/lit/ - Literature

>>15131122
No. Its just a meme bro, don't take it too seriously.

Also influenced post-modernism and nihilism so I'm going to say yeah he was

>>15131122
ITT retards memeing to make me waste my time while attempting to read his garabage

Catholicucks and AmeriProts hate Hegel.
He made explicit the true core of Christianity, what should've been were it not for Paul's infiltration of the Church.
Hermetic-scientific Lutheranism ftw

>>15131122
The reason is that he disavowed individuality, and placed society and community over all. It went against everything the logos had built up. Thus when implemented into a complex system like human society it crumbled.

>>15131122
>fascism
>evil

Fascism doesn't let me consooooom and coom to trap porn WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

Hegel was the only man who understood God. This was the second coming of Christ as we crucified him.

>>15131272
Fascist nations weren't against consuming and transgender pornography.

>>15131278
Fascism is anti-materialist and anti-degeneracy (both transgenderism and pornography).

>>15131265
>he disavowed individuality
That's not really true. He thought individuals would flourish better under a healthy society rather than trying to go lone wolf.

>>15131122
>Pretty much every evil philosophy like communism and fascism comes from him

>>15131283
>this is what stormcucks actually believe

fascism, communism and nazism come from marx not hegel :)

>>15131283
Starting a war that drags in the entire world and genocide is as degenerate as it gets

>>15131302
Marx from Hegel from Kant who in turn came from Jupiter

>>15131301
UK started the war though. Also >muh 6 gorillion

>>15131292
I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a Ba'athist.

>>15131310
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

>>15131316
Nice wikipedia link, redditor.

>>15131122

His long-winded and technical ramblings in the end enabled philosophers after him to separate spirit and soul of man from reason and in effect desecrate the essence of humanity. The theme of Phenomenology, despite its difficult language and heavy theory, aims at nothing less than capturing the essence of the indescribable and encapsulating it as a form of knowledge. By materalizing the idea of the spirit and transforming it into knowledge, he delivered a blow to mysticism of past ages and enabled the dehumanizing thought to arise in philosophy.
While others took those ideas and ran with them, separating man and spirit from each other by creating a gulf of theoretical ramblings in between that are an anathema to reason and orderly life in reality, but are seducing on their own to the mind.
Nietzche alone noticed the nihilism rising out of Hegelian thought and sought to combat it - making an effective dent in the whole structure but unfortunately unable to beat the beast.

His absolutist categorization of knowledge and methods of inquiry stripped the truly human element that was required in systems of morality, and delivers a soulless, purist view of the world that corrupts the observer of the real, as opposed to being informed by observations from outside and modified accordingly.
Fuck Hegel.

>>15131336
sorry its not breitbart

>>15131341
>implying i accept jewish israeli sources

>>15131340
>muh humanity

This isn't Dark Souls nigger

>>15131353
Not going to argue with an obvious anti-semite conspiracy theorist

>>15131361
Don't care, didn't ask, plus you're a bluepilled tranny.

>>15131355
No, it isn't, which is why purist, reductionist ideas shouldn't be applied in real life.

>>15131122
Every bad thing that stemmed from Hegel was a gross misinterpretation. Hegel was a theologian and his theories of the state and of the soul are centered around gnosticism and neoplatonism. Marx attempted to extend Henosis to reality with communism and in doing so extended that which is antithetical to it

No one understand Hegel's works because no one understands hegel

>>15131122
Yes.

>>15131122
Communism came from Hegel ultimately but fascism came from a mix of Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and Fichte.

Both ultimately came from Kant.

>>15131122
>Hegel's philosophy comes from Hegel

>>15131122
the Liberal state also comes from Hegel, he's just influential. Furthermore, it is common of leftist( like OP) to judge someone by only their impact instead of a pursuit for truth.

>>15131625
>Leftist
>Sees communist ms as evil
He's either baiting or something like a liberal

>>15131643
>leftist
>one homogeneous unit
the plural/egalitarian divide collapsed leftism

>>15131643
Im apolitical

>>15131625
It is just common in general.
For example, the single most common way to critique Marx while sidestepping the need to read him is to point out that his writings had "bad consequences" and are therefore harmful or at best merely useless to read.
Left-wingers are, in a similar way, content with saying that Heidegger was a national socialist, and therefore useless to read.
It is a terrible custom and I hope that we will be rid of it as soon as possible. But I doubt it.

