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Previous Thread because OP is a retard: >>15373145

>>15392807
Shamelessly redirecting to my previous posts for visibility: >>15392654 and >>15392757

sanderfag a hack

>>15392841
Based

>>15392805
I have way too big of a trust problem with women to read something like that. That kind of story doesn't provide me with enjoyable drama, it gives me emotional anxiety.

are there any fantasy series with magic systems that are sort of like high level math? The closest I can think of is in Bakker's books.

>>15392913
The fuck? How people who don't have math degrees supposed to understand that shit?

>...reads the first book in a series and rates it 1 star then proceeds to read the rest of the series and rates them all 1 star.
Which one of you is this?

>>15392937
I generally suspect that people who do it either have way too much time on their hands or don't actually read the books they're rating.

>>15392956
>either have way too much time
I wish I had that much time. I am barely able to cram in all the socializing with the job and life.

>>15392937
>how can you tell something is bad if you don't read it?
>why would you read something you think is bad?

>>15392937
Either they have severe autism, they enjoy reading stuff they hate, they are jaded as fuck and hate everything, or they didn't even read the books.

I find it hard to believe that there are people that actually do this.

>>15392654
I've seen some comparisons of Miles and Tyrion mainly because they're two of the very few (perhaps only) major characters in remotely mainstream SFF with dwarfism, though I don't really see the similarities on the personality level beyond the most superficial.

That said, the Vorkosigan Saga is critically acclaimed for a reason.

>>15392970
/sffg/ in a nutshell. Just read Gene Wolfe.

>>15392970
>how can you tell something is bad if you don't read it?
One whole novel is not enough to get a feel?

>>15392971
I would have said the same but after some time here I am not so sure any more.

>>15392976
Isn't Vorkosoggyian a fairly advanced sci-fi setting? Is there no way to address physical deformity?

>>15392913
>Bakker
>math
I actually interpreted a lot more literally and pictured it like high level linguistics tbqh.
That chapter where Achamian fights the other dudes in the library is probably one of my favorites scenes of a magic using his power told from his own pov.
I don't remember much but I think The Dying Earth had something similar with how the spells worked, although they were more straight forward and simple.

>>15392970
>...highly rated "How to Talk About Books You Haven't Read".
Hey bro.

That thread is fun to catch up on. I'm late.
>that dude sperging out because OP posted some trivia that applied to him after he ousted himself
every time

>>15392991
>One whole novel is not enough to get a feel?
>It gets good later, I swear.

>>15392991
>One whole novel is not enough to get a feel?
Not for the masochistic manchild, especially so when spurred on by other neckbeards.
>the first 20 episodes are a filter. It gets good in the second season
>it gets really good on the 500 pages in
>the only good books (out of 12) are the 1st and 4th one

>In Cold War England, Professor Henry Lytten, having renounced a career in espionage, is writing a fantasy novel that dares to imagine a world less fraught than his own. He finds an unlikely confidante in Rosie, an inquisitive young neighbor who, while chasing after Lytten's cat one day, stumbles through a doorway in his cellar and into a stunning and unfamiliar bucolic landscape—remarkably like the fantasy world Lytten is writing about. There she meets a young boy named Jay who ...

>>15392991
>One whole novel is not enough to get a feel?
The braindead usually defend Sanderson's trash with the ending making it all worth it.

>>15393017
>>15393023
This is why people still watch The Walking Dead and incidentally why we can't have nice things. Personally I would have blamed Americans but the chinks are even worse.

>>15392976
I'm going to spoiler this for those who haven't read either Got or Vorkosigan saga. Though, I'm not sure if any of this really counts of spoilers. Just being safe.
Well they both are born into rich royal families.
They both live under the shadow of their father's brilliance.
They both are geniuses in their own right.
They are both military minded, and fight when it's required of them. Even if they can't be very effective in battle.
They both rely on their quick wits and silver tongue in order to gain power over people.
And speaking of power, they are both addicted to it.
They both have a way of recruiting people to their cause. Actually making loyal subjects and friends, rather than untrustworthy allies.
They both have an early love that they lost.
They both endure hatred from the prejudices people have toward their deformity.>>15392991


>>15392991
>Isn't Vorkosoggyian a fairly advanced sci-fi setting? Is there no way to address physical deformity?
There is. And it's addressed in the book as to why Miles is the way he is. I can't get into particulars without spoiling stuff. But suffice to say: Science can only go so far, until you start asking moral questions.

The British Science Fiction Association Award Winners
https://youtu.be/5RO2uB3E-U0

this is unironically one of the best things I read recently

>>15393074
Egads! Are those basedboys or are they just British?

>>15393085
They are both based and British

>>15392913
>Proof. Think

Kek, what is the source?

>>15393073
I am not going to read Vorkosoggyian. I always find it weird there are no Korean plastic surgeons in SPACEEE in the future.
Medical conditions existing in the future should be far more subtle than dwarfism.

>>15393092
>They are both based and British
>Comments are turned off
To quote one of 'em - absolutely brilliant.
Any comments on the nominees? Anything strikes your fancy?
I am just googling them.

>>15393073
I'd argue Tyrion is more of an inversion or bait & switch. Later on it becomes extremely obvious that his personal POV was portraying him in an extremely flattering and self-righteous light and in reality he's a pretty unpleasant, spoiled/privileged dude with a victim complex a mile high.

>>15392970
Usually I can look at an author and/or their twitter and tell if somethings is bad. Pic related

>>15393135
You probably would've skipped Ursula Le Guin then if they had twitter back then.

>>15393135
That just look so aesthetically unpleasing. I mean you really can't do anything about being black but you can stop stuffing your face.

>>15393143
I skip Ursula Le Guin even now.

>>15392846
>tfw reading Bakkers Second Apocalypse helped me get over some of own my woman-trust issues, alleviated some of the feel-bad from a broken heart, taught me to not blame myself when I was not to blame
R Scott Bakker: come for the grimdark, stay for the Human psychology

>>15393135
>>15393150
Lem was uglier yet he's top 3 GOAT scifi author

>>15393113
Well there is actually "Korean plastic surgeons in SPACEEE".
But it's still not enough to fix his dwarfism. I'll explain some since you say you're not going to read it. But I'll avoid details, in case you change your mind in the future.
Basically, dwarfism IS extremely rare in the future. Mile's condition is extremely exceptional. There was an event that affected his growth in the womb. And he wouldn't have lived at all if it wasn't for future space science. He does get some things fixed over time, Synthetic bones and the like. But korean space science hasn't figured out how to completely overhaul the body quite yet. And in fact, the lack of this technology is a huge point of contention in Mirror Dance.

