/lit/ - Literature

>>15301439
Cool opinion bro. What about literature and books? I heard they can help flesh out hot takes.

>>15301439
Doesn't make sense. If they genuinely enjoy it intrinsically why would they be concerned about the utility of it?

>>15301453
they genuinely enjoy it because they are soulless and could convinced to watch paint dry all day if it had the potential to yield six figures

>>15301439
Well, it’s the hot job market prospect right now, what do you expect? If we were in the 15th century, would you say the same thing about the people jumping to boats to the new world? They are boring but that has nothing to do with their career choice. Most people are boring, whether they’re coders, actors, stock traders, racecar drivers or professors.

>>15301462
>you

>>15301492

>>15301439
coding to what end? in general or for some business?

>>15301525
i should have made an exception for indie game devs (gay as they are) or at least someone who has a genius idea and needs code to actualize it

i'm talking about people who make being a 'l33t coder' or having a bunch of barely-useful technical knowledge about computers their whole personality

Coding is no different from any other craft like wood carving or clock repair. If you think that anybody that produces stuff for a living is a brainless monkey, then sure.

>>15301555
do people who repair clocks for a living go to 'clock-a-thons' and berate others on reddit for not going through the arduous retard loop of applying for work at a big 4 clock company?

>>15301576
I sense some personal issues. Did a coderbro fuck your gf?

>>15301591
i'm a computer science major you simpleton. those greasy fuckspoons wish my girlfriend would have sex with them

>>15301601
Yet you post unrelated emotional garbage like this? You must not be very good at it.

>>15301439
Don't quite think that's fair. Coding allows you to take logic and knowledge of grammar to create observable actions. It's the same logic that makes writing literature so enjoyable - the creation of a world from a mastery of language and ability to understand the cognition of a reader. Doesn't coding simply accomplish similar effects in more explicitly observable forms?

>>15301601
Your gf is fucking a Google programmer as we speak and you're solving his captchas to train google AI like a good boi

>>15301439
I enjoy coding but I don't particularly enjoy being "useful to society", and I got into coding before it was known as 'the lucrative job'. It's fun to build something and make the computer bend to your will. Either you're capable of it or you aren't. Humanities stuff is much more ambiguous, who's to say if that writing of yours is good or not?

20 years from now knowing a programming language or at least being able to read code will be the equivalent of basic literacy today. As in, if you can't you will be confined to the lowest social layer and regarded as a peasant nigger subhuman. Adapt or die.

>>15301621
don't take this the wrong way, but you'd be right at home posting on r/cscareerquestions

>>15301640
jesus, do code nerds really think like this? if anything, she would cheat on me with some deadbeat artist with a gallery exhibition.

nobody finds the act of coding sexy or carnally desirable, only the money that it brings, and a (decent) girl who wanted that could probably find a better sugardaddy than ranjeet or alexei

>>15301734
>20 years from now knowing a programming language or at least being able to read code will be the equivalent of basic literacy today
Which makes presenting it as a life goal additionally pathetic.

>>15301757
I was talking about fucking your girlfriend, not coding.

/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.

>>15301770
nice reading comprehension there, bud.

>>15301757

Jesus Christ is the Son of God

>>15301803
you think you can code yet you fell for this lol

>>15301439
/lit/ - literature

>>15301776
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN BOOKIES ON THIS HECKIN BOARD, GO POST YOUR OFF-TOPIC THREADERINO SOMEWHERE ELSEEE

>>15301439
true. fuck nerds

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>>15301830
i never claimed to think such a thing, champ, nor do i consider it a virtue like you seem to

>>15301873
you're projecting, if I considered it a virtue I would have made an unrelated provocative post about it on a literature forum

>>15301439
STEMtards aren't people. Seriously.

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>>15301920
Is reddit all you have left?

