/lit/ - Literature

>>16010340
Sane occultism does not exist. Only mildly-stable occultism.
t. seen some shit

>>16010348
I’ve read a lot of occult books but this one absolutely takes the cake in terms of schizo connect-the-dottage and indecipherable rambling.

Imagine being a normal religious Indian person and seeing western middle class white kids LARP as the divine and mystical agents of Kali with Hitler as their messiah.

>>16010361
Sounds like it could almost be based but is in fact ultracringe

>>16010360
What is the least schizo occult book you've read?

It's absolutely based.

>>16010372
Not him but some Hermeticism, but that's more traditional religion I guess so I'll go with a modern text and say "Magic: History, Theory and Practice; Annotated by Adolf Hitler".

>>16010361
>Imagine being a normal religious Indian person
Ah, yes...

>>16010383
>"Magic: History, Theory and Practice; Annotated by Adolf Hitler".
Kek, but does anyone even know if that's real?

>>16010391
Come on anon this is a bit of an exaggeration isn't it?

>>16010402
All I said was "ah yes". Surely you don't mean the picture of what Indians actually do is an exaggeration.

>>16010383
Does that book really exist?

>>16010372
Probably the foundations of practical magic by Israel Regardie

>>16010391
Cow urine is Zoroaster approved.

Has anyone had any deeper occult experiences? I've had a few and I'm to be honest a bit fearful of the whole thing now, if I give credence to it it takes a hold of me. Damn it, I've just given credence to it now by speaking of it and thinking about it again and I feel somewhat ecstatic, it's coming back.

That's an exaggeration but it's a bit like that, and because of my scientific mind I have to accept that there's a force nagging me there and I can't just reject it now as not having some body of effect sometimes. But structuralising it gives it a reason and I can understand it, and continue to follow God. But I've considered that that systematisation might negate it, and in that way I am in truth not facing it.

I have already been attacked by some demon or figure of sorts, it had at least the awareness of a human being in it and was less a symbolic image as an experience, as I could not see it but only feel its physical form. And it wasn't a sleep paralysis because I myself was moving while being attacked. Though you most of the time don't lose your ego-consciousness in mystical experiences, so you're still completely self aware and not as if you've suddenly lost freewill or awareness. I've also had repeated experiences of which I can only describe as a sort of pleasurable electricity throughout my body very similar to how the Kundalini is described, and often with the effect spoken of in Buddhism such as a quote un quote "oneness" or in other words pure acceptedness in a timeless and spaceless mentality and perception of the world, the world is glowing and you see beauty and at worst some level of appreciation in everything. It is at the level, for one who has not experienced it, of say the emotional impact of a song coming out of it. But there was a hanging over problem or question of boredom in my mind while experiencing it, which I suspect to be from my previous desiring mode of being, wherein in my own individual place in this world, such a self-abnegation(and of life in general truly), was remaining and could not be forgotten. That is, it wasn't a conversion at all or anything like that, but merely a temporary experience of that state. And I do prefer the more traditional state and belief of Christianity. But it wasn't so much a lack of desire, in contrast to desire, but entirely an inbetween non-dualist perception where there was still desire, but as it were almost no need for desire, and negated both the desireless and desire; I still had my morality for example. This all started when I started meditating a few years ago but as of today I've only meditated between 8 or 15 times. My concentration and memory definitely did improve.

Anyone know exactly what this is? There's been a few other types of experiences but they most form around being similar to these.

>>16010361
I'm thinking, yeah probably based.

>>16010410
Yes.

>>16010414
Lmao yes, just search it up. It seems Hitler at least had a passing by interesting in the esoteric. I mean just look at Himmler.

>>16010526
>with all sixty-six Hitler annotations intact
>66
>file is 6.16 MB
Can't make this shit up hahaha

Probably right now it's my favorite book by Serrano although of course all of his books are great, it's like trying to pick your favorite song by your favorite artist; You like most of the songs which makes it hard to pick.