As the only way to sustain one's life, is to transfer one's brain into another body. So there is a black market of clones, specifically bred to be the vessels of affluent buyers. These clones are made and sculpted to be prettier, more powerful, and overall just better human beings.(Within realism. They're not super men. Just extremely perfected humans. Their aging is accelerated, so the clients only have to wait about 10 years before their vessel is ready for transfer. So basically, you're killing off 10 year olds in order to replace your body and beat aging. There is also that old dilemma where you don't die in the transfer process. And that someone who thinks exactly like you has awakened into consciousness, while the real you is no longer.

>>15393211
they mean she's black anon

>>15393133
Tyrion was never perfect. But he was generally an ok guy at the start of the book. He's simply changed over the course of the story. It isn't some weird fight club type twist that puts everything in a new perspective. He was alright, if morally gray, then bad things happened, and it turned him into a worse guy than he use to be.

>>15393211
I won't go into the quality of writing or lack thereof.
It's not even all that important. No matter how shitty your writing is, you can at least try not to look like a Michelin Man ... only black.

>>15393231
Won't somebody think of the poor clones?!
Thank you the explanation.

>>15390067
i only read the first book but holy shit what a missed opportunity. first 2 thirds of the book are brilliant, beautiful exploration of the MC descending into despair and disenchantment all in a fascinating world, but then the plot becomes retarded and progressively cringy up until the massive anime fight at the end where i thought i might kill myself, this book was the biggest disappointment i felt in a while

everything after he steals the thing and scapes the parlor is utter shit, absolute nonsense that has nothing to do with rest of book in spirit and breaks the plot consistency, i'm getting mad just thinking about it

>>15393264
>Won't somebody think of the poor clones?!
Oh man, if only you knew how much weight that sentence holds. Mirror Dance really plays with that idea a lot.

>>15393135
Just look at first name of the author, also beware of trickery like autors supplying only the initials or names like Robin or Morgan which could belong to a man

going to get into hyperion again and but fall of hyperion. Give me a quick rundown on last chapter from 1st book

>>15393211
It’s not a question of being ugly. It’s looking like a numale, shitskin, or other undesirable

>>15393211
ugly white guys are capable of being interesting, fat back women are always woketards

>>15393264
>>15393336
Oh yeah, one specific thing about clones. It's mostly inconsequential, but I'm going to spoiler it anyway:
There was one clone in particular, who was said to look about 20 with MASSIVE tits. Like, Bujold kept emphasizing how big her tits were. How they couldn't even fit in the uniform she was assigned. And how she had to grab them awkwardly just to do anything. The tits were still relatively new to her, as they were added only three weeks before she shows up in the story.
The catch is, she's probably only 10 years old. And she thought she was 1 day away from meeting her mother. When in fact, she was 1 day away from brain transfer. It was very uncomfortable how much Bujold kept describing her incredible beauty and her natural feminine perfume, and her garment defying tits sloshing around. And then reminding us that she's only 10 years old. Like, honestly, what was the point of this character? Just to make my boner confused?

reminder that there are people who think wuxia is real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjbSCEhmjJA

I shall seal the heavens was fun enough but I've kinda had enough of it by the end of book 3. I was mainly reading it for the tie ins to a will eternal but I think I'd rather just go back to that asap if I am gonna read one book by er gen.
His plot scenarios are too repetitive to stomach without the comedic element, especially because although the cast of characters doesn't change much as the book advances there's still no real character work.

>>15393413
Is their ANY good wuxia besides cradle?

>>15393422
sanderson

Who are you favorite Candian authors /sffg/?

>>15393422
cradle isn't wuxia

>>15393403
Sometimes you see big tiddies and you just can't help yourself.

>>15393422
Cradle is xianxia you fucking dweeb.

>>15393435
I don't see Watts there bitch ass nigga.
Look at that hardened criminal.

>>15393449
>>15393440
What the fuck ever. Rec me some good xianxia like cradle then.
>>15393427
I said GOOD

>>15393422
cradle is dogshit compared to something like Way of Choices. Cradle's big plus is that it's way shorter than most xianxia and also often much faster paced.

>>15393472
>cradle is dogshit compared to something like Way of Choices
lol I doubt that. Look at this shit. Westerners do all forms of media better.

>>15393441
Those tits do not match the scale of what was described in the book. Here, let me show you. It was probably more like this.

>>15393509
Nigger taste. Kys

>>15393520
Hey, don't get mad because I didn't shower your egirl with praise, simp.
I saw the girl you posted in another thread on /v/ I think? Or it could have been /tv/. In anycase, I saw you simping for her in that thread.

>>15393509
So he's a dwarf and a yuuuge titty aficionado? Maybe he should also go see a therapist.
There is something to be said for quality over quantity and those just look like a huge mess hangging almost to her navel. I would recommend you read "Fantastic Breasts and Where to Find Them".

>>15393435
Probably Bakker. GGK is a faggot and the left reeks of WH40k/DnD bullshit.

>>15393594
Who's on the left?

>>15393600
Steven Erikson, the guy behind the main Malazan series.

>>15393632
So all three of them are ... not so good.
O Canada!

Not the cradle guy but how do you guys pick wuxia/xianxia to read when they're all like 1000 chapters long. Outside of the very famous ones I have no idea how to tell if something will be good

>ignore 4chan for a few days
>feel better and more productive
peace out hombres, thanks for the long sun recc. go read blindsight you cunt

>>15393676
Get a job nigger so you won't feel bad when you come here.

