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15316846 No.15316846 [Reply] [Original]

>spend 3 years reading philosophy
>It's all cringe
what do you do after realising it's cringe? Read poetry instead?

>> No.15316851

delete your account

>> No.15316852

>>15316846
reread all of it

>> No.15316866

>>15316846
To say of what is based that it is cringe, or of what is cringe that it is based, is cringe, while to say of what is based that it is based, and of what is cringe that it is cringe, is based

>> No.15316884

>>15316866
cringe

>> No.15316889
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>>15316846

>> No.15316898

>>15316846
you got filtered

>> No.15316899

>>15316846
Life is meaningless all wisdom is vanity. Do whatever you find interesting because in the end none of it matters.

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>>15316889
>wow, this is literally me. Minus browsing 4chan and calling people derogatory terms

>> No.15316917

>>15316846
Write a book about how it is all cringe.

>> No.15316922

>>15316898
cope midwit

>> No.15316933

turning to poetry from philosophy is always the sign of an infantile midwit

>> No.15316961

>>15316933
t. bugman who will forever trapped reading about poetry, but never reading or doing poetry

>> No.15316985

>>15316846
>3 years of reading philosophy
>Cant really explain your reasoning.

Sure....

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>>15316985
I've moved beyond reasoning

>> No.15317007

>>15316994
based irrationalist anon
you will be a poet yet

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Are you familiar with Robert Anton Wilson, OP?
Shunned by mainstream philosophy, he’s probably got the outlook you’re looking for.

>> No.15317062

>>15316846
Ive noticed a lot poets are obsessed with philosophy but terrible at it. Similar story with their religious sensibilities apart from the mystic poets.

>> No.15317069

>>15316994
>I've moved beyond reasoning
That implies there is no reasoning behind your statement, which is false.

>> No.15317076

>>15317069
he meant he moved beyond trying to concealing his retart

>> No.15317079

>>15317069
I thought it implied he has feelings instead.

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>>15316889
your pic is everything I aspire to be, right down to the Burzum t (I own two)
>>15316846
Bare in mind that most mainstream poetry of the 21st century is bland and basic as fuck.
If you're looking for somewhere to start, OP, I recommend any of the Metaphysicals of the 16th/17th centuries. Start with George Herbert, maybe, Donne's Holy Sonnets, and maybe Shakespeare's sonnets. Poetry from this era was peak, and you will learn much about the English language and expression just by paying attention to these works, that you otherwise wouldn't reading more modern poetry...

>> No.15317090

>>15317062
>obsessed with philosophy but terrible at it
this also holds true for philosophers themselves, otherwise there wouldn't be 2000+ years of disagreement

>> No.15317092

>>15317069
He could of randomly rolled his face across the keyboard to generate that post no reasoning required. More generally human communication is not limited or even primarily logical deduction. That was the error of the logical positivists, that all speech was logical propositions

>> No.15317105

>>15317069

>"that implies"
>still using logical implication

midwit confirmed

>> No.15317107

>>15317076
>he meant he moved beyond trying to concealing his retart
You certainly moved beyong reasoning, since I have no idea what you are trying to say.

>>15317079
>I thought it implied he has feelings instead.
Feelins can be perfectly reasonable, for example, if I walk at night, and see a pack of niggers, its perfectly reasonable to start feeling fear, which then allows my body to more easily go into fight or flight.

>> No.15317113

>>15317107
I am trying to say you are fucking retarded bro

>> No.15317139

>>15317105
This is also a reasoned response, everything here until now is a reasonsed reponse where someone says something with the goal of influencing the opposition.

You are free to move beyond reason, but then you would have to go the route of saying something like:

The red coloured train, takes his way with the city, pooring his noise across the rooftops, taking his load of disintrested passangers to their unwilling destinations. The train does not think, but it does will, every nutt an bolt being the glue that holds his wil together, the journey being absent, his existence being his prime will, only being attacked by the passage of time.

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>>15316846
Nature > poetry > fiction >>>> philosophy

Pic semi-related

>> No.15317148

>>15317113
>I am trying to say you are fucking retarded bro
You reasoned that saying this would generate an emotional reponse and cause me emotional anquish or cause me to back off.

Why isnt this the ultimate reasoned reponse? This is literally how 1/3 of the population would speak like!

>> No.15317203

I agree but I still think poetry is gay. Pages upon pages about the wind smelling like Odysseus' farts shut UP

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>>15317069
I wasn't implying anything, It's just that I don't need to or want to explain it to you. I remembered a moment when I was very young just looking at a cute bug eating a leaf with a friend. My thought was so calm at that time. It wasn't riddled with disturbing experiences bothering me, full of language viruses or produced axioms from sociality and it doesn't have to be that way.
Bend this however you want to suit the fabricated narrative you live inside but I don't want any part of it.

>> No.15317439

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>> No.15317543

>>15317046
This, ecology, 'spiritualism', religion, Transcendental authors if 'Murican, e.g.
>>15317146
>Nature > poetry > fiction >>>> philosophy
Pallas Athena, Veiled Isis

>> No.15318031

>>15317439
Based ADHD poster

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>>15317543
You're right on the money.
A chart for if you want to add a level of depth to your nature walks

>> No.15318100

>>15316846
you nailed it perfectly, anon, you're on the right track

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>>15316889
>sauna three times per week

>> No.15318127

>>15316846
History, history is almost like a laboratory of philosophy. But you know that!

>> No.15318172

>>15316846
love this pic. reminds me of trails i visit where I always wonder who had the lovely idea of building the plank-board paths that get me over the swampy bits. and i hope they still exist, and i hope that more people like them continue to exist because i know people like me would have simply turned around.

>> No.15318198

>>15317046
seeing this image it's become clear to me that
RAW was the prototype for new athiest redditors.

>> No.15318359

>>15318172
mountain bikers often build forest bridges like this today

>> No.15318377

>>15316846
I say the only philosopher worth reading is Nietzsche since he explains quite well that philosophy is a waste of time. Read the great works of fiction, poetry, or about topics that interest you. Only read if you want to of course, don’t read because you think it will make you intelligent or happier

>> No.15318486

Read about zen and go into nature to experience it without the useless clutter of your mind, or read wittgenstein if you haven't killed philosophy yet

>> No.15318558

Study aesthetics and do a sneaky, anon. Make these philosophers poets.

>> No.15318776

What do you do if you don’t think it’s cringe and it’s your only natural interest but you still think it’s disintegrated and been rendered basically useless?

>> No.15318815

>>15316846
Philosophy > cultural movement > art using said cultural movement > politics
You can go forward or backwards

>> No.15318825

>>15318815
By art I mean subject too, so math or science using cultural movement

>> No.15319915

>>15316851
what account

>> No.15320139

What """philosophy""" have you been """reading""" exactly?

>> No.15320432

>>15316866
Based