>>15301929
what do you have? claims that some faggot STEMcel is railing my girlfriend? the assumption that my disdain for coding as a societal phenomenon is rooted in my inability to do it? le projekting?

yeah, you're a logical powerhouse, all right

>>15301963
see
>>15301450

>>15301975
alright, you have to be autistic or underage or something. this board does nothing but complain about STEMbugs on a regular basis, and it's somehow grossly off-topic to make a thread about it? if anyone has nothing, it's you

>>15302021
keep telling youself that meme person

>>15302031

>>15302041
ok, let's see if this time you have the willpower to not make another retarded post

>>15302063

>>15302021
Ohhhhhh, so this is like a “look at me I have the correct opinion guys” post. Gotcha.

>>15302082

>>15302063
WIN

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>>15301439
How did you convince yourself of that?

>>15302134
personal experience with codemonkeys/ tech people

>>15302142
Care to enlighten us?

Programming attracts:
A) Trannies
B) Autists
C) Losers
You might notice a pattern here - all 3 categories display symptoms of being shitty, toxic people and a pain in the ass to deal with. I should know. Also, an overlap between them is inevitable.

Personally coding feels like a waste of energy compared to creative writing. But I still do it occasionally. So, I'd agree with you, OP.

>>15302150
hi OP

>>15302176
Hi. I'm not OP though, just sharing my experience. Check any programming thread on /g/, especially /dpt/.
I'm not saying programming is bad ,but I honestly hesitate to tell somebody IRL that I do it, as it's not something I'm particularly proud of. It's like this -- programming is not smart enough to be considered a cool field like being a math genius, but it's not normie enough to say it casually like you would say "oh I'm a photographer" or "yeah I like hiking". It just... exists.

>>15301601
Why are you a CS major if you hate it so much, and are utterly unable to grasp the beauty that is creation through mathematics?
The only retard here is you.

>>15302147
sure thing. let me use one of my cs classmates as an example.

i've had several classes with this fag, and all he does is correct the teacher at every possible juncture, usually on something like a grammatical error or misuse of a word. the dude clearly thinks he is 'very smart' despite getting a C- in calc 2, looks for logical 'flaws' in everything, and deals with ambiguity like a child throwing a tantrum.

now obviously, a guy like this is not representative of every person who majors in computer science, but it tends to attract similar types, albeit less obnoxious.

the other type of classmate i seem to have is the 'dude money' brogrammer type who really isn't very good at anything related to the subject, and derides people in other majors b/c 'they're not gonna make any money, lmfao'. their entire interest in the subject is based around external validation that they are going into the 'right' field and they are totally going to be 'set' when they pass over the finish line at graduation. in all honesty, i prefer this type of person to the other, because at least their choice is based on a sort of survival-centric pragmatism than an unsavory self-identity formed by social rejection and an unhealthy fixation on being right about everything

>>15302296
>creation through mathematics
>the average programming / IT job

i'm being trolled, right?

>>15302317
Who’s talking about the average IT job? We’re talking about computer science in general. And you didn’t answer my question, why are you in CS if you hate it so much?

STEMBUG reporting in. OP IS FAG

>>15302335
that's a good question. why do you think i came to hate it?

my choices are either to stick it out and get a bachelor's degree, hopefully to find other employment after graduating, or start over in something else, wasting more time and more money in the process. the choice is clear

>>15302359

>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I BE A CREATIVE LITTLE BUTTERFLY AND BE PAID FOR IT????? HOW COME MY EMPLOYER EXPECTS ME TO TURN PROFIT AND PERFORM REPETITIVE TASKS???? B-B-BUGMEN

>>15302378
Sounds like you resent others for drawing happiness where you find none.

>>15302421
which color of boot would look best with your tongue on it?

>>15301734
absolute brainlet take. code will be writing code before writing code will be something needed by most people.

You sound young. stop generalizing people and grow the fuck up will ya? I could just as well argue:

>I'm convinced that people who genuinely enjoy coding just see it as sort of a "game", and games are fun right, so I'm going to "play games" as a means to make money

>>15301601
>>15301757
>>15301873
>>15302021
imagine being this guy.

