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>word salad

>> No.15100285

>>15100213
>Categorical imperative

>> No.15100293

>>15100213
>pregnant pause

>> No.15100304

>>15100213
>summarize his argument in YOUR OWN words. No, I won’t read the book, I want you to tell me what’s in it so I don’t waste my time

>> No.15100945

>>15100213
Cathartic Banana

>> No.15100954

>>15100304
lmao sounds like someone namedrops a title but doesn't understand it well enough to explain the ideas

>> No.15100958

>>15100213
>let's unpack this

>> No.15100960

>>15100958
lolol

>> No.15100970

>>15100213
>Clown world

>> No.15100984

>pseud phrases

>> No.15100997

>>15100970
No one says that anymore

>> No.15101000

>>15100213
>AM radio

>> No.15101019

>>15100285
FUCK @

>> No.15101074

>>15100213
>I'm not religious

>> No.15101154

>>15100213
any of these
>qua
>vis-à-vis
>à propos
>milieu
>intelligentsia
>oeuvre
>jouissance
>sans
also watch out for frequent uses of "rather", "merely", and "necessarily"

>> No.15101182

>>15101154
Modifying words with rather in everyday speech to indicate intensity is fine, otherwise you're right

>> No.15101187

>>15101154
you're rather a dumb nigger, aren't you?

>> No.15101196

>>15101182
right, for the last three there's nothing wrong with the words by themselves, but they're pseud classics

>> No.15101207

>>15101154
there is no alternative for jouissance, though.

>> No.15101210

>>15101154
using foreign words or polysyllabic ones instead of a simple anglo-saxon ones is a great mark of a pseud

>> No.15101222

>>15100213
>crypto-synmeteoric

>> No.15101227

>>15101207
Unless you're being very specific with its use it's just a fancy way to say pleasure which is how most people use it

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>>15101154
ahhhhhh

>> No.15101233

>>15101207
yeah when you're talking in a specific context leaving words untranslated is useful. but jouissance (psychoanalytic terms in general, and more prominent with lacanian terms) are used by pseuds to sound smart when they try to interpret a movie or try to pathologize some social custom they don't like.

>> No.15101247

>>15101233
Lacan in general is the mark of a psued

>> No.15101293

>>15101233
>>15101247
Psychoanalysts as a whole are pseuds

>> No.15101656

Redpilled or anything-pilled

>> No.15101904

>>15100213
>the decline of western civilization

>> No.15101925

>>15100213
>Dunning-Kruger effect
Redditors love that one

>> No.15101964

>>15100213
Anything about psychology and psychoanalysis as being real and viable

>> No.15102073

>>15100213
>no man has any natural authority over his fellow men

>> No.15102104

>>15101232
I feel the same way. Big list of scary long words. I hate being a midwit.

>> No.15102139

>>15101154
>being French

>> No.15102144

>>15100213
>God is dead
>God is not real
>God doesnt exist

>> No.15102190

>>15101154
>oeuvre
Give me a fucking word to use instead then. I hate this word but there's nothing else. I'm don't want to have to say shit like "complete works" or "total literary output" every time I want to refer to an author's oeuvre. And before you say it, a bibliography is a list of works, not the works themselves.

>> No.15102240

>>15100954
this

>> No.15102248

>>15101154
>modality is for pseuds
the absolute state of this board

>> No.15102265

>>15101154
Qua qua qua is a legitimately useful word that has no concise replacement, even if pseuds tend to use it just to show off.

>> No.15102347

>>15100213
semiology
construct
critical theory
neo[anything]

>> No.15102577

>>15100213
>strawman fallacy

>> No.15102735 [DELETED] 

>the human conditions

>> No.15102739

>>15102347
neon

>> No.15102745

>the human condition

>> No.15102789

>Steelman
>Non-Sequitur

>> No.15103040

>>15101210

This. Latin vocabulary, passive constructions, redundancy inaccurate specialized words instead of accurate commonplace ones.

e.g.

>"Utilize"
instead of "Use"

>"Parameters"
instead of "Constraints"

>"Functionality"
instead of "use" or "usefulness" or "practicality"

etc
There are also a whole bunch of weasel phrases which have a legitimate function, but which are hugely over-used these days (especially in academic writing) as a way for the author to say something without admitting he's saying it:

>"It could be argued that..."
>"It has been suggested that..."
>"A common criticism is that..."

i.e. "I'm going to say this but pretend it's not me saying it."

