/lit/ - Literature

>>15685202
Hit her.

Yes, it is called find another partner.

>>15685202
>Is there a book on making a girl respect and admire you?
this is why she disrespects you

Listen man, you need to set boundaries. If she can't respect your boundaries then you dump her ass.

>>15685219
Why?
>>15685225
I love her man

>>15685202
Apologize for making racist comments
As a woman she already feels marginalized by men and for you to use race as another confirmation of your privilege is salt on the wound

>>15685202
>Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

>>15685202
Weininger.

>>15685202
Yes it's called "How to not be an effeminate fuckwit" by Killus Y. Ursellf

>>15685234
Your asking a group of retarded anons to help salvage your relationship with a bitch.

>>15685202
Invite her to go camping and kill and bury her in the woods

>>15685202
Abuse her during sex

>>15685257
>immediately the first suspect once her family/friends realizes she's disappeared
>she probably talked with her friends about where she was going
yeah great idea faggot

>>15685241
Very obvious bait holy fuck imagine actually falling for this shit.

Or was I the one who was baited into replying to this bait because I had to laugh at how laughably dumb the content was?

Well played anon

>>15685273
That Anon is retarded. You have to dissolve her body in acid, they'd literally have no way of pinning you if you had a half decent story.

>>15685280
No I’m being serious

Have you tried being respectful?

I don't mean a doormat, but don't be a abusive either. That suggestion is stupid. Just communicate. If it's just her attitude maybe she'll try to lighten up for you. Or maybe she's contemplating dumping you. Who knows.
Communicate.

>>15685265
One time I said some nasty shit to my girlfriend in bed and whispered into her ear how she was just a hole for me to fuck. She ended up crying.

>>15685317

based

>>15685311
>I don't mean a doormat, but don't be a abusive either.
Now you’re just being unreasonable

>>15685311
Yea it’s important to rise above petty back and forth and lead the way toward what you want with this person, if you wanted them that is. I think that’s self respect, maybe address what it is that stops you from coming with this person, or away, and not against

>>15685202
yes. punch a stupid woman in da face.

>>15685311
>Have you tried being respectful?
Not like I'm specially respectful towards her more than others, but I'm not disrespectful either.

>>15685234
first relationship? she's gonna brake up with u before you have the balls to do it for something SHE FUCKING DID! happens to me anon gtfo and never look back

>>15685317
>She ended up crying
She got hurt?

>>15685311
>Have you tried being respectful?

Everyone look at this—this is why you don't take advice on women from women. Butters, fuck off.

Women don't care about you being respectful, they care about whether you're a man worth respecting. When they do these sorts of things they're testing your resolve to see what kind of man you are. OP, if you want to get yourself out of this pinch either grow some balls and tell her not to treat you that way or have a few drinks and do the same thing. Reading a book isn't going to do shit.

>>15685202
Is this a swiz girl?

>>15685368
>Women don't care about you being respectful, they care about whether you're a man worth respecting
I trust anon isn’t stupid enough to be with a woman who picks and chooses who she respects as a human being

>>15685202
Choke her with your dick
Make her beg for your seed
Don't let her cum until she has your permission

>>15685202
Yes. It is called ''Grow a backbone you fucking faggot''

>>15685368
>have a few drinks and do the same thing.
Terrible advice.

>>15685317
Different girls react differently to things like dirty talk. I had one girlfriend who was a huge slut; had slept with a bunch of guys, would bang at the drop of a hat, etc., but if you talked about having sex she'd get weirded out by the word "fuck" or "fucking." My current girlfriend is much more outwardly proper, not nearly as sexually experienced, and yet casually talks about "fucking," "getting fucked," and so on.

>>15685409
>had slept with a bunch of guys, would bang at the drop of a hat, etc., but if you talked about having sex she'd get weirded out by the word "fuck" or "fucking."
Yikes

>>15685404
If you give off an air of obsequiousness then she'll just double down on disrespecting you. If you're an anxious guy, drinking will help you give less of a shit, and you can be dismissive of her when she tries to start shit. Women like guys who don't give a shit because it exudes strength and control.