>>15131671
If you're not anti-capitalist you can't be a leftist (although it's not the case that all ant-capitalists are leftists). Left-anarchists, post-leftists, etc have to not be such rubes that they disavow communism in totality or they're not anti-capitalist enough to qualify.

some hardcore fucking brainlets in this thread jesus christ

>>15131292
Fascism is literally anti-materialism. It's idealism.

>>15131717
>If you're not anti-capitalist you can't be a leftist
by what metrics are you gauging this. i dont disagree, just curious

>>15131283
>Fascism is anti-materialist
No it fucking isn't, it seeks to concentrate materialist power while telling people it doesn't actually matter because muh national spirit is what truly matters, now shut up and work until your backs break you fucking proles.

>>15131310
>UK started the war though
You're an utter moron. It makes me fucking embarrassed to think we belong to the same cultural sphere. Do you even have a brain?

>>15131122
Nah, Kant is actually the root of all evil in philosophy. He's still pretty based, though.

>>15131808
Imo politics should be categorized vaguely by which material interests groups are advocating for and I therefore would categorize someone being pro-capitalism and someone being anti-capitalist as being in the same broad category unless we were just defining things by taxonomy

>>15131871
Wouldn't*

>>15131122
>Is Hegel the most destructive philosopher ever? Pretty much every evil philosophy like communism and fascism comes from him.
In fact, Communism and fascism both reject hegelianism. What does that says about Hegel?

Hegel was banned by the nazis for his unpatriotic views (he praised Napoleon and his conquer of Prusia).
Carl Schmitt said the day Hitler was ellected Chanciller that, in some form, Hegel "died" that day.
Anarchism, socialism already existed before the left-wing hegelians used their ideas.
almost every marxist philosopher intentionally misreads Hegel to make it fit a certain narrative (as a precursor of Marx)

note: "influence" is the term pseuds use when writing their opinions about the history of thought.

>>15131694
this is because civilization as cultured was unscalable, and now we're starting from the lowest common denominator globally, maybe in a 500 years philosophy and theoretical critique will come back

>>15131340
this is a clear example of someone who has only read secondary literature and thinks that he knows Hegel.
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His long-winded and technical ramblings in the end enabled philosophers after him to separate spirit and soul of man from reason and in effect desecrate the essence of humanity. The theme of Phenomenology, despite its difficult language and heavy theory, aims at nothing less than capturing the essence of the indescribable and encapsulating it as a form of knowledge.
that's not the Science of Logic, not Phenomenology, dumbass.
>Nietzche alone noticed the nihilism rising out of hegelian thought
this is an intentionally misleading take on nihilism. you said nothing about hegel or nietzsche here so there is nothing to refute.
>His absolutist categorization of knowledge and methods of inquiry stripped the truly human element
now this is a serious bastardization and proof that this guy hasn't read the Preface to the PoS seriously.
> purist view of the world that corrupts the observer of the real, as opposed to being informed by observations from outside and modified accordingly.
has no idea what the PoS is about, probably hasn't ever heard of the Lectures on the Philosophy of World History.
You don't only get everything wrong about hegel but also show no sign of caring about misleading others with your limited underestanding of him.

>>15131844
>Plato*

>>15131694
that's true, many criticize Marx on his results. Marx was wrong in theory too however, and the theory or idea of communism as a single (global) humanity living in an utopian present sucks. Marx was wrong also in his dogged materialism, he was wrong everywhere.

>>15132084
>idea of communism as a single (global) humanity
that's not marx, that's Trotsky

>>15131825
oh wow, someone believes in concentration of power, they must be a materialist!
Tell it to the Catholic Church.

>>15131272

>>15132198
this guy looks like a basedjack, not gonna lie. I doubt he would use the memes.

>Plato
>Kant
>Hegel
>Marx
Who cares about any of them? They all lost. The age of idealism is over.