>> No.15103063

>>15101925
This is probably the biggest offender in the thread

>> No.15103071
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15103071

>woo
>woo-meister

>> No.15103405

>>15100984
/thread

>> No.15103422

>>15101154
Milieu is okay, the rest are cringe

>> No.15103429

>>15102190
I felt this post

>> No.15103430

>>15100285
Lmao fuck you, dude

>> No.15103436

>>15100213
>pseud phrases
pseud

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15103437

>>15103040
Fuck

But i stand by my use of the term sui generis, that shit is useful

>> No.15103438

>>15101227
>it's just a fancy way to say pleasure
Given that joissaunce is actually more related to pain than pleasure, this couldn't be more inaccurate. People who use it in this reductive sense, absolutely, are pseuds. But when someone like Bataille talks about limit experiences, or Deleuze talks about the sado-masichistic BwO, then it absolutely has relevance.

>> No.15103442

>>15103430
Only incels take Kant seriously

>> No.15103450

>>15101925
do you find people use that expression a lot around you anon?
maybe you're actually just stupid

>> No.15103459

>>15103040
"parameters" and "functionality" have perfectly good uses which are not covered by your alternatives.

>> No.15103471

Pseud is the only word that clearly denotes a pseud

>> No.15103530

>>15102190
just say work or output, you faggot

>> No.15103555

>>15103450
Go back

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15103616

>>15100213
Society

>> No.15103855

>>15101925
How else do you concisely point out when someone is being a midwit about a topic they obviously just started studying?

>> No.15103870

>>15102190
>the author’s canon
>the author’s corpus
>the author’s output
>the author’s works
Many choice

>> No.15104097

>>15100213
On the left we have Galileo, on the right we have Jesus. Galileo's favorite asshole cleanser.

>> No.15104112

>>15100213
Can we please explain why Rodwell fucked up the entire measuring system with Imperial measurements.

>> No.15104122

>>15101154
What word should be used instead of necessarily?

>> No.15104192

>>15101154
Based

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15104235

>>15100213
>>15100958
>Metaphorical Substrate
>True Enough
>Tread lightly, bucko
>Ethos, Intrinsic Meaning, Knee-chuh...

>> No.15104260

>>15102190
>Writes an entire book to explain why he doesn’t want to write more than the word “orderve”
Midwit

>> No.15104275

>>15102190
Body of work or corpus, you low verbal IQ faggot

>> No.15104297

>>15101154
Leave milieu out of this.

>> No.15104320

>>15103040
There's nothing wrong with any of these. They have a semantic domain beyond the alternatives you gave.

>as a way for the author to say something without admitting he's saying it:
How else are you supposed to descriptively explain criticisms, as a matter of information?
>it could be argued that Kant was wrong, according to some empiricists...
is better than
>But Kant was wrong on this subject based on...
if the goal is informational, and not argumentative.

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>>15100213
>this model predicts

>> No.15104398

>>15100213
>reification

>> No.15104406

>>15101904
kike detected

>> No.15104653

>>15101074
>I'm spiritual but I'm not religious

>> No.15104666

>>15100213
>western civilisation

>> No.15104680

>>15102144
Only the last two are bad. The first is only bad when it's used out of context

>> No.15104682

>>15101232
Small French words are totally acceptable, it just depends on the context and the frequency of use. I am pretty sure the implied context here is a scrawny teenager inserting these words into casual conversation.

Potentially of interest to this thread:
https://github.com/amperser/proselint

A linter for prose, if you have interest in a program that pesters you about weasel word use, excessive Latin phrases, etc.

>> No.15104692

>>15100213
>Low IQ
>Midwit

>> No.15104986

>>15103071
Bunk, debunked

>> No.15105396

>>15100213
imagine not realizing that normal people consider the word "intellectual" to be insult enough on its own

>> No.15106180

>>15100213
>post-hoc

>> No.15106204

Having worked closely with alzheimer's dementia patients, I can confidently say that the phrase "word salad" is incredibly misused.

>Do you have the pat I need to pace my shed? The pert's broke and I need gum.

>> No.15106221

ITT: people who have been utterly BTFO by me recounting the words I utilize in my posts.

>> No.15106390

>>15106221
lol, but why not use, "diction," instead of that last phrase with the awkward use of, "utilize," in it?

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15107449

>slippery slope
>naturalistic fallacy

>> No.15107467

I hate how anglos are the least philosophical creed in the history of western civilization, they must invent inplausible empirical reasons for everything and dismiss everything that is speculative as insane

>> No.15107515

>>15101154
>rather
Nothing wrong with it.
>merely
No heresy.
>intelligentsia
If you mean the word that refers to agencies or groups of people, I'm not really sure what lead you to consider it pseud, but whatever you say. However, if you mean the Latin word "intelligentia" then you suck a big fat cock.

