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Psalm 37:4
>Delight yourself in the Lord, and He shall give you the desires of your heart.

Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and lean not to your own understanding. Acknowledge him in all your ways and he will direct your path. Proverbs 3

12 I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 I applied my heart to seek and to search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under the sky. It is a heavy burden that God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with. 14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and behold, all is vanity and a chasing after wind. 15 That which is crooked can’t be made straight; and that which is lacking can’t be counted. 16 I said to myself, “Behold, I have obtained for myself great wisdom above all who were before me in Jerusalem. Yes, my heart has had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.” 17 I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also was a chasing after wind. 18 For in much wisdom is much grief; and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

>>14884864
I hate christcucks and the christian dogma but Christ himself seems to have been such a fine person. Just look at that painting. Very based.

>>14884864
>>14884898
At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

>>14884878
or

There is in her a spirit that is intelligent, holy,
unique, manifold, subtle,
mobile, clear, unpolluted,
distinct, invulnerable, loving the good, keen,
irresistible, 23 beneficent, humane,
steadfast, sure, free from anxiety,
all-powerful, overseeing all,
and penetrating through all spirits
that are intelligent, pure, and altogether subtle.
24
For wisdom is more mobile than any motion;
because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things.
25
For she is a breath of the power of God,
and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty;
therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her.
26
For she is a reflection of eternal light,
a spotless mirror of the working of God,
and an image of his goodness.
27
Although she is but one, she can do all things,
and while remaining in herself, she renews all things;
in every generation she passes into holy souls
and makes them friends of God, and prophets;
28
for God loves nothing so much as the person who lives with wisdom.
29
She is more beautiful than the sun,
and excels every constellation of the stars.
Compared with the light she is found to be superior,
30
for it is succeeded by the night,
but against wisdom evil does not prevail.

>>14884932
And as his parentage is, so also are his fortunes. In the first place he is always poor, and anything but tender and fair, as the many imagine him; and he is rough and squalid, and has no shoes, nor a house to dwell in; on the bare earth exposed he lies under the open heaven, in-the streets, or at the doors of houses, taking his rest; and like his mother he is always in distress. Like his father too, whom he also partly resembles, he is always plotting against the fair and good; he is bold, enterprising, strong, a mighty hunter, always weaving some intrigue or other, keen in the pursuit of wisdom, fertile in resources; a philosopher at all times, terrible as an enchanter, sorcerer, sophist. He is by nature neither mortal nor immortal, but alive and flourishing at one moment when he is in plenty, and dead at another moment, and again alive by reason of his father's nature. But that which is always flowing in is always flowing out, and so he is never in want and never in wealth; and, further, he is in a mean between ignorance and knowledge. The truth of the matter is this: No god is a philosopher. or seeker after wisdom, for he is wise already; nor does any man who is wise seek after wisdom. Neither do the ignorant seek after Wisdom. For herein is the evil of ignorance, that he who is neither good nor wise is nevertheless satisfied with himself: he has no desire for that of which he feels no want." "But-who then, Diotima," I said, "are the lovers of wisdom, if they are neither the wise nor the foolish?" "A child may answer that question," she replied; "they are those who are in a mean between the two; Love is one of them. For wisdom is a most beautiful thing, and Love is of the beautiful; and therefore Love is also a philosopher: or lover of wisdom, and being a lover of wisdom is in a mean between the wise and the ignorant. And of this too his birth is the cause; for his father is wealthy and wise, and his mother poor and foolish. Such, my dear Socrates, is the nature of the spirit Love. The error in your conception of him was very natural, and as I imagine from what you say, has arisen out of a confusion of love and the beloved, which made you think that love was all beautiful. For the beloved is the truly beautiful, and delicate, and perfect, and blessed; but the principle of love is of another nature, and is such as I have described."

>>14884927
This is why I hate christcucks. I'm sure you have humbled yourself so much that you never cease to look for possible converts. You know the absolute truth about the world so much that you feel the need to preach it, at the same time, I'm sure you are very highly extremely humble.

>>14884949
the Bible commands us to spread the gospel. You would be just as infuriated if we were supposed to do the opposite. Why shouldn’t we spread the message of salvation? It would be awfully inconsiderate to withhold that message if it is true

I like this one whenever people say Jesus was pacifist and that Christians should be too:
>Matthew 10:34 (KJV)
>Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

>>14884864
"no, your parents don't want you,that's why they died, you're going to live with me now, in my shed under the bridge, do you know what sex is?"
"...."

