Tututepec remains a major political power and grows in influence, resitting Aztec invasions centuries down the line

>>14796233
need Lee's book on Nezahualcoyotl. He's pre-Aztec but greatly influenced that culture so maybe in "General Overview"

>>14797143

>>14789134
>/pol/ pretending they read anything in tier 3 or half of anything in tier 2
kek
These hardly even tie together thematically, they just intuited a set of generally safe recommendation choices in philosophy. It would be a very good self education were someone to read all of these but I'll eat a fucking ass if the person who made this or anyone on /pol/ has even come close.

"make sure to read the critique of pure reason and the critique of practical reason together!" my fucking ass

>>14790480
do it nigga, i wanna read that shit
>>14791480
14/25
>>14793169
>he didn't put THAT poem in the whitespace
not gonna make it.
>>14793871
as far as i can tell most of it just doesn't get translated. i've spoken to koreans and most of their shit just does not exist translated in english anywhere at all. only the major classics in chinese and japanese have been translated. even in japanese a lot of it just isn't put into baka gaijin runes. modern chinese got firewall'd.

i mean, you would think with the number of unemployed bilingual NEETs they would at least do something as useful as translating books, maybe set up a donation box to make shekels for their efforts if the mere contribution to the culture of humanity wasn't enough compensation, but nooooo.

>>14800767
Yes, I already have Allure of Nezhuacoyotl listed in what i'm gonna have in the Aztec section, and the intellectualism/literature section if I have one

>>14789524
You really think anyone there has read a single one of these books? I'm gonna let you in on a secret. The answer is no.

>>14800639
It feels really fucking weird to read names of cities within 500 km of my hometown here on 4Chan. Thanks for this.

Can someone post the Mishima chart? Thanks frendos

>>14789780
Yossarian (Catch-22)

>>14791480
I understand, but you come off as very arrogant so your point is now void

>>14794519
Cool list, some of those sound interesting-ish

>>14790418
Balzac being a fucking minor? What?

>>14790733
*tips fedora*

>>14791698
>right-wing socialism

>>14801462

>>14789110
>>14789117
Based

>>14789780
Dorian Gray

>>14791480

15 lmfao

>>14789149
>>14789169
>>14801017

I have read many of them. All sorts of ad hominem going on in these posts.

>>14801422
I actually could use your help in tracking down some museum exhibits and local resources in Oaxaca, now that I think about it, since as an American guy who only speaks English info can be hard to find online for a few things: There was an exhibit on Mixtec weaponry a few months ago for example which I'm wanting to find out more about, for instance

If you'd be willing to help, shoot me an email saintseiyasource@gmail.com and include a link to your post in it (so I know who you arew); just keep in mind I am bad at replying quiickly so it could be weeks/months before I get back to you., so if you do do it use an email address you'll be checking regularly long term, not a throwaway

>>14789110
chart infographics are the biggest cancer i can imagine and not even mid-wits like them. i cannot imagine the retarded waste of life that sits there making this dog shit let alone reading them.

>>14789134
>kant
>hegel
>hard to read
top zozzle

>>14801617
Really good.

>>14802315
>i cannot imagine the retarded waste of life that sits there making this dog shit let alone reading them.

Let... alone... reading... them... let that sink in for a minute, this guy over here thinks reading the works in many (if not all) of this charts is a retarded waste of time... and here are some of the pillars of human creation.

This faggot just said reading Plato, Homer, Dostoevsky, Smith et. al. is retarded.

What the fuck are you doing then in this chan?

>>14789134
>calvin's institutes
why

>>14792393
sweet thanks anon. Just picked up Born to Run the other day. Training for my first half marathon at the moment

>>14802308
Already hit you up.

>>14802308
I'm guessing you mean this one

"Museo exhibe armas de guerreros mixtecas" https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/cultura/patrimonio/museo-exhibe-armas-de-guerreros-mixtecas?amp

Any Catholic literature?

>>14789149
I have but I agree.

>>14803961
Book of the New Sun

>>14802315
>stop liking what I don't like

>>14802116
Different definition tard. It's capitalism but with more power to the state, so they can preserve the nations values

>>14803961

>>14804640
No Canticle for Leibowitz, for shame.

>>14801017
come on, meditations is butt easy. i think enough of the romaboos have read that.

>>14804640
Thanks m8

>>14804640
nice. Been meaning to read Wolfe and Endo

>>14790386
Subtle locomotive posting

>>14804640
Also french trad version

Anyone got any dark academia charts?

>>14793169
based universe-posting

http://www.greatconversation.com/10-year-reading-plan

>>14804910
I wonder if someone just has a notepad file of books. I just use these charts as a list for my archive

>>14804910
Kek. Very true.