If your girlfriend isn’t your friend she’s not your girlfriend.
/thread

>>15685311
butterfly being the only correct person on the thread once again

>>15685425
>If you give off an air of obsequiousness then she'll just double down on disrespecting you.
Good, then you can feel easy about leaving her
> If you're an anxious guy, drinking will help you give less of a shit, and you can be dismissive of her when she tries to start shit. Women like guys who don't give a shit because it exudes strength and control.
Sounds like the woman you’re talking about settle for someone who pretends to care about them

>>15685403
What the fuck do you mean by growing a backbone? What, I will take a ''no u'' approach like a 5 year old and start treating her the same way? That's your solution?
I'm looking to see the root of the problem. Maybe it's something about my personality, which I'm looking to find out, that's why I asked for a book, a relationship book perhaps?

>>15685202
Beat the fuck it off her then treat her nicely.

>>15685284
Btw OP this isn’t true you can tell unless you do a lot of finagling to basically have multiple people believe, reliably, that you are one place while you are another. You’ll have to pick a tub/vat that isn’t likely to be connected with you and that most likely won’t be too close. Feeding her to pigs would be cheaper and more effective, but killing your lover is a good way to get caught. You would be better off taking her to increasingly dangerous places. Hell with wuflu still raging, just take her outside and if she’s any kind of unhealthy she’ll at the very least get fucked up and become more reliant on you. Then she’ll have to respect you out of fear of losing you

>>15685457
Yes, it is something about your personality. Something you aren't suppose to rationalize. Some things are meant to be acted, not debated. Grow a backbone, don't let her do what you don't want her to. You are supposed to be the man of the relationship, you are not equals, there are things only she is able to do and things that only you are, and you are simply not recognizing that vital difference. Being the authority and deciding the limits is something you were supposed to do a long time ago. As I said, grow a fucking backbone, it doesn't matter if you read 50 books a year but is unable to show courage and virility.

>>15685502
I’d rather be loved then feared

>>15685317
Fucking kek
I've fucked a black chick and gone on some weird raceplay "You like that white dick? You want me to breed you like the worthless slut you are? You know you're just a hole, right?" shit and had her love it, but I also fucked this other chick who I called a cumdump during sex and she told me after that her feelings got hurt.
Different chicks like different things.

>>15685352
That's good. Maybe she's just generally bitchy. I know a couple of guys who are sharp-tongued comedian types. It's their way of dealing. Which is better than being bullies, but they're hard to be around sometimes.

>>15685202
There might be, but a book isn't going to fix that. Either have a serious, upfront discussion about it (if you've been together for a while), actually be someone naturally worth respecting, or leave.

>>15685514
Cringe. I have literally said nothing but sweet nothings into her ear
>you love me? Say it? Say my name
> you are so fucking beautiful
>yes baby
>I love you
>look at me

you guys be straight talking shut wtf is that

>>15685545
>having rough, kinky sex
>proceeding to have a functioning, respectful relationship when not inside of her
Where is this cringe, anon? Though I do also pull the "look at me" line, your shit is cringy as fuck and if you're the OP it's why you get fucking walked all over lmao

>>15685545
Maybe she wants a real man to pull her hair and fuck her.

>>15685569
You are so deluded. But then again so must your partners since they go along with your cringey behavior. There’s nothing dirty about sex, and good sex is loving and passionate, not abusive and degrading. You will realize this when you grow up

>>15685593
Pulling her hair makes he feel good, chocking her and cumming on her face she likes, and if I go soft she like to him give me ass to pound, but never would I be so ducking stupid as to call her a cumdump while I’m dumping cum because that’s retarded

>>15685596
This. Probably they're larping

>>15685610
Yeah, I do admit that one was a bit cringier. In any case though, I legitimately don't understand how raceplay can be that enjoyable either, I just play everything by ear and go with what the single braincell I have that stays on during sex tells me to say

>>15685639
>You like that you dirty cumdump
wtf is wrong with you dude. You should apologize to whoever u said that too

It's not a secret among women that they actually like being put in their place, and there's nothing worse to them than a man that bows to their every whim. Man up.

hit her retard

>>15685649
Nah, she was a piece of shit in the end anyway, and I'm certainly not about to take relationship advice or moralizing from 4chan, kek
Plus this was years ago

>>15685368
based

>>15685654

hit them, you fucking faggots.

>>15685654
>women
Those women you are talking about developmentally impaired. How are you going to build an empire and raise children with a sense of dignity and self respect when you have to assert dominance over a voluntary weak individual? You wont

>>15685660
Cringe

>>15685202
>too disrespecting and dismissive of me at times
any more concrete example of this?

>>15685660
based and redpilled

>>15685677
>Those women you are talking about developmentally impaired.