>>15393537
>simp
Nice projection and I didn’t post any whore you fat fuck

>>15393567
>"Fantastic Breasts and Where to Find Them
I don't know what that is.
But September Carrino's tits are nice, considering their size. She loses some points because her face isn't good. She legit has macromatasia though. As her boobs continue to grow well into adulthood. She started as a playboy model, when her tits were just normal-big. Then they kept growing to a size that exceeds playboys standards, and so she started her own site. The picture I posted is at least 5 years old now. Maybe 10. so I have to wonder how big they are today. Anyway they used to be perky before they kept growing. But even at their mega size, they're still holding up well. With relatively minimal sag and big gumdrop nipples. Look at them yourself. Coogle "september carrino nude"

>those just look like a huge mess hangging almost to her navel.
When boobs are big enough, they simply run out of space. Being near the navel isn't necessarily a shape problem. It just means that they take up the whole "canvas" or their chest so to speak. Here, I made a graph. The mass of the tits aren't dropping, They're just taking up more space, for their sheer size. Which of course, means they're closer to the navel.

>>15393459
>>15393676
I will, I've been meaning to for a while. The only other books in my immediate backlog are Accelerando, Anathem, Revelation Space and the Tales from the Flat Earth series so I'll probably give Blindsight priority.

What is it that draws you to fantasy or scifi more than other genres ?
I always like it that pretty much anything can happen within the constrains of the plot.

>>15393764
>knowing this much about some whore and her disgusting tits
that’s some turbo simping right here. Kys

>>15393785
I think it's the security of knowing that something interesting will happen. Where with other fiction, you might just get a super dry story, without any fantastical elements to rely on.

>>15393794
Yes, I love titties, and I love knowing about titties.

>>15393816
>the eternal incel
what an embarrassment

>>15393850
Reminder: You're the one who acted like you have superior taste in titties. Yet you display no knowledge of them.

>>15393869
Nigger you’ve never even seen a tit in real life. Fuck off

>>15393764
I understand that a man's fap material is sacred so I'll just say those kind of tits are not my cup of tea.

>>15393878
Pff. You're trolling fucking /sffg/ of all places.

>>15393882
Fair enough. I was only annoyed by the common assertion that large tits are inherently misshapen. A lot of people just automatically throw the "shape" argument at big tits without thinking. I've always thought that one cannot even have certain shapes without the material the sculpt them. And there isn't one standard boob shape either.

>>15393924
I’ve never felt the need to say this until today.


Have sex

I have an idea for a story. It's about people from the Middle Ages traveling to Nidavellir. Is this gay?

>>15394015
Kinda gay. And formulaic.

>>15394004
I'm honored to witness the birth of an internet troll.

>>15394031
What do you think is gay and formulaic about it?

>>15394039
Now before I begin I would like to point out that this is not a personal attack on you. The reason I am slapping that disclaimer is that this place (like /lit in general) is full of horrifically insecure anons who try to overcompensate for their failings by being pretentious shits here.
That being said, I have a few questions:
1) What people? Warriors, scholars, simple peasants, none of the above? The social dynamics of Middle ages, or better yet the American liberal politically correct version of it has kinda been done to death already.
2) How come they can travel to this mystical place of dwarves? I don't know just how fantastic (or not) you intend to go but the standard historical fiction intertwined with fantastical elements has been done to death.
3) Nidavellir - Norse mythology has been done to death.
4) Vikings have been done to death.
You could read The Name of the Rose for some nice historical fiction (or just watch the movie).

>>15392807
>picture for ants edition

>>15394170
>You could read The Name of the Rose for some nice historical fiction (or just watch the movie).
And opinion discarded

What the fuck is this shit? Why is amazon forcing me to buy a kindle?

>>15394265
>And opinion discarded
Yeah those kind of posts have also been done to death.
You need something more original.

>>15394269
Better question would be
>why am I so retarded I don't know how to identify the seller

>>15394269
It's not from amazon themselves. Sellers sometimes increase prices to something stupid to keep a listing up.

>>15394284
Sorry but other than point 1 and 2, your post was just pure, pretentious wankery.

>>15393403
>hurr durr the body is mature, but the mind isn't
>I have been conditioned as an American
I bet you wouldn't fuck a downie, even though they have the tightest snatches.

>>15393143
Big whoop. You miss out on an early tranny story, a generic fantasy story with a black people tweest and a lot of shitty feminist:ing of earlier works.
Le Guin isn't just overrated, she's quite mediocre.

>>15394301
I guess I tried.

Fuck E William Brown
He promised a book July last year and still hasn't delivered.

>>15394289
>>15394300
WHY IS THERE NOT A MORE RECENT PRINT OF THIS GODDAMN BOOK?

People here who have written a SF/F book and tried to get it published, because I know there are at least a few. Redpill me - was it worth it? Did anyone read it when you were done? You don't have to dox yourself or post your book or whatever. I just want to know if you felt better or worse when you were done with it.

>>15393029
>book is about an author writing a story...
Is pears a Steven King pen name?

>>15394312
Hey, my mom likes her

>>15394170
>muh originality
Absolutely retarded notion, more so when all you're whining about is the setting while knowing nothing more.
I could read hundreds of books on 19th century France. Hell, there are hundreds of books with that setting. Complaining about the lack of originality in that regard is Goodreads YA reading tier dumbness.
I would also read hundreds of books on a carbon copy of Middle Earth, provided the writing was good enough and the narrative explored unique ideas or perspectives, say the life of a balrog, or some elven messenger lost when travelling between human settlements. Idk.
You are correct in only one prejudice, and it's that fantasy writers may come up with original settings or reuse the genre's aesthetics and ideas, but write awful shit that's formulaic in dialogue and plot structure.

>>15394306
It depends. I might. When I was in high school, one of the hottest girls I've ever seen was in the special needs group. They would sit in on some of normal classes, and she kept batting her eyes at me. I was tempted. Hell, the whole school was tempted. But she showed me special attention, to the point where the special needs handler was trying to control her.
She would come to school dressed in tight black dresses and heels. It was bizarre. She wasn't like fully tarded. But there was an empty headedness about her that you don't see in other women. Like if you asked her what she was thinking about, she would say "nothing", and it would really be nothing. But she was poised and smoking hot, and spoke well. She didn't have the tard speech.

Anyway... I might. Just maybe. But she was still my age technically. She wasn't actually 10 years old. That's just too weird.

>>15394363
It's just one of the storylines.
He's one of the maniacs from the /wbg/ - Worldbuilding General over on >>>/tg/

>>15393520
Black people like ass and thighs. It's the weird whites who weren't breastfed by their moms who get a breast fetish.