>>14884980
>the Bible commands us to spread the gospel.
Not true. Jesus says of the gentiles
"go nowhere near them."

>>14884871
I've been a student of idiosyncratic comparative religion for a decade and ideas like this are present across many of the major traditions and I often run into a roadblock where it seems like you're just fooling yourself into devoting yourself to God to get your tiny desires fulfilled. I'm aware that's a smolbrain interpretation and at my best moments I've understood the nearly transcendent nature of having paltry needs met when focused on something massive, but it still seems like a technique fraught with self-deception possibilities

>>14885018
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

>>14885052
>>14885018

Contradictions.

>>14884864
To everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven

I like this,

12:43
You fumble around in bed; Sabellines, you talk too much and fuck too little. In the southern provinces they know what to with the overly effeminate girls and boys who shy away from fucking; Sabellus you realize this puts you lower on the bar than a Dindymus?!

>>14885094
You’re referring to the time before Jesus was crucified, when he gave specific instructions to his disciples, to spread the news of the Messiah. There are different contexts here. Easy.

>>14885136
OOHHHHH
i see, so when that bit we know didn't happen, when he came back from the dead, he changed his mind completely about that. Right, makes sense.

See this is why many Christians are Paulines who are serving the devil.

"go. nowhere!
NEAR. THE. GENTILES!"

>>14885094
sic et non

>>14885194
carthago delenda est

>>14884941
When Plato is talking about God and heaven, to which God is he referring?

>>14885157
So Jesus is God, but you dont believe in the resurrection?

>>14885388
nous

>>14884864
James,a servant of Godand of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribesscatteredamong the nations:
Greetings.

It's very handsome because James greets people

>>14884878
Echlesiastes is unironically the final redpill. After reading it for the first time everything seemed clear as glass to me. Feels like, ultimately, all we seek is cope.

Jeremiah 8:20 KJV
> The harvest is past, The summer is ended, And we are not saved!

>>14884864
>Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?
>In that hour Jesus said to the crowd, "Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come out with swords and clubs to capture me? Every day I sat in the temple courts teaching, and you did not arrest me.
Jesus pointing out that if he was only human they could have caught him earlier. Literally BTFOs atheists thousands of years before they come up with all their dumb theories

>>14886769

Matthew 1:2-16
>Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram, and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, and Jesse the father of David the king. And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah, and Solomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph, and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah, and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,[c] and Amos the father of Josiah, and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon. And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoniah was the father of Shealtiel, and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor, and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud, and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.

Spell-binding stuff

>>14884864
>There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
Good ol' Ezekiel 23,20.

From Hebrews 4
>14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

>15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

>16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

>>14885415
>So Jesus is God, but you dont believe in the resurrection?
If Jesus even was a real person he was a teacher and a thinker, like Socrates or Confucius or Diogenes, which is far superior to him as a crazy street preacher. That's my stance on the thing.

But it seems very off that when he "comes back from the dead" that he's changed his mind about some of the wiser things he said, after all it's not his mind to change, if as he said all he could do was say what God wanted him to say.

>>14886769
>Literally BTFOs atheists
I don't see how, I mean, Theists are persecuting Jesus over their Theism. Jesus is an atheist to them.

And that point is proven in all the religious persecution and murder that followed for the next millenia and a half.

Ezekial 23:11-21
>Oholibah saw this, and she became more corrupt than her sister[b] in her lust and in her whoring, which was worse than that of her sister. 12 She lusted after the Assyrians, governors and commanders, warriors clothed in full armor, horsemen riding on horses, all of them desirable young men. 13 And I saw that she was defiled; they both took the same way. 14 But she carried her whoring further. She saw men portrayed on the wall, the images of the Chaldeans portrayed in vermilion, 15 wearing belts on their waists, with flowing turbans on their heads, all of them having the appearance of officers, a likeness of Babylonians whose native land was Chaldea. 16 When she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoring lust. And after she was defiled by them, she turned from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her whoring so openly and flaunted her nakedness, I turned in disgust from her, as I had turned in disgust from her sister. 19 Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. 21 Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts.”

the part when saint stephen calls out the jews in acts 7 is epic

Psalm 133:
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

>>14887756
What is it you don't understand?