They're not. They just don't want men to be overly agreeable in everything. Bear in mind I'm not even talking about alpha male shit, here. Women don't want to be treated like queens, they want treated as equals.

>>15685234
you love her man? you're gay for her bull?

>>15685693
No body is “putting me in my place” and I extend that respect in the same way that I demand it. And btw, correcting someone and degrading someone are not ever the same thing

>>15685202
The Night Land by W.H. Hodgson.

>My gf is too disrespecting and dismissive of me at times. Is there a book on making a girl respect and admire you?

>>15685202
I'm married and have been with her for a while. Unironically you need to put your hands on her. Not hit her. But when you play fight or when the opportunity presents itself hold her down and put your hand around her throat. Don't be threatening but it's a reminder that you could kill her at anytime and she could do nothing about it. It's cringe but that's how women are, that's what they want. Also be dismissive of her too and when she says stupid shit call her out "biiiitch what" if she cries tell her she's being stupid.

>>15685696
>you love her man? you're gay for her bull?

>>15685712
If that’s what she wants then your a fool. If she doesn’t immediately put you in check you’re dealing with someone who has no self respect. Imagine this woman raising your daughter? You be ok someone doing that to her?

>>15685703
>No body is “putting me in my place”
If you were being disrespectful, I certainly hope they would. Bear in mind, I'm not talking about violence which I know you're already assuming I was. All I'm saying is that it isn't proper form for a man, for example, when being bitched at for no real reason, to just take that shit and not say his piece.

>>15685743
You have no idea what’s right for man. And if a man is incapable of knowing and acting on what he believes is the best he has way bigger problems then some bitch

>>15685716
there's a difference between
>I love her, man
AND
>I love her man

>>15685773
Slow down with the onions milk there

>>15685743

>>15685786
??????

>>15685773
>You have no idea what’s right for man.

Alright then. Continue to be a doormat, I guess. I will leave you with this, though: there's a large difference between correcting someone and degrading someone, and you can certainly correct your woman without degrading.

>>15685806
> I'm a parent. I haven't got the luxury of principles

>>15685797
The wordfilter doesn't like the word soi with a y

>>15685202
>anons
Just beat your woman bro
>butters
Have you tried being respectful to the woman disrespecting you?

The middle ground is what you want. Yes communicate your issues, but you need to do so immediately and be firm and willing to take a stand. Accept you fucked up and this relationship is over. You will never regain her respect, if you ever even had it. I recommend you attempt to put her in her place (where she respects you as a partner) without getting physical as practice for your next relationship before you leave her.

>>15685825
>Accept you fucked up and this relationship is over. You will never regain her respect, if you ever even had it. I recommend you attempt to put her in her place (where she respects you as a partner) without getting physical as practice for your next relationship before you leave her.
Don’t listen jackass lol
Man enjoy your life. If that means without her what exactly did you lose?

>Control t "Hit": 20 results
>Control f "rape" 0 results
You're slackin /lit/

>>15685841
The problem with rape is that in degrading her she has a negative self image of herself, and then she’s incapable of being strong and resorts to what the other anons describe as bitching but is really weak persons attempt at strength. Only troubled women put up with that kind of behavior, and there’s always a sad story behind it. You are perpetuating their unresolve, and postponing the day they meet someone who will actually love them.

My girlfriend is the only person who gets excited when I tell her about cool birds I saw.

>>15685940
She gets horny? I see you carrying your binoculars everywhere lol

>>15685703
your relationship with a woman is not meant to be one of equals.

>>15685725
women are not men, faggot. why don't you just start seeing dudes, it's clearly what you want in a partner.

>>15685958
Of course not, I’m a man she’s a woman. We are not equal in form but we are in kind. As human beings we are equal. If I’m this is hard for you to understand then I suggest you picking up the Bill of Rights

>>15685973
Substance isn’t expensive

>>15685234
Dump her

>>15685953
What? No. She likes when I tell her about seeing Warblers and stuff.