>>15394369
Dude calm the fuck down. Once again, stop acting like this is somehow an attack on your insecure personage or your rarefied tastes. It's just an opinion of a complete stranger on the Internet. And our opinions can differ, isn't that amazing?
While you might be satisfied with retreading the same ground I am not. Which contrary to your hysterics does not somehow make your opinion less valid.

Is Book of the New Sun an actual meme? If not then when does it pick up.

>>15394395
Tards have high sex drives. She wanted you to douse the fire between her legs with your milk.

>>15394503
When you git gud scrub.

>>15394492
The argument started when you or someone proposed a middle ages meets norse mythology setting was "gay and formulaic".
You expounded on that and brought up a ton of silly things while substantiating none of your claims.
Name 5 books from an American liberal perspective on Middle ages social dynamics. Or just name 2 books that combined the two settings mentioned above. Or why any of the above is necessarily a bad thing. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings but just now you used 80 words to say nothing. Kinda like your original opinion.

Seriously what's the point of even getting invested in shit like Stormlight which you know won't be finished until like 2050

>>15394503
Well book 1 is kind of an intro where barely anything happens but if you don't like comfy walks then the series might not be for you.
Also, Agia is best girl.

>>15393231
Vorkosigan and Tyrion are not the same beside being scheming dwarves born into aristocracy. Miles is clever, but moralistic, stern and a romantic who lets his first love go out of pure, well, love. Tyrion is crass, vulgar, hedonistic and scheming, with a sort of moral streak but generally a vicious twat. Miles is a general at heart. Tyrion is a court eunuch.

>>15394585
Stop being so gay and formulaic.

birdboi where are you?

>>15393669
i dont, cause they suck

>>15394037
Your pathetic life was the catalyst

>read chinese novel
>now really want to eat steamed buns again
>one chinese takeaway that does them is closed for quar
:(

>>15394478
No they like women who are in the shape of gorillas

>>15394597
>Miles is clever, but moralistic
Tyrion was moralistic up until the point when everyone turned against him. They tarnishing his character. Tried to get his executed. Stole the whore he loved. And then to top it all off, the one person he thought he could trust most let him believe his one *true* love didn't love him. THEN, he became a more sinister character.

>stern and a romantic
Tyrion was both of these things. His romantic side allowed him to believe a whore loved him. He wanted their love to be true so bad, that he deluded himself.

>who lets his first love go out of pure, well, love
This is wrong. You're probably misremembering. But Miles learned that Elena was in love with someone else, and still tried to pull her. He was REFUSED. He did not "let go". In fact, even the insinuation that Miles had a say in her love life would be very upsetting to Elena.

>Tyrion is crass, vulgar, hedonistic and scheming
ok, there are some differences here. But Miles is SUPER scheming. That's his ENTIRE CHARACTER. He schemes. He's always thinking of every possibility, every detail. Miles is a control freak.

And let's not forget in his first book, he was abusing some stimulant. I forget what it was exactly. But Miles was handed a drink, and it kept him awake. He was going through some kind of manic episode.

>>15394312
I like how she writes, I just don't like what she writes about

>>15393781
based

Anathem is comfy

I'm trying to find more highbrow fantasy along the lines of Gene Wolfe. I'm thinking of checking out H.P. Lovecraft, do you think he'd fit the bill?

>>15394749
he was a pulp writer ffs
did you just take "highbrow" to mean religious or something lol

>>15393413
what if i just think its really fun to read

>>15393669
You just start reading em
Look at reviews and the blurb, stay away from stuff with harems, etc

>>15394705
You feel better about yourself after posting this?

>>15394749
You asked this last thread.
Fuck off.

>>15394749
No but Dunsany would if you want someone doing short stories.
George MacDonald's Phantastes is also up there.
Jack Vance too had some deeper novels although he's a pulp author at heart.

Is pic related any good? I'm always hesitant about books with the LGBT tag as its so rarely done competently let a lone well. However, the author did the writing for House of the Dying Sun which I thoroughly enjoyed so I'm holding out hope

>>15394977
Why would you even bother with lgbt trash?

>>15394977
Easiest way to tell if something is trash is if it has an LGBT tag.

Halp /sffg/. Is Brian Lumley's Necroscope series good to read if you like ESP/psychic thrillers?

>>15394977
yes it's good

>>15393462
reverend insanity (imo the best in the genre but has an extremely edgy protag so dont read if that bothers you)
Desolate era/lord xue ying (both by the same author and both good)
I shall seal the heavens/renegade immortal (again both by the same author. IISTH considered by chinkshit readers to be a classic in the genre, RI is newer but also widely loved)

>>15393669
i usually just start reading and see if i like them. Novelupdates is also a pretty useful website because i can see if it has cringe harem tropes and preemptively not read it. The fact that theyre 1000+ chapters is good because theyre all free so I can just find one i like and read millions of words.

>>15395114
ri is older, a will eternal is his newer better work

>>15394749
Borges. If you mean highbrow genre fiction than thats an oxymoron. You should honestly ask in ourlit this thread is for based lowbrowchads

>>15394977
actually pretty good despite the lgbt tag. You can tell the author is a leftoid but I still enjoyed it because the story was interesting and the writing was decent. Not sure about the sequel(s) though.

>>15395135
his fights are too chinky for me tbqh. Niggas be spitting out swords and shit.

>>15395170
yeah they get pretty anime and boil down to just listing powers with no actual martial arts, a will eternal's the only one of his I've stuck with and that's because of the comedy element

>>15393462
>Rec me some good xianxia
World of Cultivation.
I Shall Seal The Heavens.
Desolate Era.
A Record of a Mortal’s Journey to Immortality.
Transcending the Nine Heavens.
Chronicles of Primordial Wars.
Immortal Mortal.
Perfect World.
A Will Eternal.
Otherworldly Evil Monarch.
Sovereign of the Three Realms.
Spirit Realm.
Martial World.
True Martial World.
Demon’s Diary.
Coiling Dragon.
Forty Millenniums of Cultivation.

>>15394349
Anon...
https://www.amazon.com/Snail-Slope-Rediscovered-Classics/dp/1613737548

>>15395416
thank you. This is what I wanted. I will retire in shame now.