>>14789428
now this is cancer

>>14790735
it is absolutely hilarious to throw Capital up there as a starter and then "progressing" to 1984. nobody who makes these fucking reads outside of wiki pages and summaries, it's embarrassing

>>14791220
you do not need to start with anything please ignore this garbage and read what you're interested in and work through supplementary texts as needed. only a few massive autismos are even capable of working through this shit "in order" (arbitrary order and association anyway) without exhausting themselves and giving up, and more power to them but it is not good advice for actually learning

>>14793225
this is great, you know it's a good list when if you choose at random nothing would be a waste of time to read and everything would open up lots of opportunities for further study

>>14789141
Valis fucked me up more than any book I've ever read. I honestly think it's the type of book that could drive people insane if they think about it too much. I'm getting nervous just thinking about it.

>>14805378
Holy crap I remember making this. I think I first posted it on /fit/. Glad to see it posted!

>>14789110

>>14792393
Add Haruki Murakami's "What I Talk About When I Talk About Running".

>>14799236
It's kind of weird how you're criteria is "continental thought alive today", which means that e.g. "The Revolution of Everyday Life", which was written in 1967, is included, but later, much more influential works by e.g. Deleuze or Foucault aren't included because the author died at a younger age.

>>14798630
Reading American Psycho now, just about finished it. It's taken make a long while since it's not a priority to finish, but it's pretty fucking based.

>>14795306
How appropriately libertarian

>>14805378
ew protestants

>>14802315
Tell me more about your inadequacies in chart-making. Did your mother first tell you you were bad at charts?

>>14808309
It's just people alive today. That's it. It's a shame they died at a younger age but a lot of these works need some acquaintance with their thought anyway. At best I'll put it as a recommendation on the side but it's just people able to speak today. I don't think a lot of /lit/ is aware of who is still alive other than a few and that's the goal. Just bringing awareness.

>>14790418
>>14790480
Is that hi-res remake coming?

>>14790418
>No Longer Human is a minor classic
huh?

I am quite uncultured. What books do I need to read? Difficulty need not be taken into consideration.

>>14795560
I've read 12 years a slave. I was quite angry after putting down that book. Why didn't the blacks try to rebel?

>>14804869
I know, I'm a philosophy major and people often bring that book when I tell them that.
>>14802274
It's not ad hominem and I don't think you fully understand what that means. I'm saying that this is a stupid chart that doesn't reflect anything about /pol/ but is rather a random set of generic choices that don't tie in with one another. Schopenhauer and Hegel are separate branches of philosophy, they were personally opposed literally in their lifetime.
But you're not addressing this point, of course, just know that in dismissing the point with an accusation of a fallacy you are committing a fallacy.

And I'll go a step further - this is a stupid western philosophy primer. It's one thing if you want to go a certain way for a certain purpose but that's not what this chart is, it's all over the place for the sake of a general initiation to western philosophy and for that it's fucking terrible. It leaves out Descartes, who is a fundamental step in the development of western philosophy - the BEGINNING of western philosophy as far as most are concerned - in the same way that Hume and Kant were fundamental steps, such that ignoring them is to be missing essential context for everything written around the period.
Understanding western philosophy proper suggests a curriculum that goes Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Locke, maybe Spinoza for a specific interests in certain later philosophers, maybe Leibniz, Hobbes and maybe Rousseau if you're actually /pol/, Hume, and then Kant.
And after Kant do whatever the fuck you want honestly

>>14789195
As a fellow (very softcore) anti-theist, I agree

Minor classics remake part one

>>14810423
part 2

>>14810423
>>14810437
Thank you based anon

>>14810559
np, do you have your eye on any of these fine books?

>>14810592
Maldoror and Sixty Stories have been on my mind for a while, but most of the books on the chart look pretty interesting to me
By the way, a suggestion I have for the chart is Dictionary of the Khazars

>>14810597
Both those books are great and mind expanding. I have Khazars on my list to read it looks cool

>>14810041
you are wrong about Kafka.

>>14810057
Please respond, /lit/

>>14789405
You're 22 man, pretending to be some old man doesn't lend any credibility or wit to your insults

>>14810041
how dare you call lil b the based god a hack

>>14811594
The problem of "being uncultured" is broad, but since you've politely asked again, I'll offer my advice. If you want to appear cultured, or leagues better, BE cultured, all you have to do is read, compare, and criticality look at works which represent the philosophies and ideas that dominate your culture. Doing this doesn't require esoteric or lengthy texts, it requires the opposite: books everyone talks about, which are often easy to read. Below is my best shot at a list of these kinds of books.

Symposium, Plato
Meditations, Marcus Aurelius
Meditations on First Philosophy, Descartes
Picture of Dorian Gray, Oscar Wilde
Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
1984, George Orwell
The Death of Ivan Illych, Tolstoy

It's not a glamorous list, but I think it fits your criteria. Remember the most important thing is not to inhale every page, but criticality consider and connect ideas the works present. Reading books isn't by itself isn't half of "being cultured," but you can't do without it, and if you're going to read to be cultured, the above is a good starting place.

>>14811354
I love this list, man. It must have taken forever to make, but it's so fun to look through it. The topics it's breadth covers are so disparate, but they're placed together as if they have everything in the world in common. I'll keep coming back to it for a long while for recommendations, I think.