kek they shopped her fat nose

>>15685202

I love breasts, hard full breasts, guarded by a button. They come in the night. The bestiaries of the ancients which include the unicorn have kept them out. Pearly, like the east an hour before sunrise, two ovens of the only philosopher’s stone worth bothering about. They bring on their nipples beads of inaudible sighs, vowels of delicious clarity for the little red schoolhouse of our mouths. Elsewhere, solitude makes another gloomy entry in its ledger, misery borrows another cup of rice. They draw nearer: Animal Presence. In the barn the milk shivers in the pail. I like to come up to them from underneath, like a kid who climbs on a chair to reach a jar of forbidden jam. Gently, with my lips, loosen the button. Have them slip into my hands like two freshly poured beer mugs. I spit on fools who fail to include breasts in their metaphysics, stargazers who have not enumerated them among the moons of the earth... They give each finger its true shape, its joy: virgin soap, foam on which our hands are cleansed. And how the tongue honors these two sour buns, for the tongue is a feather dipped in egg yolk. I insist that a girl stripped to the waist is the first and last miracle, that the old janitor on his deathbed who demands to see the breasts of his wife for one last time is the greatest poet who ever lived. O my sweet yes, my sweet no, look, everyone is asleep on the earth. Now, in the hush, drawing the waist of the one I love to mine, I will tip each breast like a dark heavy grape into the hive of my drowsy mouth.

>>15685995
Oh cool she’s seems based
or
is that type to giggle and play cute to your quirky behavior because it feeds into dichotomy between men worthy of respect and not worthy of respect

>>15685868
pseud garbage lmao

>>15685202
The next time she outright disrespects you, do this.

1. Immediately cut all contact with her. Do not answer calls, block her on messaging apps and social media
2. Stay like this for a week
3. After a week, unblock her. When she contacts you (she will), talk to her like nothing has happened.

If she continues to disrespect you, repeat this process, but now with a longer cooldown. She either will start to treat you as a man or the relationship will end, and it will be for the best.

>>15686045
are you registered? Lol

The Bible.

>>15685976
>unironically muh bill of rights
what a fucking clown you are. differences extend beyond form.

>>15686046
this is even gayer behaviour than just accepting it. threaten implicitly to demonstrate your physical differences upon her would she dare do it again.

>>15686046
I got a better ideA
>The next time she outright disrespects you, do this.
tell her very clearly how you feel. If she continues you explain to her that while you may be willing to compromise, she is not. And she will come back and apologize for her own sake, or try to explain it off- either way, depending on how much you love her it will be in your hands whether to forgive her or not, she will know this. This is what correction looks like. >>15686046 this anon obviously works for the cops and thinks emotionally incarcerating people is how you “cut down on” attacks

>>15686058
They extend endlessly. Where there is common ground there is kindness and equality, eye to eye. You’ve obviously never been with a real woman yet you play like you know better, whose the clown?

>>15686046
do this, OP

>>15686072
>>15686073
t. unexperienced
the only thing that will make a woman respect a spineless fuck like OP is dread

>>15686096
t. Muggle

No, there is no book to help you. What you need to do is get /fit/, start dressing properly, and stop being an autist. You need to have a lot of female friends, or at least "close acquaintances" and make her feel insecure and realize that you can do better. If you can't do better, that's what the earlier stuff is for: being able to do better. If you have to fuck her best friend, so be it. Do what it takes, establish dominance.

>>15685209
fpbp
>>15685215
cucked
>>15685219
true

>>15686130
No. You need to be the best guy in the room for her. You don’t need to role play

>>15686140
>Improve yourself so she doesn't feel like she can walk all over you
>Roleplay
Actually improving isn't roleplaying, next thing I know you're going to tell me that reading makes one a pseud

>>15686073
How clueless are you? OP clearly is a "let's discuss our feeling" type and that hasn't been working. In fact, that hardly ever works.

When dealing with a woman, you don't presume her to be a rational being. In fact, you do the exact opposite: treat her like a child and it will probably work the best.

Like a said, the only way to turn this around is to show her how life without you will be. If she has an ounce of love towards you, she will compromise and stop acting like a bitch. If she doesn't, she will dump you and, like I said, that will be the best for both of you.