>>15394503
How far in are you? I've only just finished the first book, but pretty much everything after he gets banished has been at least moderately enjoyable. Even before that there's still a few pretty good parts like hanging out with Triskele and torturing Thecla.

Shadow of the Torturer has just been a harem anime. Thecla, Agia, Dorcas, Jolenta. Is the whole series like this?

>>15395588
lol yeah, its kind of ridiculous how many chicks severian gets considering he's such an autist, but he is supposed to be super jacked and many of those girls are just trying to use him because of his image

>spent a year off-and-on reading Desolate Era
I think that may be it for extra long xianxia.

>>15395588
It slows down but remember all those women are using him in some way and aren't just infatuated with him. Also he's a rapist.

>>15394952
You triggered cupcake?

>>15394977
How could you even stomach reading about homosexual degenerates?

>>15395697
>Also he's a rapist.
Well if granny doesn't want to give up those sweet wet walls, I would have to take it by force.

>>15395114
>>15395236
Thanks I hope some of these are good but I have my doubts since it’s written by bugmen. I think what makes cradle so good is it’s done by a westerner

>>15395827
Because it's lesbians

>>15395880
Still degenerate. Porn has rotted your brain anon

>>15395830
He's talking about Jolenta, that milf from Thrax and Thecla (according to some theories.) Not Dorcas.

>>15395966
Dorcas was forced as well, the first time at least.

why did he do it lads

What are some good faerie stories? I don't mean fairy tales in the usual sense of the term, but good stories that prominently feature the fair folk. Especially if the author manages to make them both alien to us and sympathetic.

>>15396112
Pretty based character. Series was good but that last battle was dumb.
How’s the next series compare?

>>15396124
Shadowmarch by tad Williams if you can stand how bloated his works are

>>15396125
same as the last series
strong start, weak ending

>>15395849
a lot of chinkshit is just so generic and bland and thoughtless, has nothing inherently to do with it being written by bugmen, its just that theyre paid by wordcount and the bar is really low. I can't reccommend reverend insanity enough as it has a unique power system, well developed side characters that arent cardboard cutouts that run at the mc just so they can get btfo, and actual thought put into it.

to give you an idea of how based it is its currently on hiatus because its almost overtly critical of the chinese government at times (theres a part where the mc uses a cultural revolution tactics to make slaves work themselves to death). If it bothers you that the main character is such an insect keep in mind that to succeed in such a corrupt system you sort of can't be moral, which I think is part of the reason hes so evil. I also really like cradle and would honestly only put it behind reverend insanity in how much I enjoyed it. I've read a lot of chinkshit but there are basically none others that stand out at all in that way. The only issue is due to it being banned its currently on hiatus while the author rights his next novel, although hes said if they dont unban it on the website for chinkshit novels he'll still finish it but just not make any money off of it. Even with it still being translated I strongly reccommend it.

I've read most of the novels the second guy you replied to reccommended and a few (otherworldly evil monarch, sovereign of the three realms) are terrible and you will probalby hate them.

>>15396131
I'll check it out. Thank you.

>>15396136
Thanks I wish I could read reverend insanity on my kindle. But I’ll still give it a try

>>15396159
cant you? i use a google chrome addon called web to epub to easily make 1000s of chapters of chinkshit into epubs which i export to my phone or whatever. Can you not do that on kindle? If you can i recommend learning how to do it as it makes a world of difference and is nice for any webnovel with lots of chapters.

>>15396047
>Dorcas was forced as well, the first time at least
This

>>15396168
I don’t know but I’ll give it a try

>one week less till new Dresden files

>>15393178
As long as you stick to the Wizard of Earthsea trilogy she's fine.

Someone recc me something with good combat

>>15396355
Tarzan of the Apes, by Burroughs
The Lost World, by Doyle
King Solomon's Mines, by Rider Haggard
Conan and Solomon Kane, by Howard

It's up and it's shit
https://www.goodreads.com/new_releases/2020/6

Might read Devolution and Blue Ticket.

what went wrong

hey /sffg/, how have you guys been spending the quarantine?

>>15396355
Heroes Die has very detailed and technical descriptions of 1 on 1 and melee combat. The writer was into martial arts and he put a lot of shit in it, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The setting makes the narrator's PoV kinda weird. The book is fun but has some cheese. No idea about the sequels.
Bakker also has some interesting battle strategies.
Abercrombie has some cool battle scenes.

>>15395151
I don't understand the claim that genre fiction can't be highbrow?

>>15396582
Is this list yet more bait?

>>15396747
In fact, there are over 400 highbrow fantasy novels.
goodreads.com/list/show/2448.Highbrow_Fantasy_Books

>>15394749
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ballantine_Adult_Fantasy_series

What's the best recent Fantasy book that came out? All I find is stuff that's been written in the 80s and Joe Abercrombie stuff (which I loved but already read all of it)

>>15396764
Yes

>>15396112
Because they killed his fucking wife.

>>15396957
Read Bakker.

Upright Women Wanted by Sarah Gailey (yeah that's the author in the pic)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45320365-upright-women-wanted
"In Upright Women Wanted, award-winning author Sarah Gailey reinvents the pulp Western with an explicitly antifascist, near-future story of queer identity."
And this little gem:
"The future American Southwest is full of bandits, fascists, and queer librarian spies on horseback trying to do the right thing."
It sound fucking AMAZING. The fag tag on Goodreads is a wellspring of quality.

>>15397366
>When Esther Augustus witnesses the public hanging of her lover, Beatriz, for "deviance" and "the possession of unapproved materials, the fire in her is smothered, and something else inside her stumbles to the edge of a precipice, falls off.
I love me some body horror.

>>15397393
>I love me some body horror.
Fuckin' A. You should scroll down the comments section. It's full of trannies.

>>15394503
I actually reread the first chapter again today, it's amazing how many clues are crammed in there that you just completely gloss over on first reading.

>I would have hidden, but Roche held me, saying, “Wait, I see pikes.”
>“Do you think it’s the guard returning?”
>He shook his head. “Too many.”
>“A dozen men at least,” Drotte said.

Then a couple of lines later...

>but they had pikes, as Drotte had said

and...

>Someone cursed, and the leader and two others sprinted after Eata, but he was too fleet for them.
and
>The man with the key had dropped his lantern when he ran after Eata, and there were only two left.