>>15302439
maybe so, but who gives a shit? life would probably be easier if i were a lobotomized tech jockey sanitizing web page inputs and doing SQL queries like it was my one true passion. life would also be easier if i were born a dog who is happy by default

>>15302521
what a pathetic loser

>>15302514

I program the machines that integrate with turbines, which in turn generate electricity so you all can shitpost on 4chan. coding isn't just shitty banking software and Facebook and San Francisco. I work with blue collar dudes all day and it's a fucking blast. think outside the box, take your shiny $120k CS / EE degree, and go into the field of industrial automation.

>>15302538
>what a pathetic loser

>>15302560
Come on, I'm not the one asking to become a reddit-face posting lobotomized dog, anon.

>>15301734
Op is a massive faggot but your take here is beyond retarded.

>>15302611
This is you.

>>15301505
Not an argument.

>>15302681
You can't help yourself, can you?

>>15301439
I wish you invested that much time into developing a personality. Then you would maybe come up with a better thread idea.

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>>15302722

>>15302558
>still writes if else
>I-It's different guys, I swear

>think outside of the box

so, it's such a blast that you can't come up with a better advice based on your experience?

I love listening to how people talk about their job. A lot of times, I fear to ask what some of the their definitions mean, because they end up only having a surface level presentational purpose.

>>15302769
I'll say it clearer.

Develop a personality, then you'll stop caring about what other people do with their damn life. It's not like he's doing you any harm if he sits in front of a computer and enjoys coding. It's not like you need to hang around him if it's not obligatory.

>inb4 "b-but I'm just throwing some thoughts into the tround g-guys"

The OP reeks of "I've watched a 10 minute video about psychology on YouTube."

>>15302806
Imagine being so soulless you think you have two options in life and all you can do is complain at people who are wasting their time because you chose the wrong degree for you.

>>15302867
I honestly don't give a shit "what other people do with their damn life", I just care that they're around me and they're the people I have to interact with and pretend like I give a shit

>>15303135
So why not tell them that, or change your location to a place that doesn't have those people, or do literally anything else other than whine on an anonymous book forum?
Is it because you're weak and afraid of confrontation? You sound like the one I'd be annoyed to be around.

Programming can be creative, if you design it from top to bottom.

>>15301576
Damn, programmer here, you are not wrong. The field really is filled with morons like that.

Know what I hate even more though? The "I AM A PROGRAMMER AND I HATE PROGRAMMING, MY LIFE IS HELL OH MY GOD PROGRAMMING IS SO HARD I NEED ALCOHOL".

You don't see "I am a clock-maker and I hate clocks, my life is hell, oh my god clocks are so hard, I need alcohol" types either.

>>15301734
20 years from now coding will all be done by ai

>>15303349
>You sound like the one I'd be annoyed to be around.
this. OP is a pretentious faggot and I wouldn't be surprised if he is a TI dropout spreading his bitterness and failures.

>>15303392
20 years from now electricity will not exist.

>>15303414
OP is right. He probably came to the wrong board to bitch about it though.

>>15303423
damage control

>>15303445
Nah, I just don't know why he picked /lit/ of all boards, when /g/ pretty much 100% agrees with him. /lit/ doesn't know anything about what the IT world is like. There's even one guy here that implied being a Google employee is prestigious. That's how clueless /lit/ is. That's like saying a Wallmart employee is a prestigious retailer. Google is not what it was in the early 2000s and anyone can work there nowadays.

>>15303414
>dropout

if only

>>15303478

i picked lit because of the general disdain for STEM careers here, especially CS types, which is why it's funny to me that this thread got the backlash that it did.

also i didn't have anything specifically technology-related to talk about, like my linux distro or whatever the hell goes on in /g/

why did you post this on a literature board?
Some people like building stuff, you're just clearly not that type of person OP

>>15303576
jesus fucking christ, enough. would it have made you feel better if i had thrown some references in the OP about 'last men' and people who internalize utilitarian values? did you want a nick land flathead picture or some shit? give me a break