But "Cordon Dorado" is so concise and goes straight to the point, very easy to pick up and read, unlike his heavier books such as NOS: Book of the Resurrection and EL ELLA: Book of Magic Love. Definitely recommend Cordon Dorado and it is one of the very few books (five or less) that I am going to get hold of a physical copy. Otherwise, I read books only with my Kindle. But this one's pure gold, 5/5.

Also OP; If you think that book is schizo then you have obviously never leafed through NOS: Book of the Resurrection or MANU: For the Man to Come (a tome in three parts).

>>16010340
Cover looks great for a World War II mystery novel set inside Nazi Germany.

>>16010526
>Yes.

>>16010550
>Can't make this shit up hahaha
I know but it is quite interesting when you're reading the book and then you find one of those and it helps your experience and makes reading it more fun.

>>16010560
Not too sure I’ll be reading anything else by him but I’m eager to get to the chapter on Rosicrucians so we’ll see.

It’s not so much his concepts and ideas that baffles me as it is the way he writes - just constantly listing names of people and places and alternate titles. It fucks with my concentrating on his main point.

>>16010573
>World War II mystery novel set inside Nazi Germany.
I recommend you check out Adolf Hitler: The Ultimate Avatar, book by the same author. It dives deep into many similar themes. Sometimes mystical and other-wordly influences, alongside with historical references.

>>16010577
Okay I get the point some Indian peoples have degraded the Hindu religion.

>>16010550
These are the annotations by Hitler on the wikipedia:
>"False images are necessary for the recognition of truth."
>"All fight for power is therefore a fight of hostile structures."
>"The whole materialism and rationalism of our time virtually strikes in the face every deeper sense of reality and facts."
>"Satan is the beginning, Seraph is the end."[4]

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>>16010594
I do not want to go full schizo in this thread (I kind of do but I will restrain myself). The style of writing in his books are often "Dream-sequence", which means like you're having a dream. In a dream, things often happen sequentially, things that don't make sense. Events follow events, and maybe characters appear that seem out of place sometimes. And you wake up afterwards, asking yourself "What the hell was that all about? And what does it mean?". That's Serrano's style, more or less.

>>16010560
Reading him makes me laugh a lot like your pic related, not in the bad way though. Though could I get a sauce for that pic quote? And Cordon Dorado is the esoteric hitlerism book right?

>>16010624
Fine, Indian people drink cow piss and rub shit on their head.

>>16010630
Sounds about right. I typically read fast but this book brought me to a screeching halt. I’m just powering through it now not understanding half of the references lol.

>>16010635
All of his books can be treated as EH. I don't know the source of the qoute in the picture though sadly...

>>16010340
May I asl why that post quoting Hitler's annotations was deleted? The man (Hitler that is) seems to have a solid grasp of esotericism.

>>16010600
I'll take a peek Anon.

>>16010650
Yeah I know exactly what you mean, and sometimes it doesn't work if you "Power through it". Instead you can sometimes pick a chapter that appeals to you, and read it slowly, and then think about the meaning of what you just read.

That's what I did once with NOS, and that same night I had a dream about a scene from the book. But other things happened in my dream. Things that weren't written in the book. T

he story continued in my dream. Sounds like nonsense but it really happened, kek.

>>16010340
It's not that I dislike Serrano or his ideas, but it just seems the frame of his ideas are so schizo and so they are effected by that and find very little value other than a mythological-fiction without the truth or depth of a real mythology, and so as it were almost an entertainment in some parts. Suffering from something of the problem of modern revisionism in traditional or historic things, very often an all-encompassing spirituality which brings together the different religions or mythologies, while saying less and less truth itself. Jung somewhat escapes this in being chiefly a phenomenologist(a "phenomenological psychology") but at the very least his followers haven't.

>>16010653
>I don't know the source of the qoute in the picture though sadly...
Ah well, would you say the golden thread: esoteric hitlerism is the best place to start with him? And if you could say what his main value would be, what of course would it be? My simple guess out of not knowing much of his writing would be a mythologising of the historic, the historical and history.