Severian immediately writes that Roche made the comment about the pikes, and then says it was Drotte. And he writes that Drotte saw at least a dozen men, then says that after three go after Eata there are two left. There's a lot more than just that in the first chapter as well. I didn't want to commit to a full reread though, it seems like it'd be mentally exhausting to pay close attention to absolutely everything.

>>15396766
there's a lot of not highbrow on that list
>#4 A Game of Thrones
>#5 Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

>>15397616
This is why no one likes you.

Need something with subtle references to hidden lore. Like in Book of the New Sun when they reference why the moon is green. Something like Dark Souls. Help

>>15397659
>Something like Dark Souls
You are beyond help anon.

>>15397672
Reading and piecing together lore from obscure and vague item descriptions is the epitome of storytelling nerd.

>>15397659
books are a linear experience you can't have hidden lore beyond making people google references

>>15397741
Mystery niggas in novels are usually the sign of a bad writer and obsession with said mystery niggas in a video game of all places is just being infantile.
I bet your knowledge of Gaylo's lore must be unparalleled.

>>15397588
idk I picked up on some of that stuff but I'm guessing it's another 800 pages until I have a mystery to put the clues to.

Wanna give Stephen King a try what's his best work?

>>15397837
Are you down with the Clown?

>>15397837
Try Pet Sematary

>>15397857
No problem with clown but if you're talking about "It" I already saw the shit movie which might break the experience.

>>15397837
The one where all frogposters get murdered.

>>15397871
I haven't seen the movie yet. It must be good.

>>15397837
Pet Sematary or Salem's Lot

>>15397857
>helium is going to run out in your lifetime

>>15398046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Helium_Reserve

>>15397857

>>15398165
I have no idea what that low quality gif is supposed to be.

>>15397638
Well, I don't understand why he wouldn't consider the Alice books to be highbrow, but A Game of Thrones is a questionable choice.

>>15396136

>>15396368
I hope you realize that's personalized to you and not for everyone in general. It's only viewable for those with an account that has books listed as read.

Is pic related any good? The anime was kino and I'm curious about the source material.

>>15394503
Just finished Citadel of the Autarch and found out there's a fifth book.
That aside though, any similar sci-fi/fantasy recommendations bros? This was my first venture into the genre and I really enjoyed it.

>>15397588
Oh fug

>>15397249

why should I?

>>15397837
11/22/63 and The Dead Zone for me, though admittedly I like King's human observations more than his supernatural stuff.

>>15399430
>found out there's a fifth book
It's optional but if you were left with a lot of questions after Citadel and really like Severian then it's worth the read.
I don't think Sev is an unreliable narrator anymore in Urth since the book is meant to answer a lot of questions.

What would be the harder read between BotNS and Blood Meridian?

>>15399534
I got through BotNS easily despite it being longer but ended up dropping Blood Meridian on two separate occasions
But I'm also a brainlet so take that with a grain of salt

did any interesting sff come out in the last 5 years? everything i've come across has been bland, hitting the same tired notes. it's like scifi and fantasy are withering in on themselves.

>>15399774
yes but there's no fucking point in answering posts like this because you lot moan about anything

>>15399316
WHAT?!

>>15399774
What >>15399960 said you little bitch.

>>15397588
Sorry to inform you but this is a well known errata. I only noticed it on my second read and went online to check (/r/genewolfe/ is alright.) Apparently some BotNS, Long Sun and even Fifth Head of Cerberus editions have many editing errors. Long Sun is supposedly very messed up in this way.

It's hard to find condensed info about it, but Aramini and the Alzabo group have discussed it in some podcasts.

>>15399999
>>15399994
your bitter resentment tells me the answer is no. thanks.

>>15399999
bro... what a waste of a get

>>15400061
The numbers don't lie... biatch.

>>15400098
Cringe bro.

Thoughts on Dictionary of the Khazars? It's fantastical, so I'm asking here.
It's really hard to get through, but it's pretty fascinating. I don't understand the importance between the female and the male edition though.

>>15399774
You keep asking the same question and I keep giving you the same answers. Why don't tell me what you already read?

>>15399430
they are OK comfort reading, you are basically reading subs off of the show and the translations for the first couple books are pretty bad

>>15400198
nothing that was published in the last 5 years. i look up many titles, read the blurb and first couple of pages, find it predictable and stale. i believe there are good books, but i don't know of them. so, i will look up any suggestions. ideally a book in the flavor of dune, lord of light, botns. obviously many authors try and fail to write such a book.

>>15400145
This looks interested (damned blurb bait).
I found this ebook though: Dictionary of the Khazars - A Novel-Lexicon in 100.000 Words (ANDROGYNOUS Edition).

>>15400257
>interesting
The Traitor Baru Cormorant
Children of Time
Arcadia by Iain Pears
The Medusa Chronicles
Early Riser by Jasper Fforde
The Fifth Season
Spaceman of Bohemia

>>15400262
I believe the androgynous edition contains both the female and the male editions. The difference between the two is just a paragraph that is incredibly easy to glaze over, and for the life of me I cannot understand its importance.

>>15400361
thanks, haven't heard of most of these. looking them up.

>>15400061
WHAAAAAAAT?

>>15400361
Adding Arcadia, Spaceman of Bohemia and Children of Time to my backlog.

Got any more fantasy-y recs?

>>15400361
kys, hugo tranny

>>15398514
Alice is entry level, it's literally a children's book

>>15397638
Ha people love me. I don't roast my qt friend for loving Hairy Potter I gave her a snitch for her birthday but if we're going to start talking high brow then standards must be applied.

>>15400871
Why would you call him a Hugo tranny? Given that list he strikes me as a run of the mill basedboy.
You have the fat angry black women there, the male feminist, the basedboy duo - all pretty standard.

>>15400900
Pls don't involve me in your creepy fantasy, kthnxbye.

>>15399449
Because it’s much better than abercrombie.

>>15401135
Trolling is supposed to be subtle.

>>15401183
> what if the old wizard is actually the villain
>what if the “crazy” barbarian is actually mentally unstable
>what if the hidden prince isn’t a hero but just a coward!

Abercrombie is the literary equivalent of Rian Johnson, substituting subversion of tropes for quality.