>> No.15107563

>>15103855
not him but when someones talking about topics I know a lot more than them about and they're getting stuff wrong I usually call them poo poo brains then tell them why they're wrong

>> No.15107590

>>15107467
>creed

>> No.15107643

>>15107590
what I meant was something like a cultural firmware

>> No.15107651

>>15103855
Just tell them that you both know that they don't know shit about the topic at hand and they should shut up to save face.

>> No.15107978

>>15100213
>ITT: Psued phrases
"what I meant was something like a cultural firmware"

>> No.15108580

>>15101154
so you just hate french? One could apply the same to latin inclusions.

>> No.15108592

>>15104692
Reddwit

>> No.15108623

>>15101074
>organized religion

As if they’ve thought long and hard and are on with unorganized religion

>> No.15109291

>tautology
Peak Big Bang theory

>> No.15109331

>>15100213
Fallback for any lowlevel humanities exam

>perhaps we're confusing an empirical issue with an ontological one

>> No.15109361

>>15109291
It is what it is

>> No.15109366

>>15100213
>Kali Yuga

>> No.15109393

>bodies and spaces

>> No.15109415

>>15100213
>spheres
>circles

>> No.15109435

Systemic

>> No.15109597

>>15100213
>White fragility
>Patriarchy
>Toxic masculinity
>Heteronormativity

>> No.15109641

>>15101925
this holy shit

>> No.15109695

>>15109597
>Lived Experience

>> No.15109711

>>15101925
is the dunning kruger effect the perfect example of the dunning kruger effect?

>> No.15109729
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>bon mot

>> No.15109758

basic and overdone but:
>racism
Just give up on this word. Seriously, we don't need it. Nobody can agree on what it means so it's useless. Not for lack of synonyms either

>> No.15109775

>>15109711
I think so

>> No.15109793

>>15100213
>Scientific Literature

>> No.15109869

>gay
>straight
>bi

>> No.15109874

>>15100213
This video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbrFHcueCMw

>> No.15109942

>>15103040
Fucking this. I'm not exactly sure why this is but one of the most egregious features of empty corporate-speak is that the word "use" in place of "utilized" is practically banned. Guarantee if you spent hours on linkedin or some shit you couldn't find "used" used once. Similar for all your other examples.

>> No.15109961

>>15103040
How else do you provide counterarguments?

>> No.15109971

>>15109874
Unironically based

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>>15100213
>Ad hominem
The fact that no one has said it yet is baffling.

>> No.15109991

>>15100213
>mental masturbation

>> No.15110002

>>15104680
Yeah. The death of God is a very interesting thought. But edgy teenagers think it is a cool way of saying God doesn't exist.

>> No.15110017

>>15100213
>Neoliberalism
Pseuds love this term because it lets them bundle together and condemn any selection of things they don't like from Wall Street to Kissinger to Trump to Tony Blair under a single broad ideological critique and thereby avoid having to do any actual critical intellectual work - they imagine that these things all share some broad, vague, but nevertheless inherently contaminated immaterial basis, which saves them having to engage with material reality,

>> No.15110027

>>15103040
"use" "constraint", "practicality" are also Latin, you stupid retard lmao

>> No.15110034

>>15109981
sounds like you lost an online argument kek cope

>> No.15110036

>>15110034
Ad hominem

>> No.15110038

>>15100213
>reactionary
>you do realize

>> No.15110040

>>15100958
Sam Harris every episode 2-4 years ago

>> No.15110043

>>15110017
It's just a euphemism for globalism friend

>> No.15110050

>>15110017
>inherently contaminated immaterial basis,

>> No.15110082

>The
>Be
>To
>Of
>And
>A

>> No.15110123

>>15110050
fair enough I kek'd. You know what I mean though. For some, if anything can be characterised as neoliberal then that automatically counts as winning the argument against it. The problem is the term is just too vague and broad.

>> No.15110157

>>15103040
haven't seen such pseudery in a while. Others have pointed out your mistakes. Like an NPC, you cannot reach the edge of the playing field, let alone comprehend the activities that happen beyond the purview of your little tribe. Stick to STEM, for your own sake.

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>Hegelian Dialectic
or any philosophical concept borrowed from video games in general

>> No.15110169

>>15110040
you watched his episodes? lmeo

>> No.15110173

>>15110166
the dialectic predates video games

>> No.15110176

>>15110173
yes but every cunt under the sun think that they're some genius for playing Fallout: NV

>> No.15110186

>Quantum physics tells us

>> No.15110190

>>15103442
Literally everyone in the modern world is a Kantian

>> No.15110197

>>15100213
Butthurt Hegelian detected

>> No.15110201

>>15110176
I refuse to acknowledge anyone who plays videogames

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>>15110201
Based, also
>Based

>> No.15110391

>cringe
>redpilled
>this

>> No.15110675

>logos
>infallible, omnipotent and omniscient
>genetically determined
>white identity