>>16010686
Interesting question Anon. I want to say Golden Thread is a good "Entry point" for reading Serrano. However to me that was not my first book, I started with L'ultimo Avatara. Because I'm a mystical person; I believe that readers do not find books - books find readers. That's the reason why I will not say "Read this book, read that book, you must start here, and so on". For me, I knew even before opening that book, that this book would satisfy my search, because I could tell from the title and synopsis that here is a work where the author explains exactly in advanced detail the themes that I have already been slowly approaching in my own thought process.

So pick the book that stands out to you as "special", like the missing brick in a "wall" that you are trying to build, and see if it answers your questions.

See if it helps you build your own "wall". Or perhaps rather, your "mosaic", as a certain person expressed it.

>>16010718
>So pick the book that stands out to you as "special", like the missing brick in a "wall" that you are trying to build, and see if it answers your questions.
Will do, I guess it's part of the whole experience of Serrano, you approach him with his traditions.

>>16010729
This seems to me a more outward-mythological(projecting) way of what is essentially the Jungian individuation, or "looking within". And yes I'm aware that's an almost age-old concept found in any high and many primitive cultures but the philosophical awareness of it being an as it were "subjective element" makes me consider it going greatly back to Jung.

>>16010686
A good first book is The Resurrection of the Hero, it's a straightforward, short overview of Serrano's ideas. Helped me understand his other works better, it's a lot "dryer" in style.

>>16010361
Indians love Hitler there's probably quite a few poos who are into esoteric hitlerism

>>16011243
>it's a lot "dryer" in style.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Do you mean as in it's a more academic and traditionally philosophical styled work?

>>16011342
Serrano was intentionally non-academic. He writes in a sort of coded metaphysical perennial language, referencing all kinds of mythologies/mysteries, in order to get to their essence if you will. His lists of names use different mythological languages to represent the same essential element in all of those.

Resurrection of the Hero is as close to a systematical overview of his ideas as you'll get, but it's by no means academic or traditionally philosophical. Just more straightforward and less dream-like.

But if you're not familiar with general ancient mythology, traditionalism/Evola, Jung, etc. he probably won't make much sense anyway.

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>>16010560
Could you point me to where I might find Serrano ebooks, anon? b-ok only has a couple of PDFs

>>16011304
How do they reconcile this with their love for Israel?

>>16011482
>This work possesses all the defects needed to defeat time. I was forced to write it in this way. in accordance with the required limitations, I have also been permitted to reveal the Martial initiation of A-mor.
>The whole of my creative work falls outside the boundaries of any specific literary genre; it is neither a poem, nor a novel, nor a philosophical essay, although it contains a little of each of these. I conceived it with a rhythmic unity of the soul, and it can be assimilated with no more difficulty than that inherent in its symbology and essential obscurity, even by those who come upon it for the first time
>According to the orphic cosmogony, love drives the Cosmogonic Eros to break the Cosmic Egg which encloses it, dividing the androgynous. Thus, creation is the dance of Him and Her seeking and losing each other throughout infinity.

>>16013103
They hate Muslims more than anything on this earth, and Hitler supported the creation of a Jewish state.
I'm not sure where the conflict is supposed to arise.

>>16012955
No.

>>16013503
God-tier quote Anon. Especially the part about the breaking of the Cosmic Egg.

>>16013503
now this is top tier schizo. where is this from

>>16013686
Nos, Book of the Resurrection

>>16010391
AH? YES! FUCKING BASED AF

Pic related is an interesting semi-related read. Not EH at all but it definitely veers into the direction that worldview inhabits.

>>16013686
I think you are misusing the term schizo because I understand exactly what he means. He is basically describing quantum consciousness + gateway process in less scientific terms.

From my perspective I think mankind was originally hermaproditic/adrogyous in physicality and spirit and we were split apart to make us weaker by jealous "gods" who saw us as a threat.

