/lit/ - Literature

>>15174492
Yes and yes

The more you learn about the actual history of philosophy, the more painful this board becomes to browse

>SO LIKE… WHEN PLATO WROTE ABOUT THE SOUL BEING LIKE THE HARMONY PRODUCED BY A LYRE HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW MODERN HARPS EXIST… PLATO BTFO? OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING?? I HAVENT READ IT BTW

Reading posts like the OP feels like reading the smell of shit

>>15174528
seething moral relativist

>>15174528
Bro when Heraclitus said war be cool an shit did he mean to support the holocaust?!?!

>>15174492
>did he really solve moral philosophy
He was a miserable man who was the beta orbiter of a woman who would have an open marriage with another guy. And who ended up crazy.

Do you really think he solved moral philosophy, considering his life?
Say what you want about him, but Epicurus had a much better life and was a much happier man.

>>15174556
Yes, and Judge Nuremberg never even sentenced him for trial.

>>15174604
>of a woman who would have an open marriage with another guy
If you mean Salome, she convinced a rich old guy that abstinence in marriage is the ideal and then went and had a lot of lesbian affairs. To describe it as an "open marriage" isn't really doing it justice.

It's also not accurate to call Nietzsche a beta orbiter, they liked each other a lot and he proposed marriage but even if he were the last man on earth, you know? She was going to take advantage of someone, it was never going to be Nietzsche.

>>15174492
> oeuvre

he didn't sweep the problems of metaphysics under the rug, he exposed them as being a complete ruse, like Wittgenstein with epistemology in Philosophical Investigations. He is therapeutic bc he frees us from these useless questions

>>15174492
He got the ball rolling towards the end of philosophy overall. He more or less solved all of the major problems in philosophy that existed up until his time, and then posited an ontological philosophy to end ontology.

>dude morality is relative lmao
Yes, but he never said this as an insult or a way to prevent anyone from possessing their own morality. Morality is relative, everyone has their own — but none of us are equal. That means no morality system is equal, either.

>>15174604
See pic and then realize your post is nothing more than a petty insult. Also, he "ended up crazy" because he likely had brain cancer according to doctors today, something he can hardly be held at fault for.

How can someone make it so obvious they didn't read about the subject they're opening a thread about? It should be a bannable offense

>>15174640
Youre aware Salome fucked other men?

>>15174681
now this i'm into

>>15174670
>therapeutic
This is probably the best way to put what Nietzsche's value is. All these people asking "well did Nietzsche ever refute moralism!?!?" aren't even aware that their refutation mania is literally the horizon of their world. Nietzsche is freeing.

>>15174670
this
if you want to liberate yourself from philosophy read
>Wittgenstein for refutation of metaphysics and epistemology
>Nietzsche for refutation of ethics and moral philosophy
>Marx for refutation of ethics and political/social philosophy

>>15174670
>>15174675
>>15174695
How did the whole "abandon morals" thing work out for him?
Or for our society?

>>15174681
I'm not OP, but maybe you now understand how we feel when you guys go shit up on Stoicism threads when you clearly have not read it.

>>15174849
you should read him before posting dumbass shit

How do one’s mustache hairs get so fucking long? Look at those things, they’re just going hog wild. Mine always slow down after like half an inch or so.

>>15174849
Nietzsche didn't abandon morality.

>>15174893
he abandoned everything that 99% of people think of when the word morality is spoken

>>15174910
What he did was successfully wrestle morality away from Semitic thinkers for the first time since the Romans. That's hardly the same as abandoning it.