>>15401223
And how exactly is Bakker "2deep4u" and his failed philosophy degree not like Ruin Johnson?

>>15397837
11/22/63
dont read the dark tower or under the dome

A Wizard of Earthsea has always been recommended but I didn't know there was 6 books in this series. How many do I read?

>>15401316
0

>>15401267
Not him but just to name one aspect, the world feels much more alive in Bakker's. Even if it's ripped off (e.g., when the crusade marches on, I could picture that sprawling scene in Kingdom of Heaven with the sprawling of knights and banner), there's some effort put into the setting. Granted, there's some drop in quality after the third book, and the camp setting doesn't exactly allow for much originality.
Abercrombie, either deliberarely of through ineptitude, couldn't be more generic in world building, and as such it's 100% forgettable.
>>15401343
Go shitpost somewhere else, thanks.

>>15401316
Every single earthsea book is good but they change drastically in tone as the series goes on.
The version I downloaded (complete illustrated edition) has a foreword by Le Guin that explains a bit about how her approach changed in the many years between writing each book.

>>15400900
It's a highbrow children's book.

>>15392913
>magic systems
fucking play an rpg instead. you faggots ruin everything with your autism fuck. why does every other book have to be a puzzle of world building and magic systems nowadays. fucking zooms I swear gtfo of my genres.

>>15397837
>>15401303
read both of them, they're not his best but pretty good. his short stories are his best works though

>>15401526
magic not based on a well-defined and internally consistent system is just deus ex machina with special effects

>>15401570
Can you be an autist somewhere else?

Nice OP picture, FAGGOT

>>15401589
if you don't like fantasy you shouldn't be in this thread

>>15401612
How about you stop ruining fantasy with your autistic bean accounting? It's bad as it is, there is no need for imagination challenged like yourself. Why not read something more to your liking? Something like pic related.

>>15401612
If YOU don't like fantasy you should read another genre, like hard sf for example. We were perfectly fine before you sanderfags came along with your magic systems.

>>15401695
>if you like your magic not pulled out of the author's ass you are autistic
It seems you're a faggot that likes to butt munch. Make sure to suck all that shit the author spews in your face

Sanderson was in this general from day one. It's funny these newfags are trying to take over the general and behaving like Sanderson posting wasn't a thing, or that the archives don't have hundreds of discussions on Sanderson.
I'm sure it's the same literary faggots who are trying to subvert the general.

>>15397659
Gravity's Rainbow and Infinite Jest have some of that. Honestly I would read more Wolfe if I were you. Wizard Knight has a lot of linked mystery elements (there is a theory that the entire story is in the womb and the main character is slowly eating his twin). Long Sun has fewer than New, but Short sun has the most I would say. The intricacy of mystery in Short Sun is really impressive. Wolfe guesses where your mind will go with his references and plays off of them to create a beautiful web. Agia says in New Sun something like "I'm not good at solving puzzles, but I'm good at creating them for other people." You could view Wolfe as speaking through her there. If you are looking for similar webs, the original Deus Ex game and MGS are pretty good for that stuff too.

>>15401727
I am just saying you might be happier with something that won't frustrate you so much. I know you have trouble with metaphors and whimsical flights of fancy so common with fantasy.
No need to get mad.

>>15401747
>discussions on Sanderson
Calling him a hack doesn't really count as discussion.

>>15401546
Under the dome was terrible

>>15397837
Read Revival and 11/22/63

>>15400852
Bumping with this request

>>15402725
>>15400852
The Smoke of Gold is Glory
Someone here used to recommend The Library at Mount Char obsessively. While it ended up being quite unique, the book had a weak first part in my opinion and it had a sad air to it.
Not much more fantasy that interesting from the last 5 years that isn't overly discussed here to recommend. I've been reading less distinct works like Malazan on the fantasy side lately.

>>15401316
>dark-skinned protag
zero

>>15402891
>Lynch
I fell for Gentlemen Bastards and I think it's enough.
>Mount Char
That one was pretty fun. I also remember the spamming.

>>15402916
You could give Smoke a try. It's a snappy adventure only 40 pages long. No similarity to Gentlemen Bastards.

>>15400018
>Aramini
I guess he couldn't take us anymore.

Anyone read House of Leaves?

>>15400257
>>15399774
Try this, or don't.

BIRD BOI

>>15403336
What ever happened to him?

If he kept up that momentum he's probably done with his entire 20+ book series by now. Meanwhile I'm still chipping on my first draft

>finally finish book 3
THE
GODDAMN
CAT

Now I have to decide which trash to read next between:
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XBN9CCZ
or
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MXGKC2W

>>15403667
read the 2nd one I looked at it once and decided not to read it so I want to see if it's actually worthwhile

>>15401695
as an accountant, theres nothing stopping financial or accounting professionals from being creative, r.a. salvatore worked in finance before hitting it big

>>15401570
And if it's well defined and internally consistent it isn't magical

>>15397792
Halo lore is cool anon.

>>15397837
The Gunslinger is his best work. Most of it is fine though so if you just picked something at random you will probably be good. He is really talented despite what /lit/ tells you. He is just a scatterbrain and tends to lose focus halfway through a book. I think that would be why so many people don't like him.

>>15401570
Explain why this is bad.

>>15401570
It doesn’t need to be explicitly defined..

>>15403880
Spoken like a true readlet. If you were intelligent and read more, you would have known that Sanderson saying that magic would be consistent in some ways saved fantasy. I can't say enough how I hated it when an author wrote himself into a corner, then insulted his readers by pretending like everything he wrote before didn't happen by taking a fat wet shit in our faces to get his ending.
Having consistent magic forces the author into finishing their works by using what they laid down before. Sanderson made a lot of authors mad because he gained popularity with his laws, which means that they would stop swallowing their deus ex machina.

>>15404041
>saved fantasy

>>15401570
>magic not based on a well-defined and internally consistent system is just deus ex machina with special effects
you say it like it's a bad thing

>>15404000
>tell me stuff because I don't read for myself
>i take people's opinion in sffg as my own
>I was the anon who used to ask you guise what I should think of a book I just read, I've gotten smarter and just take your opinions as is

>>15404041
Are you a neckbeard STEMfag by any chance?