Malick's a hidden life starts with one of the best bible verses I've read but I can't remember what it was
Can someone help me out? I can't find it online and can't download the movie at the moment

More than a passage but this was legit terrifying, and I understand this is a literary synthesis not literal but perhaps euhemerist, allegorical, etc, but I love it in all those ways.

>Genesis 18:15
But Sarah denied it, saying, “I did not laugh,” for she was afraid.
And He said, “No, but you did laugh!”

>>14886769
Based

Deuteronomy 4,
Matthew 10,
John 16,
Philemon,
Hebrew 12,

Matthew 7:26
"And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there”

>>14888586
pls respond

>>14888942
powerful

To the Christian/Catholic in this thread, how do you become religious and keep believing regardless of the people that say otherwise? I'm an atheist that wants to become religious but don't really know how or were to start.

>>14890921
Pensées by Pascal and actually reading the Bible and apologetics

>>14890921
Read the Gospels of the New Testament first. If you are into philosophy and evidence then also look at the work of William Lane Craig.

>>14884985
Jesus spoke in parables bro

>>14888022
as i said
>Theists are persecuting Jesus over their Theism. Jesus is an atheist to them.

Clearly if anything is to be taken from the story it's that Theists are fucking evil people who kill good people over petty made up nonsenses, and this adds up with the rest of the sad history of that religion.

So, no, it doesn't "BTFO Atheists," quite the opposite.

What is it you can't see about what the Pharisees and the RELIGIOUS MOB (i.e. a superficially pious congregation) did to Jesus, killing him horribly, and what the Catholic and Orthodox Churches did to a thousand other Men and Women for the same reasons?

That's a HUGE glaring point against your theology which is obvious as fuck.

You devil worshipper you

>>14890921
read St. Augustine.

>>14891373
St Augustine never even had sex with a Woman, anon. How much did he ever really know about anything?

>>14891338
Right I get what you mean now.
>Theists are persecuting Jesus over their Theism. Jesus is an atheist to them.
Obviously they knew he was God's son. They didn't deny his miracles, instead they claimed he got his powers from demons. That's why they wanted to kill Lazarus and Jesus, to hide the evidence
>killing him horribly, and what the Catholic and Orthodox Churches did to a thousand other Men and Women for the same reasons?
They're not real Christians because they're not following his example.

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’

>That's a HUGE glaring point against your theology
It's not. God even says what's gonna happen right from the beginning
>He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel
So this prophecy is 50% complete. In the future Jesus will kill Satan and he will die permanently.
>And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Notice the false prophet? False religions will also be destroyed permanently and never come back again. So the bible doesn't say all religion is good

>>14884949
I fail to see how someone that believes that the universe has been created by a god who "loves" his creations to the greatest extent and wants to live with them for all eternity, who knows god exists unlike all the non-believers are basically damned

is more humble than

an atheist who takes the more socratic view, essentially admits that they have no idea what's going on. how is that not humble

>>14891434
Socrates upholds faith in Meno

>>14886801
>he doesn't see any significance to Matthew drawing the lineage of Jesus back to Abraham

People like you are why the Church was justified keeping Bibles untranslated and chained up. Its right there and you don't see it.

Not really a Christian anymore but I think about this a lot for some reason
Matthew 16:24-26

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

>>14891413
Ah yes, the humble mind-reader. Truly we should bow before your omniscience.

>>14891547
Only god can read minds, anon

>>14887728
When hes alive he says the Jews arent special, and that proximity to God comes from faith and virtue, not blood. He also says numerous times that hes the son of God, and one with God, and many of his personal followers were killed because they claimed this as well. The idea that Jesus being divine was a retcon is simply retarded. And if Jesus wasn't God, then he was a mere schizo and not a wise preacher

>Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:22
This is one of my favorite quotes since it really lays into those dirty goyims and makes sure they forever know their place in the world.

When Jesus compares goyims to subhuman dogs is pretty nice too.

>>14891434
>>14891452
Meno: Somehow or other I believe you are right.

Socrates: I think I am. I shouldn’t like to take my oath on the whole story, but one thing I am ready to fight for as long as I can, in word and act—that is, that we shall be better, braver, and more active men if we believe it right to look for what we don’t know than if we believe there is no point in looking because what we don’t know we can never discover.