>>15686145
I agree to that part but everything else is pure pre sufferage sophistry

>>15686046
>blocking
just ignore

>>15686140
ok Mr Green

>>15686151
The presence of other women adds some amount of realization of what one has, especially when it comes to something that takes time, such as getting fit.
For him, it'll hopefully make him less of a little bitch and he'll realize his worth.
For her, it'll hopefully make her less of a bitch and she'll realize his worth.
Alternatively this was all clever bait or they'll just break up soon anyway, but even if that's the case, at least he'll have improoved

>>15686149
>OP clearly is a "let's discuss our feeling" type and that hasn't been working.
That was never established but go ahead

> When dealing with a woman, you don't presume her to be a rational being. In fact, you do the exact opposite: treat her like a child and it will probably work the best.
Maybe if your light years ahead of her and in the beginning your a bit more father than daddy, but a woman who will put up that kind of behavior has serious issues and if you want to save her from that life yes you gotta be still sargeant but fuck man that’s no way to live

> Like a said, the only way to turn this around is to show her how life without you will be
It’s called a hiatus it’s not a big deal and if the love is real and there’s real work that’s been put in, even if you guys leave each other you would be doing wrong to yourself by disregarding what’s good, which is leaving on good terms. Even if she’s a total psycho bitch, you still have it in you to be the bigger person

>>15686173
Don’t hide petty power plays behind self improvement, we know how to read on /lit/

>>15686164
That’s Dr Green

>>15686194
>we know how to read on /lit/
kek no
Anyway, it's not a petty power play if it works, all relationships feature a power dynamic and he needs to capitalize on it and stop her from capitalizing on him being a pussy

>Why women see you as a beta male

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6ucjoAMVLo

>>15686096
i literally said threaten to beat her.

>>15686227
>only threatening
NGMI

>>15686215
Is this a relationship or a business?

>>15686086
you speak like a woman. you will never find contentedness in a relationship if you imagine yourself and women to be equal, even more so when you begin to think and act as one. you're not going to make it.

Kek

>>15686243
t. voluntary inferior

>>15686173
women don't think like that. she will not mind sharing if she thinks you'll still be with her: and that you are doing all this self improvement meme stuff to impress her, she know's you will.

>>15686243
I speak like a man who knows what a real woman is worth

>it's another thread full of men who believe they have exhaustive knowledge of the female psyche despite never having had a girlfriend or even a close female friend, who have gleaned their "knowledge" from reading blogs written by bitter middle-aged divorced men,

Why yes, when I am looking for help grasping problems in math and philosophy, I also go to the local care home for people with debilitating intellectual disabilities, they are the best to give that advice. When it is the culinary arts in which I need advice, I will ask freshmen in college, as their expert knowledge of when to add the flavour-powder to their instant noodles surely will help me master my coq au vin. Were I at an impasse to master the works of Beethoven, I would walk past my local construction site, and ask the best truck driver there, for surely, he is the one who has the knowledge I seek.

>>15686269
why are you projecting?
I've been married for over 5 years

>>15686269
tl;dr

>>15686269
>Were I among my peers I would chance at their advice
what’s your point

>>15686130
>female
>friends
>>15686182
>Maybe if your light years ahead of her and in the beginning your a bit more father than daddy, but a woman who will put up that kind of behavior has serious issues and if you want to save her from that life yes you gotta be still sargeant but fuck man that’s no way to live
you live in a fucking fantasy. that is exactly how normal women are. i can not even fathom how pozzed by enlightenment faggotry one must be to ignore that. you next bit of nonsense about her "real love" confirms that you must be as described. no man with any self respect would take a "hiatus."

>>15686286
>I’m gonna work hard for a normal woman
ya no

>>15686254
>>15686261
>real woman
post tits.

>>15686298
post something worth responding to

>>15686295
you seriously are just a faggot. you thought normal, healthy female behaviours was strange or unhealthy and when corrected you still attempt to contrive a reason to avoid them. your magical, equal, man-with-tits woman does not exist, stop wanting a relationship with a female to be like a friendship with a male.

>>15686273
Dumb reasoning, lazy insult.
>>15686277
Dumb ADD-tier retard brain.
>>15686281
Dumb, reread it.

>>15686310
Post tits

>>15686319
just because you're an incel doesn't mean everybody around you is equally inexperienced

>>15686314
I’ll be honest, it’s difficult to take you seriously. Let me tell you, being in harmony with someone is real, whether that’s a man or a woman. Love is love, and you have serious issues if you can’t believe that. My condolences

>>15686245
The swimming cap is for swimming through pussy

>>15686046
>How to get your woman to fuck other guys
You are a fucking retard my man. Seriously, don't do this lmao

>>15686335
Cap ain’t necessary when they ain’t in your hair nawm sayin

>>15686329
Just because you repeat your boring insult doesn't mean that the general tendency of incels redpill eaters acting like sages of the female mind is false

>>15686331
"harmony" is not equality. post tits.

>>15686359
it's all they have. anon is either a woman or a so called man irreversibly faggotized.

