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>wants to convince the public that industrial society was a mistake through the publication of his manifesto
>spends the first half on incoherent rants about strawman "leftists" and OBJECTIVE FACTS and SCIENCE
what did he mean by this?

>> No.15419324 [DELETED] 

what did he say about israel and jews?

>> No.15419890

>Ted was experiencing the desire to have a male-to-female operation. “Just then there came a major turning point in my life,” Kaczynski said. “Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope. I thought I wanted to kill that psychiatrist because the future looked utterly empty to me.”Kaczynski had been experiencing issues with gender identity. Compounded with his other mental issues, that must have made him a very unstable man. When he lost the nerve to tell his psychiatrist about his problems, he decided to isolate himself from society. From there, he began to work on his twisted ideology, ultimately deciding that he would have to bomb buildings to get his message out. He began an 18-year crime spree to bomb and attack society until people would listen to his demands.

Meanwhile he could always have sex with male dogs.

>> No.15420025

>If I catch the (expletive) alive I will see that it dies a slow, painful death. (referring to a rat but also indicative of the way his rape-victim dogs were killed)

>"When I see a motorcyclist tearing up the mountain meadows, instead of fretting about how I can get revenge on him safely, I just want to watch the bullet rip through his flesh and I want to kick him in the face when he is dying."

>"I believe in nothing. Whereas I don't even believe in the cult of nature-worshippers or wilderness-worshippers. (I am perfectly ready to litter in parts of the woods that are of no use to me - I often throw cans in logged-over areas)..."

>The technological society may be in some sense inevitable, but it is so only because of the way people behave. Consequently, I hate people.

>Occasionally I have bad dreams in which I am threatened with punishment from some supernatural source. Such as the devil.

What a wonderful person!

>> No.15420122

>The technological society may be in some sense inevitable, but it is so only because of the way people behave. Consequently, I hate people.

>Waah! People don't behave the way I want them to!
What a faggot.

>> No.15420128

ITT: Seething leftists.
None of his examples were strawmen, they were too charitable in fact to the radical left.

>> No.15420138

>>15419318
>>15419890
>>15420025
>>15420122
Here's your (You) big man

>> No.15420145

>>15419890
You realize he was experimented on at Harvard right? Was likely an early MK candidate.

>> No.15420173

>>15419318
I encourage everyone to throws his works into the fire, do it with as little regard for their value as he had for the people he killed.

>> No.15420196

>>15420145
You use the MK candidacy to remove your fears of Ted's transgenderic desires, yet you still follow ted DESPITE admitting that he was an MK candidate that clearly was not mentally stable?

>> No.15420214

>>15420196
I don't follow Ted at all lol.
I've read some of his other stuff, the stuff about his childhood with his brother and his issues with his brother's wife. He comes across as a very petty man who dwells on every moment he felt he was wronged. I understand he has nothing but time to relive these moments but the way he writes about them shows he is incapable of moving on or letting go. But the tranny angle just doesn't mean anything. It's the exact type of mindfuck you would expect someone who went through psychological abuse as a teenager to exhibit. Ted realized himself that the trans stuff was all bullshit, he was/is just a very confused and very damaged man.

>> No.15420218

Leftism and technology worship are intrinsically connected.

>> No.15420467

>>15420122
You're such a faggot lol, I bet there are ways you want people to behave. Just kill yourself.

>> No.15420485

>>15420173

FBI fuck off.

>> No.15420526

>>15419318
isn't the first half more meaningful and coherent than the second half?

He;s like the marxists; better at criticizing something than offering a working alternative
not that he's wrong

>> No.15420574

A good 80% of this thread are either FBI/CIA agents or seething over socialized leftists. None of which should be listened to.

>> No.15420591

>>15420173
The system which had no package security killed those people. He just exploited it. Also his Strawman is your average leftist that I've met at university and what pollutes the internet. Suck my dick faggot

>> No.15420607

>>15420526

How can criticism be wrong? The way in which I squash a bug isn't wrong, but the fact that I squashed the bug might be construed as wrong.

>> No.15420616

>>15420173
We aren't this retarded. Go home fed.

>> No.15420665

>>15420607
It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's just a tantrum. Babies throw tantrums when they're frustrated about random things, it's no different.