Paraphrased, Socrates’ point is if being better, braver, and more active are among our desires, and if believing that inquiry is permissible facilitates our becoming better, braver, and more active, then we have reason, pragmatic reason, to believe that inquiry is permissible. Socrates’ argument is an argument for the permissibility of a certain belief, based on the benefits of believing that certain belief. Pragmatic arguments are practical in orientation, justifying actions that are thought to facilitate the achievement of our goals, or the satisfaction of our desires. If among your goals is A, and if doing such and such results in your achieving A, then, all else being equal, you have reason to do such and such:

Doing α brings about, or contributes in bringing about, β, and
It is in your interest that β obtain. So,
you have reason to do α.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pragmatic-belief-god/

>>14891434
>a god who "loves" his creations to the greatest extent and wants to live with them for all eternity
He have a weird way of showing it.

No one would say a mother love her creations if she decides to drown a few of them.
>inb4 free will so it was the child's fault for being retarded
cringe

>>14891597
Looking is the opposite of Christian submissive blind faith.

>>14891635
>No one would say a mother love her creations if she decides to drown a few of them.
It’s common for mothers to throw their infants into water, so that they may learn to swim on their own if they ever fell into water with no one to help.

>>14891594
Excellent choices, the goy love to ignore those lines

>Wherefore is there a price in a fool's hand to get knowledge, seeing he hath no heart for it?

Paraphrasing but that's from proverbs IIRC

>>14891639
praying is looking. And as Socrates later says,

>>14891635
If they disappointed her enough by say, raping her entire family, I'd say the drowning was love enough

>>14891647
Socrates and Meno now face a final problem: they have concluded both that virtue cannot be taught and that it is not innate (both parties agree that neither knowledge nor true opinion can be innate). So, returning to the question that opened the dialogue, how do men become virtuous? Plato (through Socrates) is content to leave this a mystery of sorts for now, concluding only that virtuous statesmen are only so through a sort of divine inspiration, like "soothsayers and prophets. They too say many true things when inspired, but they have no knowledge of what they are saying"

Thus, virtue is left as "a gift from the gods which is not accompanied by understanding." Though this deep uncertainty may not seem like much of an end to the dialogue, the apparent emptiness of Socrates' conclusion is mitigated by the importance of the lack of knowledge in and of itself. Socrates has succeeded in convincing two prominent citizens and men of politics not only that they have no understanding of virtue, but also that no one does. This state of uncertainty, or aporia, the state of knowing that one does not know, is a major Platonic theme, and clears the ground for the pursuit of a kind of truth far more exacting and rigorous than had been previously sought.

>>14884864
James 4: 17
>If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

I'm not even a christian and this changed my life.

>>14891661
much easier said than done though

>>14891663
True but when you serve god he helps you, that's why god is important. It's way harder to do good without god because then you're relying on your own strength

>>14891594
Yeah its pretty cool in John too when he explicitly blames the Jews for killing Jesus and not Pilate, and calls them the Synagogue of Satan right after the line you mention. How about you tell us who the "ye" is, in that sentence, my cherrypicking friend? Hint: the author of John hates Jews. He says that Christians are the successors to the covenant.

>>14891681
He blames the Temple, not Jews as a race

Spoilers; he was Jewish

>>14891688
>He blames the Temple, not Jews as a race
This is nonsense, you're making things up as you see fit. Over and over in John he argues with Jews on a racial bias, like when they claim that since they descend from Abraham they don't need to be freed, and he counters that they have sinned and are in bondage from sin. Or, when the Jews conspire against him for fear that he is teaching non-Jews. Which he was. Because the racial covenant was no longer a thing, since they had squandered it.

>Spoilers; he was Jewish
By birth, yes, but again, in John he claims that he predates Abraham. Spiritually he is a direct emissary of God, not of Judaism.

>>14891703
He never argues with them over race, he says that he will preach to the Gentiles (Greeks even at some point IIRC) instead, since they refuse to listen. Or maybe Paul, I forget really, but I know they never say Jews are bad at all just the Temple/Synagogue

Judaism is from God

>>14891413
But... anon, but... who's most likely to persecute and attack any teacher? If Jesus came along 9/10 would say any miraclework was themagic of the Anti-Christ, and then it'd be Pharisees all over again - and who would be inclined to attack a Jesus in the first place? Theists, for blasphemy, again. Not A-Theists, who don't even think or know or take seriously anything like that.

This is why I'm secular. It's actually the upper ground in favor of the Moral Man.

>>14891713
Paul makes a very similar point, yes, its one of the things he clashed with Peter over. And you're right, Judaism WAS from God until the arrival of Christ. In John especially, it is clear that the book-worshipping lawyers of the Pharisees and Sadducees no longer have a monopoly on God due to some racial covenant. The new covenant, if you want to think of it this way, decouples the idea of "Israel", literally as "chosen people" from the racial or religious identity of Judaism.