>>15686360
Harmony is balance of two sides, equal in measure. Why are you so stupid?

>>15686336
Wrong. Cheating is a consequence of lack of respect.

>>15685311
Go away you stupid insect

>>15686371
Cheating is a consequence of not knowing the answer

>>15686359
unlike you, most people who are into "redpill" shit actually have been with women.

>>15686379
No, it's lack of respect.
First she will be passive-agressive. Then she will outright insult you. The she will demean you. If she really lacks respect, she might cheat you. If you fail to put her in check, she might defraud you or even kill you, which is the ultimate display of lack of respect.

>>15686381
You guys really see women as this separate species lol

>>15686371
Women don't even understand the meaning of respect, so it doesn't factor into cheating with them at all. Women cheat because they can, so they do. If her boyfriend decides to "show her a lesson" by giving her the cold shoulder for a week, she would just use that free time to fuck several guys from Tinder until he comes back and she can pretend she learned her lesson. You're giving women way too much credit. They are psychologically similar to psychopathic children. That's not to say that women can't be "good", but they need strict structure, discipline, training, and someone holding them accountable for their actions.

>>15686387
<She> Is not worth it. I wouldn’t even close that book I would straight up throw it out the window on the freeway

>>15686390
Yes.

>>15686396
I know this is true for normies and it’s soooo fucking cringe lmao sorry but this is not ok and that it’s normalized is not surprising, I don’t live under a rock, but I was under the impression that OP thought there was something salvageable. What you describe as women non operating machines

>>15686403
Try adding some punctuation into this statement and posting it again, because your point is undecipherable in this context.

>>15686401
You came from a woman, fed by a woman, cleaned by a woman, raised by a woman, cared for by a woman, lived by a woman, and yet you don’t recognize a woman. Sad

>>15686410
I know this is true for normies and it’s soooo fucking cringe lmao sorry but this is not ok and that it’s normalized is not surprising, I don’t live under a rock, but I was under the impression that OP thought there was something salvageable. What you describe as women are non operating machines

>>15686413
>You came from a woman, fed by a woman, cleaned by a woman, raised by a woman, cared for by a woman, lived by a woman
If modern women actually still did half of these things, I would likely respect them much more.

>>15686413
>You came from a woman, fed by a woman, cleaned by a woman, raised by a woman, cared for by a woman, lived by a woman
how does any of that advance the argument that men and women are similar?
quite the contrary, the fact that we are no able to give birth or childbear shows we are different

>>15686423
Ok good job
Modern women, I know what you mean
There are still aborigines out there, I believe in you. As for me I like my women post modern if not full blown muslim

Read this

They have dignity before God, and are worthy of our respect, but of all that constitutes a man, woman was made from his rib alone.

>>15686426
They are similar in kind, they are like each other despite their form. Not just the form of their genitalia, but their race, culture, favorite vegan restaurant or cringey rapper

>>15686429
It's a book that promotes unhealthy relationships. It never talks about a healthy relationship with yourself. It only talks about how you can use the external world of women to boost your ego to a point where you can feel secure in your skin.

It doesn't teach you a thing or two about becoming a healthy human being.

>>15686381
It is remarkable that you think the insult of virginity is so powerful. Three times now, like some primitive savage doing a magic ritual. It betrays you more than you realize.

>most people who are into "redpill" shit actually have been with women
Most people all in all have been with women. The vast majority. Within this vast majority, a small minority has been with women while simultaneously trying to emulate sociopathy. The redpilled mind takes this as evidence that it is their strategy that works, that there is a direct causal relationship between the strategy of this minority and their outcoumes, ignoring the broader picture, because they are retarded, and cannot do even basic reasoning. They then get themselves stuck in a worldview that precludes them from ever experiencing actual, bona fide intimacy and love. They will insist that it is actually impossible, again ignoring the experiences of the vast, vast majority, who get the girl without turning himself into a sociopath.

You are retarded beyond belief.

>>15686417
Much appreciated.
>What you describe as women are non operating machines
Women are essentially blank canvases, and this is an psychological evolutionary trait. See, since the beginning of the human species until very recently, women were essentially a breeding commodity, and nothing more. Your tribe would attack a different tribe, wipe out the men, and take the women to bear your tribe children. Women developed as blank canvases in order to cope with this way of life (which like I said has lasted for nearly 200,000 years of our existence, so is very ingrained in our neurology). They could be abducted as the spoils of war, and immediately fit into the society/culture of their captors. They could willingly bear the children of the warrior who cut the throat of her husband and bashed her baby on the ground less than several weeks prior. That is what it means to be a woman, and this has not changed.