>>15393781
>Accelerando
Reading right now and it's MUCH better than I expected. I'm shocked it was published in 2005. It feels like it was written yesterday.

>>15404064
>I don't refute his claims
>I just answer with two words and a photo

>>15404095
>tell me stuff because I don't read for myself
No. I was asking you to explain your point. 4chan throws an awful lot of Latin phrases out there thinking it makes them sound intelligent. It doesn't. It just makes you sound like everyone else on here. 4chan, and the rest of the world it seems, is content with bastardizing the Latin language. All this for an easy mode way of "winning" an argument. Those phrases hold no value anymore. They are the equivalent of "no u." I just wanted to hear you out, Mr. Troglodyte.
>i take people's opinion in sffg as my own
Believe me I don't share anyone's opinion on here.
>I was the anon who used to ask you guise what I should think of a book I just read, I've gotten smarter and just take your opinions as is
Your ironic shitposting is just shitposting. You are what you post, anon. I don't see value in replying any further than this longer than usual post. Good luck with your future (You)s.

>>15400145
Never heard of it but now I've downloaded it and added it to the backlog

>>15404041
Shitty writers using deus ex machinas to get themselves out of a hole isn't a problem exclusive to fantasy, and taking the magic out of fantasy and replacing it with superhuman powers that can be broken down into quanta isn't going to stop hacks from writing stupid shit

tonight's the night /sffg/. Tonight's the night my first draft surpasses 100k words

wanted to get into fantasty, couldn't stand grrm's writing so I gave up in book 1, any good starter stuff in the genre that doesnt read like it was pulled from fanfiction.net?

>>15401695
I think asking for at least a reasonable degree of consistency is fair. I really don't see how it isn't.

I'm not asking for some fucking mathematic equations meant to properly explain every time a wizard queefs into a jar. I just want some understanding of how the world itself works in settings where magic is an abundant and commonly utilized resource.

>>15404303
this you fucking mongoloids jesus fuck

>>15404332
post some of it

>>15403749
Okay I'm going to bed. I'll read however far I get and let you know in the morning.
Night night anon. Hugs and kisses.

>>15404414
>I can’t tell you when I fell asleep, only that I was roused when Emma turned over. An arm fell over me and instinctively I squeezed her hand. Her fingers were like ice, her breath cold on the back of my neck. My pulse quickened as she lay her head on my chest, and then spiked into overdrive when she bit my nipple like it was made of pepperoni.

>>15404303
Also, at the end of the day the writer always holds all the cards. He wants to make some character OP? Well, he might design a necessary rule set in order to achieve that. The resolution for some scene requires a certain twist to make it more interesting or awe inspiring? He can always rewrite the rules during his writing process and you'd be none the wiser. Or, if it's too late (say, a poorly planned sequel) you can always move every single plot piece to achieve a realistic resolution with the rules you already set for yourself.
To be satisfied because it feels like less of deus ex machina and it's well constructed is just silly.

what goes through authors minds when they release cover art like this

>>15401316
at least the first one. I didn't like the other ones as much desu, but I revisit the first one every year or two
>>15403116
nice. I thought everyone had forgotten Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, I should re-read that one.
>>15404041
fuck it, I'll bite. Magic having explicit rules isn't inherently bad, but as >>15403880 pointed out, it loses any sort of mystique or flair that makes magic appealing to many fantasy readers; considering the definition of magic is "the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or supernatural forces." I feel inclined to agree that sometimes less is more, in terms of magical exposition.
Another problem with this kind of system is that the story now HAS to be about this magic system. It can't be a thing in the background that serves to enrich the characters or the setting, now the plot has to be about the magic system, or the amount of time explaining the magic system is wasted. With a story, you do want to set things up before having them pay off with a satisfying conclusion, but having every facet of a magic system explains also makes predicting the plot really easy, seeing as the story is now about the magic. Though I agree with you to an extent, claiming that these cut and dry magic systems "saved fantasy" is fucking absurd.

>>15404457
>when she bit my nipple like it was made of pepperoni
i coomed

>>15404560
It's not supposed to be hot anon. She's gone zombie in the middle of the night and is trying to rip his ribcage open

I just started talking about what I'm reading with a friend (BotNS) and it turns out that he wants to get into fantasy / reading. I recommended name of the wind thinking it would entertain him since he likes anime and manga, but he decided on BotNS for his first read, because I was reading it. I'm worried that it will turn him off from the genre. how fucked is he?

>>15396193
Is this one of those "It becomes clear on a reread" sort of things?

I read the passage the other day and it just seemed like they had sex a couple times in a row.

>>15404560
based cumbrain

>>15396124
Try this postmodern take on faeries:
http://www.scp-wiki.net/taboo

>>15404736
>how fucked is he?
Very.
>>15404775
>>15396047
Honestly, I've always felt their first time was consensual, if only pretty rough, I guess. I remember there was a time when Dorcas was not up to it in a later book (around the time of Hethor) and I don't remember if they still did it. I didn't connect any rapey thoughts about Dorcas in later books like with the other women. Not even on a second read.
The only explanation I can find at this point is it's just the unreliable narrator filter. Honestly, if you haven't finished the entire series there's no point in getting yourself spoiled big time.

>>15404475
>reading book 1 in the first place only to find yourself looking at book 2's cover

>>15404736
>how fucked is he
if he has a brain he'll like it, if not he'll probably drop it half way through and ask you what it was all about. the best you can do is figure out what the fuck is going on in that book the best you can

>>15404457

>
I would be curious to know what is the use of the copper kettle. The kettle might be of the teapot type or of the cauldron type. There are neither cups nor plates nor spoons in the room. So whatever was in the kettle it was probably not a meal. If it's not food or drink, does it have to do with the candle? Could it be the work of the Alchemist, in the form of "Pate"? We will return to "Pate" below. Here is one guess about what could be in the kettle.
Why are asoiaf theorists so autistic?

Which warhammer 40k books are the best?
I've read eisenhorn, siege of castillax, dead men walking, the 3 prequels about the fall of horus to chaos, know no fear, and fulgrim.

>>15405342
anything by Dan Abnett or Aaron Dembski-Bowden

>>15400018
Can you link a source for this? Sounds interesting.

>>15405852
>>15405852
>>15405852