The Jews responded to this information by killing Jesus, waiting 300-400 years, and writing the Talmud, another book to worship which continues to rage impotently about the fact that Jesus was mean to them. They could have been included with everyone, but chose to be damned alone.

ed.
>>14891722
correction: it's not even 'most likely' because the churches have been slaughtering people in the same legal setting as the pharisees slaughtered Jesus, priests killed Jesus and did so with every 'heretic' they ever did kill or torture.

As an outsider, I wasn't raised anywhere near these things, I found it most incredible that they actually did to other people what they lament happened to the one guy they're supposed to follow.

It's like.. lol. there's one really big lesson to take away one day 1 of becoming a Christian, you'd think..

>>14891722
I'm sure you know that when people decides what's best for themselves they tend to look out for number 1. Prophecies show this. 2 tim 3:1-5

Evil in the Last Days

1But understand this: In the last days terrible times will come. 2For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, without love of good, 4traitorous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Turn away from such as these!

Correct me if I'm wrong but your argument seems to be that a lot of violence and wars have happened because of religion, which is true of course, but Armageddon is coming so god will put an end to religious wars and violence for good

>>14891727
Actually, you are wrong

>>14891781
Good point, now I see my error

>>14891788
The blind lead the blind again, no surprise there

>>14891759
...c'mon...... all time is the end times, then?

You see, this is why some people say...
...oh...
>but Armageddon is coming so god will put an end to religious wars and violence for good
...this is why some people say that all this religion is just one big death cult.

Imagine if some person came along, confirmed your biases and then had you start killing people. That's one path.

Another is to watch like every other doomsdayer throughout all space and time as the end of the world doesn't actually happen again.

>>14891892
Technically the Bible says at one point all life on Earth will be wiped out, not that there will be some glorious saving of some sect, just wanted to point that out

Also there is a guy in the old testament that just took an ox goad and killed like 300 people, gave no real reason or anything and he was counted a prophet... So yeah, the guy saying kill someone could be right, just saying

>>14891759
>Armageddon is coming
Armageddon has always been here, btw, geographically speaking.. it's the name of a valley in Assyria where the Hebrews were supposed to have fought and conquered the Assyrian Empire millenia ago.

>>14891905
I think the pain and confusion and monotony of living in the world with real people is more scary to some people than being burned to death by a giant meteor, whaddya think?

>>14891892
God isn't asking you to believe him without evidence. That's why there's so many prophecies in the bible.

“From the beginning I foretell the outcome, and from long ago the things that have not yet been done.”—Isaiah 46:10.

Now then, I will tell you the truth: Three more kings will arise in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. By the power of his wealth, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece.a

3Then a mighty king will arise, who will rule with great authority and do as he pleases. 4But as soon as he is established, his kingdom will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the authority with which he ruled, because his kingdom will be uprooted and given to others.

Greek king is Alexander of course. He had four generals.

>>14891914
Depends on the length of each

>>14891925
>God isn't asking you to believe him without evidence. That's why there's so many prophecies in the bible.

It's not 'God', it's your priests and other priests claiming to know what 'God' is all about.

If I were God I'd hate those people for preaching such evil and irrationality in my name.. your 'God', or their God or whatever, is obviously the Devil. It's not Good that they do, but Evil as they wear white and claim they're the good guys.

How do you deal with that baggage when your theological inheritance is the most evil and twisted one of all humans?

>>14891681
Yeah sorry but Jews didn't exist by then. Judaism wasn't created until 300 years after Jesus or some shit like that.

This is what all the trad larpers say. In between them blaming Jews for the killing of Jesus ofc. Christians aren't exactly the smartest people...

>>14891954
You can deny truth all you want. Anyone can study the prophecies and see that they are true.
>your 'God', or their God or whatever, is obviously the Devil
No. This is why things have escalated so much. Revelation 12

Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him

Satan and demons they know they're going to die. They want to cause as much suffering and chaos as possible. They know their time is almost up.
>You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.
They're scared shitless for what's about to happen. There's no escape for them. No mercy. No forgiveness.

>>14891983
>Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him
And so Amun, no longer welcome in Egypt and no longer Pharaoh, left Heaven and journeyed into the wastelands at the head of a band of runaway slaves and cut-throats.