>>15686429
We men are deprived from emotional support from a very young age. As little boys we stop getting smiled at, we stop being treated as kids with the phrase;"man up, big boys don't cry" this can happen as early as age 5 or 6. A time in which we are still very dependant on emotional support.

this creates an emotional black hole of un-met needs and desires of emotions. That's why we sometimes crave women so much, because they have a more healthy emotional system. they get support from their girlfriends, they get smiled at more often, and listened to.

whereas we men, to console each Other we help each Other with numbing the pressing pain of that void by, for example, Alcohol, or watching sports.

This book is so bad in that it tells you to go and get all the women so that you finally may think you're enough. That you may finally feel 'alpha'. Yet In that journey there is only strife. It's a place where women will not feel safe around you, nor men. Nor will you ever feel safe around them, because It's a single winners game, which means everyone else is a loser. And lest you want to be in the loser group you always have to be on edge.

A book like this basicly keeps you in a forever loop trying to fill that void by covering it up with layers of tricks and manipulations. External world adaptations for your internal problem.

But that's not what eventually gives anyone a healthy and sustainable relationship.

This emotional black hole problem is universal in all men. (A few exceptions here and there) All of us have experienced this lack. Women haven't experienced this and so they cannot hear us, or share our vision on this.

A more healthy approach is to take care of your emotional black hole with other men. Because they will understand you. Take the time to really listen to your brothers and open up. Soften, hug, cry. And when a brother does that, give him a safe space from understanding. It's crucial to not try this with women around because they do just simply NOT understand what It's like.

When you have taken care of your emotional needs you can meet a woman on equal grounds. Your 'needyness' dissolves instantly and you'll be able to fully embrace your inner masculine side because It's supported by your own inner feminine.

It will stop the need for us all to always chase and want women's attention. It will make you a man who's attractive, whole and grounded. A force to be reckoned with.

>>15686450
You are a retard

>>15686460
In what way? Use your big boy words.

>>15686463
You are dumb

>>15686321
Holy based

>>15686429
>written by a fat, balding, divorced, bitter, middle-aged man whose professional work is dealing with histrionic promo-girls in Las Vegas
Surely, this researcher and his data are generalizable to the entire species, he even did some speculative evolutionary psychology to ground his experiences post-hoc.

I was into this shit when I was 17, and I am thoroughly ashamed of it, and very, very happy that I never mentioned it publicly in any capacity.

>>15685202
Listen Anon. If you find her behavior disrespectful, you should communicate this to her. If she doesn't respect your personal feelings, then you end the relationship. You owe it to yourself to be in a caring relationship of mutual respect. Do not damage yourself by settling for toxicity Yes, you may love her, but don't fall for the mistake of thinking your current love is the only love. Love is multifaceted and can be experienced again and again and it is wonderfully unique each time. That's why it's so beautiful. But to experience this love, you need to first love yourself and do what's healthy.

>>15686468
So you have nothing to rebut my claim? So by default you admit I am correct. I accept your concession. I hope you learned something.

>>15686472
What is wrong with you?

Do you have any leverage? Sometimes man, when she’s paying the bills and sucking your dick everynight at her place you just gotta save it

>>15686482
continue to have this conversation by yourself

>>15686472
Based

>>15686483
CRIIIIINGEEEY

>>15686493
I essentially already was, since your presence offered literally nothing to the discourse.

>>15686498
You're an idiot

>>15686493
>>15686498
fucking WRECKED

>>15686451
I agree with your general assessment of male psychology and why we are like this, but I think you're missing the point of Rational Male.

You see, Tomassi also knows exactly what you're talking about. However, he comes from the perspective that sexual dynamics are FUBAR. He's not attempting to repair the damages unbridled hypergamy has imposed on the West; he's not trying to come up with a Fight Club-esque arena for men to bond and express their inner femininity and to achieve health.

What he does, instead, is to help you navigate the landscape of modern relationships. It's a pragmatic work, it's cynical, not idealistic.

My point is you and Tomassi might have similar worldviews, but you have an irreconciliable difference when it comes to how you want to aproach said problems.

>>15686498
The power of words

>>15686472
You failed to provide any meaningful arguments.