>> No.15420688

>>15420173
WAHHHHHH, HE KILLED PEOPLE SO HIS IDEAS MUST BE WRONG WAHHHHH

>> No.15420706

>>15420688
WAHHHHHH TECHNOLOGY ALIENATES PEOPLE SO IT MUST BE BAD WAHHHHH

>> No.15420717

>>15420706
when did I say I believe what ted does gayboy? I was just pointing out how retarded that post was.

>> No.15420739

>>15420717
WAHHHH I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LIKING TED TAKE IT BACK MEANIE WAHHHH

>> No.15420750

>>15420218

learn what "intrinsically" means

>> No.15420754

>>15420750
What does “intrinsically” means?

>> No.15420759

>>15420173
>muh precious dead monkeys
They were worthless sacks of shit and no one misses them. Utterly worthless

>> No.15420958

>>15420145
>>15420196
>>15420214

Typical normie narrative. MK had no effect on him at all. It's a complete meme. He says so himself. But yes, he was damaged.

>> No.15420986

>>15419890
Where's the desire to transition come from? Did Ted write about it? I know that he struggled dealing with women and social interaction, but where does the gender identity stuff come from exactly?

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15421046

Let’s discuss some of his writings

>> No.15421051
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>>15421046
Seems like he was predicting the modern gig economy.

Here’s some more

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>>15421051
And some more

>> No.15421059

>>15420958
>said so himself.
He's not good at self reflection. Read his work on his personal life and you will see this.

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>>15421055

>> No.15421082

>>15419318
You mean utterly BTFO’s Leftists out of the solar system. I have never read or heard such a destructive and definitive BTFO’ing in my life worse then the one Ted gives to the Leftists lol. It is complete anal annihilation of the Left. Interestingly, I believe if he hadn’t BTFO’d the Left to devastatingly he’s be regarded as an underground hero or champion of the Left. Maybe he knew that and made sure he dynamited their ass hole so they couldn’t lionize him.

>> No.15421087

>>15419318
little to close to home for you kiddo

>> No.15421221

>>15420173
glow more

>> No.15421239

>>15419318
He criticized leftists because they're literally the least likely to oppose the industrial system. Their slave morality and inferiority complex always leads to them being used and co-opted by the system. They can't make a dent in industrial society and in fact end up embracing shit like transhumanism because they hate nature. Their current crusade to destroy gender is just the first step in making it happen

>> No.15421291

>>15421082
this, where I live whenever there's some leftist protest and police becomes involved in it those leftoids will LITERALLY surrender to the police while still faking their big game of "oppression", with being dragged and forced, they don't even have any firearms, pepperspray, nothing like that. comparing their behaviour to Ted's "Psychology of Modern Leftism" and "System's Neatest Trick" made me realize that the left is a reactionary force and Ted was right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPBkgAASdqU

>> No.15421296

>>15421239
This guy gets it.

>> No.15421304

>>15419890
So instead of becoming yet another drugged up miserable tranny, he went into the woods and lived a happy and healthy life where he learned to love himself and the world?
Sounds about right.

>> No.15421311

>>15421239
He criticized liberals, not leftists. why does this entire board use the two words interchangeably?

>> No.15421313

>>15419318

Ted's own recount of MK Ultra in his written correspondences tells us that is was a basically innocuous psych experiment. He did not indicate it as being a source of trauma, or harmful to his well being.

I do not have the source saved unfortunately, you'll either have to take my word for it or look into an archive containing his letters which may or may not contain the info I am referencing

>> No.15421314

Its a filter for retards.

>> No.15421331

bros, anarcho-primitvism is like the most left

>> No.15421342

>>15421311
He explicitly criticises Leftism of the activist, theorising sort

>> No.15421399

>>15421311
You are looking for attention, shouting “There is meaningful distinction here! But you are all too stupid to see! I am smart and unique! Give me attention! I demand you give me attention! I feel entitled to be the smart one! Look at me! Look at me!” Look at you indeed.

>> No.15421434

>>15419318
I believe Teds anti-left rants are from the basis of ignorance since growing up in America and going through the education system in the peak of the cold war and engaging in MKultra experiments while at university would of left him with an inherent bias, I honestly believe if he was born today and read Marxist theory he would hold very different opinions on the left.

