/lit/ - Literature

Ooo.. who will win? /lit/'s misogyny or elitism?

>>14859521
I appreciate him for being a loser who made it big when he was a geezer, but he's not the best

>>14859521
>have any of you even read any of his collections of poetry?
>he's based.
ask and you shall receive:

schoolgirls in pantyhose
sitting on bus stop benches
looking tired at 13
with their raspberry lipstick.
it’s hot in the sun
and the day at school has been
dull, and going home is
dull, and
I drive by in my car
peering at their warm legs.
their eyes look
away—
they’ve been warned
about ruthless and horny old
studs; they’re just not going
to give it away like that.
and yet it’s dull
waiting out the minutes on
the bench and the years at
home, and the books they
carry are dull and the food
they eat is dull, and even
the ruthless, horny old studs
are dull.

the girls in pantyhose wait,
they await the proper time and
moment, and then they will move
and then they will conquer.

I drive around in my car
peeking up their legs
pleased that I will never be
part of their heaven and
their hell. but that scarlet
lipstick on those sad waiting
mouths! it would be nice to
kiss each of them once, fully,
then give them back.
but the bus will
get them first.

>>14859521
I've been thinking for years that this guy and George Carlin were just one person

burning in water drowning in flame is great

>>14859635
damn this is great

>>14859635
based

>>14859635
this is so fkin relatable

>>14859521
I hate him because he's a jew.
Did I do good?

>>14861727
he is german

>>14859635
based and redpilled but simultaneously cringe and bluepilled.

>>14861769
Much worse then

>>14859521
ironically only women like bukowski

>>14861896
They like him for the same reason they like Vonnegut. Easy to read but still "deep".

>>14861961
no they like him for the same reason they like bad boys and guys that beat them up

>>14861896
Incel detected

>>14859521
literally anyone who is anyone is a misogynist. even women.

>>14861896
source?

>>14862073
well not literally only women but he's very popular amongst art hoes and college women

>>14862105
Well I still want a source

>>14862117
Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

>>14859521
>dude just don't try hard lmao

>>14861769
>His mother, Katharina Bukowski was the daughter of Wilhelm Fett and Nannette Israel, of Jewish origin[12]
He's a fucking kike

>>14862241

Nigga, these guys listen to fucking Sargon, Shapiro and Mr. Wash you penis with benzos. I can't imagine anyone here actually reading even half an abstract from a research paper.

>>14859635
Based.

I fucking hate this man. My ex gf would listen to recordings of him reading his useless work before sleep and then it would just keep playing all night. The amount of times ive woken up from my sweet dreams to hear this man talk about shitting himself is something that'll haunt me forever you fuckers

>>14862057
Honestly I know a ton of women who love Bukowski as well. I know very few writers that cross the gender divide as well as him.

>>14859521
A lot of vignette fluff interspersed with genuine gold; joins his austro-american fellow Plath in the pantheon. In a cohort of polymorphous-perverse draft-dodging poseurs, a surprisingly based boomer. His short stories deserve a better shake than the meme of him indicates.

well, they said it would come to
this: old. talent gone. fumbling for
the word

hearing the dark
footsteps, I turn
look behind me…

not yet, old dog…
soon enough

now
they sit talking about
me: “yes, it’s happened, he’s
finished… it’s
sad…”

“he never had a great deal, did
he?”

“well, no, but now…”

now
they are celebrating my demise
in taverns I no longer
frequent.

now
I drink alone
at this malfunctioning
machine

as the shadows assume
shapes
I fight the slow
retreat

now
my once-promise
dwindling
dwindling

now
lighting more cigarettes
pouring new
drinks

it has been a beautiful fight
still is

Bukowski is so moé.

>>14862895
14 is indeed prime.

>>14864000
cucked

>>14859635
nig is based
respect

>>14861122
ya I kno right? your a thirteen year old girl too?

>>14864000
Holy fuck why am I laughing so hard?

This nigga is so horrible though. Ham on rye is unironically like Portrait of the artist as a young man without the flair. Liking him is the ultimate pleb call

>>14866274
that's a book though

I've come to realize that the neet shut ins on this board could never comprehend his gritty life.

>>14866256
uh...no

>>14859635
what did he mean by this?