>>15686516
Fuck that book and fuck you bitch

>>15686403
no. they are just not men and you, evidently, are not capable of understanding what is not exactly like yourself.

>>15686522
>implying I’m a fucking retard like you

>>15686522
I understand my dog quite well. He likes his belly rubbed and needs his alone time under the bed here and there

>>15686521
Very emotional, feminine response. Why are you so triggered?

>>15686450
based

>>15686530
Omg please don’t call me feminine someone might hear you

>>15686450
>WE ARE FUCKING MAMALS BRO. YOU KNOW

>>15686451
soiposting beyond comprehension. boys are more emotionally coddled now than ever before, and that is exactly how weak faggots such as you come to exit, because before you simply would have been beaten or killed.
again, because no one on this post seems to get this, MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME.
the reason you are unsuccessful with women is because deep within them they understand that you are too week to protect them from event he elements, and certainly so from men.

>>15686498
based

>>15686521
post tits
>>15686526
post tits.

>>15686538
Yes.

>>15685311
i´m with you on this one but you´ve worded it extremely poorly for this board

>>15686551
>soiposting beyond comprehension
Really

> boys are more emotionally coddled now than ever before
Good if that’s true

> and that is exactly how weak faggots such as you come to exit, because before you simply would have been beaten or killed
You have some warped view of living a life struggle and survival. You obviously have no idea what your talking about. Violence breaks people. Those dudes who grew up with mom and dad, in a nice house in a safe neighborhood but front like they seen shit is a role. Real struggle is a wound it’s not some ducking adrenaline rush. GTA canceled

> MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME.
They can be made to be equal

> the reason you are unsuccessful with women
Conjecture

> is because deep within them they understand that you are too weak* to protect them from event he elements, and certainly so from men.
Anyone who knows me knows this isn’t even remotely true. I can’t speak for others but a woman who is in fear of her life needs to own a firearm not muah Thai instructor

>>15686451
>emotional support men should cry blah blah blah
Males have been given this same garbage feminist advice for the past 30 years, hasn't fixed any (it has exacerbated all of) of the supposed problems it was meant to solve

You all are hopeless. the edgeposters are going nowhere fast, and the onions are actively self-destructive.
Board prognosis: NGTMI

>>15686574
I’m sorry but the world you live in is a lie

>>15686578
awesome, thanks for chiming in cocksucker

>>15686571
it's genuinely sad to see how effeminate and weak modernity has made men. go back.

>>15686584
SEETHE

>>15686593
How do we make them see the error of their ways though?
I think it might be too late for some

>>15686604
the normalcattle experience a total reversal in principles if that's the way the wind of survival and reward blow. if they are put in a situation where their nonsense leads straight to pain or death, where they are not protected by society, they will experience a stark change. that is not going to happen though. we're basically fucked. enjoy watching it i suggest.

>>15686593
>>15686604
That’s the issue with egotistical adults. The world is not about us it’s about the kids. We are cheating these kids, who will be the next generation. Have made time to actually observe boys and girls? You do realize how vulnerable they are? If you want to know how bad we failed as a society to our children just look at yourself. We all deserved better. Whose gonna break the cycle? It’s gonna be someone who doesn’t settle for normal

>>15686617
>the wind of survival and reward
blow it out your ass

Lift. Women will respect you to a degree incomparable to before as you approach a truly Baki-esq physique.

>>15685202
They photoshopped her nose. . . . Albeit a bit more bulbous, it looked a lot better before.

>>15686618
post tits.

>>15686649
>implying I enjoy that kind of attention
Do it for yourself, regardless of what anyone thinks. Lifting for pussy is pussy shit

>>15686618
family is an abomination, prison, those who "have" "children" deserve what's coming. easy cum easy go.

>>15685202
dump her

>>15686654

>>15686659

>>15686657
cringe

>>15685202
Grow a pair of fucking balls

>>15685202
How long have you been with her?
>implying she is a real person and not some person your stalking like a degenerate bimbo

>>15685202
I would never be with someone who treated me like that, for their sake. It wouldn’t be pretty. If she had years on me then I may be more patient, but a man like me has zero patience for outright disrespect. I love all people, but I could never be in love with someone like that. That behavior is a issue you need to stem out. Is it rooted in you, something you did or doing? Or is this “how she is”? If the latter you need to drop her off at her moms with a receipt

>>15685202
Domostroy