>>16012955

C.G Jung & Hermann Hesse: A record of two Friendships.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/0relfbhab90uxan/Miguel_Serrano_-_C.G._Jung_and_Hermann_Hesse.pdf/file
Prelude to Nos
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cfacizq0w474fh7/Miguel_Serrano_-_The_Worship_of_Love_Prelude_to_NOS.pdf/file

We must not celebrate the death of the white gods
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mu3a7n42dtvgpdt/Miguel-Serrrano-We-Will-Not-Celebrate-The-Death-Of-The-White-Gods.pdf/file
Nietzsche and the eternal Return
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s42x9ieltxc8xti/Miguel_Serrano_-_Nietzsche_and_the_Eternal_Return.pdf/file
Nos The Book of Resurrection
http://www.mediafire.com/file/oc1cadpbtlz2t9a/Miguel_Serrano_-_NOS_Book_of_the_Resurrection.pdf/file

The Golden Thread: Esoteric Hitlerism
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ktyf3e7axnhs2ke/Serrano_Miguel_-_The_golden_cord.pdf/file

AHTUA
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4x8u30eixedmtly/Serrano_Miguel_-_Adolf_Hitler_The_Ultimate_Avatar.pdf/file

MANU part 1
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ovqhfelv1pwrp51/%255BMiguel_Serrano%255D_Manu_For_Man_to_Come_Part_1%2528bookzz.org%2529.pdf/file

MANU Part 2
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q9113a2hw0ok9fj/%255BMiguel_Serrano%255D_Manu_For_Man_to_Come_Part_2%2528bookzz.org%2529.pdf/file

Son of the Widower
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ckzdermhj1fu874/Son_of_the_Widower.pdf/file

MAYA: Reality is an illusion
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h1ry7r1dcksej7w/Maya-Reality-is-an-Illusion.pdf/file

>>16014543
I was just memeing. Simply meant it's "out there" which drew me. Found it on libgen and reading it rn.

>>16014701
Thank you for this

Rene Girard makes the case that when Christianity entered a region that Paganism lost it's legitimacy immediately. A "cat out of the bag" situation.

Is it possible to find a physical copy of Adolf Hitler the ultimate avatar in english?
I have been looking around and it seems out of print.
I have been reading the PDF and it is so good that I want a physical copy.

>>16014701
Good shit, anon.

>>16010340
>fascist
checks out

>>16015005
I think all religions are generally derived from the same source but told with a slightly different mythos/art style. Basically they are all interpretations of the same story that fits the land, culture and blood of the people.

A key difference id say since the jews are basically a demonic race with no roots their religious doctrine and pathology is always geared towards distortion and manipulation of the truth. ie Eisteins theory of relativity is complete bullshit but makes sense to jews.

My general sense is that the conflict in this world is born of the same source which often infects the hearts of men to fight over trite matters. The jews as a race are like a living manifestation of this evil in a concentrated form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IU4qrriHrs&t=18m55s

As for Paganism, Christianity was accepted in Rome because Constantine recieved a vision from god (sol invictus) where he realized that christianity and paganism were two sides of the same coin.

Modern day christians are basically heretics who suck jew cock and dont even know their own theology or origins/purpose of rituals beyond doing it because their priest and parents tell them to without question or understanding.

>>16010340
You’re unironically not redpilled enough to understand it. Start with Savitri Devi’s The Lightning and the Sun

>>16015043
It exists and has been printed recently it's just not currently in print anywhere that I can find. You probably either have to keep looking and hope for luck or hire a book collector to find it for you.

>>16010361
So cringe its based desu

>>16015127
Constantine made Rome Christian for financial reasons that only made sense for the time period

Protip: neighbors with differing religions

>>16015164
All true belief started as a LARP that went too far.

>>16010391
holy...based...

>>16015135
Haha I’ve already read that, as well as Foever and Ever and Gold in the Furnace. And a ton of other NS lit. I’m pretty redpilled mate just not schizo.

>>16015254
What do you recommend as far as Natsoc /lit/? Feder and Rosenberg?

>>16014701
Keep up the good work

>>16015391
Leon Degrelle and Dietrich Eckart