>> No.15421460

>>15421399
clueless

>> No.15421512
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>>15421434
>would of

>> No.15421563

>>15420173
No.

>> No.15421581

>>15421239
This.

>> No.15421616

>>15419890
>wanting to become a tranny in the 1970s
Sounds fake af. Only retards would believe this.

>> No.15421689

>>15421311
No he did not

>> No.15421696

>>15421434
Cringe

>> No.15421706

>>15420750
He's wrong about intrinsically because there are actually 2 options to satisfy the leftist's laziness.
Technology worship ala fully automated gay communism, or by emotionally manipulating people into doing work on your behalf

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>>15419318
>>spends the first half on incoherent rants about strawman "leftists" and OBJECTIVE FACTS and SCIENCE

>objective facts and science

neopositivist TED talk watcher pls go away. his leftist critique is on point.

>> No.15422008

>>15419318
The flaw with Ted's description of Leftism is that it too narrowly characterises the features of Leftism and the traits of Leftists so as to preclude a whole host of beliefs and behaviours salient today from falling under that umbrella. Chief of these is collectivism.
Ever since the cultural revolution of the 1960s political Leftism actually veered away from collectivism, towards what some thinkers like Henry de Lesquen call Cosmopolitanism. On the surface, we have two modes of expression of Leftism that appear at odds: one is collectivist and authoritarian; the other individualist and libertarian. But this ideology of Cosmopolitanism is nevertheless Leftist because its ideals are fundamentally egalitarian and utopian.
If you don't understand this you will have difficulty understanding the apparent contradiction between Ted's conception of Leftism as collectivism and the actual Leftists parading and screeching in the streets today. The gay pride parade, furry conventions, cosplayers are all manifestations not of collectivism but of individualism given free reign.
In fact, there is only a rise in collectivism insofar as certain ethnic minorities which display greater in-group preference are today in the ascendant both politically and demographically. But this feature of our globalised society, and the phenomenon of so-called multiculturalism itself, are demonstrations that society is becoming less collectivist as a whole because group cohesion is lost as society loses its ethnic homogeneity.

>> No.15422032

>>15421311
Most modern leftists are just liberal individualists, lol. All of their identitarianism and focus on equality is used against them by the industrial system, always has been since the 1960s. They inadvertently support the system with everything they do, that’s why neoliberal institutions promulgate social progressivism that leftists themselves advocate for (see the 1619 project getting a Pulitzer the other week for example)

>>15422008
Correct, but I think Ted’s criticism works well enough. He should have gone into more detail instead of a brief psychoanalysis

>> No.15422061

>>15419318
>Chad Kaczynski: btfo modern leftists with his dead-on analysis
-OP: hurrrrrewodllrDurrrr>>15420145
strawman

what did he mean by this?

>> No.15422069

>>15420173
You sound like a girl

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>>15422008
>>15422032
Ted took an almost psychoanalitical view on them, which isnt bad considering his time, when intellectual opposition to academic leftspeak was basically non existant.

In essence, leftism isnt defined by collectivism or individualism, its just basic post-christian ideology. Teds critique of leftism is more of a sociological/surface level one like "Intellectuals and society" of Thomas Sowell is.

>> No.15422323

>>15422092
this, the reason so many leftist """revolutionaries""" are so confused by it is because Ted's critique works in the domain of the unconcious, he digs out their unconcious neuroses and exposes their """revolution""" for what it really is

>> No.15422340

>>15419890
there's a 90% chance his ex-therapist made that up

>> No.15422359

>>15422069
Ted sounds like a girl

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>>15419890
None of this is true, obviously.
>leftists and trannies are so far removed from what's real or right they need to brazenly lie about the most obvious and established things and then accuse others of being insane to cope with their own mental illness not realizing this in fact furthers and ennobles reactionary thought against them
The absolute fucking state.

>> No.15422379

>>15421434
>if people weren't who they were then maybe they'd be stupid enough to sympathize with Marxists
lel

>> No.15422389

>>15422373
cope

>> No.15422412

>>15422359
Maybe an emo girl

>> No.15422414

>>15422008
>collectivist and authoritarian
requires an Us and Them. In terms of the healthiness of the basis of your Othering it likely goes heathens > foreign nationals > other races.