>>14789419

>The Italian

...what happens in this one?

chart on the patristics?
kinda useless with the Catena but I digress

>>14789134
>no Rawls
>no Keynes
>no Milton friedman
>Marx
>no critique of political economy
>no on german ideology

cringe and old-pilled. These thinkers are less influencial on modern society (except Marx) than a highschool educated youtuber.

>>14806828
>lacan
>marxist
Holy fuck cut your dick off

>>14789439
A lot of these aren't on libgen.

>>14808401
Probably the funniest book i've read

>>14814799
Holy shit, now I need to read this book. Had no interest before, but now I needs it in my life

>>14810274
the name "essential of western philosphy" is a bad one, but the books are more relevant than philopshy prior to nineteenth century

>>14807375
Good post then. kudos to you. Good introduction for someone who has not been into it and wants to understand, not specificly believe.

Its hard for people to walk that line. Its usually fedora tipper or true believer.

>>14789238
Orthobro here, I just watched Ostrov and it was beautiful, is Andrei Rublev as good?

>>14811787
Thank you anon. I'll add those to my reading list and make sure to reflect on the books carefully.

Any comments on this order? I've read a lot of different views on what the reading order should be but this one seems solid.

>>14789110
Anybody have the Icelandic literature chart? I saw it popping around here and there but forgot to save it

>>14815637
Where the fuck is Tintin

any charts or guides for war philosophy. ive read 7 millitary classics of ancient china

>>14789141
Been meaning to get into PKD's later works, read a lot of his more normie/ traditional sci-fi stuff years ago

>>14789780
Bloom
Don Quixote
HCE
Bardamu
nuff said

>>14815637
i never see dylan dog in comics lists

>>14815391
YES.

>>14791123
>>14791126
who has the time to slog through these charts

>>14804910
How does one get out of the hole of being a chaaarter? Should I just forsake charts and read random shit, or actually try to sit down and read a large selection of books from a chart?
Does anyone even use these charts for actual reading?

>>14793914
please explain his chart, is this for an initiate to mystery religion or to understand how our overlords think?

>>14794420
no thanks schizo

>>14789238
Based except for trotsky

>>14817006
this is some thelemical reading list
http://www.outercol.org/htmldoc/curriculum.html

>>14789110

>>14817004
Start reading what you have, whatever interests you. Get into the habit of reading regularly.
Then, if you want to tackle charts, buy the first book in one you like. Read it. And if you feel like continuing, continue. If you don't, try something else. Or, read it, chew on it for a while, and if you keep thinking about it on your own, try pursuing more.

>>14817210
Whoever made this chart clearly doesn't actually care about art lol

>>14817279
it would be based if both "sides" had their representative best instead of the memes
even better if the left only showed what at the time was considered good.

>>14789428
I like to imagine some poor kid somewhere actually believes this chart and leaves with the most insane mix of ideologies. Truly, it would be a mind to behold.

>>14789134
>/pol/ reading chart
>implying /pol/ reads
kek

>>14797709
impoversed philosophy of science section.

>>14818020
Suggestions welcome. Have any more

>>14789204
if you read all of these you can reforge wittgenstein like he's exodia the forbidden one

>>14789141
>Read VALIS
>Thought it was a big nothing burger

Newfag here. All of these charts are fancy and all, but how the fuck do I even read books? I've been reading the same one since June.

>>14789229
Petersburg was like reading the Russian Ulysses's, I felt like I wouldn't get 3/4 the references unless I lived there and then and was a scholar.

>>14818974
fuck it. roll

>>14793169
Needs Tigerforce

>>14811354
I'm retarded. Do I read the outer most books for a sense of what the inner ones build on or what?

>>14810395
this makes me wanna vomit

>>14817407
yeaa no thanks kek

>>14819103
Do you change pages?

>>14814007
There's a chart for that >>14819103

>>14819185
These HP charts are hilarious, I genuinely cannot tell if the author is being serious or not.

>>14820839
>I genuinely cannot tell if the author is being serious or not.

>>14820839
JKR is on of the GOATs, you clearly should follow the chart if you dont know this

>>14790735
>start with Capital
>then move to GITS

What idiot made this chart?

>>14820839
I bet you read Thus Spoke Zarathustra first too you fucking pleb

>>14818974
This is actually an interesting if not off topic chart

I've seen it in a few politics charts here and when does the Wealth of Nations get more interesting? I'm about 100 pages in and it just seems like Econ 101 stuff.

>>14811354
>>14819174
I was wondering the same thing.

>>14789428
What’s Nozick doing there?

Is there a chart that covers whatever the Unabomber believed?

>>14822329
He wrote a couple books, so how about you go read those. You can find free PDFs of those easy.

>>14815391
a lot of nudity, not good viewing during Lent.

>>14789110
Sorry my chart is shit, but here's mine

>>14800175
4 hour life read lindyman

>>14822735
Nudity is natural. Sex too, as long as it's for procreation.