>individualist and libertarian
Is when it's "Just Us" so our us-and-themming instinct fractures into individual and subcultural differences

If you're going to criticise Ted and advocate for collectivism you'll have to propose a collectivism that's actually stable and desirable
>ethnic homogeneity
What's the point of your race war if you'll still end up with Cosmopolitanism after your race war ends, this time of culture (like the Reformation back in the day)

Just for the thrill of the hunt I'm guessing? Too bad about the nukes then, and it sounds like you should be studying missile defense instead of racial theory

>> No.15422430

>>15422414
>why is that healthy?
because genetic diversity is actually good for you if you are united in culture, as is implied by being collectivist/authoritarian. the problem in america today has its basis in culture more than race, but maybe you already knew that and aren't the /pol/tard im making you out to be

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>>15420145
>>15421313
>>15421434

>> No.15422543

>>15419318
Ted was literally autistic. You accuse him of strawmanning, but you're just making ad hominem attacks
>Bad man is bad so his arguments bad
You're a fucking smooth brain. His critiques are very cutting and pointed. You're just a faggot. As always tie a noose and hang yourself OP you're a fucking retard incapable of high brain function.

>> No.15422606

>>15421512
>>15421696
>>15422379
Have you read Kapital?

>> No.15422616

Really gonna have to post this every time you fuckers whine about why Ted attacked leftists:

https://youtu.be/SCwhlZtHhWs

THIS FIRST PART OF ISAIF IS A FILTER TO CULL OUT LEFTIST FUCKTARDS AND OP GOT FILTERED HARD LMAO

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15422636

So you got filtered by him describing your behavior

>> No.15422647

>>15419318
Like it or not he was spitting straight facts, you faggot. Everything he said about the modern left was correct.

>> No.15422860

>>15422414
Stop reading what's not there. First, the emphasis should be on invididualism, not collectivism. The point was to demonstrate that Leftism resides in individualism just as it can reside in collectivism, and that, furthermore, modern society is increasingly individualistic. The observation I made about the demographic trends of contemporary (Western) society merely illustrate that society as a whole is becoming more individualistic.
Ethnic homogeneity is desirable for all the obvious reasons, however, Ted probably believed that the ethnic factor was irrelevant to his anti-tech revolution, which strictly speaking may indeed be true.

>> No.15423532

what did Ted say that nobody else already said about leftism that makes leftists seethe so much?

>> No.15424019

>>15420122
It's not because of the way people behave. It's because people can serve their values better with technology than without technology, except when they're a lazy commie cunt like Ted.

>> No.15424036

Ted needs to be fucked with a knife like he did to that dog.

>> No.15424063

Forgive me gentlemen but I cant seem to locate a single argument refuting any of Uncle Ted's critiques on our left wing chums - am I blind or are there truly none to be found?

>> No.15424102

>>15420122
Same could be said for tragedy of the commons.
>wahh people ate all the fish
>wahh individuals acting in their own self interest created an artificial slave-master that can control human evolution

>> No.15425102

>>15419890
>Last century was all about Freudian sexual repression bullshit
>Now is all about transgender sentiments bullshit
daily reminder to kill your local psychologist and psychiatrist

>> No.15425134

>>15421239
>>15419318
Imagine cybernetic trannies winning this reality and overpowering primitivist goblinoids who think that they're naturally stronger and superior even though they're losing and being oppressed by literal ai trannies

>> No.15425135

Teds takes on leftism is some of the best ever written. Easy to read, easy to understand, it's clear and concise.

>> No.15425179

>>15420750
you intrinsically have dildo up your arse

>> No.15425220

>>15419318
Based
Ted is just killer lobsterman

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OP here, I appreciate all the rightoid butthurt and (You)s but what I was trying to get at is that going on off-topic rants is counterproductive when you want people to read your manifesto.

>> No.15425630

>>15425322
It wasn't off topic, there were many enviromentalist / anti technology movements at the time, and Ted wanted the reader to understand he wasn't related to them, and why he thought the other movements were a problem

>> No.15425653

You don’t even know what a strawman is, leftist.

>> No.15425711

>>15419890
>every single person is secretly a closeted tranny
t. insecure agp tranny trying to drag everyone else down with him to feel better about his disgusting fetish